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		<title>By: graysonret</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/18/remember-those-fiberglass-drug-subs/comment-page-1/#comment-397997</link>
		<dc:creator>graysonret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, all Bush&#039;s fault.  I think we&#039;ve heard enough of that, being an election year.  I suppose congress, the SCOTUS, and state/city governments are real upset with Bush too, for making them allow illegals in, against their wishes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, all Bush&#8217;s fault.  I think we&#8217;ve heard enough of that, being an election year.  I suppose congress, the SCOTUS, and state/city governments are real upset with Bush too, for making them allow illegals in, against their wishes.</p>
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		<title>By: maisy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/18/remember-those-fiberglass-drug-subs/comment-page-1/#comment-389141</link>
		<dc:creator>maisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George Bush is evil....I voted for him and regret it ......he is part of the plan to surrender the sovreigntry of this country. He is disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Bush is evil&#8230;.I voted for him and regret it &#8230;&#8230;he is part of the plan to surrender the sovreigntry of this country. He is disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: corkie</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/18/remember-those-fiberglass-drug-subs/comment-page-1/#comment-382254</link>
		<dc:creator>corkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...the Colombian Navy was somehow using intel and satellite technology to nail these suckers as soon as they pulled away from land.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is a pretty broad statement. The &quot;intel&quot; could have been tipsters or undercovers. I don&#039;t know what type of satellite sensors would have been used for these operations. 

If the vessel is already at sea, then I would think that the best imaging radars would be those employed by aircraft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;the Colombian Navy was somehow using intel and satellite technology to nail these suckers as soon as they pulled away from land.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a pretty broad statement. The &#8220;intel&#8221; could have been tipsters or undercovers. I don&#8217;t know what type of satellite sensors would have been used for these operations. </p>
<p>If the vessel is already at sea, then I would think that the best imaging radars would be those employed by aircraft.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianNY</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianNY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#26 corkie said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The best bet is to use the captured vessels for &lt;strong&gt;imaging radar tests&lt;/strong&gt; - then disseminate the type of image it produces. (These vessels aren’t stealth enough to hide from imaging radars.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
#16
&lt;blockquote&gt;
I remember reading 2007 Colombian reports that said, working directly with the US Coast Guard, the Colombian Navy was somehow using intel &lt;strong&gt;and satellite technology&lt;/strong&gt; to nail these suckers as soon as they pulled away from land.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Could this be part of what I remember reading?  Or is all radar surface based, and sat technology separate?  

I&#039;m not an expert on this stuff, but I am fascinated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26 corkie said:</p>
<blockquote><p>The best bet is to use the captured vessels for <strong>imaging radar tests</strong> &#8211; then disseminate the type of image it produces. (These vessels aren’t stealth enough to hide from imaging radars.)</p></blockquote>
<p>#16</p>
<blockquote><p>
I remember reading 2007 Colombian reports that said, working directly with the US Coast Guard, the Colombian Navy was somehow using intel <strong>and satellite technology</strong> to nail these suckers as soon as they pulled away from land.</p></blockquote>
<p>Could this be part of what I remember reading?  Or is all radar surface based, and sat technology separate?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not an expert on this stuff, but I am fascinated.</p>
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		<title>By: Goldwater Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goldwater Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe I read that some of these subs can be unmanned and controlled from hundreds of miles away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe I read that some of these subs can be unmanned and controlled from hundreds of miles away.</p>
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		<title>By: corkie</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/18/remember-those-fiberglass-drug-subs/comment-page-1/#comment-380935</link>
		<dc:creator>corkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On July 18th, 2008 at 7:13 pm, supersean said:

The fact that these vessels are also utilizing commercial off the shelf boat engines makes their detection even easier&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Detection isn&#039;t the challenge. Discrimination is.

Imagine a sonar system indicating the presence of 50 fishing boat engines OR so many engines that the system can&#039;t tell one boat from the other. In such a case, the sonar doesn&#039;t help enforcement officials locate anything.

The best bet is to use the captured vessels for imaging radar tests - then disseminate the type of image it produces. (These vessels aren&#039;t stealth enough to hide from imaging radars.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On July 18th, 2008 at 7:13 pm, supersean said:</p>
<p>The fact that these vessels are also utilizing commercial off the shelf boat engines makes their detection even easier</p></blockquote>
<p>Detection isn&#8217;t the challenge. Discrimination is.</p>
<p>Imagine a sonar system indicating the presence of 50 fishing boat engines OR so many engines that the system can&#8217;t tell one boat from the other. In such a case, the sonar doesn&#8217;t help enforcement officials locate anything.</p>
<p>The best bet is to use the captured vessels for imaging radar tests &#8211; then disseminate the type of image it produces. (These vessels aren&#8217;t stealth enough to hide from imaging radars.)</p>
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		<title>By: Goldwater Knight</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/18/remember-those-fiberglass-drug-subs/comment-page-1/#comment-380775</link>
		<dc:creator>Goldwater Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colombian drug traffickers have been caught using a small submarine to smuggle &lt;strong&gt;5.8 tons&lt;/strong&gt; of cocaine to the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colombian drug traffickers have been caught using a small submarine to smuggle <strong>5.8 tons</strong> of cocaine to the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: supersean</title>
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		<dc:creator>supersean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>corkie,

since it seems you might also know a thing or two about this, you should know that active and passive sonar systems deployed by most modern navies (even the almighty Mexican navy) and coast guards can easily distinguish large, improperly constructed moving objects underwater. The fact that these vessels are also utilizing commercial off the shelf boat engines makes their detection even easier</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>corkie,</p>
<p>since it seems you might also know a thing or two about this, you should know that active and passive sonar systems deployed by most modern navies (even the almighty Mexican navy) and coast guards can easily distinguish large, improperly constructed moving objects underwater. The fact that these vessels are also utilizing commercial off the shelf boat engines makes their detection even easier</p>
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		<title>By: Die Hippie, Die</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/18/remember-those-fiberglass-drug-subs/comment-page-1/#comment-380329</link>
		<dc:creator>Die Hippie, Die</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On July 18th, 2008 at 1:37 pm, WestCoastCoconut said:

Die Hippie, Die Mexico has even sent a Mexican into space!!! Seriously!!

Rodolfo Neri Vela&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Where did Rodolfo stow away?  I didn&#039;t know the shuttle had a trunk. :oops:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On July 18th, 2008 at 1:37 pm, WestCoastCoconut said:</p>
<p>Die Hippie, Die Mexico has even sent a Mexican into space!!! Seriously!!</p>
<p>Rodolfo Neri Vela</p></blockquote>
<p>Where did Rodolfo stow away?  I didn&#8217;t know the shuttle had a trunk. <img src='http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif' alt=':oops:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Speakup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Speakup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most likely won&#039;t see a drug sub in Morro Bay (a beautiful quiet little harbor) but that little town is also a liberal bastion and so I would think theres more than a few snow blind friends looking for a little comfort for their minds. 

Part of the war on drugs I&#039;m sure is (or should be) is the transport of drug money back to the cartels.
If they can&#039;t get their money, they might quit shipping.
Maybe a real reward for turning in the location of drug money would help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most likely won&#8217;t see a drug sub in Morro Bay (a beautiful quiet little harbor) but that little town is also a liberal bastion and so I would think theres more than a few snow blind friends looking for a little comfort for their minds. </p>
<p>Part of the war on drugs I&#8217;m sure is (or should be) is the transport of drug money back to the cartels.<br />
If they can&#8217;t get their money, they might quit shipping.<br />
Maybe a real reward for turning in the location of drug money would help.</p>
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		<title>By: corkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>corkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On July 18th, 2008 at 4:22 pm, supersean said:

It is fairly easy to catch these boats as they do not have the hydrodynamics to truly “run silent”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not sure this is true. It&#039;s not simply a matter of hearing them. It&#039;s a matter of discriminating them from the background noise. Do you know whether or not they have a loud, &lt;strong&gt;discrete &lt;/strong&gt;frequency?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On July 18th, 2008 at 4:22 pm, supersean said:</p>
<p>It is fairly easy to catch these boats as they do not have the hydrodynamics to truly “run silent”.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure this is true. It&#8217;s not simply a matter of hearing them. It&#8217;s a matter of discriminating them from the background noise. Do you know whether or not they have a loud, <strong>discrete </strong>frequency?</p>
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		<title>By: supersean</title>
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		<dc:creator>supersean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is fairly easy to catch these boats as they do not have the hydrodynamics to truly &quot;run silent&quot;. The boats are more of a threat for short runs (Mexico/Central America/Caribbean/Canada) than from South America</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is fairly easy to catch these boats as they do not have the hydrodynamics to truly &#8220;run silent&#8221;. The boats are more of a threat for short runs (Mexico/Central America/Caribbean/Canada) than from South America</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastCoconut</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/18/remember-those-fiberglass-drug-subs/comment-page-1/#comment-379941</link>
		<dc:creator>WestCoastCoconut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;*Raise your hand if your reaction to that story was “Mexico has a navy?” Well, they do, and good for them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Gosh ! Michelle I thought this was common knowledge. Obviously you did not spend enough time in the southwest.  he he he

I only know this because my uncle served in the Mexican Navy and lives in Mazatlan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>*Raise your hand if your reaction to that story was “Mexico has a navy?” Well, they do, and good for them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Gosh ! Michelle I thought this was common knowledge. Obviously you did not spend enough time in the southwest.  he he he</p>
<p>I only know this because my uncle served in the Mexican Navy and lives in Mazatlan.</p>
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		<title>By: WestCoastCoconut</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestCoastCoconut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Die Hippie, Die  Mexico has even sent a Mexican into space!!!  Seriously!!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodolfo_Neri_Vela&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rodolfo Neri Vela&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Die Hippie, Die  Mexico has even sent a Mexican into space!!!  Seriously!!</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodolfo_Neri_Vela" rel="nofollow">Rodolfo Neri Vela</a></p>
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		<title>By: Yiddish Steel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yiddish Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, of course Mexico has a Navy, See-Dub.  They have an Air Force, too!

http://k41.pbase.com/g6/64/556864/2/82246966.BrLRF4MY.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, of course Mexico has a Navy, See-Dub.  They have an Air Force, too!</p>
<p><a href="http://k41.pbase.com/g6/64/556864/2/82246966.BrLRF4MY.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://k41.pbase.com/g6/64/556864/2/82246966.BrLRF4MY.jpg</a></p>
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