Comments on: DHS researching electric-shock bracelets to subdue airline terrorists (UPDATE: DHS denial)

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Did I just wake up in an Orwell novel? « Buttle’s World — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:26:28 +0000

[...] Malkin has a sort-of denial from the DHS. Note, especially, that last line in the post. So maybe more of my fire-spitting [...]

By: securitymom

securitymom — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:25:35 +0000

To follow up on my earlier comment, I’m not saying the letter is a hoax – it’s a company trying to sell a product. The letter is two years old and nothing came out of it. I have never heard of any discussion in the past two years I’ve been at TSA to use any kind of bracelet for anyone.

By: Dan Lee

Dan Lee — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:53:26 +0000

RabbidSquirrel said:
On July 9th, 2008 at 7:20 pm, amerpun said:
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(-)A Mexican gang is going around killing the first driver to notify them that they’re car lights are out.
This one’s true…it happened to me just last week.

Wow, you’re typing really well for someone that was just murdered by a gang last week..

~Dan Lee

By: Dan Lee

Dan Lee — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:49:25 +0000

DHS can deny it all they want, but the Lamberd Less Lethal website has documents right on it showing the communications between them & DHS about this very device, & its potential uses. They were definitely at least considering buying it. Just scroll down to the bracelet, & read the PDF documents for yourself. ~Dan Lee

By: 30 pcs of silver

30 pcs of silver — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:04:30 +0000

On July 10th, 2008 at 4:00 am, RabbidSquirrel said:
On July 10th, 2008 at 1:12 am, Fat Jolly Penguin said:

o.O You’re dead?
Yes.

I see postings from dead people.

By: heroyalwhyness

heroyalwhyness — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:39:21 +0000

Annie Jacobsen's "The Aviation Nation" carried a post on this 7/2.

So what exactly does it mean when these guys say DHS "has expressed interest" in the "so-called safety bracelet?" Unfortunate for any embarrassed DHS official who might wants to deny the veracity of the claim, Black and Denning have posted a copy of part of the letter on their Washington Times blog.
According to a letter from DHS official, Paul S. Ruwaldt of the Science and Technology Directorate, office of Research and Development, to the inventor whom he had previously met with, he wrote, “To make it clear, we [the federal government] are interested in…the immobilizing security bracelet, and look forward to receiving a written proposal.” The letterhead, in case you were wondering, came from the DHS office at the William J. Hughes Technical Center at the Atlantic City International Airport, or the Federal Aviation Administration headquarters.

By: Danceswithdachshunds

Danceswithdachshunds — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:29:50 +0000

I think the idea is from Star Trek, season 3, episode 1. The Morgs, (males), were permanently fitted with an obedience device and forced to live in the planet's harsh environment on the surface while serving the Eymorgs, (females), who all lived underground in a pristine setting.

The Eymorg captors place belts on the landing party that they can't remove and that inflict intense pain upon them.

After near 30 years of marriage I know there is no question that every woman will buy such a device when it becomes available,(I'm actively watching for an IPO). It looks like DHS is bringing us one step closer to where no man has gone before...

By: NHMagenta

NHMagenta — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:16:20 +0000

The responses to this device show the well-earned mistrust of Government.

MY read of this is the device is intended for prisoner transport; I wouldn’t have a problem with that application as it would make it easier to transport them via common carrier rather than (expensive) one-off arragements.

However there’s always the possibility some bureaucrat gets the bright idea of a wider application for this device; for instance what if all corrections institutions required the inmates to wear their bracelets?

Would there be a further mission-creep where those evacuated from a disaster zone be required to wear them?

By: graysonret

graysonret — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:00:34 +0000

There was a time when flying used to be fun; endless carts of food going by, free drinks, nice crew members. Now it’s like checking into jail. Personally, I’ve given up flying anywhere, unless it’s overseas again. I’d rather spend an extra day or 2 driving where I need to go, rather than go through the “humiliation” of flying. At least (not yet) I don’t have to go through security to get something to eat, or check into a motel.

By: ChrisFromGermany

ChrisFromGermany — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:33:03 +0000

This “EMD Security Bracelet” story has at least some truth to it and has been discussed on various ScienceBlogs blogs back in April:

http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2008/04/shock_arm_band_wave_of_the_fut.php

http://www.scienceblogs.de/frischer-wind/2008/03/flugreisen-2020-schockarmbander-fur-alle-passagiere.php

Looking at this security concept, one really has to wonder if it would be impossible for a terrorist to find out the transmission frequency that triggers these bracelets and take the entire planeload of passengers hostage using an ordinary laptop with some simple modifications (and since you are allowed to bring these on board…). As if the DHS screeners could distinguish between a ‘normal’ laptop and a ‘wired’ one…

Maybe the airlines should just strip-search all passengers before allowing them on the plane – and then handcuff them to their seats…

By: RabbidSquirrel

RabbidSquirrel — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:00:44 +0000

On July 10th, 2008 at 1:12 am, Fat Jolly Penguin said:

o.O You’re dead?

Yes.

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Today’s Ma.gnolia Links : Slobokan’s Site O’ Schtuff — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:02:11 +0000

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