Estupido: Juan Hernandez gives dumb advice; McCain takes it
Whose idea was it to send John McCain down to Mexico the day before Independence Day and have him grovel for Latino votes south of the border by visiting the Basilica de Guadalupe–a famed Catholic shrine featuring the image of the Virgin of Guadalupe, which most Mexican politicians consider off-limits for campaigning?
According to Frentes Politicos (hat tip - reader Edgar M.), the stunt was the brainchild of none other than McCain’s open-borders Hispanic outreach director and former Mexican cabinet official Juan Hernandez, who apparently survived the big campaign staff shake-up:
I. El truco para la buena imagen fue idea de Juan Hernández —el director de la Oficina Presidencial para Mexicanos en el Exterior de Vicente Fox—, quien hoy asesora en asuntos de hispanos al candidato presidencial republicano de EU, John McCain. Dentro del equipo de campaña refieren que el consejero supo referir cuán afortunada en simpatía mexicana resulta una visita a la Basílica de Guadalupe, dada la centenaria cultura popular de equiparar “estadunidense” con “protestante”.
Rough translation via Babelfish (if you’ve got a better one, let me know):
I. The trick for the good image was [the] idea of Juan Hernandez - the Mexican director of the Presidential Office [of Mexicans Living Outside Mexico for] Vicente Fox, who today advises in subjects Hispanic to the Republican presidential candidate of the [Estados Unidos/United States], John McCain. Within the field equipment they refer that the advisor knew to refer how lucky in Mexican affection is a visit to the Basilica from Guadalupe, given the centennial popular culture to compare “estadunidense” with “protestant”.
Hernandez, of course, served under former Mexican president Vicente Fox–who, what a coinky-dink, also wrapped himself in the banner of the Virgin of Guadalupe while campaigning.
Here’s McCain with the Virgin of Guadalupe looming over him during a Mexican TV interview:
Could Hernandez and friends be more heavy-handed?
McCain’s visit last week confounded Mexicans, irked grass-roots American conservatives, and failed to mollify the un-mollify-able shamnesty forces on either side of the border. All for one cheap, pandering photo-op.
If Obama had pulled something this crass and stupid on the eve of Independence Day weekend, Republicans would be having a field day today.
Instead, you’ll hear…nada.
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Next pander-stops:
McCain and Obama speak to the League of United Latin American Citizens’ national convention on Tuesday in Washington and the National Council of La Raza/The Race on Saturday in San Diego.
As I mentioned last week, San Diego votes on a La Raza/The Race Day declaration on Tuesday.
Raza Twin Powers: Activate!
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Here’s my attempt at it:
McCain thinks he’s running for President of Latin America, that’s the problem. The poor guy’s had an anurism. Let’s ship him off to a nursing home and nominate somebody with at least one foot in reality.
mileslibertatis said:
Well done on the translation, but isn’t this a tenuous thing to be basing an article on?
So according to “Frentes Politicos” it was all Juan Hernandez’s idea… Where they got that who knows? They don’t say. It might be Juan Hernandez padding his resume.
Did anyone ask the McCain campaign to confirm or deny this? Or did we just toss it into the piranha tank without even the nod to fairness…
No, McCain is brain cancer and Obama is lung cancer. They are both cancers on the body politic.
Right, it would be so much better if it was all McCains idea.
Sanctimonious prig. You are not going to force any changes on McCain, and you are going to be screwed if either of these two traitors becomes President.
Well yes. He is trying to get the Hispanic vote in the USA.
Thanks for taking some time from the Democratic underground to try to split the “repugs” there flenser. You do know how to “stay on message”. The only thing classier then calling someone a “Sanctimonious prig” is calling someone who spent 5 and a half years in a North Vietnamese POW camp defending your right to free speech a “traitor”.
I can’t think of anyone who spent five and a half years in a North Vietnamese POW camp defending my right to free speech.
Of course he is, you buffoon! That’s why he is campaigning for votes in Mexico!
And you think of the company you keep if you do what you are planning on.
Let’s see…We’ve got..
BHO –no stocks in US companies/no flag pin-no saying the pledge..
Micelle O–doesn’t like her country (proud-was the word used)
Johnny Mc—an aisle reachere>>left side..w/advisors who are -shall we say “hate-filled” toward the US
Cindi McCain-a manager of a large co.-a mother who has successful children(that didn’t come from no-where you know
and on and on…
I vote for Cindi!~!!!!!!!
On July 8th, 2008 at 12:48 am, flenser said:
Such gratitude! Every Soldier, Sailor, Airman and Marine takes an oath to defend and uphold the constitution so yes flenser, your freedoms were bought and paid for by people like him. McCain is the only viable presidential candidate that has served this country with distinction. The choice in viable presidential candidates is either him or Obama. Just FYI.
Newt Gingrich. I know, he is not running. But he is the only TRUE CONSERVATIVE in sight at this point. Could he be elected? Only if every TRUE CONSERVATIVE write his name in.
Sorry for yelling (caps) but I am that upset.
I am committed– that is what it will take– make a stand early and spread the word.
SpeakEasy, many have spoken of a write-in name. Gingrich is a good choice. So would be Thompson and Hunter. I wonder why someone with a prominent blog, like Michelle for example, hasn’t started a write-in campaign. Maybe we could call it the blog party candidate. If the blogshere and talk radio got behind this idea, it would definitely change the election and send a message to the RNC.
I’m willing to suffer Obama for four years to fix get rid of McCain and send the RNC, and Republican politicians, a message.
Now that’s funny.
Eeer, actually Bill I was mocking you for mocking me. You used a quote by me to beg people to vote for McCain even though they HATE him and I had clearly said following the quote you used that the old amnesty lover is, sadly, my ONLY choice…
My dislike of Ghramnisty, Liberalman, Kennedy, Hernandez, McAmnesty and the rest of the “give Mexico back” crew is “reality” Bill.
I think Obama is going to win because he is a much stronger candidate, is more likeable, and sounds competent when compared to McAmnesty who can’t even give a speech without putting me to sleep. While Obama is standing in a huge stadium to thunderous standing applause accepting the demoncratic nomination, McAmnesty is going to stand on a stage in front of some stupid “green” sign and mumble, “Eeer my friends, illegals are God’s children and we will NEVER drill in ANWR.”
America is doomed, doomed, doomed…
On July 7th, 2008 at 10:41 pm, Bill Grant said:
McCain IS actually a conservative with a lifetime conservative rating of 82%.
Very well stated, and I concur.
Serving in the military doesn’t qualify you to be POTUS. It increases the likelihood that you are honorable, which is a trait we like to see in a president.
Being a POW doesn’t qualify you to be POTUS. If you survive, it increases the likelihood that you are a man of tremendous personal courage, and probably very loyal to your country.
Does it guarantee these things?
Of course not.
JFK was a legitimate war hero. What he did in the Solomons showed tremendous personal courage and small unit leadership. His family will always be rightfully proud of his actions there.
Was he an honorable man? You know the answer.
Was he a good president? You know the answer to that, too.
John McCain is a hero. A bona fide hero.
Is he an honorable man? I’m not so sure. His actions in Mexico aren’t what I’d expect from an honorable man.
Just as important: they’re not what I’d expect from an intelligent man. As I’ve said several times, regardless of who wins this November, it’s hard to believe that we will look back at the Dubya years as “back when we had a smart president.”
Both McCain and Obama are about as dumb as anyone I’ve ever seen run for this office. Their ignorance is appalling.
One thing I *am* sure of: McCain is not what any conservative would call a conservative.
That’s why I plan on not voting for him.
On July 8th, 2008 at 6:44 am, orlandocajun said:
Except that it won’t be four years.
Oh, he many only be in office for four years if he wins, but the damage that he will do to the fabric of this nation will be irreversible.
Bill, myself and others have tirelessly tried to explain to the irrational, irresponsible McCain haters here exactly what type of damage will be done to the country with a Socialist POTUS. Restructuring and defunding the military and multiple lifetime appointments of far-left leaning judges to the Supreme Court are only the tip of the iceberg.
As for “sending a message” to the RNC, it’s time for you and everyone else here who is complaining about RINOs to embrace reality.
Washington has been crippled by years and years and YEARS of animosity and gridlock, and the American people are sick of it. The trend is leaning strongly away from extremist politics (both left and right) and towards moderation/centrism for exactly that reason.
And it’s about damned time, in my estimation.
On July 8th, 2008 at 8:26 am, RobM1981 said:
Has it ever occured to you that not all conservatives think like you do?
Bill,
I see that you’re hard at work again trying to reason with the ignorant, arrogant and irrational here at MM.
You must be downing Mylanta by the quart ;).
On July 8th, 2008 at 8:18 am, Rob said:
Get a grip.
lol, America is doomed….
yeah, but only if the Sun goes out.
and if you have a date for this event do tell, I will really step up my lifestyle…..
Irish Rose, ajmontana…
America as I know it and love it is doomed.
Take a look at the most recent report of the Mexican population of Los Angeles schools. It is a change coming to your neighborhood soon.
already here in mine rob, but doomed is a lil drastic. afu would work.
On July 8th, 2008 at 9:01 am, Rob said:
Irish Rose, ajmontana…
America is doomed because of “the Mexican population”? OK, if you say so.
I see that you don’t differentiate here between illegals and legal immigrants from Mexico, Rob… you just lump them all together.
Please clarify: are we doomed because of illegal Mexicans or are we doomed because of Mexicans in general?
According to wise man, Bill, Ordinary Coloradan, and Rose It’ll be the day Obama takes the oath of office because some conservatives voted for a third party candidate.
On July 8th, 2008 at 9:11 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:
Whose idea was it to send John McCain down to Mexico
Worse yet, who let him back in? He is so enamored with Mexico perhaps he can run for office there.
McCain to Mexico
Obama and Mama to Ragheadistan
You clearly hate Mexicans and you refer to Middle Easterners as “ragheads”… nice.
You know what you are, AN? You’re a racist bigot.
And sadly, you seem to have a lot of company here at MM.
There are a lot of issues that I think are destroying America. But my not liking to push 1 for English, gang tagging in my once clean neighborhood, free lunches given to most of the students, free tuition for illegals, etc, etc, etc, I guess the answer to your question is, Mexicans in general.
Then you’re also a racist bigot.
And it’s unfortunate that Michelles’ blog has become a magnet for folks like you.
Do your fellow conservatives and the Republican party in general a favor, Rob, and go independent. People like you give the rest of us a bad name.
.
And you think you are giving McCain a good name?
and Irish Rose goes on attacking Michelle and the conservatives who post on her blog…
…nothing new here…
…move along…
…move along…
Those of you who hate “Mexicans in general” and “ragheads” should pay a visit to stormfront.org.
There are plenty of like-minded folks over there, you’d fit right in.
Those of you who claim to be conservatives and would actually defend such rank bigotry, have absolutely NO excuse.
Can anyone recall ANY presidential candidate EVER going to a foreign country, other than to a US military base, to CAMPAIGN for the job of president? (sitting presidents are clearly exempt)
I can only assume that a candidate is going to go where he figures he can get votes, and McCain must believe he can get more votes by going to a foreign country then he can by talking to actual US citizens.
Can we just vote Irish Rose off the island? She would be happier on the Daily Kos.
There JHS, fixed that for ya.
There Irish Rose, I fixed it for you.
You’re doing none of the things you claim to be doing - but you are attacking people who actually are doing what you claim to be doing.
On July 8th, 2008 at 9:55 am, Rob said:
Nice try.
Hey Irish Rose,
The reality is that for many decades there has been a pressure by many in Mexico to illegally emmigrate to the US. Prior to the last 20 years, the US has responded by sending the invaders home. Unfortunatly, the political leaders we have had for the last 20 years were simply not interested, for a variety of reasons, in enforcing the borders of the US.
This is not a simple matter of pointing a finger at one political party or the other, but rather at both of them.
Also note, Mexico is not a race, it is a nationality. This was most clearly demonstrated by the people that decided to march in the streets of the US under FOREIGN flags.
Did you remember to tell Mommy to get you more Cheetohs from the mini-mart this morning, little man?
Sorry, there is no excuse for bigotry.
None.
and here Irish Rose #140 proves me right!
You’re doing none of the things you claim to be doing - but you are attacking people who actually are doing what you claim to be doing. You know; challenging duplicity, criticizing hypocrisy and exposing soft bigotry.
Don’t let the facts get in your way, Irish Rose!!
I’ve been watching this thread since it started. Interesting points from alot of people.
As someone who is still mostly undecided…even with the “Obama is going to dooooooooom us all” rhetoric…i’m still not convinced I should vote for McCain.
I’m still tempted to just write someone in and be done with it, and really dont care one way or the other. Both candidates are going to screw us over…it just depends on how much and how fast it happens.
I would agree at this point, however, that McCain isn’t a traitor. I think he’s an open borders advocate who is willing to capitulate on anything and everything to help illegals into our country (among other political flaws i think he has that are abhorant), but…i wouldnt go so far as traitor. At this stage, i’d go with spineless or pandering….but not traitorous.
Still, many conservatives remain skeptical, and he may face a fight this summer when the GOP platform is rewritten. The current plank supports comprehensive reform, in keeping with President Bush’s views, and Mr. McCain’s from 2004.
Mr. McCain sent mixed signals, reiterating his security-first pledge while calling comprehensive reform his “top priority yesterday, today, and tomorrow.”
Illegal-immigration foes weren’t impressed. “He speak with forked tongue,” Mr. Stein said. “We’ve all tangled with McCain for years. We know where his heart lies.”
Link to article
On July 8th, 2008 at 7:41 am, khan said:
Not as funny as someone who voted for Ralph Nader and Ross Perot lecturing on what it is to be a consirvative.
I would like to think that I am not at the begging stage yet. If I do get there it is only because I love the USA.
Have you joined FAIR? I do not care for the direction McCain tends to take on immigration however it is only one issue among many. I will resolve myself to push for tighter control of the border once he is elected. Further, Obama is truly an open boarders advocate, not just from Mexico either.
By that criteria we should run someone like David Lee Roth or Sigfried and Roy for president. Obama may win because McCains base, you excluded haven’t yet figured out that the choice is simply McCain or Obama. Writing in “Fred Thompson” (Who has a lifetime consirvative rating at 86% versus McCains 82%) will only get Obama elected.
mcamnesty absolutely sux!!! Let’s see. he addresses the la raza nat’l convention. He went to mexico and south america last week. Now he is addressing the LULAC conference. Yep, he certainly represents everything I support. Like an invasion. His pandering is disgusting and enough to make me say the h*ll with him. He gave us passee americans the finger in order to pick up hispanic nationalist votes, and all you supporters are too damn scared of obama to see the danger of this deplorable candidate for POTUS. Death by hanging or death by suicide. I choose neither.
and Bill Grant trolls in to get a shot at me too…
yawn.
Such hysterics. If you can’t see that Obama needs to be kept out of the oval office because “are too damn scared” of Hispanics (who, for reasons that have NOTHING to do with John McCain are now a voting block that has to be addressed in a presidential election, deal with it.) then you deserve to live in a bankrupt, socialist, mess of a country with even MORE immigrants. (only this time from predominately muslim countries) The only problem with that is that I have to live in the USA as well so you are not just crapping in your own nest but you are crapping in mine as well.
I’m still wondering how attacking Conservatives is going to make them want to support or vote for McCain…????
What you said.
Anyone who is “conservative” wouldn’t think of letting Obama become president. Additionally, being a crybaby isn’t a “conservative” attribute.
He’s just baiting you Bill, same as always. He does it because moderation here is non-existant and he knows it.
He’s a total waste of your time, ignore him.
The openly racist bigots up above are a lot more worrisome, and far more deserving of your critique than someone like JHS.
This should give you some insight into what makes some of the people here tick… and sadly, I begin to wonder if our hostess isn’t one of them.
more projection from Irish Rose…
Irish Rose proves my question by yet another attack.
So, I’ll ask again:
How is attacking Conservatives going to make us want to support or vote for McCain?
On July 8th, 2008 at 5:16 pm, JHSII said:
Bill Grant, of course, couldn’t answer my question - had to take another shot at me.
…and Bill says he wants us to support and vote for McCain
Why should we?
Why should we support McCain and vote for him when his “supporters” keep attacking us? How does that engender our support?
JHSII, the McCainiac bullies and cheerleaders are not here to answer any questions rationally - they are here to call names and attack anyone who does not support McCain unquestioningly. Any minute now they will start blaming you personally for McVains possible loss and the end of the world as we know it - it just cannot be that McCain might bear any responsibility for his own loss!
LOL, I did answer your question.
#154:
See?
Come on, aren’t the people who you bump in to during the course of your day sick of hearing the word “projection/projecting?”
Look at #148
-too funny.
You never did answer my question Bill. You attacked me again. That is what people are sick of hearing.
Here is the question:
How does attacking a Conservative make us want to support or vote for McCain?
Note that calling us “crybabies” and attacking us still doesn’t answer the question.
Yes I did.
You have a rather ninny definition of “attacking”.
“People” are sick of you repeating the word “projection” over and over as well.
You are not a “consirvative”.
What’s this “us” stuff, you are the only one I have called a crybaby.
And another attack from Bill rather than a response to the question. Obama is not an answer. Attacking someone as not being a “conservative” also isn’t an answer.
Other than driving away potential McCain supporters and potential McCain voters what exactly has Bill achieved here? To be honest he sounds like an Obama supporter trying to drive down support for McCain.
Which is it Bill?
Are you a McCain supporter trying to get more support for him by us attacking Conservatives?
Or are you an Obama supporter trying to drive down support for McCain?
Well you see, I did answer your question. Sorry if you didn’t like the answer or more probably understand it. You might actually try reading the response before you moan about being attacked.
Are you a “potential McCain supporter”?
Where have I attacked a consirvative?
No. That thought crossed my mind about you though. In your case I doubt it. I suspect that you are just looking for approval from an online peer group.
Still no answer and more attacks from Bill. No surprise here.
So, I suppose I should ask again the question he doesn’t want to answer:
How does attacking a Conservative make us want to support or vote for McCain?
Anyone else want to field this one?
Oh yes, an answer. Anyone wishing to follow along can simply tilt their head back abd see that you have had your quotes posted and answered. Maybe you didn’t like the answer. Maybe you only see what you want to see. But they are there.
You poor thing. Had I realized I was dealing with an 8 year old prepubescent girl I wouldn’t have “attacked” by answering your what will probably be an endless asking of the same question. You may think that is clever but it makes you look like “Rain Man”.
Asking the same questions gets the same answers.
STOP right there. Firstly you are not a consirvative. Conservatives value individualism and you are simply seeking approval from what you believe is your peer group. In other words; conservatives aren’t as needy as you are.
Secondly, you seem to think that pointing out the flaws in your logic is an attack. While I admit that calling you a “crybaby” may be seen as an “attack” it isn’t. It is an accurate description of someone who can not defend his positions yet whines that they are being “attacked” when something challenges them.
Cut the “us” BS, you only speak for yourself.
Let me ask you again: are you a potential McCain supporter?
Translation: “Help!”
I’ll say one thing for Bill, he’s consistant.
He consistantly attacks Conservatives.
He consistantly won’t tell us how attacking Conservatives is going to engender support or votes for McCain.
He’s a consistant liar.
He’s a consistant troll.
More and more it looks like Bill is just another Obama stooge trying to drive potential votes and support away from McCain.
Let’s give him one more try to prove me wrong.
What’s it going to be, Bill?
And you being deliberately obtuse is such a refreshing change from you being deliberately obtuse.
Nope.
Nope, regardless, why should I be the only oner answering questions? I have asked you several times: Are you a potential McCain supporter? Who taught you the word engender by the way?
Where have I lied? Should be easy enough to prove.
Only according to a consistent idiot.
This board has it’s fair share I will admit. However I am not one of them. You seem to be just fine with an Obama presidency. Ironic that you consider yourself a consirvative. I might have mentioned that once or twice.
One more try? Does that mean you are going to shut whine hole?
At what. Everything has been answered. I am not “attacking” conservatives. I am not “attacking” conservatives. See, get it? If you are willing to allow yourself to sit on the sidelines while a full on socialist gets elected and surrenders a war that the country is fighting to a determined enemy then you are not a consirvative. And “attacking”? Please… grow up.
Yet more attacks from Bill proving me right.
He can’t answer the question of why anyone should support McCain. He can’t answer the question of why anyone should vote for McCain.
All he can do is attack Conservatives.
Pavlov’s dog would be proud of you, Bill.
*Yawn*
How does pointing out that you are a crybaby prove you right?
Woah…That is NOT the question you asked. Yes I can answer that:
We are in a war on 2 fronts. McCain has been consistently correct in how that war should be prosecuted. He has been correct in terms of the strategy/personnel/equipment and tactics that should be employed in fighting this war. McCain will not surrender to or appease the monsters who have attacked us. McCain will balance the budget and bring fiscal responsibility back to government which has nearly bankrupted us. McCain will protect our rights by appointing judges who won’t mangle the constitution to interpret it to say whatever they want it to say. McCain will not sign over American sovereignty to the UN or any other international entity. A Mccain victory will send the likes of Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and John Murtha; true villains reeling and will force the likes of George Soros to reconsider their plans for subjugating the American people. I can go on for hours.
You didn’t ask that question either: In addition to the above, Barack Obama WILL surrender and appease terrorists, sell out our ally in the middle east for cheaper oil, disgrace the country, hobble the military, wreck the economy with entitlement programs that CAN NOT BE PRIED AWAY, Wreck the economy by not allowing any drilling and allowing energy prices to soar. He will turn the country in to a welfare state. Allow our schools to continue to be used for indoctrination instead of education, SELL OUT AMERICAN SOVEREIGNTY to international organizations that resent everything this country stands for amd grow government to proportions that are truly disgusting. Not to mention that we may lose a city or 2 because he emboldened our enemy by caving in to them. Enough? I can keep going…
You aren’t a consirvative.
Whelp, (heh) that makes one dumb animal that I won over this evening. Guess Pavlov’s dog is smarter then you are.
It seems that Bill can’t do anything but attack Conservatives. And yes, despite what Bill says - I am a Conservative.
Should we give Bill yet another chance to prove me wrong?
How does attacking Conservatives engender their support or vote for McCain?
Most people drop their imaginary friends before they hit puberty, JHS.
Just sayin.
No imaginary friends for me, Irish Rose.
You know that more than just you, Bill, and me have to sit through your and his tirades. These aren’t private messages.
Want to join the grown-ups now?
Gee, I answered each and every one of your questions. It is obvious that I have done so. That makes you a liar.
Well, no, not if you are willing to see Barack Obama as president because of your prolonged temper tantrum that McCain got more votes from more republicans then anyone else.
Anyone can tilt their head back and read ad nausium how you have proven yourself wrong.
Again, I have to stop you there. You are a big crybaby. Simply stringing this out to get the last word doesn’t change that. I would think that you would be more interested in not embarrassing yourself further.
Tirades? I can barely keep my eyes open a this tedious juncture. The point that was lost on you is that you only speak for yourself. Looking at the job you do of it I don’t think you are going to be elected anyones spokes-model any time soon.
So funny, you are told to grow up and you wheel around and invite others to grow up. That is the whole “projection” thing that you still haven’t come to grips with.
More attacks from Bill. Still no answer to the question.
How does attacking Conservatives engender their support or vote for McCain?
Maybe that will help.
For some reason, I doubt it.
I haven’t attacked conservatives. You are not a consirvative. If you see being asked to defend your position as an attack, that makes you a big crybaby. A fact well established at this point.
So, that clear it all up for you there crybaby?
Good point.
With the Democrats in control of both houses of Congress? No way in hell that happens without a massive, and I mean MASSIVE tax increase.
Do you really believe he will appoint someone who will overturn something like campaign finace reform with the dems in control of the Senate? Dream on, Bill.
He’ll just leave our southern border open to anybody that wants to step over it. What was that you were saying about sovereignty?
McCain has promised to reach across the isle and work with those villains, remember?
Could you clarify this, please?
Legalizing 20 million poor and uneducated illegal aliens will tend to do that. What’s McCain’s position on that again?
What is McCain going to do about that? Be specific.
We’re already there. Bush and the Republicans in Congress saw to that.
We may also lose a city or ten because of open borders advocates like Juan Hernandez. Who does he work for again?
Another post of lies and an attack on Conservatives from Bill.
I notice that he still didn’t answer the question. Even STRONG and EMPHASIS didn’t help. Maybe he has trouble with reading comprehension.
I’ll ask again without the strong and emphasis. I’ll quote it this time. Maybe that will help.
That in itself is a lie.
Oh yes, I did, Ill cut and paste since you missed it:
I haven’t attacked conservatives. You are not a consirvative. If you see being asked to defend your position as an attack, that makes you a big crybaby. A fact well established at this point.
So, that clear it all up for you there crybaby?
You are a real attention whore, aren’t you? You must be pretty lonely in real life. Either that or you crave abuse.
OK, I will too:
Think what damage they could do with the executive and legislative branches.
Or a reduction in spending, which he has promised.
Yes. He has promised to appoint constructionist judges. Why wouldn’t he? Seriously, snarky comment about campaign finance reform aside, why wouldn’t he appoint people who take the constitution literally instead of the “living document” BS?
From an article on todays hysterically hyped LULAC address:
Look, either way, immigration reform is going to mean that pro-enforcement people are going to have to get off our rears and make our opinion known.
So did Bush. McCain will no longer have any incentive for cooperation once he is out of the Senate. He loathes Reid and Murtha. In terms of working with those villains Obama will sign whatever the hell they send him.
Sure, not allowing any domestic production of oil, turning Iraq over to Iran and al Qaeda, allowing the Iranians to choke off the flow of oil through the strait of Hormuz where 80% of the worlds oil flows through, allowing Iran time to build an atomic bomb… All of these STUPID policies will cause oil to rise. Which is fine with him.
No one ever said that they were going to legalize 20 million illegal aliens.
Take on the teachers unions and allow tenured teachers to be fired.
Best to just give up then… No, there is disgusting and there is intolerable.
I have yet to see a Mexican fly an aircraft full of people into a building full of people. I HAVE seen an islamist do that.
More lies and attacks on Conservatives from Bill.
I am a Conservative. I know that Bill doesn’t like that, because he keeps lying about it, but it’s a fact.
And now Bill is calling me a “crybaby” because he can’t answer a question. Why is that? What’s so difficult about the question?
It should be an easy question to answer. I could answer it in two words. Ok, three words, unless you use a contraction. Still, it shouldn’t be that difficult of a question.
So, is Bill going to continue to call names and attack Conservatives? Or is he going to answer the question?
And Bill, saying that you have answered the question - when you haven’t - isn’t an answer. The answer also isn’t the Obamamessiah.
What’s it going to be Bill? Are you going to keep proving that you’re a liar and a troll? Are you going to keep up the attacks on Conservatives? Or are you going to answer the question?
You know, the world really isn’t waiting.
An islamist can walk across the border just as easily as a Mexican (or any other illegal alien) looking for work, Bill. I’ll address the rest of your post tomorrow if I have time. Good debating with you…
I agree, we need to secure the border. Boy how we need to secure the border. We needed to do it 50 years ago…
Cheers, Ill check in tomorrow.
A consirvative and a crybaby are mutually exclusive.
Not lying, just stating the obvious. no need to get a run in your mascara Tammy Faye…
Gee, I have answered it a few dozen times now. Even you ought to have understood it by now. No, obviously I am not calling you a crybaby because “I can’t answer a question”, I am calling you a crybaby because you act like a crybaby. Look at the lame way in which you keep stating the same thing over and over… “You are being attacked” waah waaah waaah. If someone were calling you a “rapist” would you prove them wrong by going out and raping someone? If someone were to call you a car thief wold you prove them wrong by going out and stealing a car?
So why are you trying to prove that you are not a big, rattle tossing crybaby by acting like a big crybaby? Just curious… Because the whole acting like a big crybaby routine is basically conformation of your big crybaby status.
Hi Solo!!
Actually an islamist (or Mexican or any other illegal alien) doesn’t even need to be looking for work to waltz across the border.
I think it was Sean Hannity that went down there to the border and stepped across the little falling-down thing they laughingly call a “fence” supposedly into Mexican territory. The liberals had a fit, and demanded that Hannity be prosecuted for crossing the border illegaly. The hilarious thing was that the “fence” was ten feet on our side of the border! Sean Hannity crossed the fence, but not the border.
The liberal answer to illegal immigration - Prosecute Hannity who never even left the country but not people actually crossing the border coming in illegally by the truckload.
More lies and attacks from the usual suspect, Bill Grant. He won’t answer the question about why attacking Conservatives is supposed to get them to support and vote for McCain, but he sure can spend his time lying about me, calling me names, and attacking Conservatives. And he’s supposed to be so superior to me - by his own account.
Sorry Bill, but you’re proving the perfect example of Pavlov’s dog. And with every post you prove me right. You’re a troll…and not a very good one at that.
Where have I lied? liar.
I haven’t attacked conservatives, therefore your question is a lie.
What, that you are a crybaby?
Translation: “boo hoo hoo… ”
What account is that? Is that another one of your lies? Or just your inferiority complex piping up?
It’s too late for apologies.
Really? I don’t recall YOU stating that you were a crybaby as well.
Another post filled with lies and attacks from Bill Grant. Now he’s deliberately taking what I posted out of context so he can get in a few more lies and attacks.
I note that he still can’t answer the question: “How does attacking Conservatives engender their support or vote for McCain?”
However, he can spin, twist, distort and outright lie. The attacks on Conservatives also continue.
Bill has proven to be a troll. I’ve given him every chance to prove otherwise, but he chooses not to.
If that’s the way you want it, Bill, ok with me. I’ll treat you as the troll you’ve proven to be. It was your decision, your choice. You didn’t have to.
BTW, nice threadjack into attacks on Conservatives.
If I quote your effluence how is it being taken out of context? Where have I lied you big baby?
Well I note that you are an idiot and I have answered it 6 times.
The only outright lie is that I haven’t answered your question, idiot. It’s a provable one too. Tilt your empty head back and look.
And you have proven yourself to be a crybaby with about a 90 IQ. Maybe 85. So by all means do stay home on election day. I doubt that the keepers at your group home would let you vote for McCain anyway.
So glad whatever is OK with you.
“Conservatives”, as in plural? Look, you do not speak for “conservatives” or anyone else other then yourself you needy lemming. Additionally, you are not a consirvative. You are a lead paint chip eating obamatard.
Now, if you will excuse me, I have to turn in. You see, I need to earn enough tomorrow to pay taxes in order to keep you in government cheese. Night night, crybaby.
SOP for Bill Grant: Lies, trolling, name-calling, and attacks on Conservatives.
When you’re willing to discuss anything in a mature, intelligent manner then we can actually have a conversation.
On July 9th, 2008 at 7:42 am, JHSII said:
You don’t have a mature, intelligent bone in your body so why would Bill or anyone else want to attempt a conversation with you? This is not an attack, it’s simply the truth as made obvious by your own words in your preceeding posts.
Look around, JHS… you’re pretty much alone here and in nearly every other thread where you participate. You might get an occasional nod from people who haven’t yet figured you out, but you are ignored here for the most part. People are tired of your absurd, juvenile rants and cries for attention and they’ve gone elsewhere.
You’re a classic marcissist, JHS, and this blog is your narcissistic supply. You use threads like this as a platform for your narcissistic rants, trying to rally other people behind your idiocy, because you crave and desperately need attention.
Look around, JHS… it’s not working, is it?
You’ve lost your credibility on this blog and you lost it a long time ago, but you can’t see it. You continue to rant endlessly because you’re impressed with your own “brilliance”.
How sad for you that you are incapable of seeing yourself as others see you.
I’m telling you these things as a favor, JHS, because I really feel sorry for you. Narcissism is a classic personality disorder, and when you put your sickness on display like this your credibility nosedives.
You seem to be very obsessive about having the last word on these threads… for the sake of your own respectibility, you might try S’ing TFU once in a while.
/she’s attacking me, waaaah!
No crying here, Irish Rose, although you do at least admit that you are attacking me.
If we’re going to get into definitions of each other, Irish Rose, then your definition would be Projection. You see, I’m not the one with the problems you so clearly define. But if you only see what you want to see, and read only what you want to read, then I could see why you would have those problems.
You should take your own advice. It might help. Then again, it might not.
I never attacked conservatives, You are not a consirvative, you are a gigantic crybaby who repeats the same answered question over and over like a parrot with a lobotomy.
I am not now, nor have I ever been interested in having a conversation with you. You are an idiot. A boring one at that. If I wanted to have a discussion that was “mature” or “intelligent” you would pretty much be the last person I would seek out.
It’s the SOP for Bill Grant: Lies, trolling, name-calling, and attacks on Conservatives.
You know, with every post you prove everything I post about you. Good job.