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Any person that volunteers to face off against that threat I have the highest respect for

Then stop s***ting on them and besmirching their reputation. What you continue to post here and spew from your cake-hole in your everyday life shows the exact opposite, showing you to be a poser and a liar. You, and those like you, toss out that disclaimer as well as the, “I suuport the troops” constantly, always followed mby a “but”. Well, there is no butt for those that truly do feel that way, and who don’t need the disclaimer to try tro keep yourself and your statements relevant.

You have shown everyone here your true colors. You are about as pro-American and support the troops just about as much as the former pastor of Obama’s church.

not at all.

Berkeleythurm is the perfect example of someone who lets others do their thinking for them.
Will Berkeley start asking questions about the lies of the liberals – or will Berkeley keep drinking the Kool-Aid?

Berk, the difference between the majority of the posters on here and yourself is that the majority of us have military experience, work experience, to put it bluntly, worldly experience. I was in Afghanistan and I remember being there during searches of villages after our convoys would be attacked. Were these people put out? Yes. Were they humiliated or tortured? No. Berk, you need to understand things like…Amnesty Intl. according to their definitions of torture, they probably consider the mere search of a village as torture. You see, if they do not find things to gripe about, then they lose their argument to exist and demand funding (probably most of it from the U.S.).

Since you believe that all of this torture and mistreatment is going on…shouldn’t you be the most upset about this Sami guy hamming it up and demanding to be carried off in an ambulance, all obviously for dramatic effect? He is taking the attention away from the prisoners who really need your tears.

BTW, how much fuel was used? What was carbon footprint for this flight? I guess it’s ok to kill the environment as long as it’s for the higher cause of setting a terrorist free.

Name the movie character berkeleythurm reminds you of.

I’m going with Upham in “Saving Private Ryan”.

How many innocent civilians are being killed in Darfur, by crazed Muslim tribesmen?

How many innocent civilians are being killed in Tibet, by the Chinese?

How many innocent civilians are being killed in Zimbabwe, by a satanical Marxist dictatorship that has driven out the whites and terrorized and immiserated the blacks?

Answer: by the millions in the first instance, and by the thousands in the second and third.

Now, YOU TELL US, since you claim to KNOW: how many innocent civilians have we killed in Khandahar, Guantanamo, and Bagram?

You better get goddam specific, pal.

You just don’t have logical problems with the idea of proportion, you obviously don’t recognize that there are NO parallels to attacks against civilians and incidents of WAR.

It’s guys like you , who have been nowhere and seen nothing, who shoot off your mouths about adult matters well beyond your ken.

Deep down, you’re shallow.

Arrrrgh. The lawyers have infected you.

Not yet! I was referring to the Left’s contention that there are actually sweet- tea shop owners, innocently languishing in Club Gitmo, because the US Military has some sort of “free school lunch” sign-up quota; whereas the more Islamists they jail, the more our boys in camo benefit.

Acknowledging abuses and misconduct is what distinguishes the United States from its adversaries.

Agreed, but it is the unrelenting “coverage” by the liberal MSM, well beyond the acknowledgement phase, that both aids the Islamofascists and harms the U.S.

How about running the beheading of Nick Berg as many times as we saw the “gentlemen” of Abu Ghraib with underwear on their heads? Sure, they both aid the terrorists, but at least the Berg murder will remind some (and wake up others) about the bestial nature of the vermin we are fighting.

Al Jazeera is the news laundering arm of Al Queda, just as CAIR is the reputation laundering arm of Al Q, Hamas etc., here in the U.S.

The NYTimes and their ilk are just slavish, liberal “useful idiots” for these groups, all too willing to put “unhelpful” stories and pix on the front page, while burying good news after the obit page.

The reality is, you don’t know who is innocent or guilty

Arrrrgh. The lawyers have infected you. There is no guilt or innocence. These are illegal combatants\battlefield detainees. They should never, ever be put on trial. We hold ‘em until hostilities cease. The only early release from their Caribbean paradise is at the end of a shoelace or belt.

you have other countries, including allies of the U.S., laughing in our faces when our government points out Darfur, Zimbabwe, China, etc. The first thing that comes out of their mouthes as a retort: “Guantanamo, Kandahar, and Bagram…”

Which countries are you referring to? Chances are, I will be able to single out past actions on their part and “laugh right back in their faces.”

I don’t know who you are, but you sound like someone who didn’t lose very much when we were hit. If you did, then you apparently don’t have very much resolve.

I’m late to this fight, but when you have upwards to 10% of detainees (who the US Military themselves saw fit to release) being recaptured or killed on the battlefields of this war on terror, I don’t care who the Left thinks are innocent.

The reality is, you don’t know who is innocent or guilty; but it is frightening how willing the Left are to take the other side (the ones who want to see us either destroyed or dead) at their word.

How many of the repeat terror offenders (that were originally released from Gitmo) did the “compassionate Left” believe to be innocent?

From day one, 9/12/01, I have believed this to be a war for our survival. Not a war to try to impress misguided liberals across the globe.

Acknowledging abuses and misconduct is what distinguishes the United States from its adversaries.

True. No problem with that.

Not denying them, not running away from them; admitting them, correcting them, being accountable for them.

Redundant, but yeah, yeah, yeah.

That’s not happening

Incorrect, wrong, untrue. It is happening. Maybe you just missed it.

and that’s why you have other countries, including allies of the U.S., laughing in our faces when our government points out Darfur, Zimbabwe, China, etc.

Wrong again and not just because countries don’t laugh, people do. When China laughs at us do we see its yellow, crooked teeth? Frankly, who gives a fig what Sweden thinks about how we’re managing the war?

The first thing that comes out of their mouthes as a retort: “Guantanamo, Kandahar, and Bagram…”

The first thing out of their hummus-holes is usually “Allahu Akbar”, followed by “Death to America,” or “I’ll keeeel you.” You just have to listen.