Finally: Bush to lift offshore drilling ban
You’ll remember that I took the White House to task for its “You go first!” games on lifting the offshore drilling ban. See here. There’s an executive order ban that his dad signed and there’s the congressional ban. Back in June, I highlighted the Institute for Energy Research’s open letter to President Bush pressing him to tear up the executive order.
Took him long enough, but he’s finally listening:
The White House says President Bush is planning to lift an executive ban on offshore oil drilling.
In a Rose Garden statement on Monday, the president plans to lift the ban. But by itself, the move will not lead to more drilling off America’s coastline.
Congress must still lift its own legislative ban before offshore drilling can happen.
Ball’s in your court, San Fran Nan…will you cry “hoax” again or get Congress off its collective arse and actually do something about energy independence now?
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In related news, a federal judge sided with the enviro-nitwits and struck down a plan to drill in a Michigan forest. The Sierra Club rejoices:
pponents of a plan to drill for natural gas beneath a wilderness area known as the Mason Tract are celebrating a federal judge’s decision to block mineral exploration there.
A judge determined federal officials failed to perform adequate environmental assessments prior to granting approval to drill.
“Absent of going back and doing the full environmental impact statement or appealing, it’s dead,” said Marvin Roberson of the Michigan Sierra Club, a plaintiff in a lawsuit against the federal government to halt the drilling.
Savoy Exploration of Traverse City for years wanted to slant drill a new well beneath the sprawling, scenic Mason Tract from a nearby spot on federal forestland. A pipeline and production facility would be installed if gas is found.
A lawsuit was filed in 2005 by Anglers of the Au Sable, the Mackinac Chapter of the Sierra Club and Tim Mason, grandson of the man who donated the Crawford County land to the state.
The suit questioned whether the U.S. government performed an adequate environmental assessment of the proposed drilling and if all mineral lease laws were followed.
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Fischer-Tropsch Process and the Democrat Congress
With the energy crisis spiraling out of control and alternative energy sources in demand the process of turning coal in to liquid fuel would be a no brainer. The United States holds over a quarter of the world’s coal reserves and could satisfy our energy demands for the next 200 years. The Fisher-Tropsch process is the key to unlocking coal’s potential as a liquid fuel in a short amount of time.
The process was invented in oil scarce Germany during the 1920s to produce liquid fuels. Germany’s synthetic fuel production reached more than 124,000 barrels per day in 1944 when half of their economy and their armed forces ran on synthetic fuel.
After the war, captured German scientists recruited in Operation Paperclip continued to work on synthetic fuels in the United States in a United States Bureau of Mines program initiated by the Synthetic Liquid Fuels Act of 1944.
The US government funded coal liquefaction research for 40 years and even started the Synthetic Fuels Corporation in response to the 1979 energy crisis:
The Synthetic Fuels Corporation was established in 1980 by the Synthetic Fuels Corporation Act to create a market for alternatives to imported fossil fuels. The corporation was abolished by President Reagan during the 1980’s oil glut.
President Reagan had this to say in 1984 as he began the dismantlement of the Synthetic Fuels Corporation, being the fiscal conservative that he was:
“Synthetic fuels held promise as an economically competitive alternative to traditional fuel sources. Proponents of the current law argued that the Federal program would have little or no impact on the deficit and established an extremely rapid and ambitious schedule for developing a commercial synthetic fuels industry….[T]he presumptions that underlie the current synthetic fuels program have proven at variance with the realities of the market place. It is now apparent that developing a commercial synthetic fuels industry at the pace envisioned by the Energy Security Act of 1980 would require enormous direct budget outlays that would not be offset by any economic benefits.”
As the price of oil continues to climb, industry in the United States is once again looking for alternatives to imported petroleum. Coal liquefaction is being evaluated once again as a cheaper alternative to imported oil.
The question is why our Congress still sits idly by when the synthetic fuels industry should be restarted. I mean they did it for almost 40 years! Answer: The current Democrat controlled Congress does not want you to have cheaper energy prices. It’s another reason to vote out the lame Democrat Congress that will do anything to get Obama elected even if it means to make you suffer at the pump. Not to mention the nutty environmentalist whackos would have a cathartic rupture if we decided to use coal on a massive scale, even if the process has been made “green”.
30, come on, you know better than that, using sense and lgm in the same sentence…
What do they need with their own legs? They piggy-back off the rest of us with the taxes they seek to impose.
Been writing, calling, pestering my liberal congressman and semi conservative senators for months concerning this DRILLING issue. Hope this will get the BUS (metaphorically speaking) moving in the right direction.
As I said earlier, infastructure. There’s billions of it there in the gulf…ready for use by Florida rigs. Also, the drilling area in ANWR is less than 25 miles from Sourdough oil field and less than 100 from Prudoe Bay.
Great idea lgm, thanks for pointing that out. We’ll get right on it and should have that worked out in a week or two at the most.
Heh. Made ya laugh, huh? Well, good. We should at least get some use out of him…
HA! Got me there.
Got me again.
Ok. Maybe Al Gore isn’t a good example. Hmmm… I know. I’m going to start taking the bus and cut my electric use just like Nancy Pelosi.
jsr,
Don’t do it. lgm will then label you a fat elite and that’s just not acceptable. He should be banned for it.
Yeah, that’s it. I’ll take my infant son and two daughters onto our marvelous light rail system…..so I can end up like this gal…our most recent public transportation victim. I tend to think that I would fail to protect my children if I were to take them on the public transportation system.
The libotards want the rest of us to conserve, conserve, conserve, while they figure out a way to give another tax rebate to offset the high gas prices for people to poor to own cars. Rebates are better than tax cuts because the gov gets to employ more people to manage the program, which decides who pays and who gets the rebate. It’s a big win-win; the gov takes in more money, creates jobs and doles out more to the poor and gains more votes. What’s not to like?
Me too jsr, except I can save a little cash over her since I don’t need to hire armed guards. I carry my own protection.
I continue to use as much gasoline as I require. I invest in my own carbon credit business, and have been doing so for over 30 years. Let’s see here…I have planted 27 trees, 143 shrubs and bushes, 200+ perennials, 600+ annuals (all in my yards), so I guess I’m good, carbon offset wise for another 30 years!
I have also bought nothing but “EnergyStar” appliaces in the last ten years, and have made copious use of sub-compact floros in the past three years. My big Chevy truck gets 15 MPG/city, and 24 MPG/hwy, due to some legal engine modifications. I don’t use a power boat, but instead fish out of a SOT kayak…I guess I’ll have to figure out a carbon offset for my breathing when paddling…
My point is, I have done my part, as have many others, and the air is dirtier, power is more expensive, and my “quality of life” is basically the same as those who don’t do their part. The difference is, people who talk the talk, but don’t walk the walk, like Al gore, Nancy, Teddy, and so many others, get richer while dubiously “protecting the poor and the environment.”
It’s time for them to put up, or shut up!
I vote that they just go ahead and do the latter. I’m tired of listening to them.
A few quotes from this article
Drill NOW!
Ok In 3…2…1
How long will it before the libs go nuts that and blame Bush for
killing the environment?????
Yeah - how do you do that with a city like Milwaukee, founded in 1846? Oh, that’s right…more of what liberals love: TAX INCREASES!
How about using our natural resources to keep the American standard of living above that of the 17th century, instead?
Capitalists provided financing, but the liberal “idealists” were in charge of the majority of the designing of our old cities, and the implementation of urban planning. There was little if any, conservative contribution to that process. We also gave over control of our schools to the liberals, and look where that’s at today.
I’m sick and tired of the “coulda, shoulda, woulda” mentality of the feckless do-gooders spouting-off, non-stop, without ever originating an original idea on their own in the process.
The legacy of modern liberalism will be…”Yeah, it could have been better if we had been able to ‘Talk’ about it, to resolve our differences. Unfortunately, the Republicans always seemed to stop this process!”
Leadership and change we CAN count on! Truly…
Only 90 minutes. Not bad. If I was to ride the bus I would end up walking over ten miles to get to the office after a 4 to 5 1/2 hour ride. I would have to ride the 26 miles to downtown, changing buses three times because there are no direct express buses in my part of the valley. Then ride another 30 miles to get to the point where I can start my ten mile walk to work.
Yup thats going to work.
AN, whats the predicted average speed for our trains to nowhere. Is it something like 22 MPH as I read earlier?
For me to make it to work on the bus, I have to drive to the bus stop, and then catch a bus the night before I get there, unless I drive into town and park there and then I STILL have to catch a bus. I would love to bus it, but I simply can’t from here no matter what fantacy land LGM lives in.
Yes lgm taxes do pay for roads - GAS TAXES - gas taxes, taxes on tires, motor oil and auto parts- taxes that TRUCK AND AUTOMOBILE AND MOTOR CYCLE DRIVERS PAY. Can you see the difference there lgm? This country does not tax your buses, commuter trains or bath houses to pay for the roads. Gas taxes, taxes on tires, motor oil and auto parts often DO pay for public transportation but I don’t think they pay for bath houses yet; with Obama maybe they will.
IF some damn fool doesn’t run into them and cause an accident 22 mph is about right.
Geeze, you guys, how dare you do something as selfish as worry about your jobs! Surely there’s a McDonalds, or a gas station, or some other establishment within walking distance of your home where you could work. Sure, you’d probably take a major pay cut and end up working for minimum wage, but at least you’d be mimicking the enlightened folk on the East/West coasts. How dare you put your family’s needs before the environment!
Nope. They are subsidized buy our other tax dollars.
lgm,
You might want to note that one of the main causes of urban sprawl (at least in the beginning) was white flight to the suburbs to to escape forced busing. Now who’s great idea was that do you suppose?
That puts the blame where it squarely belongs, the Democrats in Congress. The Democrats imposed their ban on offshore drilling in 1981, when Reagan was trying to get the oil flowing after Jimmy Carter’s debacle of a Presidency.
Democrats Marxists, always trying to help.
Obviously Dems use “10 Years” because they don’t want to drill…period. Some drilling could produce oil in a matter of months, some would take years, but virtually none would take 10 years. The absurdity is the same Dems, when the crisis is even worse years from now, will be saying, “we can’t drill, it will take too long.”
That’s because the conservative men have 3 legs! BOOM!
Not to piss on the parade, but won’t The Big O just reinstate an executive order in January?
Dammit, I wish Bush had been responsive when gas first hit $3 after Katrina and Congress was friendlier.
Don’t tell them that, we’ll NEVER get any rest. (o;
Yes, it may take 10 years…four or five of them will be taken up with the endless court hearings from the tree huggers, and a couple more by liberal shenanigans in the House and Senate…not to protect the planet, mind you, but to protect their power in those houses!
If it ever does get the go-ahead, it will only take five or six years to make it to the consumer.
Some big-minded people in Clearwater, Florida are working on hydrogen cars.
I’m looking to get on a waiting list for City Cat Aircar(Google it). It’s out of India, and for $20 worth of compressed air you should get about 1000 miles. Folks in the midwest should look into ethanol. Why are countries like Brazil and India ahead of the game in regards to energy independence while we are still hooked on oil like crackheads?
I think drilling in our own territories should be a last resort, and we have lots of other options to resort to. I’m not saying drilling should never be considered down the road, but we should be looking into oil-free cars right now. Also, think about how many jobs could be created with new technology? Again, why are countries like India and Brazil able to get off the “pipe”? Morever, who killed the electric car, and can we get it back in mass production? I hope the big oil companies here aren’t buying patents and suppressing progress. I don’t know if this is going on or not, and I hope not, but our lack of progress and creativity is curious to me.
Sorry if I ramble here, but it’s very busy at work, and after seeing this thread on break, I wanted to drop a note or two, and refer people to City Cat Airbus. Hopefully, 10 years from now, less than half the cars on our roads will be running on gas.
Banging the drum for Pelosi and the other band of 9 percenters. Tell that to a family of six who’s paying $4.50 for a gallon of gas. Ambulance chaser.
Wow I think San Fran nan is manic depressive! 2weeks ago she and Reid were saying that GW should release the ban then last week it was a hoax now that GW release ban this is what she has to say……….
Pelosi Statement on President Bush Lifting the Executive Ban on Offshore Drilling
Jul 14 03:34 PM US/Eastern
WASHINGTON, July 14 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — Speaker Nancy Pelosi released the following statement today on President Bush’s announcement lifting the executive ban on drilling in protected coastal areas:
“Once again, the oilman in the White House is echoing the demands of Big Oil.
“The Bush plan is a hoax. It will neither reduce gas prices nor increase energy independence. It just gives millions more acres to the same companies that are sitting on nearly 68 million acres of public lands and coastal areas.
“If the President wants to bring down prices in the next two weeks, not the next two decades, he should free our oil by releasing a small portion of the more than 700 million barrels of oil we have put in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
“It’s time to tell the oil industry: ‘You already have millions of acres to drill. Use it or lose it.’”
SOURCE Office of the Speaker of the House
Yeah - because on top of soaring oil, let’s take foodstuffs (i.e., corn) and turn it into gasoline.
There’s a reason why there’s food sortages in parts of the world, and increased prices at home: we’re using our food supply to fuel our cars.
What is this–the joke that will never die??? Excuse me, have you seen the price of ethanol? It’s not cheaper. It’s not about oil dependence—what a crock! It’s about making gasoline cheaper!
#136 and #137.
Ethanol is one option to explore. Food sources are an important issue to factor into the debate.
I see you ignored my other points.
Now what about batteries, water and air? Air anyone? I’m sorry if some of you have stock with Exxon, but your drilling plans aren’t going to lower you family of six’s gas prices in the next few years. It’s crazy to ignore alternative energy sources for vehicles, and act like oil is the be all to end all. I think some of you are afraid and reluctant to change. You think America will be too different for your liking, and perhaps you’re to arrogant to think hey, “maybe some of these other countries may have some good ideas.” Do you enjoy paying 4 plus dollars a gallon? Do you think drilling will change that within the next couple of years.
Air, water-hydrogen, electric, ethanol studies. That’s the future around the globe folks. Get on, or sit back and watch. I guarandamntee you that my vehicles won’t be running on gas in 2010. So have fun waiting to see how much drilling helps you then. And good luck with your oil stocks.
About Dame Time
Perhaps the answer lies with the Democrats:
More here.
This part I love.
Good luck on that waiting list, mistressjustice. I’m quite sure you’ll have your car within the next few
monthsquartersyears. Actually, I’d be willing to bet that you won’t be in possession of a compressed air vehicle before 2010 ends.mistressjustice thinks everyone can afford to buy a brand new car.
What planet are you from?
Oh yeah, Libtard Planet, where everyone is the same, and every person who works for $12.00 an hour can afford car payments.
Do you realize how elitist you sound when you tell people who are on fixed incomes, or on disability to buy new cars?
Or is it the fact that in your mind, those people don’t exist?
atheling,
mistressjustice isn’t buying a new car anytime soon. She’ll be waiting for the compressed air car….and waiting….and waiting….
Actually, you don’t have to wait…thirty years ago, I don’t remember which company it was, gave us compressed air cars…it was either Mattel or Whamm-o. Of course they were great for knocking down the GI Joes, and their fortifications….
As far as the Clearwater, Florida group…hydroxy gas from water…if the technology is valid, is a great idea. I just don’t hear anyone jumping on the idea for developing aftermarket adds on. Supposedly, it costs less than $200 for the parts to build the unit, and once utilized, will double your current gas mileage. I just don’t know if the tech is valid at this point.
Good post 30 pieces. And at least we seem be looking at this the right way.
If your info on Obama is accurate, he sure as hell better flipflop on this issue, and look into some of the sugar-based ethanol from Brazil, and anywhere else we can get it. Hell, lets see about if and how we can grow and manufacture it here. I’m all for new ideas. Barack has flipped before, and he can’t be stupid enough not to flip on this if it’s all mostly a win-win situation. If he’s preaching energy independence and new ideas, he has to step up.
I’m willing to wait Corkie, and I’m willing to look at any other non-oil related alternatives that may be available sooner. These oil prices have gotten my complacent butt in gear the last few years, and I’m looking to pay this Impala off sooner rather than later.
For the drill now crowd, what makes you think oil companies will cut you such a break when the drilling finally yields results. If gas is 7 bucks a gallon at that time, due to foreign oil prices, do you really think your home good ole USA oil companies will give gas at 2-3 bucks a gallon? I doubt it. Maybe drilling will just produce more oil to charge at the same outrageous prices. If your car, and minds are still stuck on oil, what are you gonna do? Nothing. You’re gonna bend over, and say “thank you massa oilman sir, can I have another.” Then big oil is gonna convince you to drill more and elsewhere. It’s a joke, and you’ll be slaves to the black gold.
Air, electric, hydrogen, and ethanol…we gotta change our mindsets, and quit thinking big oil companies give a damn about your home situation as opposed to simply getting richer.
As we can see, mistressjustice is stuck on stupid.
She has no concept of basic economics. And she doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the poor, unless it’s her clients who rape, murder and steal (but that’s because of low self esteem /sarc).
Supply and demand. Once the Fed fixes the dollar we should be in good shape.
With all due respect mistressjustice, you lack basic understandings in both technology commercialization and economics.
It’s not a mere matter of changing a mindset. It’s great that you’re motivated to help, but you need to be realistic.
I agree that we need to be dedicated to changing our gasoline infrastructure, but it will take years. I’d love to see plug-in electric drive cars (NOT hybrids) become ubiquitous. I’d love to see these electric cars use a gasoline engine merely to charge the battery. I’d love to see these electric cars have solar cells to assist in charging the battery (while the car is parked and while it is in use). I’d love to see us using nuclear plants to provide the required additional power to the grid.
However, until our dreamworld becomes a reality (which will take some time), we need to produce our own oil. We need to drill, and we need to drill now.
The best way to lower energy prices is to establish an adequate supply. Look at what happened with natural gas prices a few years ago. Prices were high, so the companies drilled. They all drilled, and prices went down. They didn’t want prices to go down, but it happened anyway. And it happened despite them not giving a damn about your home situation. And it happened while they were trying to simply get richer.
Gosh, I’m getting an re-education here! I thought the “big” oil companies searched for, drilled, processed,and made crude oil available for industry and consumers. I didn’t realize they also have a say in what type of vehicle technology gets invented, tested, and marketed. Wow! Were the analysts I saw on the tube recently, wrong when they said the major oil companies were divesting themselves of their gasoline stations, due to inprofitability? Humph!
I don’t think the oil companies are going to suffer if a new type of energy is discovered to run vehicles. They will still have plenty of customers to sell the crude to, like maybe the plastics manufacturers…look around you now…how many plastic or other synthetic products are in your immediate view? Odds are you computer components, carpeting, water bottle, just about the majority of things we take for granted comes from oil. No, the “big, bad,” oil companies are not our enemies!
I have nothing against public transportation.When you decide to use it you become a slave to their schedules.If it’s for the lgm types,go for it.I would rather ride my own way,even if it is a horse.
30pcs. Hopefully, you’re right. I just fear that once people are used to paying a certain amount, greed and psychology will keep the prices up. I’m cynical, and I’m ready to try a different route.
Corkie- Electric cars have been used in the past, and do need the speed and endurance tinkered with. Air cars should be ready to go by next year. My boss is already on the wait list. You know about the situation in Brazil. I just think alternatives are more readily available sooner rather than later. We’ll see, I guess.
st of a few rich Republicans in sI don’t get the “let’s stick it to the rich, evil oil companies” schtick.
Do liberals honestly think oil companies are run by five evil Republicans in suits who wave a magic wand and get the oil out of the ground?
No. Those big, evil oil companies employ many, many people - many who aren’t rich and many who’d be in serious trouble if we nationalized or shut down the eeeeevillll oil companies?
I don’t know of anyone who wants to shutdown or nationalize oil companies. I know I don’t. We will still need oil companies to survive, but if people start finding other ways to get their cars moving, some of these oil companies will likely shutdown, or at least downsize. That’s capitalism. That’s the American way. As other options for fuel become available, we’ll let the market decide. You’re a conservative, so I’m sure you’d agree with this post.::)))
30 pcs of silver said:
Right, if we lower our demand for foreign oil and drill here and develop alternative energy sources, OPEC will glut the market and the price will come down.
Then I would be as “entitled” to drive a car as you would to ride the bus, although I subsidize more of your bus than you do my car.
Ah yes, the “fat elites.” You mean the limousine liberals that drive big SUVs and fly as they wish on private airplanes? Those fat elites?
Well, if you want to run a bus or light rail out to my house, I will be happy to ride it. Unfortunately, the investment by society would far outstrip the return on that investment, but hey, do another feelgood project.
How do you use “urban planning” after the fact?
Bottom line: the feces are going to hit the fan when the Northeast liberals who heat with oil, currently at $4.89/gallon, start turning up the thermostats.
All the lib pols from this area will be hard pressed to say “no drilling” when their constituents realize that they are barring the one thing that will bring their heating costs down short term: drilling.
As mentioned above (and ignored by the elitist liberal snob, lgm), the fact that we will be showing the world that we have the will to tap our vast reserves of offshore oil and oil shale etc., will act to drive prices down.
It may take up to ten years to develop some of the oil fields we need, but how long will it take to make all of these theoretical alternative energy sources viable?
Oil will fill the gap in time before these alternatives are developed and exploited.
Let’s try to avoid a Democrat Dark Ages, shall we?
LIBERAL Representative, Maxine Waters suggested recently, that she thought the government should run the oil companies…I think that would qualify as nationalizing.
LOL. I don’t think you have to worry about Mrs. Waters’ idea becoming law. Seriously, Right On. I don’t support this crazy scheme, neither does a majority in Congress. It will be okay. Research, Invent,and Create alternative choices, and let the market decide if gasoline based cars will continue to be wanted.
The entire group of y’all is stuck on stupid! The evidence:
1. You’re arguing with Liberals over energy. Verdict: stupid.
2. You’re arguing with Liberals over oil-drilling. Verdict: stupid.
3. You’re arguing with Liberals over refinery construction. Verdict: stupid.
4. You’re arguing with LIBERAL via oil-derived plastics-encased electricity-sucking devices sending electrically-produced signals over a network built and maintained via oil- or coal-derived power sources! Verdict: colossally-STUPID.
Either vote with LIBERALS, or vote the LIBERALS out of power and get on with doing things which have traditionally enabled the United States of America to BE the best in the world.
BTW- Obama opened a speech with this gem: “We live in the greatest country in the history of the world. I hope you’ll join with me in helping to change it.” Verdict: So far beyond colossally-stupid that we’d have to stand on the shoulders of every liberal ever born to date just to SEE where that bit of genius speechwriting originated!
Why is the importance of reducing the 1.7 BILLION dollars a day that goes out of the USA for imported oil so seldom mentioned? Without the money spent on oil imports, we would have a trade SURPLUS instead of the humongeous deficit we have. The biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the world is going on each and every day and it’s draining America. If we drilled in all the places where there are LOT’s of oil we could cut the money bleeding in half, which would save 850 million dollars a day. Hundreds of thousands of domestic good paying jobs would be created in the process.
And by the way, the money we are sending out of the USA is being used to buy our country, the lastest evidence being the purchase of the Chrysler building in NYC by Dubai.
It is absolutely nuts not to DRILL NOW, even if the price of gas never went down a penny, (but it will).
Is it now time to march on Washington and demand that the idiots in Congress do everything in their power to reduce oil prices NOW, which means DRILLING EVERYWHERE WE HAVE OIL RESERVES, accessing all coal reserves, building up our natural gas and nuclear infrastructures along with aggressive initiatives on expanding renewable forms of energy…short of a revolution where we take up arms, a march on Washington is our best alternative…AND WE CAN HARNESS THE POWER OF THE INTERNET TO ORGANIZE…
The reason why Obama is for tariffs on sugar imports for fuel is because he is in bed big time with the ethanol producers in the US.