Report: Father charged for defending 4-year-old from molestation
Your Wednesday morning blood-boiler comes from Raynham, MA. Over the weekend, the Raynham Enterprise News reported that a father had blown the whistle on an elderly, non-English-speaking grocery worker who allegedly reached under a bathroom stall and groped his 4-year-old son’s leg. The suspected molester has been charged with indecent assault and battery on a child. The police are also filing assault charges against the father.
One Raynham father is taking justice into his own hands, warning other parents this week about an alleged “predator” who he says groped his 4-year-old son in a supermarket bathroom last month.
Police said the suspect, an elderly janitor at Market Basket, allegedly reached under a bathroom stall partition and touched the boy’s calf while the child was standing on a bucket June 1.
The boy’s enraged father, who police said saw it happen, allegedly flung open the adjacent stall and punched the janitor, giving him a cut on his lip and a welt on the middle of his head.
The employee, Valerio Rodriguez, 71, of Providence, allegedly told police through a translator “that he was wrong for touching the little boy.”
Although Rodriguez faces a felony charge, the father, Jason R. Beatrice, 31, was reportedly horrified to see him still cleaning floors at Market Basket when he visited the store July 4.
“He was pushing a mop bucket smiling at children,” reads an anonymous flier, which police said Beatrice authored and distributed in Raynham.
Rodriguez was charged with indecent assault June 1, but he was not arrested. He was suspended from his job on July 6 and is scheduled to be arraigned in court on July 29. Police also charged Beatrice with assault for hitting Rodriguez, saying “they sympathized with him but would have preferred he had waited for police to arrive.” His arraignment is July 31.
Rodriguez reportedly told a Spanish language interpreter that he was “just joking around” when he touched Beatrice’s son.
The police chief doesn’t understand want all the fuss is about.
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Isn’t MA one of the liberal utopia’s TOS and lgm keep talking about?
Ahh yes, the whole victim mentality of liberal oppressors. Don’t fight back, we’ll arrest you for that, wait 5 minutes while your son is being groped/raped/murdered/etc for us to get there. You just call 911 like a good little boy, and don’t even think about using your second amendment rights because guns are banned in the People’s Republic of MA.
If this was in Vermont the father would be in jail and the illegal alien molester would be receiving the key to the city.
Which one is it, Chester?
He soon will. This is utterly ridiculous.
I can understand that as a society we do not want vigilante justice to become the law of the land but for a father to be charged for striking the man he just witnessed molesting his child is quite ridiculous.
And for the owners of Market Basket to keep the perv on the payroll, they are shameless and I hope anyone who once shopped there boycott the place and drive them out of business
larry craig was not available for comment.
Yep. Where you can’t defend yourself against “misunderstood” molesters, thugs, robbers, and murderers.
A liberal “utopia” if I ever saw one.
I’d have decked they guy, too. But it’s MA, so I’m not surprised the father is charged. How dare he defend his child against a pervert.
Our legal system is the biggest propagator of repeat offends ever. Especially when it comes to child molesters/predators. This is just a prime example of who the legal system thinks is a criminal. The father will do more time.
If I was the father I’d plead guilty and dare them to put me in jail and/or fine me. It would be a badge of honor.
It was poverty and a lack of empathy that made him grope the little boy
There they go again trying to cut the nuts out of the enraged male protecting his child. Sickening.
Hmmm…he doesn’t speak English. Did anyone bother to check his immigration status?
He was just doing the groping that Americans won’t do.
“He’s one of God’s children.”- Juan McCain
unreal. if i’m going to be charged, i might as well give someone more than a busted lip for touching my child.
I have no shame in admitting that regardless where this scum was originally from or how many translators he needs…had it been my child, the police would be able to fit him into his cleaning bucket and take him out of there.
That man should have immediately been arrested for touching that child and terminated from his job.
Example number 8,347 proving American Common Sense is dead.
The father should be applauded… but then again in our Liberal-Communist saturated no common sense culture, only fathers who abandon their children and “Baby’s Mamas” are cheered as Heroes.
Is there a way I can volunteer to be on the father’s jury? I promise to be fair and listen to all of the arguments before I find him not guilty for doing what any father would do.
The janitor is lucky he could still walk and speak.
At least the pervert still had lips left to speak in any language. I would have ripped his face off!
Ditto: Could not have said it better myself.
I registered for comments (only way to see them) on the “Wicked Local Raynham” (it’s the news outlet you get if you click MM’s “police chief” in the last sentence).
Imagine my surprise when I finally logged in and found NO comments in there. Does no one in that town care?
I am now searching out the police chief’s email so I can give him a piece of my mind.
Somebody does this, you just clean his clock and face the music later.
Of course, no jury in the World is going to convict this father for defending his son.
Here it is:
chiefmpacheco@dartmouthpd.org
Whoops, wrong pacheco… wrong pacheco… please disregard post #23
If I were the father, I would demand a jury trial and tell the jury exactly what I did and why, and let them decide what to do. No way they would convict.
Here’s the correct one:
lfpacheco@raynhampd.com
There was a video last week of an attempted robbery of a pizza place here. One of the cashiers beat the would-be robber down and the police picked him up (the robber).
Everyone they interviewed said they WISHED the kid had just given up the money and not taken the risk of DEFENDING HIMSELF.
Jesus. People are the suck now.
I would like to extend my personal invitation to that father to move to Oklahoma, where he would have been justified in blowing that child molestor to Hell!
I would have loaned him one of my guns to use, too.
For the love of God you trolls are unstoppable.
It’s really a shame. This is what your site is becoming, Michelle. I hope you don’t like it.
good job mjtyson and 30. I will wait to cool down before I join you.
Living in the area, I got to listen to all of the local talk shows talk about this.
Jim Braude (who for anyone who doesn’t know him, is one of the biggest liberals on that particular station, WTKK) was grilling Massachusetts DA Martha Coakley (who has aspirations of becoming our next governor) about the incident. Martha stammered her way through the interview and it was apparent she had no clue what happened. She even asked Jim Braude how old was the kid. (As if that fact had any relevance!)
She finally had the gall to say “We really discourage people from self help” That about says it all regarding the state of this state.
I found the website of the Raynham police department and tried to submit a comment (complaint). Unfortunately, both times I tried it came back with an error.
Here’s what I wrote them:
Try as I might, I could not find Valerio Rodriguez on your Sex Offender List.
I hope Jason Beatrice’s jury will show more common sense than you and your officers have shown.
I suppose the father should just have watched like those people did when the 2 year old boy was beaten to death in CA. How does this not fall under self defense?
The police chief doesn’t understand what all the fuss is about, huh? A father goes after the sonofa$%&?! who tried to inappropriately touch his 4 year old son, gets arrested for it and public outrage erupts. Oh sure, I don’t understand what the fuss is about, either! (Good grief.)
Yeah, no normal jury, gridlock, but don’t forget this is Massachusetts, one of the few places in America that arrests fathers for defending their sons.
wise_man
McCain supports amnesty and is against the deportation of illegal immigrants thus the results of their actions are due in part to his support.
give it a break, you are clearly a McCain hack who is trying to pretty up your guys failed policies. Quit trolling here and get ready for your next La Raza social
For the father to be charged with a crime on this to me is criminal. We should work on getting the person in DA’s office who filed the charges fired.
On July 16th, 2008 at 11:02 am, everett_mansfield said:
“He’s one of God’s children.”- Juan McCain
“No child molester is illegal.” Hillary
Bingo. That is the entire liberal philosophy in a nut shell.
Call Jessie Jackson…he could cut this perv’s privates off.
Hahaha, oh man, John McCain hacks/shills who dont understand the standard definition of “troll”.
Obama’s comment on this:
Massachusetts is a haven for child predators, and them seem to revel in that distinction. They are one of the only states that refuse to pass a version of Meagan’s law. This is the same state that released a repeat child sex offender against the recommendations of the prosecutors and court appointed psycholigists who considered the man an extreme danger to the community. This released offender took no time to rape a young boy in a public library.
Is is appalling that the thought of even arresting the father would cross law enforcement’s mind. A predator attempts to fondle a young child with the child’s father present? To me, that would indicate that the perpetrator’s brazenness was backed up by his readiness to inflict bodily harm on the child’s guardian.
Just curious, but were the arresting officers identified? And just what is the ethnic background of Chief Pacheo? This stinks, even for the Pedophile’s Playground, Massachusetts. Something else is in play here.
I’ve been studying for the Illinois Bar Exam, and I can tell you:
A parent has a legal duty to protect their children when in the face of danger .
Rodriguez’ act was a battery at least (an unpermitted touching of another).
Hello? It’s MA.
Beatrice was still a lot easier on Rodriquez than I would have been, had he done something like that to my son.
“I swear Your Honor, I must have snapped. One minute, I was there with my son in the restroom so he could use the facilities and the next minute, I’m standing over this bloody heap of a man on the bathroom floor.“
There’s still time for that.
Just so I’m clear on this, If – in your opinion – a black man somewhere commits a crime, is Barack Obama to blame?
(testing out your logic)
See what being honest gets you? Next time, kill the pervert, and then advise the police you confronted the perp and had to defend yourself when the perp attacked you. One less pervert for the world to put up with, and self-defense is a legitimate action.
Normally I’d completely disagree with this type of extremism, but this is what you get when subjected to a liberal justice system that pampers criminals and degrades victims.
Make it work for you, not against you.
As I stated in #44…
The father should have been arrested if he did not hit this child predator for child neglect!
I’m afraid I have to go against the grain here. It appears the child was in no imminent danger once the father intervened. Anger, no matter how righteous, isn’t an excuse for violence.
I don’t believe the father should be punished in any substantive way, however.
And i’d be glad to send him to see whatever god he believes in for a face to face meeting.
You’re spineless, or just like him, if you sympathize with this molester.
I think we just found Barack Obama’s campaign slogan.
Honestly – this is *exactly* the kind of mentality that will destroy America. Don’t help yourself! The government will do it for you!
Makes. Me. Sick.
wise_man, supersean and Jeddite have a point when they blame McCain for supporting amnesty for illegals.
The comparison between McCain being indirectly blamed for crimes committed by illegals and Obama being indirectly blamed for crimes committed by black people is not a good one.
There is always a way for the authorities to follow the law, but not compound an injury to the victim of a crime. Such as when a judge finds am obviously guilty man innocent because of the rule of law, and then when they also ask for money in compensation for dammages, award them only one dollar, not the tens of thousands that they were seeking.
If the judge could give no probation with time served and a verbal warning not to punch any more attempted child molesters in the face when they are caught in the act would be an appropriate ‘punishment’ for the assault charges against the father.
Illegal immigrants- touching the childrens legs that Americans won’t.
This is absolutely ridiculous! I was just reading this while listening to Fox News as they covered a case in New Jersey in which the judge basically just threw out “Megan’s law”. Fox was interviewing the city’s mayor who has stated that he is reviewing the court order in order to determine whether the city will appeal the decision. He has also vowed to speak with the governor and legislature to strengthen “Megan’s law.” I cannot believe either incident.
Maybe I’m naive and wanting too much to give people the benefit of the doubt, but what if this was just an incident blown out of proportion?
Having lived in a latin country and knowing that they are a little more tactile than we’re comfortable with, and love practical jokes (I really did hate that), I can see the janitor reaching under the stall and grabbing the kid’s ankle just to see him jump.
I’m not saying it was smart, but was it sexual assault? I guess depends on whether it was truly a grab or a “grope” (implying a more sexual intent).
As for the dad punching him, even if it was just a practical joke, well, I guess dad didn’t find it funny. You spins the wheel, you takes your chances, funny man.
The subject of this page is a father being charged with assault on the man who attempted to molest him. It has nothing to do with McCain, and these people are trolling this website (in my opinion) when they try to make this websites comments section a 24 hours a day, 7 days a week anti-McCain slander central. This is the kind of smearing that democrats love to do. Such as the behavior at the daily Kos and Huffington Post. I detest that there is an attempt to make this ‘the daily kos of the right’ by these people.
We should be better than this.
Yeah, I’m sure that Kos and HuffPo are constantly “smearing” McCain for being an open borders loon.
Meanwhile, back in the real world ….
Evidently not all illegals are democrats. This one is obviously a republican.
On July 16th, 2008 at 12:02 pm, wise_man said:
Seconded!
#58
Well indirectly McCain’s (and Obama’s) policies may play a part in this (if it turns out that the perp was an illegal immigrant). If the was anyone who support illegal immigrants is indirectly supporting their illegal activities because if they were NOT here in the country illegally, they would not be able to perform illegal acts.
Calling politicians out for their complicity is not trolling it is our duty to hold them accountable
The reason behind the would-be pervert’s actions is irrelevant, nmgardener. The father would have had no way of knowing if the would-be pervert was in fact playing a practical joke.
All he knew was that somebody in a bathroom stall was touching his son’s leg in another stall.
I have no doubt if you were the parent in the same situation, you would have come to the same conclusion. I certainly would have myself.
30, that’s what I wondered too–did Rodriguez do something ‘wrong’, or was he just ‘joking around’?
Oh, wait–I get it now; he was joking when he said he knew it was wrong…that’s why he was lurking like Shelob in the bloody stall!
You sure have the right name even though you are the righteous one here.
BTW…anyone touching my child in front of me (or caught by me) would be considered dangerous.
wise _man aka McCain hack
It is illegal to reside in the US without a valid visa or residency documentation. Are you suggesting that we make it illegal to be black?
Your logic is illogical. Are you lgm?
Responses from locals, universally supportive of the father, here:
http://www.enterprisenews.com/homepage/x544083658/Police-Child-groped-inside-Raynham-grocery-store
As to the man being elderly and not at risk of not showing up for court, the police chief is obviously a jackass. Plenty of child molestors are old, but very few stop at one attempt to harm one child. The seriousness of the accusation, NOT a judge-jury-executioner mindset, cries out for this man to have been arrested on the spot and arraigned, not left working around kids for another five weeks! And there is every reason to think that someone in a low-skilled job and with no command of the English langauge is indeed at risk of not showing up for a court date.
That’s ridiculum. I can not believe he is out of jail, mopping the floors, eyeing boys.
Contact info the the DA:
DA Martha Coakley (ago@state.ma.us; (617) 727-8400)
Wow!
I actually got a response back, just now from the e-mail I sent to the chief there…
Not that I still don’t think he is clueless but I didn’t really anticipate that I would get a reply back.
Hold on there, wise_man. This case is not an isolated incident when you consider the perpetrator is an illegal. There have been countless cases where illegals have committed horrible crimes, and we’re not talking about drug dealers who go in and out of the border.
McCain still supports amnesty for illegals, which makes him to a degree accountable for these offenses.
We hold politicians accountable for all sorts of actions because of their support of say, gun control, abortion and their opposition to legislation like Meagan’s Law and Jessica’s Law and so on.
And I know there are some commenters who constantly go after McCain for just about everything. In this case, they had a valid point.
On a final note, I will say to those aforementioned commenters, don’t forget to hold Obama accountable for his own support of illegal immigration. He is also indirectly to blame for this incident.
In Minnesota it was just recently announced that a father was savagely beaten on the 4th Of July as he tired to protect his 12 year old daughter from being molested by a gang of thugs. This happened at a family/children venue called called “Valleyfair”.
While the father is still in the hosptial weeks later, the animals who did it are running free out on bail.
The attacked family doesn’t want to be IDed by name in the news since it could give the criminals the info they need to hunt the family down and finish their sick, violent job.
From today’s Minneaplis Star-Tribune:
Dad who shielded daughter in attack at Valleyfair recovering, wife says
In Minnesota it was just recently announced that a father was savagely beaten on the 4th Of July as he tired to protect his 12 year old daughter from being molested by a gang of thugs. This happened at a family/children venue called called “Valleyfair”.
While the father is still in the hosptial weeks later, the animals who did it are running free out on bail.
The attacked family doesn’t want to be IDed by name in the news since it could give the criminals the info they need to hunt the family down and finish their sick, violent job.
From today’s Minneaplis Star-Tribune:
Dad who shielded daughter in attack at Valleyfair recovering, wife says
Do I have my dates correct?…
June 1- employee touches boy
July 4 -still working at market..
July 6 after situation being “exposed”..
perp fired…
Father arrested on the spot for defending son…
When are we going to say ENOUGH!!!?
Strange. They don’t seem to interested in doing that in the least.
I wonder why?
Here’s Your Sign
Can’t speak english, what a suprise. So is he an Illegal Alien Child Molestor?
It would’nt suprise me if the father of the boy got more time and fine than this slimey idiot.
Sambo said:
That’s fine. You’ve proved your manhood, or personhood, or whatever. If you use violence when there is no longer any imminent danger to anyone, please don’t whine if/when you have to face the consequences.
Did I miss something? I’ve read the link and did not find anything, either in Michelle’s comments or the linked article, to suggest illegal immigration status. Yes, the perp spoke through a translator, but nothing else to indicate that he is in the country illegally.
This is a case about sexual assault, not illegal immigration (until evidence exists).
Barry F, Wow I am also shocked he replied but I’m with you.
Knife-n-Dork,
Out of curiousity what would you have done?
You’re right, Jon Brodin. I apologize for jumping to conclusions and assuming that the suspect in this incident was an illegal because he doesn’t speak English.
Ask him to sit quietly, until the police arrive and not try to leave the sscene?
I would still give Mr. Beatrice a medal and nominate him for Father of the Year.
wise_ man, The difference between the crimes being committed by illegals is they are 100% preventable. Very rarely or ever could you say this about any other situation. I will vote for John Mccain, but he is a traitor to this country for what he has done to our southern border.Sorry for having to say that but its just the way I feel. And its just not him, its the rest of congress and every other president.
BM,
Wrong bird. That should be a moonbat.
Here’s our AG’s take on this-
http://eyeonthelaw.blogspot.com/2008/07/prominent-boston-talk-radio-host-calls.html
I like it, BM!
Oops! ‘Scuse the double posting above, my browser has an odd “hiccup” that sometimes does that lately when I hit “submit comment”.
I should have reiterated when I wrote previously that supersean and Jeddite had a valid point when they indirectly assigned blame to McCain because of this incident for his support of illegal immigration.
I should have also mentioned that this is all based on the assumption that the suspect in question was in fact an illegal.
Thanks to Jon Brodin for correcting me on my mistake.
I don’t know. I’d like to think I would have removed the child and called the police. I probably would have lashed out, verbally and maybe even physically. If I did so, though, I wouldn’t be surprised if I ended up paying some legal penalty.
Yeah, well I am prepared to go to jail to protect my children. Had this clown touched my kid he would have been lucky to get off with a busted lip.
This father may turn out to be the next “Joe Horn.”
Care to guess about this man’s immigration status?
Morgan, no worries; I am on your side on the illegal occupation that is occuring within our borders!
I certainly don’t want to defend wise_man because I think the McCain joke was valid, so don’t misunderstand this… However, we need to be careful, it looks like some people here are starting to definitively call the janitor illegal. Do we know that to be true or is it merely speculation?
That said, whether or not the janitor intended molestation does not matter. I don’t care if he thought it was a joke or if he needed his bucket back or what… it was a creepy and inappropriate thing to do and he deserved what he got and then some. I don’t understand the whole “sit back, take what they’re giving, and wait for help” mentality. If you can do something, do it. I would say that by stopping at a split lip and a welt, the father showed restraint considering what it appeared this man was trying to do.
Right there with you, RaisedRight!
Wrote the Chief of police as follows:
I wrote Chief Pacheco this note:
I have read sevaral reports and accounts of the incident involving Valerio Rodriguez and the child of Jason Beatrice. I did not want to make a snap judgment.
When, or where, is it a crime to defend the most defenseless part of our society, our own young children? It appears to me that the “WRONGS” in this incident were the groping of Mr Rodriguez, the non-arrest of the same Mr Rodriguez, and the charging of Mr Beatrice with a crime. The ONLY “RIGHT” that I see is the defending of his child by Mr Beatrice.
Stop the madness, arrest the molestor and drop charges on the child’s defender.
Chief Pacheco wrote back:
We have to wait until we see what happens in court-it may very well be the child had been protected and then the father decided to use force —like one of us shooting someone after they drop their gun. It also may very be that the old man just wanted his bucket back that he was using to clean the men’s room. The window for the legal use of force might have been over, we will see. That’s what the courts are for. There is much more to the story than what you have been able to read or hear in the media. Thank you for taking the time to write me.
Lou Pacheco
Louis J Pacheco
Chief of Police
Town of Raynham
My response
My opinion is still the same; however, I do appreciate you taking the time to write back.
This was posted on the Enterprisenews site on the article about this:
Now, I DID NOT write this, and I CANNOT confirm it’s validity. Perhaps some of the contributors here can confirm this for us? If this information is accurate, we might be able to help out by going after the DA and sending support to Jason and his family.
Hmmm… the response that alt received sounds awfully similar to the one that Barry F. received.
I smell liberal, or at least a minion of one. So at what point immediately after does the janitor not become a threat to the safety of that child?
When the father realizes the child molester is in advanced years? When the father sees no obvious weapon in his hands? When the father is able to pinpoint exactly how much hand to hand training the child molester has?
Simple facts my knife-in-dork friend, if someone attempts to molest your child you have every legal right to defend yourself and your child. The father reacted (according to reports) very quickly by busting into the stall the child molestor was using to grope the 4 year old boy and began pummeling the man. The man could have been armed with a variety of weapons or been an accomplished boxer in his 30’s 40’s 50’s and still had the skills to knock out the average joe despite being 70+. You just don’t know who or what your messing with until it’s too late. So at what point did this cross the line from “lawful reaction to an unlawful assault on a child” to “beating up an old guy who clearly had no weapon or combat skills 5 minutes after the incident occurred out of sheer revenge and rage”? Because I must be missing where this line was crossed.
I suggest that father, once cleared of the charges, move to a state that respects him for being a citizen and has laws allowing one to defend themselves with a firearm if needs be in certain situations. Flee the
liberalcommunist state you live in, it does not have your interest at heart. You are just another subject to be lorded over by the nanny-state who tells you exactly how you must live your life.As a semi-respose to alt’s post, I would also like to post this quote by “DebbieG” from the enterprise news site:
She is claiming to be an eyewitness to the scene. If so, it sounds that the news reports are very much dead-on correct and the police chief is just engaging in some CYA with his letter to you alt.
Knife-n-Dork, I think another take on this situation is that some people take the law into their own hands (which this case against the father could be seen as), because the justice system is so inept at dispensing justice. If citizens were confident that criminals would consistently be dealt with swiftly and appropriately, then you probably wouldn’t see much ‘vigilantism’ at all.
The basic problem is that I believe many people have a fairly low amount of faith in the justice system doing its job, so when given the opportunity to act, they do, although in this case it clearly was not premeditated action – it’s basic instinct to aggressively defend one’s own offspring if they appear to be threatened in some way.
I might of hesitated seeing how old the guy was.. but only momentarily. One false move and he’d be toast.