Finally: Bush to lift offshore drilling ban

By Michelle Malkin  •  July 14, 2008 10:32 AM

You’ll remember that I took the White House to task for its “You go first!” games on lifting the offshore drilling ban. See here. There’s an executive order ban that his dad signed and there’s the congressional ban. Back in June, I highlighted the Institute for Energy Research’s open letter to President Bush pressing him to tear up the executive order.

Took him long enough, but he’s finally listening:

The White House says President Bush is planning to lift an executive ban on offshore oil drilling.

In a Rose Garden statement on Monday, the president plans to lift the ban. But by itself, the move will not lead to more drilling off America’s coastline.

Congress must still lift its own legislative ban before offshore drilling can happen.

Ball’s in your court, San Fran Nan…will you cry “hoax” again or get Congress off its collective arse and actually do something about energy independence now?

***

In related news, a federal judge sided with the enviro-nitwits and struck down a plan to drill in a Michigan forest. The Sierra Club rejoices:

pponents of a plan to drill for natural gas beneath a wilderness area known as the Mason Tract are celebrating a federal judge’s decision to block mineral exploration there.

A judge determined federal officials failed to perform adequate environmental assessments prior to granting approval to drill.

“Absent of going back and doing the full environmental impact statement or appealing, it’s dead,” said Marvin Roberson of the Michigan Sierra Club, a plaintiff in a lawsuit against the federal government to halt the drilling.

Savoy Exploration of Traverse City for years wanted to slant drill a new well beneath the sprawling, scenic Mason Tract from a nearby spot on federal forestland. A pipeline and production facility would be installed if gas is found.

A lawsuit was filed in 2005 by Anglers of the Au Sable, the Mackinac Chapter of the Sierra Club and Tim Mason, grandson of the man who donated the Crawford County land to the state.

The suit questioned whether the U.S. government performed an adequate environmental assessment of the proposed drilling and if all mineral lease laws were followed.

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  1. #375017
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:35 am, sonofdy said:

    FINALLY somebody does something. HELLLOOOOO 4.10 a gallon? Wake up washington DC!!!!!

  2. #375018
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:35 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Woohoo!

    C’mon Congress do what’s right or place the final nail in your coffin.

  3. #375021
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:36 am, fourstringfuror said:

    All I can say is it’s about time.

  4. #375022
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:36 am, alaskangrizzly said:

    Wow, a pleasant surprise. Be interesting to see how San Fran Nan wiggles out of this one because the American public isn’t buying the insane “drilling for more oil is a hoax” garbage she spewed last week.

  5. #375023
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:36 am, meatpieandtatters said:

    Drilling will treat the symptoms but it won’t cure the problem.

  6. #375026
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:39 am, gayle said:

    If they do not pass this, the liberal party will be history.

  7. #375029
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:42 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    OK now that the ban is lifted will OPEC now glut the market? Soros may be an evil man but I happen to think he’s right about this being a bubble.

  8. #375032
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:42 am, Cosmo said:

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again–and I love nature–I’d drill through a polar bear’s skull if I knew huge petroleum reserves were in there.

    Spotted Owls and Key Largo Wood Rats, too.

  9. #375035
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:43 am, englishqueen01 said:

    This will make things veeeeeerrrrry interesting.

    Let’s see how Obama et. al. deal with the prospect of actually having to make a decision for/against domestic drilling.

    I hear flip flops coming…

    But my hope is McCain (for all his faults) comes out as a big proponent of this, acknowledges the technological advances in keeping drilling safe/clean, and the need to stop the insanity of $4+/gallon gas, rising food costs, and energy prices.

    The American people will look favorably on those who ease the burden on their pocketbooks.

  10. #375036
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:44 am, radio relay said:

    Well, finally!!!

    Someone in “leadership” is realizing the futility of tilting at windmills!

  11. #375042
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:47 am, Pat said:

    Sign it, Bush!

    I hope this is not some kabuki dance and we end up just where we began. Read Carter’s 1979 malaise speech, and see that we are in exactly the same predicament on energy now as then. Nothing has been done in 30 years–IMO because the pols are seduced by oil money. The Arab princes may not be contributing to W’s library soon, but the people of America might.

  12. #375049
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:52 am, Barry F. said:

    Ball’s in your court, San Fran Nan…will you cry “hoax” again or get Congress off its collective arse and actually do something about energy independence now?

    Why do I have this feeling that Congress will continue to sit by and watch fuel prices continue to climb, instead of doing anything? Maybe I am just a pessimist. *sigh*

  13. #375052
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:54 am, englishqueen01 said:

    Why do I have this feeling that Congress will continue to sit by and watch fuel prices continue to climb, instead of doing anything? Maybe I am just a pessimist. *sigh*

    I thought about that. But if we hammer this issue – talk about it with your friends, families, co-workers – and know that bloggers and folks like Rush will be all over it, and I don’t see how Pelosi & Co. will be able to stall or vote down drilling now that Bush has essentially thrown down the gauntlet.

    My opinion is they’re screwed unless they vote in favor of drilling. As I said above, opportunity abounds for the GOP to acknowledge the importance of drilling and use it as a hammer to beat the hell out of the Democrats (John McCain, are you paying attention?)…

  14. #375055
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:55 am, Roman Con said:

    Cosmo,

    I see your polar bear skull, and raise you a baby seal! ;)

    Anyway, I am no constitutional lawyer, but as our dependence upon foreign oil is a national security issue, why can’t a sitting president bypass all of the EPA b.s. and lease the land to the oil companies so they can flippin’ drill? I mean, we can have something like Gitmo (which I wholeheartedly support – except they are too soft on the scumbags), but we can’t drill?

    Also, does anyone NOT see the potential revenue stream that the government would realize from leasing drilling rights in ANWR or offshore? Negotiate something whereby the oil companies pay a flat rate, plus an increase for the CPI, PLUS a percentage of the profits? Crimeny, McDonald’s can do this, but the U.S. cannot? Do this, and the Dummycrats can keep their stinking entitlement programs – there will be money POURING into the government coffers.

  15. #375056
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:56 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    After seven years our REPUBLICAN President shows he just may grow a pair. May; why a fully grown man feels he has to reach out to people on the wrong side of the issue is beyound me.

    But better late than never. If President Bush and Juan McCain were HALF as hard on Liberals as they are on Conservatives they might have some following. His father’s reaching out to Liberals gave us eight years of that Other Liberal family–the Pre Obamas.

    But stick with it Mr. President

    Drill here
    Drill now
    Don’t shoot a Liberal-I’ll get in trouble
    Pay less

    Ball’s in your court, San Fran Nan…will you cry “hoax” again or get Congress off its collective arse and actually do something about energy independence now?

    Threaten to ban Botox.

  16. #375058
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:57 am, ACHefty said:

    Let’s address this from several aspects. See here, here, and here. More to come.

    /shameless plug off

  17. #375059
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:57 am, twiggman said:

    What I want to know is why they ( the dimocrats)Keep saying it will take ten years to get it out of the ground ? Will someone talk to an oil person and see if this is true. I think maybe all the red tape that congress puts on them may cause that, but from the time they start to set up a drill til oil spouts can not take ten years…

  18. #375061
    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:57 am, trailortrash said:

    finally

  19. #375066
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:01 am, metalhead said:

    Don’t forget…for every dollar of revenue generated from these off-shore wells, the Federal Government will collect 16.67% in Royalties…a fact that seems to get lost in the discussion. This is in addition to any tax they may levy on the end products. So, if a field is projected to be worth One $Billion, the Federal Government stands to receive $167 Million (for doing nothing except leasing out the property). And let’s also not forget that they will have received a Bonus for leasing the property and possibly Rent on top of that. Maybe we can get a tax cut due to all the revenue being generated? (not holding my breath)

  20. #375067
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:02 am, davidleerothmann said:

    Just btw, Tim Mason’s family fortune was made…. get this… in the AUTO industry. That’s right. Tim’s granddaddy did all the polluting for cash, and now we can all just sit in the dark and freeze, or wait for the bus with the other little people.

  21. #375068
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:02 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    This will not be a quick fix, this much we know. But it’s a step in the right direction towards our energy independence. We have Chavez threatening to withhold oil, the President has to beg Saudis to increase production, enough. There is no better time than the present to start drilling. Unlike, amnesty, the American people will fully back this measure. Congress – do the right thing.

  22. #375069
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:03 am, beenthere said:

    Democrats are God’s curse on this country. They can think of nothing besides winning the coming election. They would literally sell the nation into slavery if they thought it would help them on election day. Thus the terrifying thought in the back of their collective minds: lift the ban and the oil bubble bursts and then . . . Nooo. It’s must not be, now or ever.

    Anyway, the democrats energy program is price controls and rationing. Always has been, always will be. Look for it January 21st.

  23. #375070
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:03 am, englishqueen01 said:

    What I want to know is why they ( the dimocrats)Keep saying it will take ten years to get it out of the ground ?

    Even if it does, oil is on prospects, and the news that oil is coming could positively affect the market sooner than 10 years from now.

  24. #375076
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:04 am, DanVanSmak said:

    Color me skeptical, but usually things *don’t* get done in an election year. Were this not an election year, I *think* even $5/gallon gas wouldn’t get this ban lifted.

    We’ll see. If the polls say that Americans want us to drill (and I believe they do), then maybe — just maybe — it will happen. But then again, our politicians do know best, don’t they? Yeah, right. *out*

  25. #375077
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:05 am, madchef said:

    Wow, good news on a monday morning, cool! Now the ball is your court Nancy & Harry, whatcha going to do?

  26. #375078
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:05 am, Blind_Mule said:

    It’s about time Mr. President,
    Congress will lift the ban in 3, 2, 1……… crickets, chirp, chirp, chirp
    I don’t have a problem with keeping the enviroment clean and pristine but the technology exist to do exactly that.
    As for the environitwits, they are the cause of our energy problems amongst other things like dangerous mercury filled light bulbs. These people do not care they would rather we all use candles and drive horse and buggies. Environitwits is the perfect term along with moonbat’s, libtard’s, tree huggers etc…..

  27. #375088
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:13 am, Fat Tone said:

    Will Pelosi call Bush a “hoax ” ?

  28. #375092
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:15 am, tropicalwave12 said:

    That sound you just heard was a national sigh of relief. Finally the president stands on principles. The next sound you will be hearing is all of the hot air leaving the senate floor which makes a sucking sound like a vacuum. Much like the sound you might here in a uh.. &*(^@& Hole!

    Oh and I’d drill through the skull of a liberal to get the oil we need, we may need to do just that. Any one up for some brain surgery.

  29. #375110
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:24 am, DogBreath said:

    ‘Bout time although thirty-five years late.

    Now, how about those nuclear power plants?

  30. #375112
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:26 am, Gabe said:

    I can’t imagine Dems being so stupid–actually I can–that they would not allow for off shore drilling when we are paying $4.00 a gallon for gas.

    Let’s see: The pro-Arab party of the Dems doesn’t like American coal, oil, nuclear power . . .anything that would make us energy independent from Muslim barbarians in the Middle East.

    “Drill here, drill now, pay less.” But the Dems want us to never drill, never be energy independent, and always be held hostage by Muslims in the Middle East.

    I wonder how the MSM is going to spin this refusal by the liberals in Congress to allow for off shore oil drilling.

  31. #375114
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:27 am, DBNinKY said:

    Until they are certain they have drained every last drop of use of the nation’s energy crisis as a weapon against Republicans, Pelosi and the Dems will never ever do anything to lessen our dependence on foreign oil.

    It would hurt their party – even though it would greatly benefit their constituents who unexplainedly keep reelecting them – and that is against a Democrat’s nature.

  32. #375116
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:28 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:55 am, Roman Con said:
    Anyway, I am no constitutional lawyer, but as our dependence upon foreign oil is a national security issue, why can’t a sitting president bypass all of the EPA b.s. and lease the land to the oil companies so they can flippin’ drill? I mean, we can have something like Gitmo (which I wholeheartedly support – except they are too soft on the scumbags), but we can’t drill?

    As you can see from the article, it is NOT all the EPA’s doing. You can still buy find a judge to stop drilling. You just have to find a liberal one and there are plenty to find. This is part of the reason why refineries are not being built. Too many complaints filed against a project to make it worth while. Even if you get close enough to building a refinery, there will ALWAYS be one judge who can still shut it down and that my friends is a crime.

  33. #375121
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:30 am, sambo said:

    twiggman said:
    What I want to know is why they ( the dimocrats)Keep saying it will take ten years to get it out of the ground ? Will someone talk to an oil person and see if this is true. I think maybe all the red tape that congress puts on them may cause that, but from the time they start to set up a drill til oil spouts can not take ten years…

    I’ve seen an interview with a oil man being asked that exact question. It all comes down to infastructure. If it’s already there he said they can produce oil in a year or less. Think Florida’s gulf cost.

  34. #375123
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:32 am, IndependentTom said:

    I believe this is just more “feel good” news. If President Bush rescinds former President Clinton’s ban on low-sulfur coal mining (which Clinton did as payback to Phillipine contributors) then I MIGHT believe that someone in government is serious about solving our oil problem. Talk is cheap.

  35. #375126
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:34 am, Surveyor said:

    Good for him. Nanny Franny and her merry band of losers should step up to the plate now…but….she won’t and they won’t.

    Problems remain however. We can take all the oil we want from the ground…but if we don’t start building refineries at the same time were building off-shore oil rigs….then we will be stuck with millions of barrels of oil that we can’t use. Sure…just putting oil out into the market can bring prices down some…but that would defeat the purpose of getting away from the cartel structure. I think the refineries getting built will be the tougher of the two hurdles.

  36. #375131
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:36 am, lgm said:

    Typical Bush: a show that does nothing.

    I know how to save gas: all you conservatives can learn to ride the bus like we do in New York and San Francisco.

  37. #375132
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:37 am, Thunder_Run said:

    The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the – Web Reconnaissance for 07/14/2008 A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day…so check back often.

  38. #375134
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:37 am, Gabe said:

    Why do I have this feeling that Congress will continue to sit by and watch fuel prices continue to climb, instead of doing anything? Maybe I am just a pessimist. *sigh*

    Barry F,

    They are hoping that the average American who is too busy to really follow politics and who only get their news from the networks will blame Republicans for the gas prices. . .instead of the Dems in Congress.

    Also, Democrats LOVE higher prices for energy because they hope that it slows consumption. Of course, they can’t come right out and say it.

    HOPEFULLY, McCain and the RNC will be running ads blaming Dems for the gas prices and pressure will mount on Congress to allow for off shore oil drilling.

    I’m starting to think that McCain will win in a landslide, considering the “leadership” on the Democrats in Congress and their being tricked into nominating the idiotic Obama who is going to self-destruct this summer. Let’s guess how many positions Obama is going to take on off shore drilling.

  39. #375137
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:38 am, twiggman said:

    Thanks sambo…

  40. #375138
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:38 am, JT said:

    Libs are hurting the very people they pretend to care about. Not just the middle class, but other people who are struggling. Food pantry and food kitchen donations are down in my area. When food and energy prices go up, people donate less. The Supermarket I shop at has cut worker hours, no overtime for anyone. Restaurants are struggling. Other blue collar jobs and hours are being cut in my area.

    What about the rural areas without major mass transit? The people that have to drive to major cities for treatment like chemotherapy.

    Just wait until it gets cold in the North. People are doing w/o air conditioning, but will they pick heat over food and medicine in the winter.

    I saw my first big air conditioning bill for June. I rationed, haven’t cooled every room, turned it off when I left the house, and I was still shocked vs. the same bill last year.

    Either liberals don’t have any common sense or they just don’t care. I think the elitists don’t care and their base has no common sense.

  41. #375139
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:39 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    lgm said:

    Typical Bush: a show that does nothing.

    I know how to save gas: all you conservatives can learn to ride the bus like we do in New York and San Francisco.

    lgm you’re right. You must be a lightworker.

  42. #375146
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:43 am, Gabe said:

    Typical Bush: a show that does nothing.

    I know how to save gas: all you conservatives can learn to ride the bus like we do in New York and San Francisco.

    Typical clueless arrogance by the lgm, who assumes that EVERYONE lives in a city and can take the bus or subway. Therefore, higher prices are actually good for him.

    LGM, how is a “bus” going to help a teacher who lives in the suburbs and has to drive to a school in the suburbs? They assume that there are bus stops on every street and these buses go to every corner of the suburbs. No, buses and subways go from the suburbs to downtown.

    Sorry, cars are not going to be obsolete ever. Yet lgm’s comment reflects the total non-reality that liberals live in.

  43. #375148
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:44 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Not holding my breath…

    This is, of course, THE do-nothing congress.

    And idiots keep re-electing posers like Nancy Pelosi.

  44. #375150
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:45 am, englishqueen01 said:

    I know how to save gas: all you conservatives can learn to ride the bus like we do in New York and San Francisco.

    lgm shows his typical liberal arrogance. Not every city is, nor can it afford to, be laid out like San Fran or NY.

    Why is it liberals have no problem telling people how to travel/eat/heat their homes but have a fit when a state votes on something like marriage, abortion, or other issues liberals support as “rights”?

    I know how liberals can save the planet, too: they can shut the hell up and stop filling the atmosphere with their hot air.

    lgm: Until you start paying my bills and managing my household*, you have no right to tell me how to live. And you certainly have no right to support policies that financially punish me or others for not fitting in to your worldview.

    *And no liberal will take over my household until they pry it from my cold, dead hands.

  45. #375153
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:46 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    LGM

    I’ve ridden on buses here in MPLS/St Paul…. no thank you… I’d be arrested for defending myself.
    Bus lines and light rail …. forms of welfare and entitlement.

  46. #375154
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:46 am, DogBreath said:

    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:36 am, lgm said:

    I know how to save gas: all you conservatives can learn to ride the bus like we do in New York and San Francisco.

    Why don’t you walk barefoot instead of burning irreplacable hydrocarbons you capitalist swine.

  47. #375156
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:47 am, mngirl said:

    Thank goodness! Some common sense seeping into the White House. I could not understand how you throw down the gauntlet to Congress saying “when you move, I’ll move”.

    Now, what about ANWR? Open it up baby!

  48. #375157
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:48 am, alaskangrizzly said:

    lgm lives in a bubble where everyone lives in a big city with a subway or effective bus use. Can we get someone to airlift him north of Fairbanks, Alaska and leave him with a snowmobile with no gas in it (since gas is evil)? Good luck with the polar bears, since you liberals are all anti-gun and all.

  49. #375159
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:49 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    I know how to save gas: all you conservatives can learn to ride the bus like we do in New York and San Francisco.

    Both places are such fine examples of how we should all live. *rolls eyes*

    No offense to the (common sense)posters here who live in either city.

  50. #375160
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:49 am, Fat Jolly Penguin said:

    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:36 am, lgm said:

    Typical Bush: a show that does nothing.

    I know how to save gas: all you conservatives can learn to ride the bus like we do in New York and San Francisco.

    You invented a bus that runs on… nothing? Do share.

  51. #375165
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:50 am, letget said:

    This is good news, but the dems will give the same old crud, “the oil companies have millions of acres they aren’t drilling on now” and “it will take ten years to get the oil to us”. I’m not holding my breath either for any action soon. I sure hope I am wrong.
    L

  52. #375166
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:51 am, JT said:

    lgm,

    You are sanctimonious douche bag. Have you ever traveled outside your moonbat citified enclaves?

    America is much more than the the jerkoffs that live in or near NYC and SF. And they are much better human beings too then your average liberal city rat (read lgm).

  53. #375170
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:53 am, John Ansell said:

    Drill Here,
    Drill Now,
    Screw Saudi Arabia

  54. #375171
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:55 am, Barry F. said:

    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:36 am, lgm said:
    Typical Bush: a show that does nothing.

    I know how to save gas: all you conservatives can learn to ride the bus like we do in New York and San Francisco.

    You dufus troll! There are more than just urban-dwellers in our country. Do you ever stop to think, before you open you rmouth and stick you foot in it?! There is no public transit system in the rural or, even, many suburban areas. Geez! :roll:

  55. #375172
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:55 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:36 am, lgm said:
    Typical Bush: a show that does nothing.

    I know how to save gas: all you conservatives can learn to ride the bus like we do in New York and San Francisco.

    We are sure if your god, Obama, were to take office in January, you would have the same reaction if he removed the ban? No, you would not because you are the worst kind of hypocrite.

    Do you know how much it would cost our county to run bus service that hardly anyone would use? There would be no fuel saving costs as so few would ride the buses that would be running around in circles waiting to pick up one or two people. Hey, but you say it will save fuel and money so, it MUST be true.

    Lastly. Did you hear about Tony Snow? I see you did not leave a post about this great man you coward. The fact is, you and Rusty never give respect to anyone on the conservative side of the aisle. You make us all sick.

    Please, go away with your idiot posts.

  56. #375174
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:56 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Good morning lgm, we see you are on the wrong side again; consistency is a virtue I suppose.

    On July 14th, 2008 at 10:57 am, twiggman said:
    What I want to know is why they ( the dimocrats)Keep saying it will take ten years to get it out of the ground ?

    There are fields that may indeed take ten years. I imagine that there are others that may well take less. But the point is we need to start several years ago. WE CAN achieve energy independence IF we run over the nay sayers, OPEC flunkies and traitors.

    There are all too many people in this country who do not have our people’s best interest at heart and must not be given credence.

  57. #375175
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:56 am, Azygos said:

    Typical Bush: a show that does nothing.

    I know how to save gas: all you conservatives can learn to ride the bus like we do in New York and San Francisco.

    Idiot just does not seem adequate. Here in Phoenix we are busy building a 5 billion dollar light rail to nowhere. This suburban area of 6 million people does not have a centralized business district. I work in a different office everyday spending $16 to $20 dollars daily for gas.

    lgm,
    If you want to cram yourself into a bus with a bunch of people more suited for studies in antipsychotic use go for it. I’m going to continue to drive my car, alone.

    And tell me how does riding a bus produce more oil or refined gasoline?

  58. #375176
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:57 am, tropicalwave12 said:

    You invented a bus that runs on… nothing

    If we could just harness the power of the “Do-nothing” congress, this would be ingenious! Simply Genious

  59. #375177
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:58 am, gayle said:

    lgm; Oh thou great one,

    SHUTUP.

  60. #375179
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:59 am, Barry F. said:

    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:43 am, Gabe said:

    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:45 am, englishqueen01 said:

    Heh! I see others took lgm to task, before I did, on the nonexistent public transit offerings outside of urban areas. :lol:

  61. #375180
    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:59 am, conservativehomeschooler said:

    Arizona Neanderthal said:

    Threaten to ban Botox.

    ROFLOL! Love that one!

    Yay for President Bush! I won’t look a gift horse in the mouth. Now for the dems! Ugh. My hopes are not so high on this one!

  62. #375181
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:00 pm, khan said:

    #36:

    We’re not looking to save gas; we’re looking to increase supply.

  63. #375183
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    Just look at Jonathan Goodman aka: lgm, I’m suprised he is not in Beserkly setting in a tree. I have a question lgm did you ride the bus to the beach? and why are you standing on it any way, you might be trampling on some endangered sand flee.

  64. #375186
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, Azygos said:

    I’m guessing lgm rides the “short bus.”

  65. #375189
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, John Ansell said:

    LOL Blind Mule

  66. #375194
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, Azygos said:

    I’m guessing lgm rides the “short bus.”

    It would be terrible disservice to disabled children to make them ride on a bus with the likes of lgm.

  67. #375196
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, DogBreath said:

    Looks like LGM has accomplished the mission for today of making a public spectacle of himself. Nearby in Olympia, WA we have idiots participating in the Procession of Species each year. Same type of “Look at me everyone!” mentality.

  68. #375206
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:14 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    You know, I have never been able to understand lgm wearing a YMCA shirt in that pic on his site. Has the Young Men’s Christian Association gotten away from its roots to attract the likes of lgm?

  69. #375207
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, JT said:

    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    Just look at Jonathan Goodman aka: lgm, I’m suprised he is not in Beserkly setting in a tree. I have a question lgm did you ride the bus to the beach? and why are you standing on it any way, you might be trampling on some endangered sand flee.

    Blind_Mule you rock!

    The pic explains a lot. He looks exactly like a the Profs I had to lie to in order keep my good grades. You know pretend to be liberal so I won’t get a bad grade.

    lgm is what is wrong with higher education. And Math teachers used to be moderate to conservative.

  70. #375216
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:18 pm, radio relay said:

    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:36 am, lgm said:

    I know how to save gas: all you conservatives can learn to ride the bus like we do in New York and San Francisco.

    You bet lgm! We’ll just load up the bus with everything we need to stock up your local supermarket. That’s how they do it in San Fran, so I hear. Saves loads of money on diesel. Hope the other passengers don’t mind.

  71. #375219
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, IndependentTom said:

    Here in Colorado we actually have tracks that run the front range from the southern border all the way up to Ft. Collins. But putting in a train in that area is too expensive.

    We will, however, be installing mass transit on the highway 70 corridor. After all, we can’t have the Denverites waiting in traffic on their weekend ski trips to Aspen and Breckenridge can we?

  72. #375222
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:22 pm, RobM1981 said:

    I think I’ll write a book about the US Government from 2000 to 2008 (and probably 2012). Potential titles:

    Profiles in Cowardice

    How To Beggar Thy Own Children

    Hating America (Oh, Sorry, that’s for my Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi tribute)

    No Child Left To Excel

    How To P*ss-Away Success: GW Bush and a Republican Congress

    Appeasement, and Other RINO Habits

    Corruption: It Sure Beats Working For A Living

    Singapore, Qatar, China, UAE, the EU, and Other Great Places To Borrow Money From

    Bailout: My Life As A Fighter Pilot and President

    The Search For Intelligent Life In Government (That’s my novel – pure science fiction)

    I’m sure people here can think of more titles…

  73. #375242
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, sonofdy said:

    LGM, Why can’t I take the bus? How about because THERE ARE NO BUSES RUNNING HERE. Typical liberal idiot has no idea what the country is like outside of thier own cities.

  74. #375246
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:37 pm, palani said:

    ‘Bout time. However, in typical liberal reactionary fashion, Reuters qualifies the order as “a largely symbolic move unlikely to have any short-term impact on the high cost of gasoline.”

    Because nothing we do will impact supply (and prices) tomorrow, we should do nothing – at least that’s what the democrat consensus seems to be.

  75. #375250
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:39 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    LGM, Why can’t I take the bus? How about because THERE ARE NO BUSES RUNNING HERE. Typical liberal idiot has no idea what the country is like outside of thier own cities.

    Which long supports my notion a liberal’s idea of ‘equality’ and ‘green living’ is smashing everyone together in sub-standard housing, in cramped, crime-infested cities. Redistribute the wealth and their communist dream is a reality.

  76. #375254
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, sonofdy said:

    Hey LGM, I need a ride to the store. When will you and your bus be here to pick me up?????

    Waiting….

  77. #375257
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:45 pm, sonofdy said:

    Because nothing we do will impact supply (and prices) tomorrow, we should do nothing – at least that’s what the democrat consensus seems to be.

    Well I would disagree, thier solution seems to be to develop a fuel source that almost none of the 1 billion cars in america will run on, and will actualy take longer and cost more than just drilling more oil. AKA a dumbass move

  78. #375261
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:48 pm, atheling said:

    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:36 am, lgm said:

    Typical Bush: a show that does nothing.

    I know how to save gas: all you conservatives can learn to ride the bus like we do in New York and San Francisco.

    Typical Bush Congress: a show that does nothing.

    There. Fixed it.

    lgm: Still have not heard anything from you apologizing for lying about Cindy McCain, who has done more for the poor than Michelle Obama ever has.

    Your idiotic statement only proves how little you know about America. Why don’t you move to Europe? I hear they have tons of public transportation there. I’m fed up with you libtards trying to destroy this country.

    Now go throw yourself under that bus Obama’s driving.

  79. #375262
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:48 pm, Ahh a Lion! said:

    I’m happy that Bush has finally done something positive, outsourcing everything has been this country’s MO for far too long. The unfortunate part of this? It will do nothing for oil prices. With real inflation running around 10-12% and the value of the dollar crashing, commodities are the most sensitive. We are going to see (conservatively) $200 oil before any of the fundamentals of this drilling start factoring into price. We also have to remember that oil is a global commodity, and many other countries with strong currencies and robust production will be consuming even more.

  80. #375265
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:49 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    lgm said:
    I know how to save gas: all you conservatives can learn to ride the bus like we do in New York and San Francisco.

    You ride the bus in San Francisco AND New York? How do you get between the two, walk?

    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:59 am, conservativehomeschooler said:

    Arizona Neanderthal said:

    Threaten to ban Botox.

    ROFLOL! Love that one!

    Thank you conservativehomeschooler, I always did enjoy my own jokes.

    Azygos said:
    Idiot just does not seem adequate. Here in Phoenix we are busy building a 5 billion dollar light rail to nowhere. This suburban area of 6 million people does not have a centralized business district.

    The Valley does not have a centralized business district, the trains have not started running but they HAVE replaced 25% of the rail. Nobody told them that it gets hot in Phoenix, but who knew? And Lightrail will not go to the air port, the heaviest traffic area in the whole Valley. The Sky Harbor International Airport Authorite’s second largest source of income is parking fees.

  81. #375269
    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:59 pm, madchef said:

    One of the reasons that the Sierra club blocked the exploratory drilling in Mi. was because a warbler nested in the area. A FREAKING bird! Next time someone should set a small forest fire in the area to run the critters out. No trees, no nests. People have to come first!!

  82. #375273
    On July 14th, 2008 at 1:03 pm, Bear said:

    If an oil drill rig can get to the location, the time for setup to completion of the well may be a few weeks or less. Of course the final depth of the well determines the time required.

    Should drilling be done from platforms, from remote land areas the time frame will be much longer. And then how long will it take to get the oil from the producing well to the refinery can take years, i.e. the Alaska Pipe Line was not built in a day!

  83. #375278
    On July 14th, 2008 at 1:06 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    Savoy Exploration of Traverse City for years wanted to slant drill a new well beneath the sprawling, scenic Mason Tract from a nearby spot on federal forestland. A pipeline and production facility would be installed if gas is found.

    The suit questioned whether the U.S. government performed an adequate environmental assessment of the proposed drilling and if all mineral lease laws were followed.

    WTF? We need to perform an environmental assessment for underground drilling?!?

    Whose habit is threatened? Moles? CHUD?

  84. #375280
    On July 14th, 2008 at 1:08 pm, sonofdy said:

    BEAR, true, however this same argument was made 10 years ago and if we had drilled then we would not be in this mess today. We can’t keep on not drilling just because it will take a while.

  85. #375281
    On July 14th, 2008 at 1:08 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    On July 14th, 2008 at 12:59 pm, madchef said:
    One of the reasons that the Sierra club blocked the exploratory drilling in Mi. was because a warbler nested in the area. A FREAKING bird! Next time someone should set a small forest fire in the area to run the critters out. No trees, no nests. People have to come first!!

    What’s crazy is that warblers–like smelly Berkeley chicks–live in trees. Since when are we drilling in trees?

  86. #375284
    On July 14th, 2008 at 1:09 pm, lgm said:

    MNUSMCDavid said (#54):

    Bus lines and light rail …. forms of welfare and entitlement.

    Taxes pay for roads, too.

    Azygos said (#57):

    If you want to cram yourself into a bus with a bunch of people more suited for studies in antipsychotic use go for it. I’m going to continue to drive my car, alone.

    Those who fit and have to social skills to ride the bus with their fellow citizens can solve the gas crisis. The fat “elites” can whine.

    sonofdy said (#73):

    Why can’t I take the bus? How about because THERE ARE NO BUSES RUNNING HERE.

    Investment in public transportation infrastructure looks like a better idea now than it used to. There’s also “urban planning” — designing cities and suburbs to make public transportation practical.

  87. #375286
    On July 14th, 2008 at 1:10 pm, right_on said:

    You ride the bus in San Francisco AND New York? How do you get between the two, walk?

    Most likely on the back of a fellow heterosexually oppressed manipulative oligarchist….yeee-haaaa!

  88. #375293
    On July 14th, 2008 at 1:15 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    The fat “elites” can whine.

    That’s no way to talk about the Democratic majority in Congress. They’ve earned their 9% approval rating. How dare you?

  89. #375294
    On July 14th, 2008 at 1:15 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Investment in public transportation infrastructure looks like a better idea now than it used to. There’s also “urban planning” — designing cities and suburbs to make public transportation practical.

    That probably made much more sense in your head.

  90. #375295
    On July 14th, 2008 at 1:16 pm, josetheguerilla said:

    It’s about time President Bush lifted the ban. He passed the ball to Congress. Congress is damned if they do and damned if they don’t. If they lift the Congressional ban, they will tick off their wacko base. If they don’t gas will continue to go up and up.

    The last time I looked the Democratic leadership was not taking the bus.
    Goracle flies his leer jet, while snoboma rides in his SUV. They want everybody else to ride in a bus.

    The guerilla

  91. #375296
    On July 14th, 2008 at 1:16 pm, madchef said:

    Die Hippie, Die #85 Said
    “What’s crazy is that warblers–like smelly Berkeley chicks–live in trees. Since when are we drilling in trees?”

    What got me was they were only going to clear 3.5 acres to explore out of a 17,000 acre forest. I’m sure the bird would move to another tree. It’s crazy!

  92. #375297
    On July 14th, 2008 at 1:16 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    It seems that EVERY OTHER COUNTY IN THE W_O_R_L_D is drilling off our- U.S.- SHORES!!!!

    Our politicians are just either DUMB or total Socialist “weinies”.

    http://www.investors.com/editorial/cartoons/CartoonPopUp.aspx?id=298237486181616

  93. #375298
    On July 14th, 2008 at 1:16 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 14th, 2008 at 1:09 pm, lgm said:

    It still doesn’t help in the rural areas of American, nimrod. I realize you are an urban liberal but you should also take account that there are still rural portions of our country, which are not conducive to public transit systems, buses, rail systems or otherwise, because of the substantial geographic area they encompass.

  94. #375299
    On July 14th, 2008 at 1:16 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    It would be fun if an oil company decided to play chicken with Congress. Just showed up with a drilling platform and started to drill…

  95. #375301
    On July 14th, 2008 at 1:17 pm, jsr said:

    On July 14th, 2008 at 11:36 am, lgm said:

    I know how to save gas: all you conservatives can learn to ride the bus like we do in New York and San Francisco.

    lgm is right. I’m going to start taking the the bus and cutting my electric use just like Al Gore.

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