Pet peeve of the day

By Michelle Malkin  •  July 1, 2008 12:14 PM

I agree with reader Bruce who writes to the SFChronicle today about an annoying pet peeve of mine:

Reflections on the Fourth

Editor – A modest request: Would it be too much to ask to honor the most-important day in the history of our country by calling it by its proper name, “Independence Day,” instead of the “Fourth of July”? After all, we don’t refer to Christmas Day as “December 25th,” do we? Thank you.

BRUCE JANKE
Los Gatos

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  1. #364728
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:16 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    No matter what it is called, if it is a patriotic day of observance or celebration, you can bet Google ignores it…

  2. #364732
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:18 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    After all, we don’t refer to Christmas Day as “December 25th,” do we?

    Not yet, anyway.

    No matter what it is called, if it is a patriotic day of observance or celebration, you can bet Google ignores it…

    Yep. Which is why I use Goodsearch instead.

  3. #364735
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:21 pm, wighttrasch said:

    That’s why I absolutely abhor ‘9/11′.

    It’s a bloody media catchphrase that belittles a day that should never be forgotten. I always say the entire phrase ‘September, 11, 2001.’

  4. #364736
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:22 pm, behiker said:

    The same can be said for Thanksgiving… I’m sick of hearing “Turkey Day”.

    And for imagery, Easter seems to be all about bunnies and eggs.

  5. #364737
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:23 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    O! Christmas Tree O! Botanical growth with special meaning attributed to December 25.

    Editor – A modest request: Would it be too much to ask to honor the most-important day in the history of our country by calling it by its proper name, “Independence Day,” instead of the “Fourth of July”? After all, we don’t refer to Christmas Day as “December 25th,” do we? Thank you.

    Yes, why exactly do we celebrate the Fourth of July?!? Inquiring minds what to know. idiots.

  6. #364738
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:23 pm, khan said:

    Whoo hoo, Los Gatos!

  7. #364739
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:23 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:16 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:
    No matter what it is called, if it is a patriotic day of observance or celebration, you can bet Google ignores it…

    Why? They didn’t ignore last year.

  8. #364741
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:24 pm, Insomniac said:

    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:18 pm, englishqueen01 said:
    After all, we don’t refer to Christmas Day as “December 25th,” do we?
    Not yet, anyway.

    Ahem! Don’t you mean “winter holidays”? :-)

  9. #364742
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:25 pm, mchristian said:

    I agree, wighttrasch. Give the day and the people who were injured and died, their respectful due.

  10. #364743
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:25 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Yes independence day. Independence from the elitist rule & oppressive taxes of the crown… we could use another one of those right about now.

  11. #364745
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:25 pm, RobM1981 said:

    When Obama is elected, they’re going to rename it “Co-dependence Day.”

    Instead of parades and fireworks, they’ll have free sensitivity training in the park, and a late night movie festival of Michael Moore and Oliver Stone flicks.

    And, BTW, I have no issue with Independence Day being called the Fourth of July. No big deal, at least to me, but everyone’s entitled to their Pet Peeves…

  12. #364750
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:30 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    #6- I guess too many patriotic Americans took notice.

    They’ll note obscure European writers and artists, and Sputnik launches, but as a rule, Memorial Day and Veterans Day and Independence Day are ignored.

    On a different subject, “July 4th” is pretty widely recognized, so I’m not super peeved. Except, IIRC, July 2nd was the actual date the Declaration of Independence was signed.

  13. #364751
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:30 pm, khan said:

    #7:

    Ed isn’t one to let facts get in the way.

  14. #364752
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:32 pm, tre said:

    I’ve always said “Independence Day” for that very reason.

    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:21 pm, wighttrasch said:
    That’s why I absolutely abhor ‘9/11′.

    It’s a bloody media catchphrase that belittles a day that should never be forgotten. I always say the entire phrase ‘September, 11, 2001.’

    I also say “Sept. 11″, too. It seems the country has forgotten April 19. Thus, we need to try to remember Sept. 11.

  15. #364753
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:33 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    “Saturday… in the park… I think it was Independence Day” yuck! :)

  16. #364755
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:35 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    tre,
    April 19th is my birthday… I’ll never forget.

  17. #364756
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:36 pm, Mookie said:

    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:16 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    No matter what it is called, if it is a patriotic day of observance or celebration, you can bet Google ignores it…

    Uh, no. They’ve had Independence Day logos since they started the holiday designs in 2000.

  18. #364758
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:37 pm, TXRose said:

    I have bigger peeves than what the day is called, such
    as, history “teachers” that aren’t teaching American
    history. Call the day what you want to, but celebrate
    our Independence on that day instead of just thinking,
    “Ah, another day off work!”

  19. #364759
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:37 pm, Rob said:

    And while we are at it… How about they call people that sneak into our country “illegal aliens” instead of “undocumented workers?

  20. #364760
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:37 pm, khan said:

    Not only that, but they had this for Uncle Sam searches:

    uncle sam

    and they have this now: link

  21. #364762
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:40 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    Remember, Remember
    The fifth of November the fourth of July,

    Doesn’t quite have the same ring to it. Independence Day will do for me, although I am not personally peeved hearing the 4th of July.

  22. #364763
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:40 pm, Ken M. said:

    The National Weather Service is pretty good at properly naming our holidays. Check your local f’cst. for the upcoming days.

    http://www.weather.gov/

    –Ken

  23. #364765
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:41 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    Rob,
    Harry Reid calls them “undocumented Americans”. How’s that for an outrage?

  24. #364770
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:46 pm, John Ansell said:

    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:37 pm, Rob said:
    And while we are at it… How about they call people that sneak into our country “illegal aliens” instead of “undocumented workers?

    I like “illegal invaders” better but your point is well taken. I can stand when they call them immigrants too.

  25. #364771
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:47 pm, et said:

    U.S. House Joint Resolution 71 was approved by a vote of 407-0 on October 25, 2001. It requested that the President designate September 11 of each year as “Patriot Day.” President George W. Bush signed the resolution into law on December 18, 2001 (as Public Law 107-89). It is a discretionary day of remembrance.

    Sadly we forget also.

  26. #364772
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:47 pm, bradley said:

    My pet peeve is the gall that liberals have in calling their politics “progressive”.

  27. #364773
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:47 pm, John Ansell said:

    That’s Can’t stand. Oops.

  28. #364775
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:48 pm, RTater said:
  29. #364779
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:51 pm, BobK said:

    It doesn’t peeve me. I get p*ssed off because the malls use that day, Veteran’s Day, etc for sales. WTF do those days have to do with discounted prices.

    If the socialist teachers don’t diminish those days, the malls will.

  30. #364781
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:51 pm, khan said:

    Patriot Day??? really???

  31. #364784
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:52 pm, labwrs said:

    I was in North Wales July 4, 1995. EVERY shop I entered or place I ran into people, EVERY single person said “Happy Independance Day!” as soon as they heard my American accent.
    They LOVED that we “kicked the English arse” (those lovely words from a 12 year old). The remember, we should TOO!

  32. #364785
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:52 pm, mojoe said:

    What bothers me more than the Independence Day/4th of July thing is that in this area (Boston, one of the capitals of Independence Day!) many retail stores are open regular hours. Now there are always people that would like to work for the overtime, but at least 2 friends have no choice about working.

  33. #364787
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:53 pm, RTater said:

    bradley – progressive is a much more accurate term for today’s socialists than liberal. The policies that they support are much more authoritarian and would put much more power in the hands of government than those of a traditional “liberal”. People need to become aware of what progressivism really means – a progression toward more government control.

  34. #364788
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:54 pm, zorro said:

    Great point Michelle (and Bruce).

  35. #364790
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:55 pm, evilned said:

    Even my wife, who isn’t a citizen, refers to it as Independence day. (Which is more then I do I’m sad to say)

    I am now reseting my seaking systems and will henceforth refer to Independence Day by it’s proper name.

  36. #364791
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:56 pm, khan said:

    #32:

    They have a choice; they can either choose to work for that employer or they can choose not to. I have no sympathy for their “plight”.

  37. #364793
    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:57 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    My pet peeve is that the IRS calls the income tax “voluntary”. Some years back, I heard a radio interview in which a regional (Dallas) IRS director was asked about the voluntary nature of the income tax. The IRS guy said that the income tax was indeed voluntary, and that “if you don’t volunteer to pay it, we’re going to come and get you!”

    Who needs amendments to the Constitution when changing word definitions will do?

  38. #364798
    On July 1st, 2008 at 1:00 pm, raybury said:

    I remember hearing a DJ explain that “el Cinco de Mayo” is the “Mexican 4th of July.” It must have been almost 20 years ago, and it still cracks me up to think about.

  39. #364823
    On July 1st, 2008 at 1:14 pm, graysonret said:

    It will be “Independence Day” once again in this house. I’ll bet, like Memorial Day, I’ll be the only one flying the Flag out front. We certainly could use another one these days, what with the absurb taxes and a tyrannical, corrupt government, pandering to special interest groups and lobbyists. Ah, for the sound of a car going by in the middle of the night, with the shout, “The politicians are out!”, as I grab my gun over the fireplace mantel.

  40. #364826
    On July 1st, 2008 at 1:14 pm, Vntnrse said:

    My wife and I always marvel that the rest of the country joins us in appreciation of our anniversary on July 4th with all the fireworks and picnics! Oh! Is it important in some other way, too? Gee, who woulda thunk it!

    /sarc off

    Yes, our anniversary is Independance Day! On another note, June 27 is my birthday so I always tell her that she was my birthday present!

    :)

  41. #364830
    On July 1st, 2008 at 1:17 pm, 8 My Foot said:

    Guilty. From now on, I’ll call it “Independance Day”.
    Now it’s my pet peeve also. :)

  42. #364833
    On July 1st, 2008 at 1:18 pm, swmbo said:

    Note to America - If you wish to continue celebrating Independence Day on the 4th of July you had better start removing the illegal invaders.

  43. #364837
    On July 1st, 2008 at 1:20 pm, WestCoastCoconut said:

    raybury I hope we don’t celebrate the 4th of July like Mexico celebrates Cinco de Mayo!!! 5th of May is a local celebration in the city of Puebla and not through out Mexico.

    God helps us if we localize Independence Day to Philadelphia!!!

  44. #364851
    On July 1st, 2008 at 1:24 pm, TXRose said:

    To me, Harry Reid is a documented UNAmerican! Our
    oldest son was born July 2nd. One of his best friends
    was born July 4th. They both thought the entire
    country always celebrated their birthdays. Mine knew
    what July 2nd actually was in American History.

  45. #364852
    On July 1st, 2008 at 1:25 pm, Lan Astaslem said:

    Hey Vntnrse! How funny!! Our anniversary is on July 4th as well. While we really were planning to get married on the 3rd, we couldn’t find a place for the reception, so it ended up on the 4th. My hubby and I love that we get the day off every year, and there’s always a party!!

    As for the Google comments, yes, they do recognize Independence Day. However, they systematically ignore Memorial Day and Veterans’ Day (although I think they did do Veterans’ Day once). But they make sure to recognize the Persian New Year every year. What the hell is that all about anyway?

  46. #364866
    On July 1st, 2008 at 1:39 pm, les said:

    TXRose, curious, did you ever get your question answered?

  47. #364869
    On July 1st, 2008 at 1:41 pm, tre said:

    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:35 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:
    tre,
    April 19th is my birthday… I’ll never forget.

    That’s strange. My birthday is March 30, the same day Ronald Reagan was shot.

    And my wifes birthday is Febuary 18, the same day the late, great Dale Earnhardt, who was my favorite NASCAR driver, died in the Daytona 500.

  48. #364887
    On July 1st, 2008 at 1:54 pm, DesertLover said:

    tre

    April 19th has meaning to me too … our family has a relatives chair on the lawn beside the reflecting pool at the memorial in OKC …

  49. #364892
    On July 1st, 2008 at 2:01 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    All sorts of weird things happen on or near my birthday. The list is very long.

  50. #364893
    On July 1st, 2008 at 2:02 pm, jsr said:

    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:41 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    Harry Reid calls them “undocumented Americans”. How’s that for an outrage?

    Considering some of his unintelligible gibberish, I think we need to start refering to Harry Reid as a documented alien.

  51. #364899
    On July 1st, 2008 at 2:10 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    April 19th? Oh yeah, that’s right, OKC. Jeez, why doesn’t that stick. That day should be revisited for the muslim connection for that attack. Damn! I’m horrible at dates. My 25th wedding anniversary is coming up. I’d better write it down.

  52. #364900
    On July 1st, 2008 at 2:12 pm, chapoutier said:

    In honor of the Fourth of July Independence Day, I give to you my conservative friends… a gift.

    Whoops! Dem Congressman Sends Out Mailer Featuring Pic Of Soviet Soldier!

    Let the mockery and derision begin.

  53. #364904
    On July 1st, 2008 at 2:20 pm, Lan Astaslem said:

    Chap — link doesn’t work…

  54. #364906
    On July 1st, 2008 at 2:26 pm, chapoutier said:

    Sorry. Try this.

  55. #364909
    On July 1st, 2008 at 2:32 pm, khan said:

    #51:

    Or Waco, which is behind the significance of that date. Sadly, I suspect there would be quite a few here who support the actions of the federal government that day.

  56. #364918
    On July 1st, 2008 at 2:37 pm, Send_Me said:

    Whoops! Dem Congressman Sends Out Mailer Featuring Pic Of Soviet Soldier!

    Let the mockery and derision begin.

    Here you go.

  57. #364924
    On July 1st, 2008 at 2:41 pm, HeatherRadish said:

    April 19th? Oh yeah, that’s right, OKC.

    NO! Patriots’ Day honors the Battle of Lexington and Concord and the start of the Revolution!

  58. #364933
    On July 1st, 2008 at 3:05 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 1st, 2008 at 2:02 pm, jsr said:

    Considering some of his unintelligible gibberish, I think we need to start refering to Harry Reid as a documented alien idiot.

    That’s more like it. ;-)

  59. #364934
    On July 1st, 2008 at 3:06 pm, Send_Me said:

    April 19th? Hmm, yeah, so many things happened on that particular day. Shall we count them:
    1775: Battle of Lexington and Concord
    1933: FDR announces that we’d no longer use the gold standard
    1951: General MacArthur retires
    1961: Bay of Pigs fails (good job, JFK)
    1971: Vietnam Veterans Against the War marches on Washington, D.C. (Enter John Kerry…)
    1987: The Simpsons makes debut
    1993: Janet Reno’s Barbeque in Waco
    1995: Oklahoma City Bombing
    2005: Catholic Church gets new “German Shepherd”

  60. #364938
    On July 1st, 2008 at 3:09 pm, tre said:

    I’m sorry to hear that DesertLover.

    I had no loved ones in the Murrah Building, but it still hurts when I think of it.
    A woman in my Church group lost a niece in the bombing. You can see the anger, even hatred, in her eyes at the mention of Tim McVeigh’s name.

  61. #364939
    On July 1st, 2008 at 3:10 pm, Barry F. said:

    “Independence Day” or “Fourth of July”…I always figured them as being synonymous with one another, since there are not other holidays on the 4th day of July. I remember what happened on July 4, 1776 and never gave it a second thought over the years.

    Now, the April 19th date would not have been something that I could have cited out of thin air.

    By the way, happy very belated-birthday, 30! Our sons birthday is a few days before that and our anniversary several days before his birthday.

  62. #364943
    On July 1st, 2008 at 3:17 pm, Tom Blogical said:

    I’m with Barry F. I’m as patriotic as it gets, but I think it’s being picky to get irritated over calling the day the Fourth of July over Independence Day. In my mind it’s interchangeable, as I’ve always thought it was a special day regardless.

    Happy Independence Day/Fourth of July to everybody. ;-)

  63. #364946
    On July 1st, 2008 at 3:21 pm, kcnut said:

    My bday is oct 13 the navy bday. Go navy.

  64. #364950
    On July 1st, 2008 at 3:22 pm, TXRose said:

    les..what question?

  65. #364963
    On July 1st, 2008 at 3:31 pm, TXRose said:

    I had a dear friend in the Murrah Building. My b’day
    and my husband’s b’day are March 2. Tx Independence Day is March 2. Sam Houston’s b’day
    was March 2. So is a friend’s youngest son and a guy
    that waited on me in the Apple Store in Southlake, TX.
    I’ve always thought my birthday was special until
    recently. Now I let husband have both the birthdays!

  66. #364972
    On July 1st, 2008 at 3:43 pm, CCM said:

    My 9/11 peeve? When people call it nine-one-one. Several in the media do this – Charlie Rangel always does this.

    911 Emergency is nine-one-one.

    September 11, 2001 should be referred to as nine-eleven, not nine-one-one. If the attacks had happened on the 12th, would people call that day nine-one-two? Nope.

  67. #364980
    On July 1st, 2008 at 3:47 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    I’ll never forget those -past and present- who allow us to celebrate FREEDOM!

    http://s259.photobucket.com/albums/hh289/Impish_Dragon/?action=view&current=Untitled.flv

  68. #364990
    On July 1st, 2008 at 3:54 pm, DesertLover said:

    tre … if it had happened 20 minutes earlier we would have lost 4 instead of 1 … my cousins son, daughter and son-in-law had been there before the explosion …

  69. #364991
    On July 1st, 2008 at 3:54 pm, jsr said:

    I’m fine with either 4th of July or Independence Day. What worries me is that the PC crowd will someday find offense and start demanding International Independence Day or some other crap that recognizes the independence, interconnectedness and and equality of all nations and peoples while maintaining their inherent right to live in dignity and without fear of cultural oppression that is a threat to their traditional way of life in a manner that also does not offend the sensibilities af all sub-groups, religious affiliations, genders, sexual orientations that exist within the dominant culural entity so that every individual is free and empowered to reach his/her full potential.

  70. #364998
    On July 1st, 2008 at 3:59 pm, Flarn said:

    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:30 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:
    On a different subject, “July 4th” is pretty widely recognized, so I’m not super peeved. Except, IIRC, July 2nd was the actual date the Declaration of Independence was signed.

    Not really. That was the date that the Lee Resolution, declaring independence from Great Britain, was adopted. After the resolution was passed the Continental Congress turned to the debate over the language in the Committee of Five’s formal Declaration of Independence. Time was short and Congress adjourned until Wednesday the 3rd. The debates of July 3rd and 4th altered the manuscript and with these changes the Declaration of Independence was approved. John Hancock signed first, on the Fourth of July. The last signer signed on August 2nd. So July 2nd was the date of the Lee Resolution but the Declaration itself, in it’s present form, was formally signed on the 4th. Of course they don’t teach that in school because it might offend the fans of MayDay.

  71. #365006
    On July 1st, 2008 at 4:04 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    However… Let’s not forget to consider the influence by George Cohen with Yankee Doodle Boy:

    I’m a Yankee Doodle Dandy
    A Yankee Doodle, do or die
    A real live nephew of my Uncle Sam
    Born on the Fourth of July

  72. #365043
    On July 1st, 2008 at 4:35 pm, Mrs. Happy Housewife said:

    My Winn-Dixie ad this week makes note of Independence Day – for Venezuela

  73. #365076
    On July 1st, 2008 at 5:03 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    I’m a little peeved how they blatantly used the name of a federal holiday as the title of that, (now), worn out movie with Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum that cable stations keep showing over and over and over and….

  74. #365081
    On July 1st, 2008 at 5:08 pm, les said:

    TXRose, sorry, got my roses mixed up. The question was for Irish Rose.

  75. #365103
    On July 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Would it be too much to ask to honor the most-important day in the history of our country by calling it by its proper name, “Independence Day,” instead of the “Fourth of July”?

    If you are asking a liberal – why, yes, it would.

  76. #365130
    On July 1st, 2008 at 5:42 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    2nd photo reminds me of “March of the Penguins” I hope we have a similar commitment to Iraqis

  77. #365135
    On July 1st, 2008 at 5:45 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Barry F,
    Thanks! It’s funny, my husband has siblings who are twins and their b-day is April 17th. My father-in-law’s birthday is April 18th. It’s like a mini Christmas time in April.

    Happy belated Anniversary!

  78. #365155
    On July 1st, 2008 at 6:04 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On July 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Would it be too much to ask to honor the most-important day in the history of our country by calling it by its proper name, “Independence Day,” instead of the “Fourth of July”?

    If you are asking a liberal – why, yes, it would.

    Considering this was in the liberal SF Chronicle, and submitted by someone from liberal Los Gatos, CA…maybe not. Nice projection anyway.

  79. #365175
    On July 1st, 2008 at 6:22 pm, Yashmak said:

    I dunno, I always called it “The 4th of July”, growing up.

    That doesn’t mean I didn’t know what it stands for. It was the time of year my dad told me stories about Paul Revere, Washington, Benedict Arnold, Cornwalis, and King George, and showed me amazing oil paintings of men in blue coats in line just yards from men in red coats. . .

  80. #365243
    On July 1st, 2008 at 7:26 pm, Boomer said:

    The 4th of July automatically means Independence Day to me and has as long as I can remember. I’m also worried the PC crowd will do what they can in the very near future to try to take this time to celebrate and remember the price paid for the great country we live in like they have against many other national holidays especially the war on Christmas.

  81. #365252
    On July 1st, 2008 at 7:34 pm, TXRose said:

    It’s going to be a very interesting Independence Day in
    North Central Texas. People aren’t going to be traveling as usual because of gasoline prices. They are
    staying home and will discover…you can’t get close to
    any lake because they are free. You can’t get close to
    any parks or picnic tables because they are always
    taken EVERY weekend. You can’t get close to the zoo
    (even if it isn’t free) because all of these places are very good hunting places for ICE every weekend, every
    holiday and most evenings during the summer. Should be some very interesting letters to the editor in the coming newspapers.

  82. #365255
    On July 1st, 2008 at 7:37 pm, TXRose said:

    Should read…to the zoo (even if it isn’t free). They are always taken EVERY
    weekend , every holiday and most evenings during the summer and should be
    very good hunting places for ICE officers.
    Gotta preview!

  83. #365304
    On July 1st, 2008 at 8:30 pm, almeehan said:

    You mean it’s not hot dog & cookout day? Bank holiday, government offices closed and congress off. Now that last one is Independence!
    God Bless the USA, He has and will with over 200 years of freedom and boundless opportunity! Pray the leftoids not mess it up any more than they already have.

  84. #365311
    On July 1st, 2008 at 8:40 pm, havok said:

    I always called the 4th ‘my boomstick day’. Gunpower and flames…sweeeet!!!

  85. #365337
    On July 1st, 2008 at 9:16 pm, srhoades said:

    I don’t see how it’s a political correctness issue. When Jefferson died he asked if it was “the fourth yet”, Elisha Hunt Rhodes called it the fourth in all of his letters (featured in the Civil War documentary) and John Wayne called it the fourth. No offense but pet peeves are my pet peeve, they’re usually over silly things like this.

  86. #365431
    On July 1st, 2008 at 11:30 pm, keystone said:

    On July 1st, 2008 at 12:21 pm, wighttrasch said:
    “That’s why I absolutely abhor ‘9/11′.”

    It drives me crazy, too. I usually say September 11th or “the day of the terrorist attacks”.

  87. #365529
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 7:18 am, Patchthebun said:

    I’d never really thought about this, but always thought 4th of July = Independence Day. But from now on I will say Independence day, now that I HAVE thought about it.

    There’s a lot of talk about not forgetting Patriot Day. I’d say its more like we need to keep on teaching about Patriot Day. I teach children who weren’t even alive when the terrorist attacks happened, and others who were too young then to really get it. Now that they’re older, they’ve just been indoctrinated by the liberal media. Its not that they don’t remember, they don’t know what it was like to live on 9/10, and then wake up and watch the towers fall, Pentagon get hit, etc. They aren’t taught this in school. But thats just another reason to homeschool.

  88. #365603
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 10:11 am, corona said:

    Cinco de Mayo

  89. #365751
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:20 pm, TXRose said:

    Just as I think TX Independence Day Mar 2nd, I always
    think Independence Day July 4th.
    John Adams and Thomas Jefferson both died on the
    same July 4th, each thinking the other had outlived
    him.
    Everyone have a wonderful Independence Day, July 4th
    and stay safe.

  90. #366041
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 4:01 pm, Amglo said:

    Every day at my house is Independence Day as well as Memorial Day. I fly a 6 x 10 American Flag and a 5 x 8 POW/MIA Flag 365 days a year with a spotlight on it. If My neighbors forget what stand for freedom all they need to do is look up.

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