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The “C” in CNN stands for clueless

By Michelle Malkin  •  July 7, 2008 04:19 AM

Take a look at the man on the left in this photo from CPAC 2007:

War heros at CPAC

He is Col. George Everett “Bud” Day, the nation’s most highly decorated soldier since General Douglas MacArthur. It was a thrill to meet this genuine American hero in person.

Read:

Medal of Honor citation

Rank and organization: Colonel (then Major), U.S. Air Force, Forward Air Controller Pilot of an F-100 aircraft. Place and date: North Vietnam, 26 August 1967. Entered service at: Sioux City, Iowa. Born: 24 February 1925, Sioux City, Iowa. Citation: On 26 August 1967, Col. Day was forced to eject from his aircraft over North Vietnam when it was hit by ground fire. His right arm was broken in 3 places, and his left knee was badly sprained. He was immediately captured by hostile forces and taken to a prison camp where he was interrogated and severely tortured. After causing the guards to relax their vigilance, Col. Day escaped into the jungle and began the trek toward South Vietnam. Despite injuries inflicted by fragments of a bomb or rocket, he continued southward surviving only on a few berries and uncooked frogs. He successfully evaded enemy patrols and reached the Ben Hai River, where he encountered U.S. artillery barrages. With the aid of a bamboo log float, Col. Day swam across the river and entered the demilitarized zone. Due to delirium, he lost his sense of direction and wandered aimlessly for several days. After several unsuccessful attempts to signal U.S. aircraft, he was ambushed and recaptured by the Viet Cong, sustaining gunshot wounds to his left hand and thigh. He was returned to the prison from which he had escaped and later was moved to Hanoi after giving his captors false information to questions put before him. Physically, Col. Day was totally debilitated and unable to perform even the simplest task for himself. Despite his many injuries, he continued to offer maximum resistance. His personal bravery in the face of deadly enemy pressure was significant in saving the lives of fellow aviators who were still flying against the enemy. Col. Day’s conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty are in keeping with the highest traditions of the U.S. Air Force and reflect great credit upon himself and the U.S. Armed Forces.

Air Force Cross citation

The Air Force Cross is presented to George Everett Day, Colonel, United States Air Force, for extraordinary heroism in military operations against an opposing armed force as a Prisoner of War in North Vietnam from 16 July 1969 to 14 October 1969. During this period, Colonel Day was subjected to maximum punishment and torture by Vietnamese guards to obtain a detailed confession of escape plans, policies, and orders of the American senior ranking officer in the camp, and the communications methods used by the Americans interned in the camp. Colonel Day withstood this punishment and gave nothing of value to the Vietnamese, although he sustained many injuries and open wounds to his body. Through his extraordinary heroism and willpower, in the face of the enemy, Colonel Day reflected the highest credit upon himself and the United States Air Force.

Make sure you click on all those links and then be sure to leave the links in the comments section of this clueless CNN piece about Col. Day.

Why? Because you wouldn’t know about Col. Day’s extraordinary heroism if you only got your news from CNN, which falsely states in a reductionist hit job on Day: “McCain Truth Squad defender was Swift Boat Vet member.”

Greyhawk at Mudville Gazette and Scott Johnson at Power Line (more here) set the record straight.

CNN owes a correction and an apology for its ignorance, disrespect, and the warped propaganda it disseminated about Col. Day.

The Obamedia have no shame.

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Update: CNN has closed its comment section.

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More: Gateway Pundit has video of Col. Day’s rejoinder to Wesley Clark.

And: A new logo for CNN.

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Comments

  1. #1
    On July 7th, 2008 at 4:28 am, AlohaGuy said:

    The “most highly decorated soldier” link isn’t working for me. On the other hand, Wow!

    Thank you for this story.

  2. #2
    On July 7th, 2008 at 4:33 am, AlohaGuy said:

    CNN has - surprise - closed their comments. The Cowardly News Network doesn’t want to hear from anyone who isn’t drinking the kool-aid. Actually, after a few hundred comments or whatever it is, they probably just assumed all of their viewers had been heard from and then some.

  3. #3
    On July 7th, 2008 at 4:37 am, AlohaGuy said:

    OK, one more comment - a common thread over there is that being a POW isn’t “Executive Experience” (despite everything McCain has done.) If they really cared about Executive Experience, shouldn’t Michelle Obama be running instead of Rookie Barack? Just asking, he’ll probably end up President. Is your Swiss Bank Account in order?

  4. #4
    On July 7th, 2008 at 4:40 am, Mojamaiko said:

    This is part of the Oba-Media’s and Nut-Roots’ campaign to tear down all our national icons in order to power up the luminosity of their own ObaMessiah.

    The vituperativeness toward the military is particularly exacerbated by their awareness that they are all weenie CNNs (Clueless Numb-Nuts), whilst our warriors all still bear a pair.

  5. #5
    On July 7th, 2008 at 5:52 am, Patrick Britton said:

    This is disgusting. CNN has done a wonderful job in representing an honorable man as if he were some two-bit heretic with no career and no history worthy of mentioning. One more piece of evidence that CNN is full of a bunch of hacks with zero self respect for those that deserve honor in this country.

  6. #6
    On July 7th, 2008 at 5:52 am, bloghooligan said:

    the C could stand for a few things, classless, callous, catty, and confused come to mind.

    then there’s that other C word…

  7. #7
    On July 7th, 2008 at 5:56 am, bloghooligan said:

    one more thing…

    if the SBVT were lying, why hasn’t Kerry collected that $1million they’re offering to anyone able to prove they lied? Kerry claimed he was coming to claim that money 3 years ago and then *crickets*

  8. #8
    On July 7th, 2008 at 6:16 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    CNN owes a correction and an apology for its ignorance, disrespect, and the warped propaganda it disseminated about Col. Day.

    An apology from Constant Negative News? Don’t hold your breath.

    Update: CNN has closed its comment section.

    Wow. I tried to read some of the comments. Why are liberals too afraid to search out the facts instead of swallowing the crap CNN and the other liberal media sites are spoon feeding them? Never mind the Swift Boat vets were telling the truth about the traitor Jon Cary. Now CNN is trashing a true hero and their commenter’s are piling on.

    Do you think Obummer will come out and condemn this? Somehow, I doubt it.

  9. #9
    On July 7th, 2008 at 6:34 am, Blind_Mule said:

    Uh Oh, Wah, wah, wah, man the situation room.

    Wow. I tried to read some of the comments. Why are liberals too afraid to search out the facts instead of swallowing the crap CNN and the other liberal media sites are spoon feeding them?

    Simple, only sheeple watch CNN.

  10. #10
    On July 7th, 2008 at 6:45 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Morning BM.

    It was rhetorical! But you knew that didn’t you? Sheeple is right though. I work in a bastion of liberals here and Gov. Crist signed a bill protecting the rights of gun owners from illegal searches. CNN spun it as, gun owners can now take guns to work in their cars. Not a single person read the bill just swallowed the CNN carp. Thanks CNN.

  11. #11
    On July 7th, 2008 at 6:46 am, zorro said:

    CNN is a disgrace.

    I too had the pleasure of meeting (casually) Col. Day. I was introduced by a mutual friend while at the Bangkok House in Ft. Walton. A finer man you will never meet. May God continue to Bless him and all our fighting men and women.

  12. #12
    On July 7th, 2008 at 6:48 am, Blind_Mule said:

    That is funny, when I wrote that I said to myself, “self that was a rhetorical question” LOL :lol:

  13. #13
    On July 7th, 2008 at 6:48 am, Blind_Mule said:

    Oh an Good Morning to you to.

  14. #14
    On July 7th, 2008 at 7:05 am, Tennessee Dave said:

    This is a tremendous disservice to Col Day. Of course, if CNN had been around for the Civil War they probably would have referred to Lincoln as “the cause of the draft riots” and “the oppressor of Southern rights.”

  15. #15
    On July 7th, 2008 at 7:38 am, ACHefty said:

    Well, what do you expect from the network founded by Ted “Captain Planet” Turner? He has nothing but disdain for all things military, conservative, and religious. He is more interested in saving “the planet” than its people.

    And his networks show it day by day.

  16. #16
    On July 7th, 2008 at 7:50 am, iamsaved said:

    CNN - The former Clinton News Network turned Clueless. I’m surprised they didn’t change their name to ONN.

    There were scores of honorably discharged veterans with first hand information diputing the claims of John Kerry during the 2006 election. Yet the media would have you believe they were all liars and John Kerry was the one telling the truth.

    Now the liberals are trying to turn the term Swiftboating into a negative term. Despite CNN’s attempt to smear Col. Bud Day by calling him a Swiftboater, if I were the Colonel, I’d consider it an honor.

    McCain is just as guilty as the media by calling the Swiftboaters dishonorable and Kerry an honest to goodness hero.

    Who does one believe, the many eye-witnesses or the lone traitor who turned on his fellow veterans for political expediency?

  17. #17
    On July 7th, 2008 at 7:58 am, willie peter said:

    Oh, I don’t believe CNN was clueless.

    They know about Bud Day and his Meritorius service. It just doen’t fit their agenda.

    The good news is that as much as the Main Stream Media and their Liberal supporters hate the U.S. Military, the vast majority of the Military, including Veterans, detest them more.

    That may turnout to be quite useful.

  18. #18
    On July 7th, 2008 at 8:01 am, Jon Brodin said:

    Prior to the Democratic primaries, I referred to CNN alternately as the Clinton News Network or Communist News Network. Although much friendlier to her primary campaign than other “news” networks (read MSNBC), CNN eventually dumped Clinton for the “messiah”.

    This article was truly heinous and clearly demonstrated the shame of the “drive-by media”. It appears that less time is spent in research than the time that it takes a talking head to read it off the teleprompter.

    Equally appalling were the comments left by the “sheeple” (h/t: Blind_Mule). They all seem content to believe everything that they read without regarding the source. Have our schools really gotten this bad that critical, independent thought has become a thing of the past?

  19. #19
    On July 7th, 2008 at 8:23 am, irving said:

    It’s entirely possible that the folks at CNN are unaware of Colonel Day’s heroic history. It’s not like it’s uncommon for mainstreams journalist types to run with the first thing that comes into their heads without even a simple Google search to check facts.

  20. #20
    On July 7th, 2008 at 8:41 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    CNN along with all the Leftist just have to denigrate all things good and decent.They lie about Col. George Everett “Bud” Day, they lie about the Swift Boaters for Truth, they lie about our military people today.
    I had to give up on Big Media in 1968 when “Uncle” Walter Cronkite called the hippies ‘Our Children’.

    When you have United States Senators referring to our military people as Nazis you just know you have to hate all things Left. So I guess they kept the name Clinton News Network in case Miss Hillary won. We’ll have to wait until November to see if they change it to the Obama News Network or perhaps the Obama Mama News.

    Juan Hernandez will be giving Senator McCain’s position on the situation later this morning.

  21. #21
    On July 7th, 2008 at 8:46 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Day never commented on Jon Cary’s deceitful over-promotion of his Viet Nam exploits. His role in the SBVT ad’s was to comment on Cary’s shameful behavior aiding and abetting the enemy after he returned to the US.

  22. #22
    On July 7th, 2008 at 8:49 am, Dimsdale said:

    On July 7th, 2008 at 5:56 am, bloghooligan said:

    one more thing…

    if the SBVT were lying, why hasn’t Kerry collected that $1million they’re offering to anyone able to prove they lied? Kerry claimed he was coming to claim that money 3 years ago and then *crickets*

    Assuming that he was telling the truth, and the Swifties were lying, all he had to do was release his full, unexpurgated military and medical record and take their money and make them laughingstocks.

    He never did. Sure, he release some selected parts to reporters at the Boston Globe (who had to pry their lips from his hindquarters in order to read what little he released), but never what he promised on Russert’s Meet the Press: the full release of the records.

    Occam’s Razor tells us that is because his records reveal him to be the liar and coward that the Swifties said he was.

    He will have to live with that (and his harridan wife). He has no shame, so it should not be a problem for him.

    Thank God he has an opponent in his upcoming election.

  23. #23
    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:05 am, ajmontana said:

    Sometimes you read stories that if you were to comment you would surely get banned aor a stern warning. I value my privilage to be a part of Michelles site and will refrain on this one.
    question for any docs that may be online this a.m. “is it bad for you if steam is coming out your ears?”

  24. #24
    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:06 am, Wade said:

    Why are liberals too afraid to search out the facts

    Because in the liberal world, facts do not matter, only feelings.

  25. #25
    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:06 am, Die Hippie, Die said:

    On July 7th, 2008 at 8:46 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:
    Day never commented on Jon Cary’s deceitful over-promotion of his Viet Nam exploits. His role in the SBVT ad’s was to comment on Cary’s shameful behavior aiding and abetting the enemy after he returned to the US.

    That doesn’t matter to the left. The goal is to repeat the lie so many times that it rises to the top of a Google search. That’s when the lie becomes truth.

  26. #26
    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:09 am, almeehan said:

    In reading the CNN comments, one of their mind-numb listeners states, “finally the truth comes out…”
    So America, listen up. We all now know CNN is our truth source! /s Sadly with CNN in airports, restaurants, hotels, hospitals, and seemingly everywhere else, busy people on the go with no incentive to research assume CNN is their source of truth. Think how many millions will base their decisions, affecting life and death on CNN, NYT and many other MSM sources! We must actively go after these 5th column enemies.

  27. #27
    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:13 am, DesertLover said:

    DHD …

    the continually repeated leftist lies don’t become “truth” …

    they become “concensus” … :lol:

  28. #28
    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:17 am, Marshall Russ said:

    Here’s another American hero that could not be as qualified as Obambi to be POTUS.

  29. #29
    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:23 am, sonofdy said:

    The thingie on the blue ribbon arround his neck should settle most of these arguments. I bet most of the leftist liars don’t even know what it is. (MOH)

  30. #30
    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:25 am, mchristian said:

    CNN is a network with an agenda. Telling the whole truth about Col. Day does not fit the agenda. The comments made about Sen. McCain and Col. Day are disgraceful, but not surprising.

  31. #31
    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:50 am, Send_Me said:

    I seem to recall the Communist News Network showing a segment in 2005 while I was in Baghdad, Iraq, explaining how to create an EFP (a form of IED), the materials used, and an assessment of the damage it causes to American vehicles. At the time, such things were still classified. Since then, I have had no faith in the patriotism nor judgment of CNN. Not all news is worthy of print, unless of course you are rooting for the enemy.
    This piece here by the Communist News Network certainly falls in line with Lenin’s 1919 statement about the media: “The cinema must and shall become the foremost cultural weapon of the proletariat.”
    I’m now just waiting for the Obama version of Triumph Des Willens. It’s the only thing missing from his cult of personality. “Si se puede” is pretty close to “Triumph of the Will” in terms of it’s ability to strike up emotional fervor through use of victimization, the telling and retelling of lies meant to convince the weak-minded, the quasi-religiousness of its leader, use of cultist romanticism, and the blame of others for their problems (the rich, the Man, Big Business, etc.) The main difference is that Obama’s message doesn’t have the nationalistic message that “Triumph of the Will” has. Beyond that, they are remarkably similar in their effects. Any doubts on this, just read the comments on the CNN page Michelle posted. Pretty scary, and telling, if you ask me.

  32. #32
    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:53 am, henryinga said:

    I haven’t watched CNN since 1999 when I got a dish and didn’t have to watch them anymore with a barf bag in my lap. I agree that they’ll never apologize to Col. Day.

  33. #33
    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:55 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    Barry Obama the media phenomena.

  34. #34
    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:57 am, sonofdy said:

    #30 I am glad to see I am not the only one who sees the use of nazi poltical tactics but the obama campaign. (just tactics not political ideas) I have noticed the same types of propoganda etc for some time now. The “savior” of the country. “saving” the country from that group “scapegoat”. (In this case it is neo-cons). I am not saying I see camps in the immediate future but I see the same type tactics.

  35. #35
    On July 7th, 2008 at 10:00 am, MtsEdge said:

    I am grateful for heroes like Col. Day, and the honor and bravery and self-sacrifice that he displayed in the face of the greatest adversity. It is his experience, and that of so many others like him, that has laid the groundwork for our next generation of soldiers, and continued to ensure the safety and freedom of many. May God bless this man.

  36. #36
    On July 7th, 2008 at 10:01 am, Barry F. said:

    I might not have been able to leave a comment, since they had closed that section of the blog but that piece by Rebecca Sinderbrand pi$$ed me off so bad that I sent my feedback to CNN.

    Rebecca Sinderbrand’s piece, “McCain Truth Squad defender was Swift Boat Vet member”, on Col. George Everett “Bud” Day, the nation’s most highly decorated soldier, ranks with one of the worst hit pieces I have seen in quite some time.

    Please try doing a little research, at the least, before denigrating a true hero. Even Wikipedia would have given more insight that you seem to have shown in this hit piece of a true American hero.

    CNN needs to drop the propaganda. Rebecca Sinderbrand’s piece is abhorrent treatment of a genuine American war hero. At the very least, she should print a public apology to Col. Day and set the record straight on this great American, instead of injecting her obvious political leanings into her supposed reporting.

    I may not care for John McCain myself. But, just because the most highly decorated soldier in our great nation, since Gen. Douglas MacArthur, does, is not reason to write abhorrently ignorant pieces against him. Either her piece was borne out of ignorance or she had an obvious agenda and axe to grind in denigrating Col. Day. This is a pathetic attempt at journalism by CNN.

  37. #37
    On July 7th, 2008 at 10:05 am, Cosmo said:

    Shocker: comments closed for the CNN article. By the way, there ought to be a “queasy stomach” warning on that site. I almost lost my breakfast (from yesterday–I haven’t eaten yet this morning) after reading some of the tripe in the comments section.

    Good grief, Charlie Brown.

  38. #38
    On July 7th, 2008 at 10:11 am, mymanpotsandpans said:

    Great work, Michelle. I’m glad to see CNN is learning it has to answer for what it does.

    O/T: Practically the only thing I don’t like about this site is the constant linking of Protein Wisdom’s rebuttals to Andrew Sullivan. It’s starting to look like stalking an ex-girlfriend. If I cared what he thought, I’d troll.

  39. #39
    On July 7th, 2008 at 10:16 am, alaskangrizzly said:

    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:53 am, henryinga said:
    I haven’t watched CNN since 1999 when I got a dish and didn’t have to watch them anymore with a barf bag in my lap. I agree that they’ll never apologize to Col. Day.

    I haven’t watched CNN from a similar time frame when I was in the military. It became quite clear that their reporting was only an agenda that used lies, distortion, and spin to motivate the sheeple. And judging by the comments on that CNN blog there are a whole lot of sheeple out there.

  40. #40
    On July 7th, 2008 at 10:25 am, Marc said:

    Nothing should surprise anybody when it comes to CNN. This is Christine Amanpour’s network after all. Amanpour is the correspondent who did the infamous “God’s Holy Warriors” series. Amanpour was determined to show that Jews and Christians were more dangerous extremists than any Muslim extremists and she lumped Baptist preachers with Osama Ben Laden. She also used a film of a speech from before Reagan was president and tried to pass it off as something Reagan said as president. She also started yelling and screaming uncontrollably at Shimon Peres. She wanted Peres to admit that Israel regularly violates “international law” and when Peres would not do it, Amanpour started reading from a comment from an aged left wing lawyer and then she started yelling at Peres “Your words”. Amanpour was so filled with hatred at Peres that her eyes were bulging and voice shreiking when she started to yell at him. No surprise here.

  41. #41
    On July 7th, 2008 at 10:34 am, Send_Me said:

    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:57 am, sonofdy said:

    Thanks for clearing up one thing: I’m not saying Obama is going to open up any work camps during his presidency.
    I honestly do not know Obama’s plan to reach his “Hope and Change” end state of a perfect society, but I do know how others with similar ideologies have tried, which is what scares me.
    What happens when 51% of Americans start advocating for socialism, but the other 49% still want a Democratic Republic and to keep their “certain inalienable rights”? How does Obama, or any of these leftists, plan on overcoming this obvious problem? In the past, socialist governments have done this by threat of and use of force, after all other legal means of resistance have been removed, which was accomplished under the guise of what is best for the “greater good.”
    The United States is not immune to an insurgency, no matter how strong we think we are. It’s happening now, and has been happening since 1963 or so. We’re just now seeing the fruits of their labor over the past 45 years. They’ll use legitimate processes for illegitimate gain. They’ll use the law and legislative process to achieve their goals, up until the point they have enough control to come out of the shadows, out into the open using fear as their weapon.
    We’ve seen this already, each year with more and more court cases, argued from different angles, trying to whittle away any legal defense for religious expression, property rights (Kelo?), gun ownership (handgun bans?), free speech (campaign finance?), and freedom from public education indoctrination (CA?). The list goes on. We see how the legislature is obviously and blatantly opposing what is good for America (energy? Iraq?). We see leftists pretty much buying their way into State Legislatures because no one really pays attention to them nowadays, yet where do we think State power resides, not to mention the votes needed if we ever seek to ratify a Federal Constitutional Amendment? Some may think I’m paranoid, but if you study insurgencies, as I have and do, then you’ll pick up on these things, see the patterns, and see what is to come unless more action is taken to thwart it.

  42. #42
    On July 7th, 2008 at 10:36 am, pueblo1032 said:

    Anyone still watch CNN??? You would get more fact watching the “idiots” on COMEDY CENTRAL!!! A GREAT MAN like COL DAY will always be a GREAT MAN… Nothing CNN can do or say to change that fact… By the way, your new CNN logo design, WAY TO RED WHITE AND BLUE for my taste!!!

  43. #43
    On July 7th, 2008 at 10:38 am, BrianNY said:

    Looks like CNN, Rebecca Sinderbrand and most of their readers have nowhere near the executive experience to comment on the caliber of an American Spartan like Colonel George Day.

    I would advise CNN to stick to stories that they are more comfortable with: like election year-long exposes on “Being Black in America” by a half black reporterette from Harvard U, and in-depth interviews with Kathy Griffen.

  44. #44
    On July 7th, 2008 at 10:39 am, Boomer said:

    Col Day’s story was one of the ones I still remember from my time at Survival School in 1979. His incredible story of escape, evasion, survival, and recapture were used as an object lesson of how you had to set your mind in a combat survival situation and keep trying no matter how much it hurt to go on to try to make it to friendly forces. Once again the Communist News Network strikes with a classless hit piece on a true American hero.

  45. #45
    On July 7th, 2008 at 10:40 am, GraniteMan said:

    The campaign of lies by the left about Swift Boat vets must be exposed. I am so humbled by the courage and integrity of Col. Day, McCain and so many others that have defended this great nation that my heart breaks that some cannot see their heroism. It is one thing to be politically oriented, it is another to be crazy or traitorous.

  46. #46
    On July 7th, 2008 at 10:58 am, swmbo said:

    Mr Swmbo (a Viet Nam Veteran) was kicked back in his recliner one day watching TV when a show about Medal of Honor winners came on. His feet hit the floor and he stood thru the entire show. His explanation (to the shocked look on my face) was that ‘Men of honor should always be shown the respect that is due them.’

  47. #47
    On July 7th, 2008 at 11:01 am, pookysgirl said:

    When the airport in Sioux City, the nearest one to my hometown, was renamed Col. Bud Day Field, my eyes were opened to this man’s heroic actions. He truly does inspire awe and admiration.

    Some people, especially in the media, can’t handle a real hero when they see one. This is evidenced not just in their treatment of McCain, but in the way they view Gen. Petraeus.

    Also, as one who watched Rathergate unfold in real-time, I’m getting really sick of seeing the Swift Boat Vets impugned.

  48. #48
    On July 7th, 2008 at 11:09 am, shanimal said:

    Media bias is out of control and one sided. Boston Globe has a ‘campaign notebook’ section that is always biased for Obama and against McCain. Yesterday they had a report on the latest flip flop on Iraq, defending Obama. They had propoganda from Obama spokepeople, and ended the article with a real eye opener. Something along these lines:

    “Obama has always mentioned that the Iraq withdrawal will require refinements based on the commanders”

    I’m thinking, really? Even when he was 5 years old he was mentioning this? This was supposed to be a news report, not a opinion piece. ANd if you are going to make a statement like that, should you support it with exact quotes with dates?

  49. #49
    On July 7th, 2008 at 11:50 am, Paul-Cincy said:

    To refight the “swift boat” issue again, as the left has made “swift boating” to mean “smear”, there’s nothing wrong with those from a prez candidate’s past, who knew him, worked with him, or worked in his same job, giving their opinions.

    As far as Kerry’s 1971 testimony before Congress, oh my gosh. I’m glad SOMEONE pushed that issue.

    Kerry, 1971:
    “They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks”

    As I recall his 1971 testimony on tape, when a congressman asked him whether he had a purple heart, he said yes, and immediately volunteered “with 2 oak leaf clusters”, meaning 3 total.

    “While in Vietnam (from December ‘68 to April ‘69), Kerry commanded a river patrol boat in the Mekong Delta. He was wounded three times and won a Silver and Bronze star for his combat activities. Because of his wounds, he requested and received three Purple Heart medals and invoked Navy rule 1300.39 to get sent home early. The 1300.39 rule stated that an officer receiving two wounds that required hospitalization, or three wounds of any severity, could request a reassignment”

    The Swifties had additional complaints about Kerry not related to medals.

    I’d love to hear those who served with McCain, whatever they have to say. That’s fair, isn’t it? Did he request special treatment? Did he denigrate his fellow servicemen? Let’s hear all of it, from those who served with him.

    By the way, I don’t recall anyone diminishing the value of Kerry’s service of piloting a swift boat, as Clark did of McCain’s “riding” in a fighter plane.

  50. #50
    On July 7th, 2008 at 12:10 pm, John Ansell said:

    Is CNN Still on T.V.?

  51. #51
    On July 7th, 2008 at 12:13 pm, josetheguerilla said:

    My BP is went to 220/110 after reading this story. I don’t want to sound like the unhindged,tinhat,moonbat people, so I will hold my true comment on CNN and their left wing agenda.

  52. #52
    On July 7th, 2008 at 12:14 pm, MTNEER said:

    Anyone think the anti- Swift Boat Vets Bill O’reilly will comment on this?

  53. #53
    On July 7th, 2008 at 12:19 pm, Boomer said:

    John Ansell #49, CNN is not on our TV we have blocked it along with most other cable news networks (except for Fox News which I can barely stand to watch any more) from our favorites list which continues to shrink on a daily basis.

  54. #54
    On July 7th, 2008 at 12:22 pm, J S Ragman said:

    The “C” in CNN stands for clueless

    That’s not the “C-word” I was thinking about, but as retired Navy, I have a more colorful vocabulary.

  55. #55
    On July 7th, 2008 at 12:40 pm, lgm said:

    The swiftboat operation against Kerry was a new low in American policics. The swiftboaters proved that with enough money and Fox News on your side, you could get away with saying anything and enough people would believe it to sway an election.

    Being a decorated vet doesn’t stop the other side from arguing with you — proven by Kerry and McCain. Get over it and stick to the issues.

    In this case, the issue is that McCain’s policies are dangerously wrong despite the fact that he is a war hero.

  56. #56
    On July 7th, 2008 at 12:50 pm, Regulus said:

    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:06 am, Wade said:

    Why are liberals too afraid to search out the facts

    Because in the liberal world, facts do not matter, only feelings….

    True enough, but it goes deeper — down to the core of the liberal psyche.

    Remember the trailers to the movie, “Total Recall”? One of them began, “What if you woke up one morning and discovered that your whole life was a lie?”

    Liberals and leftists wake up to that question every day; because they can never answer it, it comes back every morning.

    To be of a lib/lefty persuasion, you must start with a basic denial of human nature; when the real world refuses to share in that self-deception, you have to retreat to a deceit-based alternative reality of psychological avoidance mechanisms.

    One of my moonbat sisters is a classic case in point: at one time in her life she let her “alternative lifestyle” lead her to the brink of self-destruction, which finally provoked the rest of the family to undertake an intervention that included sending her to a mental health counselor.

    She went to see the counselor one time, then stopped. When I asked her why she quit, she replied: “But what if I find out that I really AM a bad person?”

    Q.E.D. Rather than face her demons, she chose to go on pretending that her life could go on being like an old Chanel No. 5 perfume commercial: “Live the Fantasy.”

    This is what it means to be a liberal. If for purely tactical reasons you back a phony “war hero” in 2004 — and he gets his bluff called by a collection of the real thing — then rather than question your beliefs about the fraud it’s easier to dismiss the critics and their motives.

    When you back a phony “Messiah” in 2008 against a man who doesn’t have to make-believe about his political qualifications or his service to his country, then instead of questioning your faith you smear that man, his service, and those who support him.

    Psychological avoidance. Without that essential crutch, liberals and leftists would probably undergo a psychic implosion of such severity that permanent catatonia would likely result.

    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:25 am, mchristian said:

    CNN is a network with an agenda. Telling the whole truth about Col. Day does not fit the agenda. The comments made about Sen. McCain and Col. Day are disgraceful, but not surprising.

    In the Olden Days of Yore — a quarter-century ago when I was a journalism major in college — our J-school professors warned us of the developing slippery slope of “Agenda Journalism.” Most of those professors are either retired or dead by now — and they clearly lost that battle.

    Today, it seems that most “journalism” graduates know little more than how to sing “Narrative, narrative, uber alles…” what a shame for a once respectable profession that traded in its heritage as the Fourth Estate so they could be players instead.

    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:13 am, DesertLover said:

    DHD …

    the continually repeated leftist lies don’t become “truth” …

    they become “concensus” …

    “Consensus” is the word they use when they’re trying to confuse science with dogma. “Common knowledge” is the term they use to bootstrap Goebbels-style “Big Lie” repetition into “fact.”

  57. #57
    On July 7th, 2008 at 12:59 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On July 7th, 2008 at 12:40 pm, lgm said:
    The swiftboat operation against Kerry was a new low in American policics.

    Yep, what Jon Cary was trying to do was a new low in American politics and, thank GOD, some brave men came against him. The man is a traitor and lied. Cary will never release his records as the truth is in them and will exonerate the SBV’s (as if they need to be).

  58. #58
    On July 7th, 2008 at 1:02 pm, swmbo said:

    I disagree LGM, when a lie is too big to stand, it is good to expose it. John Kerry was shaming all true veteran heros by claiming to be one of them. One has to earn that title, not just claim it.

  59. #59
    On July 7th, 2008 at 1:18 pm, Marc said:

    To add to what Shaninal has to say about the Boston Globe, the Globe is even worse than that. A few years ago, the Globe ran a photo of a Palestinian suicide bomber who was caught trying to board a bus filled with kids. The bus driver forced him out of the car and police attached the terrorist to a robot and dragged him away from the bus. The use of the robotic arm not only saved the children on the bus but saved the terrorist’s life also. So how did the Globe write up the story? Incredibly, the Globe had a huge caption which read: “Israeli soldiers drag Palestinian man through the street”. This was about the same time as the James Byrd episode in Texas and the Globe was trying to say that this was the Israeli version of the James Byrd indident. The Globe was forced to print a retraction after hundreds of people called to correct. Being that it was the Boston Globe, the correction was buried deep in the bowels of the newspaper where nobody would see it. Then when criticized, the Globe could claim that it “promptly corrected” the error. The Globe, to this day, never apologized to its readers for what it did.

  60. #60
    On July 7th, 2008 at 1:20 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    The swiftboaters proved that with enough money and Fox News on your side, you could get away with saying anything and enough people would believe it to sway an election.

    OK, what did they say that was incorrect?

  61. #61
    On July 7th, 2008 at 1:24 pm, GladzKravtz said:

    Re: CNN,MSNBC and the Drive-Bys,
    I wish I had kept the name of the person who said the following “Truth doesn’t change people, it’s repetition that changes people.”
    And don’t we know it…

  62. #62
    On July 7th, 2008 at 1:30 pm, Jerry said:

    To disparage Col. Bud Day! The left has reached a new low. They might as well burn the capital as to assail this mans character. One silver lining, anyone witnessing this attack and still voting for the O, are not people I would want to associate with. Hopefully people will see this and wake up.

  63. #63
    On July 7th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, Jerry said:

    Great Post Regulus, I would like to send that to some buddies of mine in the media. Is that ok with you?

  64. #64
    On July 7th, 2008 at 1:36 pm, BrianNY said:

    #54 lgm said:

    The swiftboat operation against Kerry was a new low in American policics…saying anything and enough people would believe it to sway an election.

    Stop crying into your soup. John Kerry made a very risky bet when he took to the US Senate to lie about his fellow troops’ character while they were still in the field.

    It naturally won him a senate seat in MA. It ended up losing him a chance for the US Presidency. Maybe some good will come out of his experience and John Kerry will learn to be more of an American and less of a pompous, international gasbag. But judging him by his recent “joke” about our brave troops in Iraq, I seriously doubt it. The guy just can’t help being a self-centered, angry pantload.

  65. #65
    On July 7th, 2008 at 1:52 pm, abstractmind said:

    On July 7th, 2008 at 12:40 pm, lgm said:
    The swiftboat operation against Kerry was a new low in American policics. The swiftboaters proved that with enough money and Fox News on your side, you could get away with saying anything and enough people would believe it to sway an election.

    Being a decorated vet doesn’t stop the other side from arguing with you — proven by Kerry and McCain. Get over it and stick to the issues.

    In this case, the issue is that McCain’s policies are dangerously wrong despite the fact that he is a war hero.

    i have to agree with soap…kerry is a liar and a fraud in this respect.

    But in response to your last sentence…please explain how McCain’s proposals are as dangerous, or more so, as the very deadly ones that D’obama offers?

  66. #66
    On July 7th, 2008 at 1:54 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On July 7th, 2008 at 12:40 pm, lgm said:
    The swiftboat operation against Kerry was a new low in American policics.

    Wrong again you little jerk. The SwiftBoaters were accurate and honest, something you might try-once. John Kerry was a flake and a liar, denigrated the several millions of us who served and the Swiftboaters drew attention to it. Those men were there and served with John Kerry, were you? Come on lgm, just what did you do during the Viet Nam war?

    Now you little jerk, tell us about his TWO TOURS. Play games with that one if you will, but tell us. We wait with baited breath. Then tell us about the medals he through over the White House Fence but still has.

  67. #67
    On July 7th, 2008 at 2:04 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On July 7th, 2008 at 1:54 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    SwiftBoaters were accurate and honest

    Accurate and honest?

  68. #68
    On July 7th, 2008 at 2:17 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    Thanks TheOtherSide! Thanks lgm. Your position is ah…unique. :wink:

  69. #69
    On July 7th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    funding came mainly from a Houston home builder

    That’s it, I have seen the light! A Houston home builder put up money, that’s proof the Swift Boat Vets were lying.

    BTW, I misssed my copy of Kerry’s complete service record he provided as promised. Oh, that’s right, he’s a liar.

  70. #70
    On July 7th, 2008 at 3:14 pm, Bill Grant said:

    Why would Bud Day, “the nation’s most highly decorated soldier Airman since General Douglas MacArthur” suppors a presidential candidate that is routinely pilloried here… Humm

    When it comes to choosing a president, the American people want to know more about a candidate than policy positions. They want to know about character, the values ingrained in his heart. For Mr. McCain, that means they will want to know more about him personally than he has been willing to reveal.

    Mr. Day relayed to me one of the stories Americans should hear. It involves what happened to him after escaping from a North Vietnamese prison during the war. When he was recaptured, a Vietnamese captor broke his arm and said, “I told you I would make you a cripple.”

    The break was designed to shatter Mr. Day’s will. He had survived in prison on the hope that one day he would return to the United States and be able to fly again. To kill that hope, the Vietnamese left part of a bone sticking out of his arm, and put him in a misshapen cast. This was done so that the arm would heal at “a goofy angle,” as Mr. Day explained. Had it done so, he never would have flown again.

    But it didn’t heal that way because of John McCain. Risking severe punishment, Messrs. McCain and Day collected pieces of bamboo in the prison courtyard to use as a splint.

    Mr. McCain put Mr. Day on the floor of their cell and, using his foot, jerked the broken bone into place. Then, using strips from the bandage on his own wounded leg and the bamboo, he put Mr. Day’s splint in place.

    Former POW Earnest Brace describes conversations with John McCain through the walls of a Hanoi prison.

    Years later, Air Force surgeons examined Mr. Day and complimented the treatment he’d gotten from his captors. Mr. Day corrected them. It was Dr. McCain who deserved the credit. Mr. Day went on to fly again.

    Another story I heard over dinner with the Days involved Mr. McCain serving as one of the three chaplains for his fellow prisoners. At one point, after being shuttled among different prisons, Mr. Day had found himself as the most senior officer at the Hanoi Hilton. So he tapped Mr. McCain to help administer religious services to the other prisoners.

    Today, Mr. Day, a very active 83, still vividly recalls Mr. McCain’s sermons. “He remembered the Episcopal liturgy,” Mr. Day says, “and sounded like a bona fide preacher.” One of Mr. McCain’s first sermons took as its text Luke 20:25 and Matthew 22:21, “render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and unto God what is God’s.” Mr. McCain said he and his fellow prisoners shouldn’t ask God to free them, but to help them become the best people they could be while serving as POWs. It was Caesar who put them in prison and Caesar who would get them out. Their task was to act with honor.

    Another McCain story, somewhat better known, is about the Vietnamese practice of torturing him by tying his head between his ankles with his arms behind him, and then leaving him for hours. The torture so badly busted up his shoulders that to this day Mr. McCain can’t raise his arms over his head.

    One night, a Vietnamese guard loosened his bonds, returning at the end of his watch to tighten them again so no one would notice. Shortly after, on Christmas Day, the same guard stood beside Mr. McCain in the prison yard and drew a cross in the sand before erasing it. Mr. McCain later said that when he returned to Vietnam for the first time after the war, the only person he really wanted to meet was that guard.

    Mr. Day recalls with pride Mr. McCain stubbornly refusing to accept special treatment or curry favor to be released early, even when gravely ill. Mr. McCain knew the Vietnamese wanted the propaganda victory of the son and grandson of Navy admirals accepting special treatment. “He wasn’t corruptible then,” Mr. Day says, “and he’s not corruptible today.”

  71. #71
    On July 7th, 2008 at 3:22 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Again, Day’s contribution to the Swifties was merely to comment on Kerry’s treason after Viet Nam, aiding an abetting the communists.

    In a just world, Kerry would be dead for almost 35 years, after having been shot on orders of a general court martial.

  72. #72
    On July 7th, 2008 at 3:26 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Ann Coulter suggested this just this weekend.

    http://getdrunkandvote4mccain.com/

  73. #73
    On July 7th, 2008 at 4:34 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    funding came mainly from a Houston home builder

    and $200 from me.
    And yes

    Accurate and honest?

    Yes certainly more Honest than the Annenberg Political Fact Checker.
    I have been honored to meet two of the Swift Boaters. I tend to believe them over Kerry any day.

    When I got my come home Purple Heart it was not blow back from my own grenade. Every man in the infantry took worse hits than Kerry w/o getting a Purple Heart. He was and is a liar and slacker. If Kerry cut off any heads I do not know, the Annenberg Political Fact Checker didn’t say, but we didn’t.

  74. #74
    On July 7th, 2008 at 4:41 pm, Bill Grant said:

    He is Col. George Everett “Bud” Day, the nation’s most highly decorated soldier since General Douglas MacArthur. It was a thrill to meet this genuine American hero in person.

    I suspect that if Bud Day gets any idea of the lengths you have gone to to delegitimize the candidacy of another “genuine American hero” there won’t be any more photo-ops.

  75. #75
    On July 7th, 2008 at 5:24 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On July 7th, 2008 at 4:34 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Yes certainly more Honest than the Annenberg Political Fact Checker.

    I guess if you choose to ignore the facts, then you can believe what you want (please see post #56 and substitute ArizonaNeanderthal for liberals).

    On July 7th, 2008 at 4:41 pm, Bill Grant said:
    I suspect that if Bud Day gets any idea of the lengths you have gone to to delegitimize the candidacy of another “genuine American hero” there won’t be any more photo-ops.

    Yes Bill, it is also ironic that those outraged in this thread at CNN’s lack of acknowledgment of Day’s service are also the one’s questioning Kerry’s honesty without any acknowledgement of his service.

  76. #76
    On July 7th, 2008 at 5:33 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Yes Bill, it is also ironic that those outraged in this thread at CNN’s lack of acknowledgment of Day’s service are also the one’s questioning Kerry’s honesty without any acknowledgement of his service.

    I salute John Kerry for volunteering for service. I am not questioning his honesty I am flat out calling him a liar.

    I guess if you choose to ignore the facts, then you can believe what you want

    If the shoe fits…

  77. #77
    On July 7th, 2008 at 5:44 pm, Bill Grant said:

    “Yes Bill, it is also ironic that those outraged in this thread at CNN’s lack of acknowledgment of Day’s service are also the one’s questioning Kerry’s honesty without any acknowledgement[sic] of his service.”

    Kerry may have served honorably, I wasn’t there but he showed up and that puts him ahead of most. What I do know is that Bud Day, James Stockdale and John McCain were were being tortured to give false testimony about American war crimes in Vietnam while John Kerry was giving false testimony about American war crimes to the US congress to further his political career. Kind of negates the whole prior service thing in my eyes.

  78. #78
    On July 7th, 2008 at 5:49 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    TOS trolled:

    Yes Bill, it is also ironic that those outraged in this thread at CNN’s lack of acknowledgment of Day’s service are also the one’s questioning Kerry’s honesty without any acknowledgement of his service.

    AlohaGuy said:

    I salute John Kerry for volunteering for service. I am not questioning his honesty I am flat out calling him a liar.

    Well said AlohaGuy. Why don’t you push your beloved Kerry there TOS to publish his full military records and disprove any of the claims (truths) told about him by the vets? Could it be that he is a liar?

    But nice try at some moral equivalence when there is none. Col. Day served this country with great honor and the highest of integrity and has a full disclosure of his military records and history. The same cannot be said of Kerry no matter how much you want to hold your fingers in your ears and scream lalalalala over an over again.

    /still waiting on those Kerry records to disprove anything the swiftboat vets said.

  79. #79
    On July 7th, 2008 at 6:29 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    An important part of this CNN story is that the commenters on its website are probably eligible to vote.

    Since the word “swiftboat” (and its variants) likes to get thrown around — usually accompanied by the word “horrible” or some other negative connotations — can we say that the MSM is “kerrying” our armed forces?

    Someone you perceive as a betrayer, or someone who may have saved your arm — who would you support?

  80. #80
    On July 7th, 2008 at 7:24 pm, basuraboi3 said:

    Frankly, I didn’t find the story about Col. “Bud” Day incendiary at all. I don’t think the story mentioned Colonel Day’s heroic service for our county because that wasn’t what made his inclusion in McCain’s Truth Squad so interesting.

    I find the political implications of a man who once included himself among the notable Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which criticized the war record of a veteran Democratic presidential candidate, now counts himself among John McCain’s Truth Squad, a group designed to fight back criticisms of a veteran Republican candidate’s war record.

    That’s very interesting, politically, and I think it belongs on CNN’s Political Ticker, or whatever they call it.

    I do applaud Michelle’s post for bringing to light Day’s decorated past, as it explains why this man is one to be listed to. A worthy story in and of itself.

    But are political questions raised by such a role reversal? You betcha.

  81. #81
    On July 7th, 2008 at 7:27 pm, allrsn said:

    I am not convinced that cnn was clueless in this false news piece. They may well know exactly who Col. Day is and his background.

    Remember cnn, msnbc, and all the msm. They avoid truth because truth does not serve their purpose: the promotion of socialism.

  82. #82
    On July 7th, 2008 at 7:37 pm, Chief RZ said:

    LT Clebe McClary, USMC, was at the Gilbert Peach Festival this Saturday.
    Decorated and wounded Vietnam Veteran. I have seen him speak three times. The last one at a Chief’s promotion event at Shaw AFB, 2005.

  83. #83
    On July 7th, 2008 at 7:44 pm, dakine said:

    allrsm, why would the msm want to promote socialism? Makes no sense. They report stories in the way they believe will result in the highest ratings, ad revenues and circulation numbers. Capitalism rules the day. I think basuraboi got this one right.

  84. #84
    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:30 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    They report stories in the way they believe will result in the highest ratings, ad revenues and circulation numbers.

    If that’s their intent, ratings and circulation numbers would indicate a certain ineptness…

  85. #85
    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:43 pm, allrsn said:

    On July 7th, 2008 at 7:44 pm, dakine said:

    I have not solved that puzzle yet myself, the msm loses the most under socialism, yet they do promote it.

    Could they simply be that stupid about what socialism is? I don’t know, doesn’t seem likely to me.

  86. #86
    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:47 pm, mjtyson said:

    …Bud Day, “the nation’s most highly decorated soldier Airman since General Douglas MacArthur”…

    Damn…you beat me to it.

    Since COL Hackworth died I’m not sure who the most decorated soldier is anymore. Anyone??

  87. #87
    On July 7th, 2008 at 9:57 pm, mjtyson said:

    Here’s a funny story for you:

    Friend of mine was stationed at Hurlburt Field, FL, and needed a civilian lawyer for some problems he had. He looked in the yellow pages and found a lawyer named Day. He called and made an appointment with a decidedly old-sounding gentleman.

    When my buddy arrived for his appointment he was blown away. There was memorabilia about Col Bud Day in the office. My buddy knows his history, especially AFSOC (Air Force Special Ops) history, and knew exactly who Bud Day was. But certainly this guy couldn’t be him. Surely it was a relative. Perhaps his son?

    Out of an office comes Col Day, calling my friend “Sir” and offering to get him coffee. My goodness, the man is a god in AFSOC. My friend was in shock. “No, sir, I can get my own. Can I get you a cup?”

    But Col Day shush’d him, told him to sit down (”Yes sir!”) and he’d take care of him.

    And take care of him the Colonel did. And for little cash.

    The man is an American legend and hero and deserves to be remembered as such.

    Additionally, I find it interesting that on the Colonel’s own website, he mentions that he’s “been awarded every significant decloration available from the US Air Force.” He doesn’t even bother mentioning the most important, which is NOT awarded by the Air Force!!! What a man!

  88. #88
    On July 7th, 2008 at 10:12 pm, johnsteele said:

    “The “C” in CNN stands for clueless”

    You could not be more wrong. There is nothing clueless about it, they know precisely what they are doing and why.

  89. #89
    On July 8th, 2008 at 4:42 pm, Brian72 said:

    Whatever Kerry did or did not do in country, what he chose to do upon his return is simply unforgivable. That man isn’t fit to be on any Senate committee, much less Commander in Chief, U.S. Armed Forces. If you doubt what I say, watch the video of Kerry’s testimony before the committee on which he now sits, and no doubt hopes to chair one day. That uniform he was wearing should have a big honking red star & sickle on it, because he was doing the work of all the communist propaganda ministries in the world at that time. The man has his own kiosk of honor in the war museum in Ho Chi Minh City(formerly Saigon). Check out some of the info at Winter Soldier.com to see how he trashed everyone who served in Vietnam, except for the Viet Cong and the NVA. I don’t want to hear any crap from any of you trolls about his service being honorable, because he dishonored himself and all his brothers in arms before the Senate that day, wearing the uniform of our country.

    Scumbag.

  90. #90
    On November 11th, 2008 at 6:04 pm, lottadawg said:

    In every election cycle there is always someone who stands out with the truth and some wisdom. Absolutely nothing is wrong with the SBVT. I realize CNN has a different viewpoint , however, you should question the motives of a news organization that cuts a deal with Saddam and lie to keep their office open.
    If you have been to Solid anchor at Nam Can you would know it is truly one of the biggest A holes in the world. I have no doubt when Kerry left, it was a better place.

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