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San Fran mayor Gavin Newsom for governor?

By see-dubya  •  July 2, 2008 12:04 AM

While the Chronicle’s been covering San Francisco’s Honduran crack dealer municipal shuttle service, they’ve also spared some space to write about the gubernatorial ambitions of San Fran’s mayor. Gavin Newsom thinks he’s got what it takes to succeed the Governator.

Jerry Brown–”Governor Moonbeam”–is the front runner right now, believe it or not. Mayor Villaraigosa of LA is on the list as well. For Newsom to get past them he’s going to have to explain away this ridiculous illegal alien drug-dealer ferry service the city’s been running on his watch.

Looks like his strategy for doing that is a big, clumsy, transparent buck-passing:

With his handpicked juvenile probation chief at his side, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom said today that he is powerless to order that the city turn over underage illegal immigrant criminals to federal officials for deportation.

Instead, Newsom said at a City Hall news conference, the question of what to do with illegal immigrant minors who deal drugs and commit other crimes is one for juvenile court judges, the district attorney and public defender to sort out.

There’s just nothing you can do about this problem, Mayor? Well, you’re not particularly effective, are you? Even liberals aren’t buying his dodge. The Chronic’s front page includes this comment from reader “jacobin”:

Gavin (Newsom) and company have given the right-wing frothers some more “San Francisco values” to rant about. I wonder if he stays up at night thinking of ways to make elections harder for the Democratic Party.

Mmm….actually, jacobin, I don’t think that’s what Mayor Smoove stays up at night doing. But I do appreciate the San-Fran values rant-fodder. Palomino!


P.S.
If you want some good news out of California, Tom McClintock’s running for Congress.

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MORE: Here’s a nice little video of Mayor Smoove dealing with the press. It’s from a (sadly abandoned) blog called Gavin Watch:

He’s soooo oleaginous. If you could refine Gavin Newsom, we wouldn’t have to drill in ANWR.

Thanks to Goldwater Knight for pointing me there.

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  1. #1
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:17 am, Christian Soldier said:

    I’ll talk to the so co-ordinator for booking speakers of my RWF chapter–and encourage her to book Tom ASAP!!!

  2. #2
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:19 am, Hangfire said:

    Since so many people in California drink bottled water, it blows the hell out of my “it’s the water” theory for events in California.

  3. #3
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:21 am, radio relay said:

    Won’t that make Kalifonia an even more looney “fool’s paradise” than it already is.

  4. #4
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:25 am, Christian Soldier said:

    NOW NOW—–

    You all could help us here-move WEST you Conservatives–we could OWN this great state!!!! :-)

  5. #5
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:28 am, Hangfire said:

    I’m in the People’s Republic of Hawaii. How west do you want me?

  6. #6
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:48 am, havok said:

    This is one of those situation where if you can’t say something nice…well….

    I’ll keep my trap shut….grrrrrrr.

  7. #7
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:06 am, starlightwoman said:

    If people in California (keeping in mind I am a native Californian) are stupid enough to vote these idiots into office - they deserve what they get!

    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:25 am, Christian Soldier said:
    NOW NOW—–

    You all could help us here-move WEST you Conservatives–we could OWN this great state!!!!

    Are you kidding??? I got the hell out of there as fast as I could!

  8. #8
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:07 am, see-dubya said:

    I’m leaving myself, this very month.

  9. #9
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:19 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Jerry Brown–”Governor Moonbeam”–is the front runner right now

    You mean thee Jerry Brown?

  10. #10
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:24 am, AlohaGuy said:

    For Newsom to get past them he’s going to have to explain away this ridiculous illegal alien drug-dealer ferry service the city’s been running on his watch.

    Are you kidding? For Democrats this is a plus. Moonbeam looks a lot like “the good old days” compared to Newsom.

  11. #11
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:28 am, tpierce2 said:

    We in California finally have a strong Conservative to send to Congress. Tom McClintock. This guy takes no crap from liberals, he takes no crap from anyone.

    I have been to his appearances and listened to and followed him and he is a true Conservative. He is not an Arnold. He truly walks the walk and talks the talk.

    If you want a true Conservative in Congress, vote for him.

    Yea, go Tom.

    No, I am not associated with his campaign. I like the guy because he has ethics and principles. He will truly give a Conservative message to a very messy Congress.

  12. #12
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:30 am, see-dubya said:

    I’ve been a big Tom fan since 2002. I’m hoping he’ll eventually take on Boxer or Feinstein.

  13. #13
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:38 am, tpierce2 said:

    Boxer and Feinstein,

    Two idiots. They don’t represent me. Boxer recently sent me a letter via email. Regarding our energy problem.

    Let me tell you folks, she is one of the dumbest humans I’ve ever seen and she is a Senator? This does not bode well for we the people.

    Feinstein is not exactly in the same ward in the hospital, but she is almost as equal as stupid.

  14. #14
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:39 am, swmbo said:

    We lived on the Presidio in San Francisco for a year and a half, the public schools were so bad back in the mid 70’s we requested a transfer and went across the country to Virginia. What a refreshing change. When all was said and done, we decided our version of God’s country was Southern Illinois.

    There isn’t enough money to make me move back to the cereal state. Fruits Flakes and Nuts. And it has only gotten worse in the last 30 years. Wish none of my tax dollars went to support this travesty of a state. San Francisco - Berkeley - Los Angeles and the home base of the insanity - Sacramento.

  15. #15
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:43 am, mojack420 said:

    Can we deport Gavin and his crew to hondurus too

  16. #16
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 2:00 am, Christian Soldier said:

    Hey - # 8 see-dubya- where are you going?

    I had thought Tenn-N.C.

    Won’t you miss the great weather and the constant battles against our leftists :-)?!!!!!!

  17. #17
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 2:01 am, Christian Soldier said:

    PS - does anyone know about the life in Tenn.-N.C ??

  18. #18
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 2:10 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Gavin Newsom: Man of unflagging integrity.

  19. #19
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 2:13 am, love2rumba said:

    McClintok should have been Governor of California…not Arnold Schwarzenaager…but then I remember Shaun Hannity telling McClintok to his face on Fox News that Californians should back Arnold not Tom Mcclintock-even though Shawn said he liked McClintock.

    Shawn Hannity was a dufus on that one.

  20. #20
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 2:27 am, tpierce2 said:

    On July 2nd, 2008 at 2:13 am, love2rumba said:

    McClintok should have been Governor of California…not Arnold Schwarzenaager…but then I remember Shaun Hannity telling McClintok to his face on Fox News that Californians should back Arnold not Tom Mcclintock-even though Shawn said he liked McClintock.

    Shawn Hannity was a dufus on that one

    love2rumba–agree with you. McClintok should have been the Governor. Don’t know if you live here or not. California is so liberal it sucks! The state is going to hell. The legislature can’t pass a budget. It is controlled by liberals that want to spend and the state is not just broke, it is bankrupt. Good old Arni can’t seem to get anything done.

    As a citizen, I am so damn disgusted with these politicians, mostly liberal politicians, that I would like to shove most of them in the ocean. Yea, the Pacific! The politicians in this state are disgusting beyond words. Mostly liberal, they just want to raise taxes. None of them have a clue as to how the economy works.

    This state is really screwed up.

  21. #21
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 2:27 am, Christian Soldier said:

    # 10 L2r–Hannity is a part of the LOTE group…
    Nothing wrong with that..just…it gets us NO Where!!!

  22. #22
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 2:36 am, Christian Soldier said:

    Do any of you CAs remember the election cycle-when we Rs supported-walked precinct-gave $$$ to Congressman Dannemeyer? Do you also, remember when the CRP-NRP all of a sudden came up with a man named HUFFINGTON!!!!! as a “better” choice?

    Some of the hard workers stayed home that election–some of us left the Senate slate blank—we now have Feinstein—BLAME the PARTY heads!!!!!NOT the hard working CA R. volunteers.

    HUFFINGTON _ that name rings a bell!!!!!

  23. #23
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 2:39 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Gavin Newsom thinks he’s got what it takes to succeed the Governator.

    He’d be better off going to AA and NarcAnon first. What a joke this guy is especially next to his geisha girl Heather Fong.

  24. #24
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 5:20 am, DesertLover said:

    Newsome isn’t qualified to govern the Street Fairs and Parades in his own city … let alone an entire state …

  25. #25
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 5:41 am, docflash said:

    With that state on the road to ruin it seems he is perfect for them.

  26. #26
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 7:46 am, Mach1Duck said:

    Is the Federal government going to bring charges against the city administration? They have broken any number of state and federal laws by this account.

  27. #27
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 8:19 am, Send_Me said:

    I’m interested to see how Gavin and the NRA get along.

  28. #28
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 8:35 am, DaveC said:

    Michael Savage on his radio show rips Gavin apart nightly…

    if anyone in California wants to move, in Michigan, there is a housing surplus and it’s a buyer’s market..

  29. #29
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 8:57 am, bradley said:

    I used to live in San Francisco when Feinstein was mayor. The day she left for Congress and the new mayor was sworn in, he found that the city was bankrupt, she’d given all the money away. The city’s credit was shot, bond ratings collapsed, all due to liberal bs. Gavin is another in a long line of idiots to “mayor” that place, including the corrupt Willie Brown.
    Gavin runs a city that allows public nakedness and sex in “festivals” like the Folsom Street Fair, which is the center of the world’s deviants. Police stand by (often holding hands themselves) and watch.
    Crime, corruption and public sex. The perfect trifecta of liberal policies.

  30. #30
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 8:58 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Jerry Brown–”Governor Moonbeam”–
    GayBay Mayor Gavin Newsom
    Governator Arnold Schwarzenegger

    I don’t know Hangfire, could it be the bottled water?

    California doesn not seem to be doing well, is she?

  31. #31
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 9:04 am, swmbo said:

    Gavin Newsom: Man of unflagging integrity.

    There, fixed it for you.

  32. #32
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 9:07 am, Barry F. said:

    She told her husband that the affair with Newsom was short-lived and happened about a year and a half ago, while the mayor was undergoing a divorce from his then-wife, Fox News host Kimberly Guilfoyle…

    How in the world did Kimberly Guilfoyle of Fox News end up with the likes of Gavin Newsome?! :shock:

  33. #33
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 9:16 am, fred5676 said:

    I love it when we talk about San Francisco - good chance of seeing Kristen Weig again. “Nancy” never looked so hot!

    Go ahead - ‘google’ for Kristen Weig and see what the first three (cached) links are!

    MY comments on MM and Hot Air about Kristen!!

    (bow)

  34. #34
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 9:29 am, Die Hippie, Die said:

    With his handpicked juvenile probation chief at his side, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom said today that he is powerless to order that the city turn over underage illegal immigrant criminals to federal officials for deportation.

    Let’s see. Powerless to fight crime, but empowered to engage in pointless, immoral gestures. Forget governor, Newsom looks like the perfect Obama Secretary of State.

  35. #35
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 9:49 am, sonofdy said:

    Then he can turn the entire state of California into a massive San Fransico. It will be great for the illegals and criminals. Murder rates will skyrocket!!! And in a few years you will not be able to tell California from Mexico!!!

    YAY Newsom!!!!

    If he gets in, LEAVE CALIFORNIA!!!!

  36. #36
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 9:51 am, Rusty said:

    Well, the illegal immigrant shield law was passed long before Newsom’s tenure, but, most people are right in that his checkered past may not make him the best candidate for the Democratic nomination.

    But his efforts on behalf of gay marriage rights will always make him a hero to me. A flawed hero? Certainly. But a hero nevertheless.

  37. #37
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 9:55 am, Christian Soldier said:

    The ? at the end of the vid ;
    What is he so afraid of? ..
    answers the ???

    THE TRUTH

  38. #38
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 9:57 am, ajmontana said:

    This is not the California I knew. :cry:

  39. #39
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 10:05 am, Donut44 said:

    I think this would be good for California for Gavin to be Governor, mainly because of those pesky plastic bags. Forget energy crisis, taxes or any wars, if we don’t rid the planet of these plastic bags we are all doomed by 2014 ( I had to make up a year to fit in with the loons).

    I mean, you don’t ever hear of a child suffocating on a cloth or paper bag, do you? Little woodland creatures don’t get their bodies and necks wrapped around paper bags do they? And these plastic bags are causing extra green house gases every time I try to swerve to miss one of those crazy swirling bags loose on the freeway, but instead it gets caught underneath my car, melts and stinks the earth with its pungent, burning aroma.

    Besides, plastic bags were a global scheme concocted by Wal-Mart to grow the lower income population attached to them because of their now new endless supply of trash bags they don’t have to pay for. And we all know Wal-Mart stands for BIG corporate America.

    2014 folks, we don’t have long!

  40. #40
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 10:18 am, Rusty said:

    Donut, I’m a paper-in-plastic guy myself. I continue to be a loyal Whole Foods shopper, but getting rid of plastic bags along with refusing to sell live lobsters and soft shell crabs are decisions that continue to annoy me.

  41. #41
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 10:21 am, Bhishma said:

    On July 2nd, 2008 at 2:01 am, Christian Soldier said:
    PS - does anyone know about the life in Tenn.-N.C ??

    I lived in CA and also in NC. NC is 10 times better than CA. Nice seasons, low cost-of-living and no pollution. Add to that the beaches and the Blue-Ridge mountains, you have CA in NC, only better. TN is right after NC. Lower cost-of-living (no state taxes) but no beaches.
    Hope that helps…

  42. #42
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 10:30 am, sonofdy said:

    Rusty, so him over-riding the will of the people to push his own narrow political agenda on an unwilling population makes him a hero to you? Are you also a great fan of Stalin?

  43. #43
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 10:38 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    MIchael Savage contributed money to Brown’s campaign in 2006.

    Whatever cred he has to call people “Sean Vannity” and “Hush Bimbeaugh” will be gone if he contributes to ‘Moonbeam’ again.

  44. #44
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 10:46 am, Rusty said:

    Sonofdy,

    Well, it’s certainly wasn’t the will of the people within his jurisdiction. And I’ve made myself very clear that I don’t care about the will of the people if the will of the people is discrimination. The will of the people didn’t want interracial marriages and the will of the people didn’t want desegregation. The will of the people can bite me.

    And Newsom’s actions regarding gay marriage made it a hot button issue. Frankly, he hurt the Dems chances in 2004. But that’s fine with me. He highlighted an important issue at the expense of his party. That takes some bravery and I’m down with that.

  45. #45
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 10:47 am, prendad said:

    Come to Germantown, Tennessee! Beautiful weather most of the year but can be awfully hot and humid during summer. Friendly people, gun owners paradise, patriotic citizens and very affordable housing. Crime rate is very low. I think we had 1 homicide last year. We are a city of about 37,000 and we have our own fireworks display and Christmas parade every year. I lived in Kalifornia for about 2 years in the San Fran area. Didn’t like it much.

  46. #46
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 10:52 am, ajmontana said:

    There are far more things to worry about in California than a bunch of fairies wanting to tie the knot, I may just vote for it if it’s on the ballot to get this over with. Whatever floats their boat, and reading about the divorces will be good for a laugh.

  47. #47
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 10:54 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    But his efforts on behalf of gay marriage rights will always make him a hero to me. A flawed hero? Certainly. But a hero nevertheless.

    Why did gays suddenly discover marriage rights around 2001?

    And why do libs think judges forcing things that don’t have clear constitutional backing onto an unwilling populace by fiat is a good thing?

  48. #48
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 10:56 am, wighttrasch said:

    If Newsome becomes governor, does that mean I’ll be subjected to more video of him performing fellatio on a microphone?

  49. #49
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:02 am, lgm said:

    There is a candidate for President who is strongly associated with supporters of known terrorist organizations. Hint: it’s the one who is running on keeping us safe.

  50. #50
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:15 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    lgm you worthless piece.

    McCain has a backer, who worked at a company, that may have aided anti-communist forces in Colombia that was labelled a terorrist organization. Several degrees of separation there.

    Obamarxist is pals, serves on boards with, and launched his Illinois political career from the home of, a man who bombed the Pentagon, and was planning on killing soldiers and their dates at a dance at Fort Dix when the bomb detonated prematurely.

    Tell me, oh moral relativating piece of crap who parrots HuffPo, which candidate has links to terror again?

    But if American hating lib scum like you want to bring up terror connections this election, or qualifications to be commander in chief, have at it.

  51. #51
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:15 am, sonofdy said:

    Rusty,

    So the will of the majority means nothing to the left. Typical dictatorial attitude. This is exactly how nations become dictatorships.

    LGM, Yes Obama is strongly linked to two people who actualy bombed the pentagon and only wish they could have killed more people there. Ayers.

  52. #52
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:17 am, sonofdy said:

    Obamas leadership experience:
    1/ Cult leader, 2007-2008
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    Thats it.

  53. #53
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:27 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Oh, good lord, the IDIOT is back. Anyone who links HufPo should be banned.

    MikeB got banned for linking a pic of Lara Flinn Boyle with a see thru top and that link is more vile.

  54. #54
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:30 am, planetgeo said:

    The day Gavin Newsom is elected governor is the day the revolution begins.

  55. #55
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:35 am, ajmontana said:

    lol @ soap for clicking lgm’s link…
    sucker….

  56. #56
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:35 am, hawkeye54 said:

    TN is right after NC. Lower cost-of-living (no state taxes) but no beaches.
    Hope that helps…

    What’s TN’s position on issuing DL’s to illegals? Aren’t some parts of NC very friendly to illegals too?

    Any state that treats the illegal invasion as the cancer it is would be one where I’d certainly give consideration in relocating once I retire.

  57. #57
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:36 am, lgm said:

    On-my-soap-box said (#52):

    Oh, good lord, the IDIOT is back. Anyone who links HufPo should be banned.

    MikeB got banned for linking a pic of Lara Flinn Boyle with a see thru top and that link is more vile.

    left of center political commentary = pornography?

  58. #58
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:37 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Yup AJ, I clicked through MikeB’s too. The difference is, lgm will get away with it as usual.

  59. #59
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:38 am, DesertLover said:

    lgm …

    How uninformed do you think people on this blog are? …

    1. You link to something posted on Huff-Po … not the most reliable unbiased source in the universe …

    2. Then reference the period from 1984-2001 regarding Chiquita bananas making payments to paramilitary groups in Colombia … well no @#%# … virtually every company operating in Colombia was having to make “payments” … not only to stay in business … but to stay alive …

    3. The coerced payments stopped in 2001 … guess why? … President Bush came into office and the USA started helping the Colombian government in their fight against all the terrorist groups there … instead of ignoring the problem as it had in the Clinton administration …

    So … I think you need to be a little more in depth about things you post links to … especially when they come from sites like Huff-n-Puff and Kos …

    Try googling “Chiquita Death Squads” to get the rest of the story not mentioned in the link you posted …

    Chiquita gave $1.7 million to the A.U.C., whose death squads destroyed unions, terrorized workers, and killed thousands of civilians. Chiquita’s top officials ­admit approving the payments but say they thought that if they didn’t pay up, the A.U.C. would kill its employees and attack its facilities

    Chiquita has agreed to a 25 million fine from the US AG to resolve the case.

    In Colombia, multinational companies’ ties with the A.U.C. are part of an ongoing investigation that is gripping that country as intensely as Watergate did the U.S. The links between ­Colombia’s political and military elite and the paramilitary group have so far led to the arrest of more than a dozen current and former Colombian congressmen

    There is still an ongoing investigation in Colombia that entails not only Chiquita brands but also Del Monte and Dole … for the same kinds of coerced payments …

    Just an FYI there …

    basically this is old news …

  60. #60
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:39 am, sonofdy said:

    LGM, left of center? Please. Huffpo is hard core leftist hate propoganda. I have been banned there for simply disagreeing with someone. It is common for the posters there to make threats of violence to anyone not hard core leftist. It might as well be a stalinist planning group.

  61. #61
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:41 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    lgm,

    No, but HufPo has been/is known to be. Have you read what YOUR HufPo has said about MM? Of course you support their right to porn - right?

    And how many terrorist groups have to come forward in support of Obama before you get a freaking clue - IDIOT?

  62. #62
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:41 am, DesertLover said:

    aj …

    I nearly always look so I can better refute what certain people post …

    :lol:

  63. #63
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:44 am, ajmontana said:

    yeah, i looked, just jammin on soaper….
    ot..
    dl, feebz is stopping bye on a road trip, her and a friend. they just hit the road from the bay area. 8)

  64. #64
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:46 am, ajmontana said:

    stopping by… sheesh.

  65. #65
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:53 am, RyanInSanJose said:

    I was almost coerced into meeting a friend for lunch in SF on Saturday. Luckily I convinced her that San Mateo was a better option.. lol :)

    Ol’ Gavin hasn’t done anything to clean that city up.

  66. #66
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:05 pm, DesertLover said:

    aj …

    that’s cool buddy … tell them I said hello … I am heading home from VA tomorrow …

  67. #67
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:05 pm, Rusty said:

    LGM: Guilty of going way off-topic.

    Still, the Chiquita scandal is more than just a few levels of separation. It should be viewed as a scandal on the level of Obama’s relationship with Ayers.

    This is serious stuff:

    While Lindner was CEO of Chiquita, the company began sending money to the AUC through its shipping subsidiary Banadex. A report by the Organization of American States states that Banadex also engaged in arms trafficking, helping to deliver 3,000 Nicaraguan AK-47 rifles and millions of rounds of ammunition to the AUC in 2001

    Just because the story is on HuffPo does not mean it should be dismissed out of hand.

  68. #68
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:07 pm, sonofdy said:

    Rusty:
    Did you bother to read that they would have been killed if they didn’t pay?

  69. #69
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:07 pm, ajmontana said:

    HuffPo sucks.

  70. #70
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:08 pm, sonofdy said:

    huffpo is a hate site.

  71. #71
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:12 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    The sad thing, is I think Rusty actually means it.

    Still, the Chiquita scandal is more than just a few levels of separation. It should be viewed as a scandal on the level of Obama’s relationship with Ayers.

  72. #72
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:15 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:02 am, lgm said:

    There is a candidate for President who is strongly associated with supporters of known terrorist organizations. Hint: it’s the one who is running on keeping us safe.

    What is that I hear? It must be lgm again.

    Nimrod. You use a HuffPo link for evidence of something? Geez! :roll:

    Obama is endorsed by despots and terrorists from around the globe.

    Go corrupt some poor, unsuspecting college student’s mind with your liberal rantings. :roll:

  73. #73
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:17 pm, DesertLover said:

    Ed …

    Of course it is … we all know that blowing up NYPD police stations and trying to blow up the pentagon and planning to kill a group of soldiers at Fort Dix is exactly the same as making money payments to a paramilitary group in order to prevent your employees from being killed and having your facilities attacked and destroyed bacause you didn’t pay them …

    Sort of the same thing as gangs in our cities demanding “protection money” from the local businesses … don’t pay … get hurt … go out of business …

  74. #74
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:18 pm, greenfairie said:

    *Hoping Duncan Hunter runs for guv.*

    If not, I’d take porn queen Mary Carey or Gary Coleman over the Dem choices.

  75. #75
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:19 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Rusty,

    The gangs in Haiti get their arms and ammo from the UN. You pay taxes and the USA supports the UN.

    I mean, if we are going to set up straw men, we all support terror by fueling our vehicles - right?

  76. #76
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:21 pm, docflash said:

    lgm,I agree that Sen McCain associated with terrorist,for about 5 years he was hanging in a torture chamber ran by your Viet,Cuban,Russian and Chinese terrorist.But that place had nothing on Gitmo,Right!

  77. #77
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:21 pm, DesertLover said:

    greenfairie …

    is that in CA? … I can just see the Guvernator when Coleman says “Wat chu mean Arnold?” :lol:

  78. #78
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:22 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    OT:

    Tropical Depression #02L has formed off the coast of Africa, South of the Cape Verde islands.

    At least 9 days before this could hit Florida or the Carolinas.

    Interestingly, if this is named, it would be Bertha, and in 1996 the disturbance that became Hurricane Bertha and hit the Carolinas also moved off the coast of Africa on July 1, as this one did.

  79. #79
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:23 pm, DesertLover said:

    meant the governator saying that to coleman … sorry about that …

  80. #80
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:34 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    lgm,

    While we are at it and so you will know the difference.

    Navy Seal – elite. Well trained to do his job and lay his life down for others, his team mate, his fellow man, his country…

    Obama – elitist. Will say anything to get elected. Wants only power. In it for himself. Wouldn’t lay down his life for anything and never served in the military.

    The very next time you mention “Navy Seal” there are only two words that need to follow – “THANK YOU”.

    Now, SHTU.

  81. #81
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:35 pm, Kalifornia Kafir said:

    I’m actually looking forward to Newson running. He’ll most likely have to face LA’s liberal mayor Antonio Villaraigoza in a primary. I want a ringside seat to that show. It’ll be on a par with Geraldine Ferraro v. Barack Obama. White, pretty, boy toy Newson v. the entire Latino political machine. Newsom won’t know what hit him.

  82. #82
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:52 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:34 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Well said, Soap. ;-)

  83. #83
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:53 pm, Rusty said:

    Are there any California politicians who don’t have past adultery scandals?

    Newsome, Villaraigoza, Arnold, Cunningham.

    Good grief!

  84. #84
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:53 pm, sonofdy said:

    Here is my sugestion for his slogan,

    Give me a chance to screw the rest of the state up as well!!!

  85. #85
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:03 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 2nd, 2008 at 12:53 pm, sonofdy said:

    How’s about…

    “Ready to bring San Fran values to all of Mexifornia! Ole!” ;-)

  86. #86
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:03 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Post #77 False Alarm. Navy site calling the disturbance 92L again. There is no Atlantic tropical depression, yet.

  87. #87
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:08 pm, Southpaw said:

    If Newsoms’ S.F. administration can be played for fools by a group of “underaged” illegal immigrant crack dealers, what makes him think he can handle a bigger job in Sacramento?

  88. #88
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:11 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Then I take it this site will not be a major source of funds for Mayor of GayBay for Governor? Except for lgm that is. How you doing you little jerk?


    Approved Newsom Bumper stickers

    Give me a chance to screw the rest of the state up as well!!!
    Illegal Alien Drug Dealers Rock!
    Sodomy and Adultry 2!
    Little Green Men for Newsom

    You probably think that last one is about you don’t you lgm? You are so vain.

  89. #89
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:16 pm, lgm said:

    Barry F. said (#71):

    Obama is endorsed by despots and terrorists from around the globe.

    Maybe, but Obama doesn’t endorse them. He doesn’t have convicted terrorists holding fundraisers.

  90. #90
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:24 pm, lgm said:

    On-my-soap-box said (#79):

    Obama – elitist. Will say anything to get elected. Wants only power. In it for himself.

    This is bad, but it is not what the word elitist means. Look it up. Obama earned his way to one of the most elite universities in the country and was at the top of his class. That’s elite.

    Wouldn’t lay down his life for anything and never served in the military.

    You apply this criterion only when it suits you. You supported Bush, Jr. (who avoided service) against Kerry (who was shot at) and, if you’re old enough, denigrated the service of Bush Sr., who was wounded. Reagan “served” in Hollywood. You probably supported Huckabee or Romney (didn’t serve) and like Cheney.

    Now, SHTU.

    Translation please.

  91. #91
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:38 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:24 pm, lgm said:

    Ronald Reagan was a Captain in the Army, genius.

    Kerry inflicting injury upon himself isn’t exactly the kind of thing to brag about.

    But, there are several past presidents hthat haven’t served in the armed forces, if we listed them off, including Bill Clinton.

    But, really, where would that get us? I have bigger issues with Obama’s double speak on our armed forces. We can’t question his patriotism, you know.

    I don’t think you really want the translation on that last part. ;-)

  92. #92
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:38 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Idiot post #88

    They support Obama. It figures you would not have a problem with terrorist organizations supporting YOUR candidate.

    Idiot post #89

    Sun does not equal hot but it is you dolt. So, Obama is an elitist.

    Unless you have something constructive to add ShutTheHel_UP

    Get it? Somehow, we doubt it.

  93. #93
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:51 pm, Rusty said:

    The “Obama is elitist” argument is astonishingly stupid.

    What is elitist about being an community advisor? What is elitist about getting into one of the country’s top schools? What exactly is elitist about making one’s own wealth instead of being fortunate enough to be born into millions like the Kennedies and Bushes.

    Arugula does not make one elitist (it does make for a funny gaffe). Being a bad bowler does not make one elitist. Even trying expensive ham doesn’t make you an elitist. If someone offered you $100/lb ham, you wouldn’t try it?

  94. #94
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:58 pm, tgusa said:

    Well I have wanted to leave for over five years now. We had a vote, we are somewhat democratic here, well most of the time anyway, before my last went to high school and I lost. But all bets are off now I’m free, free to go where ever I decide. I have been researching where to go and it isn’t easy. I have eliminated any perimeter states from my list, living here for as long as I have I can spot not so easily seen trends and in many cases I don’t like what I see. Take in to consideration that I saw the slippery slope when we were just hearing about the nannies attacking cigarettes, I saw the writing on the wall I knew where it would lead and I was not wrong. I have relatives and friends in most of the fifty states I could go anywhere two of them recently bought a house in Colorado I wonder how they feel about the African national anthem being sung there recently?

    I have narrowed it down to a few states in the western center of the country, thought about moving to Nevada but coming from a state that has Boxer and Feinstein I cant stomach moving to a state where Harry is the man, I consider that a step down. So good luck finding a place to go, but again, it ain’t easy. To steal a line from a prominent leftist, yes we can! My brothers are gone my father is gone most of my friends are gone, I feel like the Omega Man but I know I’m not alone. Just read MM’s site for awhile, there are many others just like me here but we are islands in a sea of insanity greed and narcissism. I had it worse though, when I joined the military they sent this southern Californian to northern Ca. Yep a Socal serviceman in San Francisco and to top it off I rented a place in what was at the time the murder capital of the country. Hey I didn’t know but I did wonder why there were so few people on the street and the rent was so affordable. Talk about Indian country, anything else is gravy. I think back to my late night walks to the neighborhood jack in the box and I say to myself, what an idiot.

  95. #95
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 2:00 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 2nd, 2008 at 1:51 pm, Rusty said:

    I think “elitist” is a pretty good descriptor for Obama, Rusty. The things you cite, by themselves, would not qualify him. But, coupled together, along with other things, like the “bitter” comments back in the Pennsylvania primary, etc. would.

    And, no, I would not care to try “$100/lb ham.” In my neck-of-the-woods, country ham is the preference, especially if it is one you cure yourself. ;-)

  96. #96
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 2:02 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    He doesn’t have convicted terrorists holding fundraisers.

    Trying to kill soldiers on a US Army base is fine and dandy as long as one isn’t convicted, isn’t that right, you unpatriotic puke?

    Your Obamarxist served on boards with this guy, and launched his first election from this guys house, you deceptive turd.

  97. #97
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 2:04 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Obama isn’t an elitist.

    He just can’t understand why arugula is so expensive at Whole Foods, and when he raises money from millionaires in San Francisco, he describes the hicks in Pennsylvania as turning to guns and religion when times get tough.

    But don’t call him an elitist.

  98. #98
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 2:05 pm, abstractmind said:

    Rusty, you’re right. Eating expensive food or having a really nice home and material possessions doesnt make you an elitist.

    His attitude, his “i’m better than you” attitude, and his public image (real or otherwise) make him look like an elitist. His choice of arugula and 100 dollar ham is just the result of his mentality.

    btw, the definition:

    The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.

    It could be applied to Obama in this context, i believe.

  99. #99
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 2:06 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    There is honest debate from misguided libs like Rusty who can handle any personality defect as long as a person supports gay marriage, and then there is the dishonest creep lgm.

    Im my humble opinion.

  100. #100
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 2:28 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On July 2nd, 2008 at 2:05 pm, abstractmind said:
    The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.

    …and guess who is constantly telling us who is better than whom. I will not mention any names but his initials are lgm.

  101. #101
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 3:42 pm, DesertLover said:

    Barry F.

    FYI … here’s a great link to basic questions and answers (such as military service) for our presidents …

    US Presidents

  102. #102
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 4:01 pm, sbw999 said:

    Im glad I dont live in California. Id have to move out of that freaky deaky state by now. Jerry Brown the front runner????? LMAO!!!!!!!!! Doesnt get too much sadder than that; save for Vermont. Even NY isn’t quite that mucked up yet.

  103. #103
    On July 2nd, 2008 at 11:52 pm, vatodio said:

    One serial philanderer from a weirdo city running against another serial philanderer from LA.

    Should be fun.

    Let the insults, accusations, and belittling begin, a la, Hillary vs Obambi style.

  104. #104
    On July 3rd, 2008 at 2:08 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    Rusty,

    But his efforts on behalf of gay marriage rights will always make him a hero to me. A flawed hero? Certainly. But a hero nevertheless.

    You’re idea of a hero is someone who circumvents the law and the will of the majority (the key principle behind democracy) and when it’s covered by the noble people on FOX, he attacks them?

    Osama bin-laden is a hero to many Islamists and neo-Nazis. What’s the difference?

  105. #105
    On July 7th, 2008 at 2:28 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    LGM:

    The Huffington Post? You’ve got to be joking.

    You must have a better source on the issue that than, and I’m willing to bet that McCain HIMSELF has no connection.

    It’s also interesting that you didn’t talk about his sympathy to La Raza. They are a racial supremacy group, but haven’t blown up anything yet.

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