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	<title>Comments on: DHS researching electric-shock bracelets to subdue airline terrorists (UPDATE: DHS denial)</title>
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		<title>By: Did I just wake up in an Orwell novel? &#171; Buttle&#8217;s World</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/09/dhs-researching-electric-shock-bracelets-to-subdue-airline-terrorists/comment-page-1/#comment-374762</link>
		<dc:creator>Did I just wake up in an Orwell novel? &#171; Buttle&#8217;s World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Malkin has a sort-of denial from the DHS. Note, especially, that last line in the post. So maybe more of my fire-spitting [...]</description>
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		<title>By: securitymom</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/09/dhs-researching-electric-shock-bracelets-to-subdue-airline-terrorists/comment-page-1/#comment-373012</link>
		<dc:creator>securitymom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To follow up on my earlier comment, I&#039;m not saying the letter is a hoax - it&#039;s a company trying to sell a product.  The letter is two years old and nothing came out of it.  I have never heard of any discussion in the past two years I&#039;ve been at TSA to use any kind of bracelet for anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To follow up on my earlier comment, I&#8217;m not saying the letter is a hoax &#8211; it&#8217;s a company trying to sell a product.  The letter is two years old and nothing came out of it.  I have never heard of any discussion in the past two years I&#8217;ve been at TSA to use any kind of bracelet for anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Lee</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/09/dhs-researching-electric-shock-bracelets-to-subdue-airline-terrorists/comment-page-1/#comment-372659</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;RabbidSquirrel said: 
On July 9th, 2008 at 7:20 pm, amerpun said:
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(-)A Mexican gang is going around killing the first driver to notify them that they’re car lights are out.
&lt;strong&gt;This one’s true…it happened to me just last week.&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wow, you&#039;re typing really well for someone that was just murdered by a gang last week..  :)

~Dan Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>RabbidSquirrel said:<br />
On July 9th, 2008 at 7:20 pm, amerpun said:<br />
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(-)A Mexican gang is going around killing the first driver to notify them that they’re car lights are out.<br />
<strong>This one’s true…it happened to me just last week.</strong></p>
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<p>Wow, you&#8217;re typing really well for someone that was just murdered by a gang last week..  <img src='http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>~Dan Lee</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Lee</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/09/dhs-researching-electric-shock-bracelets-to-subdue-airline-terrorists/comment-page-1/#comment-372654</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DHS can deny it all they want, but the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lamperdlesslethal.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lamberd Less Lethal website &lt;/a&gt;has documents right on it showing the communications between them &amp; DHS about this very device, &amp; its potential uses. They were definitely at least considering buying it.

Just scroll down to the bracelet, &amp; read the PDF documents for yourself.

~Dan Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DHS can deny it all they want, but the <a href="http://www.lamperdlesslethal.com/" rel="nofollow">Lamberd Less Lethal website </a>has documents right on it showing the communications between them &amp; DHS about this very device, &amp; its potential uses. They were definitely at least considering buying it.</p>
<p>Just scroll down to the bracelet, &amp; read the PDF documents for yourself.</p>
<p>~Dan Lee</p>
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		<title>By: 30 pcs of silver</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/09/dhs-researching-electric-shock-bracelets-to-subdue-airline-terrorists/comment-page-1/#comment-372178</link>
		<dc:creator>30 pcs of silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On July 10th, 2008 at 4:00 am, RabbidSquirrel said: 
On July 10th, 2008 at 1:12 am, Fat Jolly Penguin said:

o.O You’re dead?
Yes.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I see postings from dead people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On July 10th, 2008 at 4:00 am, RabbidSquirrel said:<br />
On July 10th, 2008 at 1:12 am, Fat Jolly Penguin said:</p>
<p>o.O You’re dead?<br />
Yes.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I see postings from dead people.</p>
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		<title>By: heroyalwhyness</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/09/dhs-researching-electric-shock-bracelets-to-subdue-airline-terrorists/comment-page-1/#comment-372161</link>
		<dc:creator>heroyalwhyness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annie Jacobsen&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaviationnation.com/2008/07/02/dhs-considers-stun-bracelets-for-passengers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;The Aviation Nation&quot;&lt;/a&gt; carried a post on this 7/2.

&lt;blockquote&gt;So what exactly does it mean when these guys say DHS &quot;has expressed interest&quot; in the &quot;so-called safety bracelet?&quot; Unfortunate for any embarrassed DHS official who might wants to deny the veracity of the claim, Black and Denning have posted a copy of part of the letter on their Washington Times blog.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;According to a letter from DHS official, Paul S. Ruwaldt of the Science and Technology Directorate, office of Research and Development, to the inventor whom he had previously met with, he wrote, “To make it clear, we [the federal government] are interested in…the immobilizing security bracelet, and look forward to receiving a written proposal.” The letterhead, in case you were wondering, came from the DHS office at the William J. Hughes Technical Center at the Atlantic City International Airport, or the Federal Aviation Administration headquarters. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annie Jacobsen&#8217;s <a href="http://www.theaviationnation.com/2008/07/02/dhs-considers-stun-bracelets-for-passengers/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;The Aviation Nation&#8221;</a> carried a post on this 7/2.</p>
<blockquote><p>So what exactly does it mean when these guys say DHS &#8220;has expressed interest&#8221; in the &#8220;so-called safety bracelet?&#8221; Unfortunate for any embarrassed DHS official who might wants to deny the veracity of the claim, Black and Denning have posted a copy of part of the letter on their Washington Times blog.  </p>
<blockquote><p>According to a letter from DHS official, Paul S. Ruwaldt of the Science and Technology Directorate, office of Research and Development, to the inventor whom he had previously met with, he wrote, “To make it clear, we [the federal government] are interested in…the immobilizing security bracelet, and look forward to receiving a written proposal.” The letterhead, in case you were wondering, came from the DHS office at the William J. Hughes Technical Center at the Atlantic City International Airport, or the Federal Aviation Administration headquarters. </p>
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		<title>By: Danceswithdachshunds</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/09/dhs-researching-electric-shock-bracelets-to-subdue-airline-terrorists/comment-page-1/#comment-372157</link>
		<dc:creator>Danceswithdachshunds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the idea is from &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spock&#039;s_Brain&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Star Trek, season 3, episode 1&lt;/a&gt;.  The Morgs, (males), were permanently fitted with an obedience device and forced to live in the planet&#039;s harsh environment on the surface while serving the Eymorgs, (females), who all lived underground in a pristine setting.  
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The Eymorg captors place belts on the landing party that they can&#039;t remove and that inflict intense pain upon them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

After near 30 years of marriage I know there is no question that every woman will buy such a device when it becomes  available,(I&#039;m actively watching for an IPO).  It looks like DHS is bringing us one step closer to where no man has gone before...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the idea is from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spock's_Brain" rel="nofollow">Star Trek, season 3, episode 1</a>.  The Morgs, (males), were permanently fitted with an obedience device and forced to live in the planet&#8217;s harsh environment on the surface while serving the Eymorgs, (females), who all lived underground in a pristine setting.  </p>
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The Eymorg captors place belts on the landing party that they can&#8217;t remove and that inflict intense pain upon them.</p></blockquote>
<p>After near 30 years of marriage I know there is no question that every woman will buy such a device when it becomes  available,(I&#8217;m actively watching for an IPO).  It looks like DHS is bringing us one step closer to where no man has gone before&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NHMagenta</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/09/dhs-researching-electric-shock-bracelets-to-subdue-airline-terrorists/comment-page-1/#comment-372126</link>
		<dc:creator>NHMagenta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The responses to this device show the well-earned mistrust of Government.

MY read of this is the device is intended for prisoner transport; I wouldn&#039;t have a problem with that application as it would make it easier to transport them via common carrier rather than (expensive) one-off arragements.

However there&#039;s always the possibility some bureaucrat gets the bright idea of a wider application for this device; for instance what if all corrections institutions required the inmates to wear their bracelets?

Would there be a further mission-creep where those evacuated from a disaster zone be required to wear them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The responses to this device show the well-earned mistrust of Government.</p>
<p>MY read of this is the device is intended for prisoner transport; I wouldn&#8217;t have a problem with that application as it would make it easier to transport them via common carrier rather than (expensive) one-off arragements.</p>
<p>However there&#8217;s always the possibility some bureaucrat gets the bright idea of a wider application for this device; for instance what if all corrections institutions required the inmates to wear their bracelets?</p>
<p>Would there be a further mission-creep where those evacuated from a disaster zone be required to wear them?</p>
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		<title>By: graysonret</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/09/dhs-researching-electric-shock-bracelets-to-subdue-airline-terrorists/comment-page-1/#comment-372109</link>
		<dc:creator>graysonret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a time when flying used to be fun; endless carts of food going by, free drinks, nice crew members. Now it&#039;s like checking into jail.  Personally, I&#039;ve given up flying anywhere, unless it&#039;s overseas again.  I&#039;d rather spend an extra day or 2 driving where I need to go, rather than go through the &quot;humiliation&quot; of flying. At least (not yet) I don&#039;t have to go through security to get something to eat, or check into a motel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a time when flying used to be fun; endless carts of food going by, free drinks, nice crew members. Now it&#8217;s like checking into jail.  Personally, I&#8217;ve given up flying anywhere, unless it&#8217;s overseas again.  I&#8217;d rather spend an extra day or 2 driving where I need to go, rather than go through the &#8220;humiliation&#8221; of flying. At least (not yet) I don&#8217;t have to go through security to get something to eat, or check into a motel.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisFromGermany</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/09/dhs-researching-electric-shock-bracelets-to-subdue-airline-terrorists/comment-page-1/#comment-372096</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisFromGermany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This &quot;EMD Security Bracelet&quot; story has at least some truth to it and has been discussed on various ScienceBlogs blogs back in April:

http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2008/04/shock_arm_band_wave_of_the_fut.php

http://www.scienceblogs.de/frischer-wind/2008/03/flugreisen-2020-schockarmbander-fur-alle-passagiere.php

Looking at this security concept, one really has to wonder if it would be impossible for a terrorist to find out the transmission frequency that triggers these bracelets and take the entire planeload of passengers hostage using an ordinary laptop with some simple modifications (and since you are allowed to bring these on board...). As if the DHS screeners could distinguish between a &#039;normal&#039; laptop and a &#039;wired&#039; one...

Maybe the airlines should just strip-search all passengers before allowing them on the plane - and then handcuff them to their seats...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;EMD Security Bracelet&#8221; story has at least some truth to it and has been discussed on various ScienceBlogs blogs back in April:</p>
<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2008/04/shock_arm_band_wave_of_the_fut.php" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2008/04/shock_arm_band_wave_of_the_fut.php</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.scienceblogs.de/frischer-wind/2008/03/flugreisen-2020-schockarmbander-fur-alle-passagiere.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.scienceblogs.de/frischer-wind/2008/03/flugreisen-2020-schockarmbander-fur-alle-passagiere.php</a></p>
<p>Looking at this security concept, one really has to wonder if it would be impossible for a terrorist to find out the transmission frequency that triggers these bracelets and take the entire planeload of passengers hostage using an ordinary laptop with some simple modifications (and since you are allowed to bring these on board&#8230;). As if the DHS screeners could distinguish between a &#8216;normal&#8217; laptop and a &#8216;wired&#8217; one&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe the airlines should just strip-search all passengers before allowing them on the plane &#8211; and then handcuff them to their seats&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RabbidSquirrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>RabbidSquirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On July 10th, 2008 at 1:12 am, Fat Jolly Penguin said:

o.O You’re dead?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On July 10th, 2008 at 1:12 am, Fat Jolly Penguin said:</p>
<p>o.O You’re dead?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Today&#8217;s Ma.gnolia Links : Slobokan&#8217;s Site O&#8217; Schtuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Today&#8217;s Ma.gnolia Links : Slobokan&#8217;s Site O&#8217; Schtuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] DHS researching electric-shock bracelets to subdue airline terrorists (UPDATE: DHS denial) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nevada Paleocon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nevada Paleocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was just posted on the Washington Times story as an update:

* * * * *
&lt;b&gt;UPDATE:&lt;/b&gt; From CheifBo in the comment section

&lt;i&gt;I would like to inform all interested in the truth about Lamperd&#039;s involvement in this project [EMD safety bracelet]. I have personnally been involved in the research and development of state of the art training programs and weapon systems with Lapmerd Less Lethal for the past eight years and have found them to be of the highest of integrity and concern for human life and the preservation of peace. Their mission is to develop and distribute the best products in the world when it comes to Law Enforcement, Security and Military applications within use of force. Having been a sworn law enforcement officer for nearly 27 years and a police trainer in Use of Force Management since 1993 I have observed alot of devices and gimmicks that have come and gone as the catch all in securing America.

&lt;b&gt;Lamperd agreed in principal to assist in the development of this product for the patent holder [inventor].&lt;/b&gt; Once this is established, then more research is placed on the actual application of the device. We conduct our training hands on, we do not farm it out as others do. So before we are ready to place a product on the market we know what it is expected to do and how it is expected to perform. We also go through great lengths to put in place a training program that will school even the novice in safely using any product used in applying force in any situation. I think alot of the readers have jumped the gun when it comes to this issue and this certain product. Lamperd is a publicly traded company that keeps its shareholders informed on its latest products and projects. I admire them for this and so do thousands of police, military and security personnel from all around the world that we have trained. Please feel free to peruse their internet site for continuing updates on products and its mission at www.lamperdlesslethal.com and be safe out there.&lt;/i&gt;

* * * * *

So much for the story not being true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was just posted on the Washington Times story as an update:</p>
<p>* * * * *<br />
<b>UPDATE:</b> From CheifBo in the comment section</p>
<p><i>I would like to inform all interested in the truth about Lamperd&#8217;s involvement in this project [EMD safety bracelet]. I have personnally been involved in the research and development of state of the art training programs and weapon systems with Lapmerd Less Lethal for the past eight years and have found them to be of the highest of integrity and concern for human life and the preservation of peace. Their mission is to develop and distribute the best products in the world when it comes to Law Enforcement, Security and Military applications within use of force. Having been a sworn law enforcement officer for nearly 27 years and a police trainer in Use of Force Management since 1993 I have observed alot of devices and gimmicks that have come and gone as the catch all in securing America.</p>
<p><b>Lamperd agreed in principal to assist in the development of this product for the patent holder [inventor].</b> Once this is established, then more research is placed on the actual application of the device. We conduct our training hands on, we do not farm it out as others do. So before we are ready to place a product on the market we know what it is expected to do and how it is expected to perform. We also go through great lengths to put in place a training program that will school even the novice in safely using any product used in applying force in any situation. I think alot of the readers have jumped the gun when it comes to this issue and this certain product. Lamperd is a publicly traded company that keeps its shareholders informed on its latest products and projects. I admire them for this and so do thousands of police, military and security personnel from all around the world that we have trained. Please feel free to peruse their internet site for continuing updates on products and its mission at <a href="http://www.lamperdlesslethal.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lamperdlesslethal.com</a> and be safe out there.</i></p>
<p>* * * * *</p>
<p>So much for the story not being true.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dan Lee Report &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shocking news from Big Brother; Flying could be an electrifyng experience..</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/09/dhs-researching-electric-shock-bracelets-to-subdue-airline-terrorists/comment-page-1/#comment-372071</link>
		<dc:creator>The Dan Lee Report &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shocking news from Big Brother; Flying could be an electrifyng experience..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In fairness, there are also documents on the lamperd site discussing using these for controlling illegal aliens once in custody that you may want to check out regarding the &#8220;other&#8221; uses proposed between the DHS &amp; Lamperd Less Lethal. Now that is a good idea, because they&#8217;ve actually broken the law! Also check out the responses from DHS over here at MM&#8217;s place. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In fairness, there are also documents on the lamperd site discussing using these for controlling illegal aliens once in custody that you may want to check out regarding the &#8220;other&#8221; uses proposed between the DHS &#38; Lamperd Less Lethal. Now that is a good idea, because they&#8217;ve actually broken the law! Also check out the responses from DHS over here at MM&#8217;s place. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fat Jolly Penguin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fat Jolly Penguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On July 10th, 2008 at 12:45 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;This one’s true…it happened to me just last week.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

o.O You&#039;re dead?

/registered to vote as a Democrat yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On July 10th, 2008 at 12:45 am, RabbidSquirrel said:</p>
<blockquote><p>This one’s true…it happened to me just last week.</p></blockquote>
<p>o.O You&#8217;re dead?</p>
<p>/registered to vote as a Democrat yet?</p>
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