Report: Father charged for defending 4-year-old from molestation
Your Wednesday morning blood-boiler comes from Raynham, MA. Over the weekend, the Raynham Enterprise News reported that a father had blown the whistle on an elderly, non-English-speaking grocery worker who allegedly reached under a bathroom stall and groped his 4-year-old son’s leg. The suspected molester has been charged with indecent assault and battery on a child. The police are also filing assault charges against the father.
One Raynham father is taking justice into his own hands, warning other parents this week about an alleged “predator” who he says groped his 4-year-old son in a supermarket bathroom last month.
Police said the suspect, an elderly janitor at Market Basket, allegedly reached under a bathroom stall partition and touched the boy’s calf while the child was standing on a bucket June 1.
The boy’s enraged father, who police said saw it happen, allegedly flung open the adjacent stall and punched the janitor, giving him a cut on his lip and a welt on the middle of his head.
The employee, Valerio Rodriguez, 71, of Providence, allegedly told police through a translator “that he was wrong for touching the little boy.”
Although Rodriguez faces a felony charge, the father, Jason R. Beatrice, 31, was reportedly horrified to see him still cleaning floors at Market Basket when he visited the store July 4.
“He was pushing a mop bucket smiling at children,” reads an anonymous flier, which police said Beatrice authored and distributed in Raynham.
Rodriguez was charged with indecent assault June 1, but he was not arrested. He was suspended from his job on July 6 and is scheduled to be arraigned in court on July 29. Police also charged Beatrice with assault for hitting Rodriguez, saying “they sympathized with him but would have preferred he had waited for police to arrive.” His arraignment is July 31.
Rodriguez reportedly told a Spanish language interpreter that he was “just joking around” when he touched Beatrice’s son.
The police chief doesn’t understand want all the fuss is about.
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#74
you obviously did not read my post
WOW nothing. It is the same letter everyone gets - verbatum.
I got the same letter and I sent:
“Drop the charges against the father.”
Of course, I had to add “father” ’cause, he might have been confused as to whom I was speaking.
Good Idea, but how many state sign would you figure I would have to do that too.
Absolutely correct.
I would love to see enforcement of our existing laws.
BM,
Did you get my request to add Yoda ears to the all knowing idiot, lgm?
Now I am totally confused. How do you reconcile this with your utter defense of McCain?
If you read my post, I’m not blaming the dad; his response is understandable, if not a little overblown. What I’m worried is our perception of the event without all of the facts.
I see terms in the comments like “illegal immigrant”, “child molester”, and “ogling other boys”, none of which is substantiated by the linked article. “Lurking in the stall”? Maybe he was cleaning it. He is the janitor.
As eluded to by a previous poster, we don’t want this to be the Kos. Let’s leave hyperbole to the Leftists, and the investigation to the authorities. If it is as I imagine, the janitor did something dumb, and got punched in the face for it: Even Steven. If it comes about that the suspect really is a molester, and gets slap on the wrist, or the dad is actually prosecuted, then we can go ape.
That’s just what I was going to ask him, On-my-soap-box (#106)
Insane. Absolutely Insane.
Because Obama has the same opinions as McCain on illegal immigration, and when you compare the two on all the other issues, McCain is the better choice by far.
Barry F posted what the chief said:
Louis give me a damn break. You can not compare this to an idiot dropping a gun and then shooting him.
nmgardener, I concede your point, although I do not believe the father’s actions in this case were overblown in any way.
Yup, NYC. Note the story I mentioned above above.
Yup again. I find it amazing that any parent would be puzzled about what to do if they see their child being molested - or someone else’s child for that matter.
Jesse “The Scrotum Switchblade” Jackson might even have an idea how to handle it.
Yup I checked out that link soon after you posted it PurpleDeep - shocking. What’s the bet they’ll spend less time behind bars than the father does suffering from the results of their actions - not to mention the expense.
Yeah, that’s the ticket - a child’s leg and a mop bucket feel the same. Hasn’t everyone made that very common simple error? Of course, it takes a lot of groping to tell the difference.
How in the world did this buffoon even manage to get on any police force, much less end up as “Chief”?
That quote bugged me too. My first thought was… He needed his bucket so badly that he couldn’t wait until the child was out of the stall?! Yeah, I bet that is what was going on.
I’m wondering - what would the situation be like right now if it was the child’s MOTHER who witnessed someone touching her son inappropriately and used force - slapping, pushing, hitting, a good groin kick - whatever. I’m on the side of anyone protecting their kids. I think society views fathers as “bullies” and mothers as “protectors” - if it was a mom in this situation, I bet she never would have been arrested. But this father had every right to do what he did, and I would do the same.
It’s MA?
Seriously, there is a reason I only visit my relatives in New England on rare occasions for very short stays. Their section of society has given completely (well almost completely, some rare few patriots still exist in what used to be a section of land full of patriots) into the victimhood/welfare/nannystate/anti-Constitutional rights sheeple who expect their local governments, unions, and state governments to tell them what to do for everything and live off the government teat at every chance and turn. I can’t wear my glock concealed in the majority of those states too due to them ignoring the Constitution and spitting all over it, which is a leading contributor to my very short stays upon visiting.
That’s even if they show up. The bail was in the $60,000 range which means they had to each cough up 10% to make bail bond. I don’t know too many respectable working folks who have 6 grand in mad money, so I’m smelling gang/drugs funds on that.
Hmmm….I knda like that “PurpleDeep” over “Purplepeep”. Especially since I can crank out a dang good rendition of “Smoke On The water”.
Well, apparently Chief Pacheco isn’t afraid of e-mail. I replied back to him about the copy-n-paste reply I got and he sent me another one back:
Purplepeep, I’ll say what everyone is afraid to say, that the thugs who beat up the father were black.. They had been in the Park all day causing problems. What does the MN media say? Oh, the poor blacks have social and familial issues that drove them to act like pack animals.
Oops, yup PurplePeep.. shows where my minds is at when I’m not keeping an eye on it.. ‘Smoke on the Water’ - gotta be the most common first guitar riff learned by every aspiring young guitarist for generations.
My dad is 77 soon to be 78 and I would not mess with him, he was a body builder when he was young; and the doctor says he has never seen anyone at that age with the muscles such as my dad’s. I believe my dad if provoked could be physically capable of doing some damage to anyone especially if they thought cause he’s old he is no threat. What a mistake they would be making.
So this old guy groper at 70-71 could have been a physical threat, he could have had a mop (a weapon)in his hand.
That being said, it is a sad day that the accused molestor goes free and the accused defender goes to jail. Not sure why they took the word of the old guy groping over the father. Oh, wait, I know now, cause he DIDN’t speak english. Automatic get out of jail free card.
No, but I just wrote it down, I’ll post it when I get it done.
I do not want to see Barack Obama become the next president. I disagree with many things that McCain is doing and saying, and I understand the fundamental differences between them. On illegal immigration, McCain is absolutely and completely wrong on this issue.
There are some people who are ‘one issue voters’ Such as, they will never vote for any candidate who is not pro-life. I know that I can never find a candidate that believes 100% of the issues that I do. When presented with a choice, I decide on who is the better choice. I don’t see how there is a problem with reconciling these opinions of mine at all. I want what’s best for my country. I also want to prevent what in my opinion will be worse.
I did the MA sign as you suggested soap.
Just do like I have done, Soap. Go ahead and put a link to BM’s PhotoBucket page on your desktop.
I click over to it every once in a while to look at the troll photo of lgm and have a good laugh.
How in the world did this buffoon even manage to get on any police force, much less end up as “Chief”?
Heh, makes sense.
The case I noted above happened in Minnesota which - though a woefully liberal place - does have conceal/carry. And I’m not 100% sure on this, but I think you don’t even need to “conceal” the gun. Though it might not be a good idea to have it hanging in a hip holster.
Had the father in the story I mentioned been packing maybe it’d be the bad guys who would be recovering in the hospital instead. Or they would’ve just backed off.
I am not trying to prove my manhood Mr. Dork. I am making the simple point that a cornered animal is more dangerous.
There is no longer any imminent danger to anyone when this man is in handcuffs.
Speaking of your page, BM, what’s the difference I am missing in the two MoonBat energy drink images?
Purplepeep , you do not have to conceal the weapon… technically the law is the “Personal Protection Act” I have a permit and have worn “Snuffy” twice in public on my hip but I choose to conceal it.
Yup. All ya need is to learn the power G Barre chord to start and it’s a piece o’ cake from there on.
Ah - thanks for that info, David. I think we need more C/C folks out and about in this fine state.
In the case at Valleyfair could a non-threatened CC 3rd party intervene to assist the attacker(s) to rethink the possible consequences? Or would it apply more only to the person who was actually being assaulted (if he had been carrying)?
ROFLMBO
You have quite the collection going on your page, BM! ROFL
The life and death issue is the key. One must usually assess a life threatening action against one’s own person, but in extreme cases, such as what happened here in MN, there might be cause for firing upon the scum. I’d have to know more about the actual situation to opine accurately. The real problem is Valleyfair doesn’t allow you to carry on it’s premises. I don’t follow the signs anyway because given the location they aren’t properly posted and worded. I’d NEVER carry in a school, hospital, that kind of thing … well almost never.
knife in dork must not have children…if they do, I hope they never get molested.
Am I the only one keeping Cheif Pacheco busy replying to e-mails today?
As I understand it, such private signs have no force of law behind them. I’m not sure if that’s a correct understanding or not, but I believe they are in effect nothing more than “requests”.
Goverment buildings, e.g. the Henn County Bldg/courthose would be a whole ‘nother animal, of course.
Purplepeep… exactly! they are requests…. but I mean no harm to anyone, am no threat to anyone unless they choose to be a threat to me, so I must admit, I ignore them. No, I never look for trouble. In fact, we who carry are held to a higher standard of responsibility than the average moke… but , that’s as it should be. We are not vigilantes running around wild eyed.
He seems to have taken a liking to ya.
alaskangrizzly said:
Nah, sorry, I shouldn’t have had that second burrito at lunch.
So at what point immediately after does the janitor not become a threat to the safety of that child?
I’m not going to be drawing the line based on any media story, that’s for sure. I’ll leave that to the justice system, again, as long as no one was in any imminent danger.
So I guess the groupthink on this is that physical violence is justifiable as long as it’s perpetrated against someone we don’t like. That sounds a lot like the KOS Kids’ group think. See, MMers do have something in common with KOSers. Maybe that’s how Ol’ Liver Lips is planning to heal and unite us all.
Knife-n-Dork: I am offended by your notion that just because most of us here happen to be in agreement on issue, we are falling prey to groupthink. That would mean that we are conforming to the opinions of others to fit in or some such nonsense.
I know my own thought process on this and I am willing to give everyone here the benefit of the doubt - that they read the story and formed an opinion based on the article and their own life experiences.
I’m sure it makes you feel very superior to point at everyone who does not agree with you and basically call us all sheep. Feel free to continue considering yourself above us all.
This is definitely a tool statement. “…against someone we don’t like.” You mean, a creepy janitor who reached into a neighboring stall and touched the small child inside? I guess I’m profiling here, because I am definitely against all creepy, child-touching janitors.
What RaisedRight said.
There. I hope that cleared up any confusion you’ve previously exhibited.
RaisedRight, Mr. Dork is a hack as you can tell by his own namesake.
Dunno about “groupthink”, lad, but “methink” is that when a sicko is caught in the act of molesting a kid he’s the one who needs to heed your sage advice:
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OMG! I’m a bigot! I can’t stand…
Oh, well. I’m okay with being a bigot, in that case.
RaisedRight said:
I’m sorry you’re offended, really. My side? I’ve commented several times here at MM, generally in the flow of thought, hopefully adding something to the conversation. I take one tiny step outside of the prevailing thought, and I’m immediately invalidated by being labelled a liberal. That, to me, is group think.
Knife-n-Dork, you need to have someone rush you to the hospital quick. Your heart is bleeding. Basically all you have said is that if your child was being molested, you would stand by and watch and then call the “authorities” to come do your parenting for you. Weenie.
Knife-n-Dork: Well, then you don’t understand the meaning of groupthink. I briefly scanned the past comments and I can only find one where you are called a liberal. How is one person calling you a liberal an example of groupthink?
I clearly cannot know what goes on in your head, but this is how it appears: you didn’t come to the same conclusion that others (individually) came to, people argued with you over your differing view points, you didn’t like what the rest of us were writing so you accused us of groupthink. Can you see how it might look this way?
If I mislabeled you by saying I smelled liberalism I apologize. But your stance on this one is one I expect to read at in the KOS, or from someone who lived in MA, CA, NY etc who are anti-self defense, anti-gun, etc.
Judging by the comments on the local news story linked even the liberals in MA are outraged the father was charged at all.
I’m just glad I live in a state with some sanity left (even if we have an evil liberal governor and phoenix mayor and all the open borders whackos here) that allows for people to “own and bear arms” and defend themselves and third party if they are in danger.
People, there was a stall wall between this creep and the kid, if the media’s version of the story can be trusted. If the old guy has started to crawl under the stall towards the kid, fine! Stomp him like a bag of potato chips! But if he’s just…um…sitting there, looking stunned and making no aggressive moves toward the father, then I stick by what I said. Violence was uncalled for.
Here’s the Livejournal page of the aunt of the child in this case. On July 11th she wrote:
“I don’t know what to do with myself. Also, does anyone know how to find a good defense attorney? And do you think the charges will stick? Please help. I would have done this same thing. Someone tried to hurt my nephew. My brother did what any father (or auntie) would have done.”
Livejournal page link
Yeah, because we all totally wanted the dad to beat the living s*** out of the janitor, right? The guy decked him - what, in a sane world, used to be a normal reaction for a man who sees his children threatened.
This guy reached under a bathroom stall to touch the child’s leg. I’m going to go out on a limb here and say he got the leg because the stall made it impossible to touch anything else.
And you just freakin’ don’t reach under a bathroom stall. It’s sick. I can’t think of many other places on the planet where one should expect total privacy and security.
The “groupthink” here is that physcial violence is sometimes necessary in order to defend oneself, one’s loved ones, and one’s property from deviants. Liberals don’t understand that and would rather rely on the government to take care of them and protect them from criminals.
That, my friend, is groupthink.
I recognize the condescension, the name-calling and the arrested-development attitudes. Knife-N-Dork is Rusty!
Found a photo of Chief Pacheco. Now it all makes sense.
One last thought: Aren’t the Valerio Rodriguez’ of the world sufficient proof that gay is not good?
Yeah! Any kid a molester can feel up that way is fair game - that’s the ticket.
And we’re sure lucky that you were there instead of the victim and the father so you can give us the real scoop, lad!
“a 4-year-old boy was reportedly touched high on the leg by a Market Basket employee in the store’s bathroom”
“Shoppers at the Market Basket Plaza on Broadway said they empathized with Jason Beatrice — who was in the bathroom when Rodriguez reached at his son from under a stall — for hitting the person who posed a threat to his child.”
Indecent assault raises concern
Of course, you could still sell your version to some group I suppose; maybe the CMA? No, not the Country Music Assn - the “Child Molesters Of America”.
Okay, joke or no joke, this pervert was lucky to leave with a split lip.
If my children are in a bathroom stall and I see someone reaching up to touch them from the next stall, then that pervert better have great health insurance because he will need it after I am through with him/her. And, he/she would be VERY lucky if it was a day I wasn’t carrying.
I haven’t read all 150+ comments, but I hope everyone else would protect their kids at any cost like Mr. Beatrice did.
Now, EQ, were you using your John McCain or Juan Hernandez voice that time.
LOL, Hipster. But it doesn’t have that crazy Rusty Relativism ™ we’ve all come to know and love. If he were Rusty the defense of the molester would be more sumthin’ like:
“Well, kids play “doctor” & people understand that, this is just an adult doing the same thing”.
Yup, yup, yup, MomO2G. He’s actually pretty lucky, all things considered. Feeling up kids in public bathrooms just isn’t a “joke” that many folks will yuck it up about.
Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious.
It’s not like the dad hunted this guy down days or weeks later and hit him. It was a pretty immediate - and wholly justified - action.
There are three (yes, three) sex offenders living a few apartment buildings away from our own. Were I to see them touch a child, I’d probably deck them, too.
The lesson liberals have to learn is you don’t stop crime by handing out Warm Fuzzies. Sometimes a smack upside the head is appropriate and necessary.
But, if you administer it correctly, the place smacked will be warm and they should be quite fuzzy as they start to come around from it.
Gotta say, I would worry about the father if he hadn’t had the reaction he did. In fact, even if it wasn’t my kid, I would have punched the creep.
To any guy that questions action….. what the heck do you think a dad would do…. Son is in a stall…hand reaches under stall , grabs son’s leg….. that is it..end of story, that miscreant will get his arm ripped off and beaten with it.
ROFL peepers. You nailed Rusty to a tee.
Now try lgm mode. Hint: You have to compare the perv to a republican and tell why the perv is better.
Rodriguez gave two different reasons for his actions but not once does he claim he “just wanted his bucket back”. With police chiefs providing excuses to perps, who needs lawyers?
Papa Louie, you are correct on the coddling sheriff. I would have given him the bucket back, alright. With spare parts in it to build a new Rodriguez.
lisping goony man said:
Valerio Rodriguez may have groped a boy, but nobody died. Queef, queef. Bush is responsible for the death of tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis. Queef, queef.
I see we’re starting to get just like Great Britain. If a burglar breaks into your house, don’t attempt to stop him. You will get arrested for assault. I’ve seen that twice on the “Daily Telegraph”. Criminals walk, you go to jail. Or, the cops who stood by watching a little girl drown, because “they weren’t trained for water rescue”. So now, if you defend your 4 year old against a molester, in Mass., bingo!! You win the prize…a summons to court. Well, those people voted for liberals, and now they have them. Good luck!! Glad I moved away from that state in ‘68. Never to return.
I am from Assachusetts, with an 87% liberal socialist Democrat Legislature (all redundant, I know) that encourages pedophilia. We also have unelected, unaccountable judges moonlighting as cross dressing, gay-bar hopping pervs, and there’s nothing we can do about it. I hope we see more incidents like this one, parents taking the law into their own hands. It will further shame and embarrass our gutless, toothless pols. We had an incident several years back where a “trans gendered” thing was literally caught with his pants down attempting to force a 12 yr. old boy to perform oral sex while holding a sharpened screwdriver to his head. He plead GUILTY, but a Assachusetts “judge” gave him PROBATION!! We the people created such an uproar that Mitt Romney helped put pressure on our apathetic “representatives” and had that judge removed. But fear not, pedophiles, there are plenty more where that came from. At the state border, signs read “Entering Assachusetts, Pedophiles Welcome. From Your Friendly Neighborhood Governor Deval “Free ‘em All” Patrick.”
What *I* don’t get is why Market Basket kept the alleged molester on-the-job for over a month after the incident instead of suspending him that day.
I bet the management of Market Basket didn’t want to suspend their employee out of concern for a possible latino boycott. They finally do the right thing when they see the possibility of a White boycott.
Something to be kept in mind is Mr. Beatrice will need to come up with up to $20,000 for legal fees if the case goes to trial.
But hey this *is* Massachusetts we’re talking about; same would have happened in Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York and another dozen of so Big Government states with large “minority” populations.
Massachusetts = NANNY state
Remember last year when they attmepted to outlaw spanking????!!!!
I’m disgusted by the janitor’s actions and that of the police.The guy is lucky that all he got was cut on his lip and a welt on the middle of his head, the father went pretty easy on him IMO.
Would it have been O.K. to POP The guy after they arrived?
One name - Lorena Bobbitt
Yeah, I also thought that part was especially insane, Papa. Moreso since the guy confessed he knew what he did was wrong.
Heh, good one. I can see it now: Police finally arrive and say “Go ahead and pop him one now, it’s fine with us.”
Sadly, the pop on the lip may be the only form of justice that that man will feel in this case. At least he received some swift consequences that will hopefully make him think twice before doing it again…but I’m wondering if he may have already done this type of thing again, since the police couldn’t bring themselves to arrest him.
me thinks knife n dork is named appropriately. Logic severely lacking.
When stupid stuff like what knife n dork comes out, it trips me back to my college days in philosophy class where you argued just to argue and sometimes, they actually thought it was a logical argument when ya know? Sometimes it’s a matter of right vs. wrong and that changes things. liberal whacknuts have done their best to try to work the “survival” mechanism out of the human being and pretend we should all act alike and shrug our shoulders and let the gummint take care of us. Perverts like this shouldn’t be walking among us and he’s lucky that he didn’t touch my kid, he’d be singing soprano for a long long time.
Then perhaps the fathers, brothers, uncles and such in Vermont need to just punch the hell out of the pervert and NOT give a statement until you talk to a lawyer. Or better yet just slink away and let the bastard bleed out. Not giving a statement is what we advise in Home Defense/Self Defense class.
There is always an answer. Would the jurors in Vermont go along with this nonsense?
It’s MA. What did you expect? Fairness?
Um…maybe the chief and his cops in Raynham, MA. shouldn’t be around strange children, either…