McCain at The Race conference: Capitulation complete; Update: Juan Hernandez to broker meeting with Morones?
As expected, John McCain’s appearance at the annual convention of La Raza/The Race yielded no Hermana Souljah moments. Ed Morrissey points to McCain’s mild, almost apologetic rejoinder to open-borders zealot Enrique Morones and compares it to Barack Obama’s embrace of the radical activist. That’s a relief. But it’s the very least we could expect of a Republican candidate. And when you watch the clip Ed posted, you’ll notice that in response to Morones blasting our Border Patrol agents as killers, there is not an explicit word of support from McCain for the thousands of men and women who try to enforce our immigration laws–men and women Barack Obama accuses of terrorism. Instead, McCain echoes Morones and La Raza’s talking points about the need for “humane” and “compassionate” enforcement and commits himself to “stop the inhumane raids.”
Translation: No enforcement.
For a stark illustration of McCain’s double talk at La Raza/The Race yesterday, here he is telling an audience member that he’ll support the DREAM Act–after telling conservative bloggers that he would have voted no on cloture for the bill “because he ‘got the message’ this summer that Americans want the border secured before we ‘go on to the rest.’” Uh-huh. McCain was AWOL for that cloture vote last October. He was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act.
I’d say my pre-event translation yesterday was dead on.
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Allah begs to differ with me on McCain and the DREAM Act. Gabriel at Ace thinks I’ve been “taken in.”
Yes, I know what McCain said in the rest of his answer, not shown on the clip, about securing the border first. Anyone who believe that is the one who’s being taken in. He led conservatives to believe that he opposed it. He told his friends at La Raza that he supports it. All the rest is noise.
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Reader Edgar M. e-mails:
On a Mexican radio program on 1420 AM in Tijuana hosted by Odilon Garcia, Morones called in and gave more information on what Morones and McCain talked about after their public conversation took place.
Morones told Garcia that while McCain was talking on the microphone about the fact that drug smugglers are using migrants to cross over illegal drugs, Morones told him that the United States should stop the demand for illegal drugs.
After McCain ended his Q and A session, Morones and McCain spoke face to face and McCain told him about the need for Border Security. Morones asked the Senator to meet with him privately without cameras so Enrique could make the point that Immigration raids are “separating families” and border walls are “killing immigrants”. He told the Senator to ask Enrique’s good friend Juan Hernandez, whom Enrique had dinner the night before, to set up the private meeting. McCain told him that he would. Enrique said that he would ask McCain to sign an executive order to stop Immigration raids.
Enrique then adds, that he called Juan Hernandez about the mistake the McCain campaign is doing by portraying the picture of John McCain with the image of the Virgin of Guadalupe in the background at the NCLR convention. Morones then told the story that on Saturday some students called him at the convention that they were upset with the McCain booth having a picture of Senator McCain with the Virgin of Guadalupe because the senator was using the image of the virgin for political purposes. One of the students took the picture and ran away. Some security officers ran off and caught the student but that the picture was not hung back. The next day the picture was not seen and Morones called that a victory.
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I trust McCain on Immigration in about the same level of Trust I would have with Bill Clinton Alone with my daughter.
Gee, sorry, just always wanted to do that.
I dunno. I guess this is a popular “blog” for some but La Raza is becoming to Malkin what Islam is to LGF - and obsession. And it’s becoming a rather boring one at that.
Just one man’s opinion.
He is correct if by ‘going on to the rest’ he means deportation.
Otherwise, WRONG !
Slimy Bill, we will lose this issue and be inundated with users of the system instead of payers into the system if we don’t continue to voice an opinion.
The MSM is hoping we will lose interest. I don’t intend to go down without a fight no matter how long it takes.
McCain might as well attend a clan rally. La Raza is a supremacist group determined to rule the United States or a chunk of it, they must be destroyed.
If someone doesn’t like it why don’t they just go away instead of trolling around and making life unpleasant? There are issues I disagree with Michelle about here or do not agree with Charles on at LGF but I simply state my position and “Move On” if it is important to me. Otherwise I keep quiet. If I found the focus of the site and the users unpleasant I would stay away. What is this emotional disease that leads some people to be abusive to strangers on the internet? This is the conduct that people should grow out of by the time they leave High School. It may help if site moderators were more proactive at identifying these people and removing them.
Anyone who chooses to identify themselves with a name like SlimyBill has already waved a flag that they need professional help.
Just caught a new McCain campaign ad touting the “God’s Children” angle…
He even has the audacity to use images of The Wall, and relate amnesty to serving in the military.
I totally agree that those who serve in the military deserve full citizenship, immediately!!! HOWEVER… that does not transfer over to all the other illegals who not only don’t serve, but disrespect this country!
I guess all of us legal citizens are the “devil’s children”
It is sure starting to feel that way radio relay..
Did you all catch Dana Rohrabacher (R) CA. on Fox News last night. He is for deporting Illegal Aliens even if we have already put them through school. He talked about how many billions Calif. has spent on these people. He needs a BIG Thank You for his attitude.
My senators, Obama and Durbin ‘respectfully’ disagree with me on this issue. PUKES
We legal citizens haven’t counted for much. So many times our opinions have been ignored because the clowns in washington Right now, they believe that taking care of law breakers is in our best interest.
re: Just one man’s opinion
Wow SlimyBill #3, don’t so underrate yourself, but then perhaps you are the type who misses his boat because he’s at the airport when it comes in. Sounds like your at the wrong place again posting your thoughts here.
Sorry that post was botched. It should be - the clowns in washington believe they know what’s best for us.
I have already had two calls this morning asking for money for McAmnesty. I explained very carefully my position on this and one of the guys got so mad he slammed the phone down. McCain does not want to appeal to the voters who don’t want illegals to stay.
Get used to this people: as the minority constituency continues to have 5-6 babies a family, the Republicans will have 2 choices: pander like shameless Democrats to get votes to stay in power; or abide by conservative principles and lose election after election. McFraud, the spineless RINO, obviously has chosen #1.
My problem with all this, beyond sovereignty etc., is that it will encourage lawlessness on all sides. With the self-inflicted decline of our nation - caused by our own government - an insecure and fearful populace will fight back on it’s own.
If the politicians do not get control of their reckless spending whether on wars or social programs, we will only accelerate our decline. Notice how the world markets are unimpressed with the Feds proposal on Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae? A $14 trillion debt is guaranteed disaster. And McCain/Obama et al are concerned about the illegal invaders.
Please God, save us from ourselves.
Wha?
Which one is a more humane form of securing our border: 0.50BMG rounds or the more common 5.56X45 NATO rounds?
If we CLOSE the border EFFECTIVELY, the illegals will stop trying to cross it, and these issues will go away.
I’m sorry, but McCain can say whatever he wants to whom ever he wishes, and I will still vote for him - this nation cannot risk having BHO’s liberal policies and world-vision become law: the results would be too detrimental to our economic and national security and may take generations for us to recover.
Wait a minute! I’ve been advised (by my “hold your nose” R. friends)that Mc was the candidate who was going to protect us from another 9/11.
An unsecured border will enable ANY one with a suit case bomb to enter the U.S.
L_O_T_E –anyone>>>
Well said. That is exactly what is happening. I would add, continued mass immigration of hispanics (legal and illegal) is the primary driver of their growth (see NumbersUSA for a great overview of this phenomenon). But baby making is a close second. However, a simple change in immigraiton policy, combined with attrition of illegals, would go a long way to slowing or stopping the seemingly inevitable move to socialism of the country. Face it. Very few recent hispanic immigrants are going to support a conservative platform of low taxes and personal repsonsibility as long as the Dems promise them everything. They are the picture perfect Democrat base (poor and uneducated). And the fools in the republican party have chosen not to combat the obvious ploy by dems to bring in new dem voters via immigration, and instead decided that pandering like dems is the key to victory. It is maddening that our leaders can’t see the train wreck coming to this country. This is the reason I see no choice except to leave the GOP and search for a new 3rd party. Because over the long run, without changes to current poicies and pandering, the country is doomed to a socialist high tax state where hate laws reign supreme and PC is the new and only faith. Sigh. Hate to be a bummer, but anyone who beleives we will change the disastrous course we are on under the 2 party system is a hopeless optimist or a fool. No ill will meant to conservatives, just the way I see it.
I, for one, have a “DREAM:” that I could stop worrying about illegals and terrorists pouring through a porous border, bringing eventual terrorism and very real diseases, such as measels, whooping cough, and tuberculosis to name a few.
These are very real diseases that are on the rise due to unrestricted border crossings. Read between the politically “correct” lines or talk to doctors confidentially.
They are still “God’s children” in Mexico or whatever country they are trying to get out of.
You said it. We can’t turn the country over to a green behind the ears (no ear joke intended), learning on the job liberal with zero credentials. Add to that the list of crazies he has as advisers, and you have a formula for utter disaster.
Carter II is a very real, very scary prospect.
You know this is a very ironic statement.
In my opinion, the best time to criticize McCain would have been during the republican primaries when it could have made a difference. Now that the majority of republican voters have chose McCain, what good does all of this do? If McCain reads this webpage and sees the errors of his ways, does a 180 on this issue and turns into a border enforcement hawk, then that would be awesome. Somehow I think that McCain is not a regular reader of this page. So what’s the point? He’s going to be the republican candidate against Obama. Attacks against him and exaggerations about what he says is seemingly having only one purpose, to piss people off and help convince them not to vote for McCain, helping to elect Obama. If someone disagrees with the republican nominee, shouldn’t they “keep quiet” until after the election, because we are now in the phase of the election where it is only a choice between two people, McCain and Obama?
Charles at LGF is focused on radical islam because he reads every news story about this and has educated himself on the real dangers this poses to the USA and the world. His worries are legitimate. It only seems to be obsessive because others don’t read the same disturbing news that he does.
Michelle here is also focused on illegal immigration and this issue is so very important to her because she also educates herself as to the real dangers this is to our country. People who are not familiar with this issue don’t see this as the threat to all of us because they are ignorant of the facts.
As important as the fight against illegal immigration is, I am looking at this issue in the stage that it is now in, the election of the next president. I would never tell people here to shut up and not harp on McCain, but in the same token, by your logic, I could call everyone who is speaking against McCain, ‘trolling’ because any negative news about McCain only hurts the republican candidate, and helps the democrat who wants to be the next president.
I agree with Michelle on the importance of this issue. I do have strong reservations as to what appears to be the goal to fighting with McCain over this issue and winning the battle of illegal immigration, and then losing the war and ending up with Obama. And what is he going to do about illegal immigration? It’s going to be worse with him than McCain. Not only with this, but everything else about an Obama presidency is going to be much worse. So what’s the plan? Get as many people upset about McCain and then when they don’t vote for him in droves, Obama becomes the next president?
I don’t see how losing this war can have any positive outcome. It’s going to be a disaster.
Without the likes of Michelle and a handful of others we would already have given the land to Mexico. We are certainly not going to be informed by MSM about the war going on at our border.I’m looking for confirmation on an item from Glenn Beck show about the security upgrades for border state hospitals due to large influx of wounded mexican officials. Any of you on the border?
Amen, Notice how quickly the “Free Market Capitalists” abandon the entire concept when it comes to bailing out companies and banks. How many free market Republicans embraced FannieMae and Freddie Mac and the Federal Reserve.
Now the slope is slippier and slippier. Soon they may bancrupt the country (which they avoid for now by devaluing the dollar).
I will be voting Libertarian this year.
What’s boring is a statement like this that offers no information what so ever. Just move along to blogs that don’t bore you.
And this deom a man who claims that Theodore Roosevelt is his political role model.
Roosevelt would have never even entertained the notion of speaking before a group so contrary to American values and survival. McCain’s views on illegal aliens are not in line with TR’s; they are the antithesis of everything Roosevelt stood for and spoke about.
“…from a man,,,”
I had a dream last night after watching Juan McAmnesty promising to give our nation away to his Mexican “friends”.
This is all part of a brilliant plan that he designed while in captivity in Viet Nam. He needed to keep his mind active and so he spent the years setting up a way to make the USA the strongest and safest country; he would return to lead the world with truth, justice and the American way!
He would get out of prison and slowly work himself into a position of power in the American government where he would pretend to pander to the enemies of America. He would become elected and suddenly rip open his shirt and show us the American Flag that had been tattooed on his chest while a prisoner and he would implement his brilliant plan to begin the dramatic changes that would make us a safe and prosperous nation once again. The borders would be secured and miscreants and evil doers would be eliminated, and his secret plan for American world dominance would be revealed.
This is why he refused early release while a prisoner… his wondrous plan for a American perfection had not yet been completed!!…
And then I woke up…
Yup, I’d like for him to as you say grow a pair and tell these folks they must obey our laws and he will work out a plan that can work, push obeying our laws and keep his promise to secure the border and devise a plan that just doesnt give all the law breaking illegals a free pass, get in line folks and OBEY OUR LAWS.
Michelle- Great job on Laura Ingraham.
I would love to see you hold conservative’s feet to the fire like Laura. She is supporting McCain with absolutely nothing in return.
This is a losing strategy for preserving Constitutional freedoms. A vote for McCain is a vote for dismantling any hope for elected conservative opposition.
Feel free to find another “blog” where they welcome Mexican bigots and Muslim extremists. In the meantime, sites like this one, LGF, MarkSteyn.com, HotAir, and many others will continue to keep the important issues at the forefront.
Where has Boomer been? He has such a way with words.
What the hell? What land to Mexico? How in your opinion would some part of the US be ‘given to mexico?’ A border state? How has Michelle and others stopped this from happening?
THANK YOU MICHELE!!!! Thank you,thank you, thank you! My anger has not dissipated at the absolute treasonous actions of these legislators who thumb their noses at Americans and the rule of law. I want Michele to continue to highlight these traitorous acts until the American people wake up to the fact that their country is being yanked out from underneath them!
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.cronica.com.mx/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=5&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Drelated:www.proceso.com.mx/noticia.html%253Fsec%253D0%26hl%3Den
Please note that Mexico’s government is in danger of collapse.
It makes me sick that voting my conscience will contribute to sending our country straight to Hell with the Obamessiah at the wheel, but I simply cannot bring myself to allow an anti-Dem vote to be construed as support for this shameful RINO. Bennett and Medved are pounding the meme that a vote for anyone but McCain is a vote for Obama, but McCain is simply unacceptable. Period. He fails even as the lesser of two evils. Who ever thought that we’d be sad that Hillary! wasn’t an option? That that criminal would be the most acceptable of these three shows just how pathetic our nation’s politics have become.
Sorry about the long link. But thankful for the tranlation by google. My second language was French. Who knew?
Laura does that as long as the guest is Pat “the Holocaust wasn’t Hitler’s fault it was ours” Buchanan.
Quite frankly it’s getting harder and harder to listen/respect these host that keep having that anti-semite on and don’t challenge his perverse statements.
If a land is occupied by a people other than the owners of the land, and the owners of the land do not contest the occupation, then that land maybe said to be lost to the invaders.
This is happening in California and other states as we speak.
I do agree with you that Michelle has NOT stopped this from happening. I don’t think anything will stop it.. but it is happening.
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On July 15th, 2008 at 8:42 am,
You are entitled to be as bored as you wish. You could ignore the subject. Now that wasn’t difficult at all, was it?
This unrestricted immigration is THE biggest threat to the safety of this country we face. Many thousands MORE of our citizens are being killed by the criminal gangs Mexico is dumping on us than by mohammedans. But deporting problems is cheaper than building prisons.
Unlike earlier generations of Mexican immigrants these people today have no intention of becoming Americans. They have been taught that the entire US west of the Mississippi is the Nation of Aztlan and that whites, blacks and asians have to leave.
So go ahead and be bored; have your bags packed.
http://www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html
Thanks for the link to the “LAUSD 5-YEAR DEMOGRAPHICS”. While it proves that there is a huge number of hispanic high school students in LA, it kinda doesn’t specify what percentage are illegals, or the children of illegals.
What truly amazes me that there are so many “Slimy Bill”s out there that do not see the heinous threat that Islam presents to us. This isn’t a joke! Sharia is real and is always brought into cultures slowly and surreptitiously. The same may be said for the La Raza and Aztlan philosophies….. so call me paranoid and obsessed… you’re damned right I am!
Teddy Roosevelt is his role model??? TR is rolling over in his grave… Could you imagine TR addressing such an ANTI-AMERICAN group as LA RAZA??? NO WAY!!! Every time OL’ JUAN moves in a direction to WOO my vote for him, he pulls another one of these MAJOR BLUNDERS. I am back to my original theory again, EMPLOYER SANCTIONS (enforced) or no VOTE… Again I say WE survived CARTER, we can survive anything!!!
If McCain will not be elected if he is as hostile to everyone as you want him to be. You guys (MM and echos) are far on the right of main stream America.
How tiring. Doesn’t everyone know that our political system is driven by constituencies? Those that can control or influence a voting block all must be patronized. Sucking-up is normal behavior for our bottom-feeding, self-serving servile flatters (aka politicians)
McCain can’t get me to vote for him, but Obama can. Chicago politicians are scary stuff. They like to control every little bitty thing. That would be us folks.
How would you know being your head is so far up your arse?
Yes, it was. Did you send a copy to our beloved NEW RNC web site? HMMM?
Folks,
It’s restating the obvious to us that we’re on our own w/regard to illegal immigrants. We’re stuck with McAmnesty, because the prospect of an Obama presidency is that much worse in virtually all aspects. The only thing we can do is flood the lines like we’ve had to do the last few times the amnesties have come up for consideration. It will require real activist work–just beating the liberals at their own game.
Securing the borders is one thing, but making interior enforcement is the key to relieving the border issue. It will require taking away sanctuary cities, the DREAM Act, benefits and education,a real change in tactics and numbers of agents to do the work–in short, a “surge,” if you will. Moreover, we need a comprehensive voter reform act that should, name-by-name, cleanse the registered voter list of these illegals. The corruption of our voting system must also be stopped, since this is one of the ultimate aims of the left. Companies will have to be heavily fined, if not shut down for hiring illegals. But all of this will have to be done at the legislative level to ensure action, and that will only have a chance at happening if we flood the lines constantly.
One more thing, the amount of paperwork required to deport people is staggering, and the software system used to do so is a horrid nightmare, causing the processing and removal of same to be very time-consuming, manpower-intensive. The process must be streamlined, but has actually been worsened since September 11. Something has gotta give in this regard to handle the sheer numbers.
Good Lord. What is it with “conservatives” who are so hell bent on getting Barry elected? We KNOW all about McCain-talk about the imperfect candidate. But what is the end game? Talk as many out of voting for him as possible? I’ll give the old SOB this much - he told the idiot he was talking with that he was going to close the border first. And he said it in hostile territory. Is he lying? Who knows. But he sure picked a strange place to make that stand if he is lying.
I’m still voting for McCain come November.
The numbers say it all: CLICK HERE
2007 black students: 11%
2007 white students 8% !!!
2007 Mexican students: 73% !!!
Call them legal, illegal or banannas… the facts don’t change. It is an invasion that is changing my way of life and I DON’T want change.
Hispanic or Latino =/= ‘mexicans.’
while there are a lot of illegals in the US, you need to provide a link that specifies what percentage is illegal and legal.
And if southern California is crawling with illegals, then they would be incapable of giving any land to mexico, as was originally commented at 9:48 by AuntiEm.
I am not refuting your claim about a whole lot of hispanics being in southern california.
Great post, Michelle. Keep ‘em coming!
I’m still not voting for McAmnesty come November.
lgm…how could you possibly know who main stream America is? Why don’t you take a bike ride down to East L.A. (or any of our big cities for that matter) after 8 p.m. and find out who main stream America isn’t first.
Oh…and take “Slimy Bill” with ya. Don’t forget to bring your spanish language dictionary so you can communicate with all the new friends you will meet.
McCain is deluding himself and expecting us to join him if he thinks he can straddle the fence on this issue when on the one hand a group of unappeasable ethnocentric foreign culturists will tolerate even a slow down in the flood of more of the them versus us entitlists and on the other hand the 80% of Americans who are vehemently adamant that the invasion must stop and people must come here with our permission or leave.
Americans must have the decision in this matter, not politicians and certainly not foreigners or their abettors.
Straddle the fence, get slivers in your crotch.
Actually, that’s not true. McCain never received more than 50% of the votes (majority of Republicans). He may have qualified as the Republican candidate, but a majority of Republicans did NOT vote for him.
And that is why he needs to convince all of us who didn’t vote for him, that we should vote for him. Instead, he takes us for granted and panders to the middle and left.
And I should add that nearly all conservatives DID criticize him during the primaries.
Just how in the hell would we know who is and who isn’t when no one is allowed to ask or keep such records?
What a coincidence! SlimyBill is bored and I’m bored with people like SlimyBill.
Must be nice living in an ivory tower. I also invite SlimyBill and those like him to come to my community. During the day my neighborhood looks like a nice place to live, but at night, don’t go walking without protection. Crime rates have more than tripled in my community. I stopped going to Walgreens because the store ads are all in Spanish. I even complained to no avail.
There’s an apartment complex whose name was “Westwood.” They’ve recently changed it to a Spanish name and their sign is now in Spanish.
I’m going today to vote for a new county commissioner. The lady I’m voting for wants to abolish all property taxes and enact a 1 cent tax increase. Her flyer stated this will force illegal aliens to pay their fair share. I agree.
As far as voting for John McCain, I’m still uncertain. I have plenty of time to see how things will go with regards to Iran. However, if I do vote for McCain, I will still work hard to stop this obsession of his in making illegals citizens.
The borders will be secured when the political cost of not doing so becomes prohibitive. In other words, when a lot of people die, so many in so short a time that the RINOs and the Dems will finally have to act or lose their precious power and privilege. That’s the big government game and it will never change.
Saying that McCain is better than Obama really isn’t saying much at all. Bush is better than Obama and just look at the state of the country (and the RINO party). It’s as if we had had back-to-back Carter-Johnson administrations.
One big problem with McCain is that no matter how hard he tries to distance himself from conservatives, a hypothetical President McCain will be viewed as a “right-wing” republican bozo-monster whenever disaster strikes this country. And looking over the next four years, there will be a lot of them. So guess who will profit? And guess who will have to take responsibility big time? No need to think hard about it at all. Imagine the vision of the 9/11 “truthers” multiplied a thousand times, screaming from every media outlet. That is the legacy the McCain administration would leave us. And at the end of it will there be a Reagan riding to the rescue? Get real. Reagan’s legacy vanished after four years of Bush the First anyway. It’s now only political nostalgia, like pining for the Coolidge administration to come back.
It is a horrible situation we face no matter how you slice it but I think it best to give the American people the government they deserve. McCain comes close, but it is Obama who really fits the bill.
And the majority of Americans didn’t vote for Bill Clinton because the vote was split between George Herbert Walker and Ross Perot. Bill Clinton became the president anyway. And McCain is going to be the republican candidate against Barack Obama. If more people voted for a conservative candidate, then we’d have a conservative candidate. The candidate I voted for lost. I am not going to write his name in this november, because I don’t want Obama to win.
And he won. And this is now a two man race between McCain and Obama. We are in the end phase of the election that is now past the primaries.
Regardless of who gets elected…we are sooooooooooo screwed!
If someone wants to make the case that there are a lot of illegals in the US (which is a fact, there are. millions of them, people esitmate) then it doesn’t make much sense to provide a link to southern california’s high school ethnic makeup as proof that all the hispanics there are illegal mexicans or whatever.
Actually, Mexicans are hispanic. Not all may be descended from Spain and Spanish peoples, but as a country and as a people, they are hispanic, as are the countries that speak Spanish.
And why must he provide a link to percentages?
Bravo.
Do libs like “lgm” even live in this country”? Or on this planet? And is “Slimy” a self-description of an open-borders fool?
You are missing my point. I DON’T CARE if they are illegal or not. I wish they were gone, they are changing this part of the country into another Mexico. It is a cancer that is going to spread across this nation.
You can go here Center for Immigration Studies.
One way of knowing the numbers is the fact that illegals have never been shy about using our social programs, i.e., food stamps, help with housing, education, etc.
Rob, Oops! too late.
You want to deport hispanic US citizens to mexico?
Whoa.
Like being a “citizen” makes a person something of value. There are a lot of gang members, taggers, child molesters, etc. that are “citizens”. I would get rid of them, along with the anchor babies.
But don’t worry, there is now no chance of me being listened to. I am now one of the “Last of the White Men” around here… Someday they will make a movie about us. In Spanish of course.
Rob,
I’m not sure if you’re just being off today, or if you’re just kind of xenophobic…
I have absolutely no problem with legal immigration, regardless of where they hail from originally.
My problem, and the one you might want to sensibly examine, is the illegal immigration problem.
Just saying “i want to get rid of hispanics, i dont care who they are” is at the very least callous and unnecessary…but has a rather distinct odor of racism about it if nothing else. I am usually loathe to use that word, but its seems to be applicable here.
You use the word racist as a weapon to intimidate. I am what I am. You want to label it with your politically correct word… then go ahead.
I want the good old days back. They won’t happen because of all the Mexicans that are here.
Now that they are outnumbering whites. I don’t want them here, all the non-assimilators, legal or illegal, and I don’t give a crap what you think.
annnnnnnnd right to the name calling. Good bye.
Just don’t get a gun and start murdering them, because that’s what it sounds like - you are one drunk evening away from doing at this point.
Morones is to McCain’s immigration policy as the guy on the penguin suit was to his global warming policy.
I look forward to a further shift left by McCain in the next few weeks on immigration. Of course, many will vote for him because he has an “R” next to his name. This is no way to pick a president, folks.
“It’s a shame one of them has to win.”
Mark Steyn on the ‘08 election
Many of us did, not enough obviously. But the Wednesday after the general election we need to go RINO hunting. There will be conservatives running in various primaries two years out. We need to support them and NOT the RNC, Congressional Republican Committee or the Senate Republican Committee. All three of those fund raisers are dedicated to the maintenance of the RINO-quo (yes, I made that up).
Support conservatives before the primaries. Join some kind of Conservative group that gives candidate rating and endorsements. Join several.
I got an e-mail last cycle from Gun Owners of America endorseing a pro Second Amendment candidate v a RINO in the primary. Lots of us supported him; he knocked off the RINO and went on to win the general.
Yes, the primaries are the time to go RINO hunting, no bag limit. (o;
In the meantime I will just panic. |o:
Remind me again, how McCan’t is any different than Nobama????
Don’t worry, she will. Authentic conservatives won’t forget when Obama wins the presidency either. Speaking of which, Where is the Obama goes to la raza to promise AUTHENTIC AMNESTY topic? Guess we only rail against Republicans here.
I would be interested in knowing what course of action is advocated here at the DNC sock-puppet theater by Michelle Malkin. What can all the anti-”shamnisty”(TM) people actually do other then allow the worse of 2 candidates to be elected?
Surely it must be obvious to all by now that both candidates aren’t strong on border enforcement. Perhaps it is time to advocate another course of action (because whining on the internet doesn’t seem to be getting the job done.) regarding immigration and vote for the better candidate on other issues?
Thanks for that softball pitch to leftists who want to paint everyone opposed to illegal immigration as Latino-hatin’ racists!
My mom is a legal immigrant from Latin America and a U.S. citizen for 23 years. She doesn’t like illegal immigration or any of these left-wing open borders nutballs any more than you do. I am perfectly fine with legal immigration, which is why I dropped Numbers USA like a hot potato because to me it seemed anti-immigration across the board. I am concerned multiculturalism, leftists who want to destabilize the country, and the welfare state are luring a different type of immigrant than decades ago, a guy who’s just looking for bennies and refuses to be part of our society. But I also know from personal experience there are plenty of people who are here–including Latinos-who know full well they have a better deal here than anywhere else and are grateful for it. Don’t throw the water out with the anchor baby. With your logic, unless you are named Little Black Feather, somebody can send you off somewhere else too.
There fixed it for you.
Certainly Dandapani.
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the most liberal senator in 2007, according to National Journal’s 27th annual vote ratings. The insurgent presidential candidate shifted further to the left last year in the run-up to the primaries, after ranking as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate.
The American Conservative Union has released its report on Congress for 2007, and John McCain will welcome the results. Despite missing a number of votes while campaigning for President, McCain voted often enough to win a rating of 80, a significant improvement over the 65 he got in 2006. That approximates his lifetime rating of 82.16 and gives McCain a little more ammunition for his argument to represent conservative values.‘
If you have any more questions, please don’t hesitate to ask.
On July 15th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, Rob said:
Sort of like RINO, Amnesty, Shamnesty(TM), etc, etc,
Fine. I want to be civil, but…you’re not leaving me alot of room on this one Rob.
As you wish.
I’m not using the word racist as a weapon. Your own blatantly xenophobic and racially insensitive views (i.e. stupidity) are the only weapons one needs. I don’t need to be a Rhodes scholar to see your view is an unfocused,largely biased and woefully misplaced view for someone who claims to be a conservative to possess. You come across on this point as a bigot, a racist, and a bafoon. And that’s being nice.
I have all the weapons I require to respond to people, but if you’re going to give me some to use anyway, i’ll just leave mine at home.
And whoopdie-freakin doo, you dont care what I think. I’m shocked, SHOCKED I SAY, at someone who says that after posting their ranting diatribe on a publicly accessible blog. If you don’t like someone commenting on your position, maybe you should keep your ignorance to yourself. If you dont want people responding, the “Submit Comment” button is a bad idea for you then.
I respect the fact you’re at least charged about the issue, but seriously…you’re going about it the absolute wrong way. And at the wrong people. Many of those who come here legally LOVE this place. They WANT to be here, to assimilate, and to have a better life. They WANT to be better citizens, and learn our language and culture. They serve in our military, in public offices, and are leaders in communities across our country. We don’t just call this the “Melting Pot” for nothing.
You’re also changing part of the debate. Now, its “non-assimilating”. That’s *not* what you were saying earlie. But let me set you in the straight on your own words, to be nice and fair. You said this:
Where’s the “oh, i was talking about non-assimilating people” there, eh?
Or, how about this lovely gem:
No, we’re not missing your point. You, on the other hand, are missing ours.
You NEVER, in any of your posts that I can remember, and certainly none today, have made ANY distinction between aspects of assimilation. You just want people gone, pure and simple.
I would say prove me wrong, but your own words really just sum it up.
And as a father of a lovely young daughter that also happens to be half hispanic (her mother is 100% mexican), i just happen to take your comments a little more to heart. You are NOT helping with the debate. You’re making it worse.
So, learn some tact and STFU until you do.
The word “citizen” used to mean one who was proud of their country, and a new naturalized citizen used to indicate that….now the word “citizen” is either mocked or just an excuse for various hostile groups to take over communities and policies…hispanics and muslims come to my mind.
Although there may be a few new “citizens” who actually do love this country, Given the number of hispanic “citizens” who give unabashed support to open-borders and amnesty for their own kind breaking US laws as shown by poll after poll causes me to wonder if “citizen” just means “now I can get better government programs”.
The borders must be secured, and those involved with hiring and supporting ilegals need to go to jail and lose assets…this includes some so-called US “citizens”.
If the Republican primaries are not closed off to idependents and held at the same time (thus saving alot of campaign spending and dumb ads) by 2012, it will be time to just leave the Republicans altogether…as it stands the RNC is not listening and still does not care as my experience with being unable to post a respectful comment on their
website indicates.
This only benefits democrats.
Wiseman, the problem with the ACU and NRA ratings is that they are jiggered to be unbelievably broad to give politicians wiggle room for either ACU or NRA support.
I have long quit using either NRA or ACU score cards as being objective…the NRA found out in 1996 who crappy their rating system was when they endorsed Bob Dole for President, and then in characteristic Dole fashion he found a way to diss the NRA,,,and it was that that cost him the election.
If you want to convince people to vote for McCain you will have to produce more than ratings, c’mon I know you have to be smarter than this, you are going to have to give more than this to convince those who say they will not vote for him.
On July 15th, 2008 at 11:42 am, Rob said:
Again, principled opposition to the pathetic lack of border enforcement and the diluting of American sovereignty is one thing. This blog sometimes crosses the line into something uglier.
The ACU and NRA ratingfs are at best “rough” guides…and on the subject of illegal immigration they are worthless…I mean what good are they when by supporting amnesty they are saying “I support vote fraud against conservatives”….We had that happen 4 years ago in my state of Washington for real
Man I hate that “xenophobic” crap (I know you are not throwing that out htere like a liberal though). I understnad where Rob is coming from. I don’t like to call out any nationality as the sole problem. However, in his case, the nationality of the immigrants is clear. I am against the mass immigraiton policy of today. The sheer numbers are overwhelming the traditional culture and language of our country, as well as the environment. Mass immigration in the past was always followed by a moratorium to allow for assimilation. Usually 2 decades. This immigration wave has been going on for 40 years and is completley changing the landscape of our country. I call it common sense to question the mass immigration policies of today and evaluate if they are adding value to american citizens. Not “fear” as xenophobe implies. Please read some of the excellent material put out by NumbersUSA.com to see the myriad of problems caused by mass immigration and get facts you will never see from the PC MSM. Finally, in every non-muslim country that has had a massive wave of muslim immigrants, violence and civil unrest have followed as they sought to force their own will upon the natives. So, making a general sweeping statement that all and any amount of legal immigration is good, is frankly naive. I would argue that some cultures (agreed not a nationality) should not be allowed to come in any great number. We must not allow our compassion and romantic notions of immigration to cloud our judgement and lose sight of our ultimate goal. A better future and standard of living for our decendents. Which I fail to see materializing if we allow our population to hit 1B as predicted by the beginning of next century by The Census Bureau. Again, great stats that will open your eyes at NumbersUSA.com.
I agree with you. We don’t just call this the melting pot for nothing.. because NOTHING is what is happening. March with Mexican flags demanding, DEMANDING rights. No assimilation…
McAmnesty and the Obamasiah were pandering to a LOT of citizens at the Mexican “The RACE” rally yesterday. Those Mexicans want more and more illegls and more and more of my tax money and more and more of our neighborhoods and towns.
I don’t care of your feelings are hurt. You can rant all you want. If your mommy waves Mexian flags and marches in the streets demanding her rights… if you are getting my tax money to take care of your baby. Then you ARE what I am talking about and I don’t want you here. If you are assimilating and fly the American flag.. then you can stay. Gracious of me, huh?
For you maybe, but I am voting a straight Libertarian ticket and encourage more citizen’s to do the same. I certainly am not giving McCain a mandate to open our borders even wider.
Please forgive some of my misspellings this morning on some of my posts -I have to go now.
Agreed. I dont like calling someone a racist, a bigot, or a xenophobe…but you’re right as far as i’m not throwing it around like liberals.
I agree that immigration needs to be very closely examined and make sure its appropriate by the numbers. But i’d take 100 legal immigrants over 1 illegal 12 days a week, in all 58 states
Weary Citizen …thanks. I get a little too passionate I guess about something that won’t be fixed. I just know how it was, can see what it has become, and know what it will be… and I get tired of the ostriches that just shout racist and xenophobe when they don’t like what is said.