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What Dems can’t say about drilling

By Michelle Malkin  •  July 18, 2008 09:52 AM

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  1. #1
    On July 18th, 2008 at 9:58 am, rondogg said:

    I can’t believe this came from the Post. Well written, articulate, and most of all, absolutely dead on.

  2. #2
    On July 18th, 2008 at 9:58 am, brad_sk said:

    Michelle, why isn’t there any post from you on the Bush administration’s stunning reversal on its stand on Iran? Did you conveniently forget?

    This oil hypocrisy from Dems is a old issue. I dont understand why you spinning it again and again.

  3. #3
    On July 18th, 2008 at 9:59 am, fourstringfuror said:

    For many years, those who spread apocalyptic global-warming scenarios have warned me that a collective national sacrifice was needed to save the world.

    Including Bill O’Reilly, I might add. He’s no liberal, but he’s not exactly a conservative, either.

    The scenario the author describes here is exactly, precisely what Obama and the Democrats want. Rather than offering solutions for lowering the price of gas, this is an opportunity for them to raise our taxes, create new ones, all the while doing absolutely nothing to alleviate the situation.

    Single digit approval? Si, se puede!

  4. #4
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:04 am, fourstringfuror said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 9:58 am, brad_sk said:
    Michelle, why isn’t there any post from you on the Bush administration’s stunning reversal on its stand on Iran? Did you conveniently forget?

    Please stay on topic. You can email her.

  5. #5
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:05 am, DesertLover said:

    Holy Dingbats Batman !!!

    A breath of reason from the midst of a true bastion of environmental extremism?

    Who spiked the kool aid?

    H must be freezing over …

  6. #6
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:06 am, Ron Rockstar said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 9:58 am, brad_sk said:
    Michelle, why isn’t there any post from you on the Bush administration’s stunning reversal on its stand on Iran?

    Brad, why don’t you start your own blog?

  7. #7
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:07 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Release oil from the Strategic Reserve! That’s the Dems plan, which, coincidentally really isn’t a plan at all. Shocker!… just more band-aid fixes to a problem they’ve exacerbated. The pressure is on them - not Bush and that brings a smile to my face.

  8. #8
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:10 am, sonofdy said:

    Release oil from the Strategic Reserve

    This has the double effect of doing nothing to lower gas prices and reducing military preparedness.

  9. #9
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:12 am, abstractmind said:

    Something dems havent considered is what happens after the reserve is opened up? It’s not limitless, and really wouldnt put that much of a dent in things. It removes the reserves…but doesnt increase the standard supply.

    Drill. Drill now. Drill everywhere. Lets increase our domestic supply and help make ourselves more energy independant.

  10. #10
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:17 am, Barry F. said:

    No, drilling isn’t “the answer.” Yet, the potential positives from increasing domestic supply outweigh any concerns of the opposition. Certainly any they can talk about in public.

    Yeah. What he said. ;-)

  11. #11
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:19 am, Lifeofthemind said:

    “All the ills of democracy can be cured by more democracy.”
    Gov. Al Smith

    The cures for the problems of modern technology can be found by unleaashing human creativity to produce better technology.

  12. #12
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:22 am, Barry F. said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:07 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Release oil from the Strategic Reserve! That’s the Dems plan, which, coincidentally really isn’t a plan at all.

    Actually, I believe it is their plan, 30. Not a plan to bring oil prices back down to stay but, rather, to artificially and temporarily bring them down, so the price of gas at the pump isn’t such a big issue for the Dems in November.

    They are hurting right now with their resistance to do anything to substantively reduce our dependence on foreign oil from hostile countries. So, anything they can do to get gas prices down, so it isn’t at the front of voters’ minds at the polls in November would work to their benefit. What worries me is that they’ll make Bush feel like he should do that and that he concedes, which will take the heat off of them.

  13. #13
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:23 am, Lifeofthemind said:

    If we can get oil out of adolescent skin blemishes let some genius figure out how to make money off it and power the lights.

    Drill Now. Drill Everywhere.

    Get alternatives online and drain the last drop from the arabs. When they have nothing and we have a future we can kick them to the curb.

  14. #14
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:25 am, sonofdy said:

    Over on huffpo, the consensus solution to the problem of high gas prices is impeaching the president and vice president. Big suprise right?

  15. #15
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:26 am, Lifeofthemind said:

    On the strategic reserve the Dems may be right, by accident. Newt Gingrich wants to do this also. Good market sense says:

    Buy Low, Sell High.

  16. #16
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:26 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    The Democrats will hang themselves in 2008 and 2012. So much for embracing the “death culture”.

  17. #17
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:27 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:22 am, Barry F. said:

    Yeah. I know. We’ll see how this all plays out.

  18. #18
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:28 am, magicarb said:

    Supply. Demand.

    Congress. Inaction.

    Elections. Consequences.

  19. #19
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:38 am, kcnut said:

    Brad your out of your element also the dem wont drill anwr till bush is out cause they want bo to take the credit for helping america and tax us while doing the drilling.

  20. #20
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:39 am, fluffy said:

    brad_sk trolled:

    This oil hypocrisy from Dems is a old issue. I dont understand why you spinning it again and again.

    persistent: lasting or enduring tenaciously

    Brad, Michelle is not spinning. Her point of view if direct. The Democrats are doing the spinning. This is not an academic exercise. The Democrats refusal to change is harming our economy. Their non-sense was harmful during the Clinton administration, it is harmful now. We could absorb a little extra fuel cost, but now it is reaching the point where people are going to be put out of work.

  21. #21
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:42 am, Concerned Citizen said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:10 am, sonofdy said:
    Release oil from the Strategic Reserve
    This has the double effect of doing nothing to lower gas prices and reducing military preparedness.

    This really is a win-win for Democrats. Gas prices drop temporarily and the Dems take credit. Then when we have to replenish those stocks at a much higher price than when originally purchased, the Dems get to raise taxes to pay for it and blame President Bush for making his oil buddies rich.

    Drill now.

  22. #22
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:42 am, Marshall Russ said:

    The liberals have been caught between their environmental idiocy and reality. Liberalism works only in a fantasy world. Environmental and anti-capitalist groups and their minions have the Democrats by the short hairs on this issue. The Republicans in congress , if there are enough of them smart enough, could get back the leadership of congress. As we have seen since the election of 06, leadership matters.

  23. #23
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:45 am, kcnut said:

    Also bo i think want america to suffer cause then he’ll expand gov. Like you wouldn’t believe and give pork to his huff po masters. Bo is going to set back black 500 years the way he going.

  24. #24
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:45 am, jsr said:

    Since Nancy Pelosi can’t seem to grasp what we are facing here I offer the following analogy for her:

    Imagine you have lost your job. However you need to go on paying your bills. The solution she proposes is

    1. Spend less money
    2. Use what money you have in the bank
    3. Buy lottery tickets in hope of winning big
    4. But under no circumstances are you to look for a job as this will not pay your bills today

  25. #25
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:46 am, Doug said:

    Now the DEMs are saying they want to drill, here and now. (Only where the oil isn’t of course) What a ruse, do they really think that little of the intelligence of the American People?

    I will be off for a bit, while I sharpen my Pitchfork!

  26. #26
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:46 am, babbledabble said:

    Truly surprising article especially coming from Denver of all places. Maybe he is the only conservative left in the city.

    I read opening the strategic oil reseves might only reduce the price of oil a few pennies.

  27. #27
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:48 am, Dimsdale said:

    It just solidly reiterates the obvious truth: if it is good for America (and by extension, Bush), then it is bad for the Democrats. And vice versa.

    On July 18th, 2008 at 9:58 am, brad_sk said:

    Michelle, why isn’t there any post from you on the Bush administration’s stunning reversal on its stand on Iran? Did you conveniently forget?

    This oil hypocrisy from Dems is a old issue. I dont understand why you spinning it again and again.

    What don’t you understand? I get “spun” everytime I fill up the tank on my vehicle. Did you take a look at heating oil prices lately? Wait until the Northeast liberals start paying to heat their home (which most do with oil). Just in time for the election, LOL!

    Old hypocrisy that we are paying for today. And will pay for until we get to our own resources ASAP.

    Educate yourself: read Lord Monckton’s recent paper http://www.aps.org/units/fps/newsletters/200807/monckton.cfm

    Real scientists using real data to come to real conclusions. And none of them good for the AGW chicken littles.

  28. #28
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:58 am, GaMidnightRider said:

    If the Dems had let the drilling begin 20 years ago we would not be in this mess. They voted down drilling under Clinton so in fact they are to blame for what we are going through now. People who do not see what the Dems and liberals have caused are like what Rush says…” Stuck on Stupid”

  29. #29
    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:01 am, twiggman said:

    Actually, I think releasing oil from the reserve is illegal under the current laws…

  30. #30
    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:04 am, katieanne said:

    Stuck on stupid is right. Pelosi lied about having a plan in the 2006 election and continues to offer nothing to help the American people through the energy crisis. IMO, Newt has the best plan…do it all and the best options will rise to the top.

  31. #31
    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:05 am, beenthere said:

    On the strategic reserve the Dems may be right, by accident. Newt Gingrich wants to do this also.

    Anytime a “republican” is caught agreeing with the Dems, alarm bells should go off, but they seldom do. I am at a complete loss to understanding the continual appeal of Newt Gingrich. I have no doubt he supports the democrat positions regarding the strategic reserve. He also buys into the global warming rubbish as much as McCain, he supports Affirmative Action, he thinks speculators are a big source of the energy cost problem and wants to crack down on them. I am sure there is a lot more that others can add to the list. Whatever his service to the country in the past, like McCain, Gingrich has moved on. And like McCain, he is now part of the problem, not the solution.

  32. #32
    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:05 am, Barry F. said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:01 am, twiggman said:

    I don’t know that it is “illegal”. It is very unwise. But, if I recall correctly, Bush released some from it a while back.

  33. #33
    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:07 am, swmbo said:

    K C Nut, I sure agree with this

    the dems won’t drill anwr till Bush is out cause they want to take the credit for helping America and tax us while doing the drilling.

    Shame on Dems for not caring what happens to the economy while they play their games.

  34. #34
    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:07 am, EdDantes said:

    And here is the shocking (well, not shocking) hypocrisy…

    Dems want to “plan ahead” to prevent man made global warming from destroying our planet in 100 years, but won’t approve offshore drilling because it won’t have an immediate impact on the economy. Last time I checked, compliance with the Kyoto protocols won’t have an immediate environmental impact (although it does have immediate economic consequences) but the Dems are plenty happy to rally around that!

  35. #35
    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:09 am, babbledabble said:

    Apparently is it illegal to use oil reserve unless it is a “national emergency”. But San Fran Nan claimed this WAS an emergency. And if the Queen of the Junior Prom said so, then it must be true. sarc/off

  36. #36
    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:09 am, sambo said:

    Dimsdale said:
    Did you take a look at heating oil prices lately? Wait until the Northeast liberals start paying to heat their home (which most do with oil). Just in time for the election, LOL!

    Don’t be silly Dimsdale. The Northeast liberals get there heating oil at discount from there best buddy Hugo.

  37. #37
    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:12 am, twiggman said:

    I think Bush released some for war reasons, But to do it for market reasons I don’t think it’s legal. I heard something after san fran nan brought it up. But I could be wrong..It wouldn’t be the first time…

  38. #38
    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:26 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:05 am, Barry F. said:
    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:01 am, twiggman said:
    I don’t know that it is “illegal”. It is very unwise. But, if I recall correctly, Bush released some from it a while back.

    Bush senior released oil from the strategic reserves for war reasons. GW released oil due to Hurricane Katrina.

  39. #39
    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:28 am, twiggman said:

    That’s right!… THANKS 30

  40. #40
    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:28 am, Barry F. said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:12 am, twiggman said:

    It can be release under certain circumstances.

    The Strategic Petroleum Reserve exists, first and foremost, as an emergency response tool the President can use should the United States be confronted with an economically-threatening disruption in oil supplies.

    He released it in 2005 in response to Hurricane Katrina…

    …in September 2005 after Hurricane Katrina devastated the oil production, distribution, and refining industries in the Gulf regions of Louisiana and Mississippi…

    …The Hurricane Katrina loans, mentioned above, were conducted using the exchange authority.

    That was the draw down to sell option used then.

  41. #41
    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:33 am, twiggman said:

    Barry F, thank you very informative…

  42. #42
    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:41 am, countrybumpkin said:

    Perhaps we would be better off if instead of having the government run the oil business, the oil companies ran the government.
    Any of Ken Lay’s friends available?
    Couldn’t be worse could it?

  43. #43
    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:41 am, Pro Cynic said:

    Like I keep saying, then Dems plan for energy is this:

    1. Stop using fossil fuels
    2. ?
    3. Clean energy

    They are like the underpants gnomes from South Park.

  44. #44
    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:58 am, lgm said:

    One day Americans are moaning about the harmful impact of cheap oil and the next they’re grousing about the harmful impact of expensive oil.

    Which one is it?

    It’s the harmful impact of any kind of oil — global warming. This writer is playing dumb.

  45. #45
    On July 18th, 2008 at 12:00 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:58 am, lgm said:

    …This writer is playing dumb.

    And, that is from someone who doesn’t have to play the part. ;-)

  46. #46
    On July 18th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Faster, Washington! Drill, drill!
    A recent Zogby International polls shows 74 percent of likely voters support offshore drilling in U.S. coastal waters, and 59 percent favor drilling for oil in the tundra of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

    IF that translates to votes in November it is a good thing. If not it doesn’t matter.

    countrybumpkin said:

    Any of Ken Lay’s friends available?
    Couldn’t be worse could it?

    Ken Lay and friends were much like the Democrats–they did not drill for oil, own any oil or deliver much energy. They just moved other people’s money around and skimmed a bunch for themselves. They could well be the model for Pelois and Dingy Harry. Their group will be called EndRod. They need some place to stick that windmill, taxpayer.

  47. #47
    On July 18th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, wighttrasch said:

    The Dems don’t actually believe in global warming crap. This is just a big money-making, vote-getting, power-grabbing scheme.

    Don’t ever think they have any concern for conservation or prosperity, or, shudder, the greater good of this country.

  48. #48
    On July 18th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, sonofdy said:

    LGM -

    It’s the harmful impact of any kind of oil — global warming. This writer is playing dumb.

    Global warming is a myth. I can show you 31,072 scientists who agree with me.

  49. #49
    On July 18th, 2008 at 12:10 pm, sonofdy said:
  50. #50
    On July 18th, 2008 at 12:16 pm, Karmi said:

    Don’t worry, though, congressional Democrats have a bold plan. Hold on for 10 or 15 years and they’ll have a bounty of energy options. They promise.

    That’s what they have been saying for over 30 years. What they won’t say, is how their irresponsible polices also contributed to the destruction by hurricane Katrina, and how their irresponsible polices are affecting our forests.

  51. #51
    On July 18th, 2008 at 12:18 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    The only thing Democrats are concerned with is maintaining their power at any cost. They will refuse to drill for more oil, only because the greens will vote them out of office.

    This, at the expense of the entire nation. The most irresponsible congress I have ever seen in my lifetime is now.

    Tapping the strategic oil reserve now is the dumbest idea in the world, as it would only make the US more vulnerable.

    And it wouldn’t do a thing for gas prices.

    How about drilling more, and cutting taxes? How about setting up more refineries?

  52. #52
    On July 18th, 2008 at 12:29 pm, dan708 said:

    Since Democrats are in the act of committing political suicide, perhaps the rest of us should stand by and watch as they tie their own nooses?
    NAAAHHH! It’s too much fun to point out their arrogance and stupidity!

  53. #53
    On July 18th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, fluffy said:

    Our very special troll said:

    It’s the harmful impact of any kind of oil — global warming.

    This is why you flunked science in 5th grade. The sun causes global warming, not oil. The earth doesn’t produce a lot of energy, it is more like a battery.

    Fossil fuels are fossilized plant matter. They trapped energy from the sun, died and got compressed into carbon rich mineral deposits.

    photosynthesis

  54. #54
    On July 18th, 2008 at 12:43 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    The article might have some merit if the author provided any substance to his claims. Minus any factual evidence of Dems profiteering from alternative energies, his theory holds as much water as 9/11 truthers’ ones. I can just as easily say that the Repubs drill now rhetoric is influenced by their monetary ties to the oil industry.

  55. #55
    On July 18th, 2008 at 12:54 pm, J S Ragman said:

    #54

    It is a fact that the federal government makes an immediate 25% profit from all oil and natural gas produced on land that they lease to oil companies to drill on. That is before the oil is refined and they make an additional 45 cents a gallon in taxes on gasoline.

    If the majority in Congress wanted to increase revenue and help solve the problem of high gas prices, it would seem to be a no-brainer to allow more drilling. But, it appears to me that they are only interested in pandering to their “green” constituency, and denying Republicans any chance to solve the problem before November. Can you propose an alternate interpretation?

  56. #56
    On July 18th, 2008 at 12:56 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    But finding E85 is a bigger challenge, part of the reason that environmental
    advocates are critical of the program.

    It’s a hoax on the public,” argued Dan Becker, a Sierra Club analyst in
    Washington.

    Environmentalists have mixed opinions about ethanol to begin with, noting
    studies showing that it can worsen smog (while cutting down on carbon monoxide
    pollution). But Becker said his organization is especially concerned because
    the E85 credit has enabled automakers to build more gas-guzzling vehicles and
    fewer that are efficient when burning gasoline.

    Now where have I heard that before? Everything liberals do not agree with are now being dubbed hoaxes.

  57. #57
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:01 pm, Mister P said:

    A recent Zogby International polls shows 74 percent of likely voters support offshore drilling in U.S. coastal waters, and 59 percent favor drilling for oil in the tundra of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

    I think if people start discovering the truth those numbers go up considerably.

    First it has to learn the truth about ANWR (ANyWheRe” as in if you can’t drill here you can’t drill anywhere). It is a vast WASTELAND. It has no trees (except for what some botanist called trees - we would call it stunted grass). It has NO permanent Carabou residents (they wander in from the Yukon to calf). It will NOT be damaged by oil drilling (The drills will be hard to find). It is 75 miles from the Alaskan pipeline and it will bring oil in just a few years (not 10). It was “protected” by the democrats to stop ALL drilling. If you can drill in the wasteland of the arctic circle, you can not drill anywhere. McCain both into the idiocy (he seems fond of listening to dopes).

    Meanwhile offshore drilling HELPS the environment by lowering the pollution caused by seepage. But since the “environmentalists” believe in NO DRILLING and not protecting the environment, it will matter little to them. But to the 90 percent of the rest of us, it matters a lot.

    It will bring in oil in ONE year, as there are abandoned rigs that can quickly start drilling.

  58. #58
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:02 pm, Gabe said:

    These Dems are beyond parody. This is what Diane Feinstein has to say today about drilling:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-feinstein18-2008jul18,0,4750904.story

    If she were a settler of Jamestown facing a spring shortage of food, no joke, she would have stated that planting more seeds would be a “distraction” and not a solution. Therefore, don’t plant anything because it won’t help the shortage now. Liberals are so clueless.

    Drill here. Drill NOW. Pay less.

  59. #59
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:05 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    Gabe,

    What does Feinstein say that isn’t true?

  60. #60
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:05 pm, wise_man said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 9:58 am, brad_sk said: Michelle, why isn’t there any post from you on the Bush administration’s stunning reversal on its stand on Iran? Did you conveniently forget?

    I had to look it up. On Olbermann’s show, This guy named Rachel Maddow claimed that Bush was adopting Obama’s position on Iran. Like - Bush as watching Obama on CNN and said ‘that’s a great idea Obama has, I’m gunna dooe it too!!’

    When the truth is that they are sending someone to listen.

    Did you catch that Maddow guy making this claim first hand?

  61. #61
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:13 pm, mojack420 said:

    out of the mouth of difi

    Oil markets are global. Economic growth around the world — including millions of new cars in Asia — means demand for oil is on the rise. With less than 3% of the world’s oil reserves, our nation simply doesn’t have enough domestic oil to dramatically lower the price.

    and then we see oil drop

    Take President Bush’s ceremonial lifting of the moratorium on offshore drilling this week. By happenstance, I guess, within the next three days the price of oil per barrel had fallen more than $15 — the largest such drop in five years.

    Wrong again difi but thats nothing new for you . how are those fat defense contracts working out you handed to your husband . I am sure you can afford 4$ + a gallon , like you pay for your own gas anyway .

  62. #62
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:15 pm, Gabe said:

    Gabe,

    What does Feinstein say that isn’t true?

    What she says that isn’t true is that a huge increase of supply won’t bring down prices. She evidently knows nothing about economics.

    Also, if we can greatly increase OUR supply of oil by drilling, the Middle East countries will be forced to compete, thus lowering prices. It is common sense, something liberals lack.

  63. #63
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:15 pm, xler8bmw said:

    A few weeks ago Reid told Bush he could use exec powers to lift the ban and now pelosi and reid fighting it. These to must be manic depressive.

  64. #64
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:26 pm, rambler said:

    Our bi-polar liberal dems don’t have any ideas until the republicans come up with them. Then the dems say how the ideas won’t work until the public forgets the ideas, followed by the dems adopting these same ideas and claiming it was a democratic idea all along.

  65. #65
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Okay. So let me get this straight…by liberal (diane f) logic: oil companies already have leases for land where they can drill for oil but don’t because the oil companies want to drive up the cost of oil for their own profits, i.e. keep supply artificially low so prices increase. However, the same companies want access to drill in other areas so they can increase supply…oops, they can’t want to increase supply because we already said they want to lower supply to manipulate price…hmmm, well they must want to drill offshore just for the sheer thrill of risking environmental catastrophe. that’s it. People will buy it…you know, evil corporations, oil companies and all that. Just make sure you pronounce evil as eeeeevvvviiiiiilllll and do the voice shake thing to get your point across. Yeah…that always gives me chills, scares me like rush in a speedo.

  66. #66
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, mojack420 said:

    It is common sense, something liberals lack.

    yeah what he said .

    Also the oil spill that closed the west coast to exploration was in 1969. How many platforms went down and spilled in the gulf during Katrina. By libertard logic there has been no advances in safety and control in the last 40 years.
    Drill here drill now drill drill drill so we have a hedge until new technologies come on line. Just look at Brazil they drilled and whoops they found 2 new huge oil fields.

  67. #67
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:29 pm, starlightwoman said:

    This actually came out of Denver - where the liberals will come out of the woodwork next month???!!!!

  68. #68
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, twiggman said:

    30 #65 STOP IT..you re making waaaaaaay to much sense, the lib-tards heads will EXPLODE…

  69. #69
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:36 pm, Capt Howdy said:

    This “Dems won’t let us drill” line that conservatives are chanting in unison these days - it makes me wonder…

    Where was Bush and the Republican congress on this issue back when they controlled every branch of government for 6 WHOLE YEARS? Why didn’t they do something then when the Dems couldn’t stop them?

  70. #70
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:37 pm, Mostly Annoyed said:

    “Drill here drill now drill drill drill so we have a hedge until new technologies come on line.”

    I have to agree with this and I’ll say it again, nothing scares the oil traders and producers like the government committing to spending a lot of money over several years on research and development of alternative power sources. They can’t drop the prices fast enough so everything else is too expensive. the internal combustion engine is a very ineficient use of oil.

  71. #71
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, twiggman said:

    What was I thinking…30 GO FOR IT make the lib-tards heads explode…

  72. #72
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:39 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    twiggman,
    They are maddening and I can’t believe people actually vote them in office.

  73. #73
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:40 pm, twiggman said:

    30 - I’m with you on that for sure…

  74. #74
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:42 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Where was Bush and the Republican congress on this issue back when they controlled every branch of government for 6 WHOLE YEARS? Why didn’t they do something then when the Dems couldn’t stop them?

    Gas prices weren’t spiraling out of control then. Perhaps, this is a case of the squeaky wheel getting the oil. No pun intended.

    The only thing different from then and now is that Democrats have the majority in Congress and Nancy promised to bring down gas prices. Where’s the accountability?

  75. #75
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:43 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    n July 18th, 2008 at 1:13 pm, mojack420 said:
    Take President Bush’s ceremonial lifting of the moratorium on offshore drilling this week. By happenstance, I guess, within the next three days the price of oil per barrel had fallen more than $15 — the largest such drop in five years.

    Or more likely, it could be due to the fact that “Crude-oil and gasoline inventories rose last week, according to government data released Wednesday. Both gains defied analysts’ expectations.” (source)

    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:15 pm, Gabe said:

    What she says that isn’t true is that a huge increase of supply won’t bring down prices.

    Where did she say that? Off-shore drilling will not provide an increase in supply for another 10 years. Meanwhile demand for energy will continue to grow, so buy the time those off-shore wells produce we will be in the same supply-demand problem. Alternative energy is the only real long-term solution. That’s why Mercedes recently stated it will stop producing gas-fueled engines in 10 years, and I’m sure Toyota is not far behind. If we want a real short-term solution, we should focus on the value of the dollar: stabilize the economy, stop deficit spending, and then raise interest rates.

  76. #76
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:58 pm, Capt Howdy said:

    #74 30 pcs of silver wrote, “Gas prices weren’t spiraling out of control then.”

    Not true at all, maybe they weren’t “spiraling out of control” but if you remember back to the 2000 election, gas prices were a very big issue. Very big.

    http://people-press.org/report/19/rising-price-of-gas-draws-most-public-interest-in-2000

    And the GOP swept into office, winning everything and with a pretty clear mandate to get stuff done, including coming up with a long-term energy policy.

    And what did they do? They got stuck on ANWR and couldn’t come up with anything else.

    Accountability anyone?

  77. #77
    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:58 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:43 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    Let me get this straight, you are citing 10 years on seeing anything from domestic oil acquisitions (contrary to what others project as 4-5) but have the audacity to talk about “long-term solutions” that are projected to be even father off in the future.

    How about this, drill here - now - to start getting something in place sooner and still work on the alternative energy sources that are farther down the road?

  78. #78
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:00 pm, Hannibal said:

    #59 TOS asked Gabe what Feinstein was lying about. She lied when she stated:

    “The vast majority of the outer continental shelf is already open to oil exploration”.

    I have seen the maps of the areas open to exploration and those off limits. The off limits area of the OCS is 85% of the total. 15% is not the “vast majority” and that makes Ms. Feinstein a liar.

  79. #79
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:03 pm, rpg1616 said:

    This is so obviously a case of the Democrats stalling and creating smoke screens in order to pander to the environmental special interest at the expense of the average citizen that it shouldn’t even have to be said.

  80. #80
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:04 pm, jsr said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 11:58 am, lgm said:

    It’s the harmful impact of any kind of oil — global warming. This writer is playing dumb.

    lgm,

    I am curious why you are not out trying to find alternatives to hydrocarbons. There are plenty of companies doing research that could use a good mathematician. That way you could be part of the solution. And when you make some amazing breakthroughs (which are no doubt just around the corner) you use them to beat us over the head, instead of snipping at us from academia. Hell, we might even say your right about global warming if you you would just come up with something useful, realistic and economical. Then you could also say you helped solve the global warming crisis, not to mention the conservative blogger crisis.

  81. #81
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:06 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:58 pm, Capt Howdy said:

    So, are you saying that since this was an issue on Repubs watch and they didn’t do anything about it. It’s permissible for Dems to do the same?

    As you have admitted - gas prices, although an issue weren’t as big an issue then as it is now. And personally, I like to deal with what we are facing today… not the other way around.

  82. #82
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:19 pm, Capt Howdy said:

    #81 30 pcs of silver,

    I’m saying that all this demagoguery looks like classic GOP election year posturing and that if they were to somehow sweep back into office like they did in 2000, controlling everything, the GOP would likely do…

    NOTHING.

    Don’t believe me? Look at what the GOP did during 2000-2006.

  83. #83
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:26 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:06 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Anything to try to divert the public’s attention from the failed Dem leadership in Congress will do, 30 - anything.

    They’ll pull out all the stops to redirect, distract, etc. in the coming months, as the Congressional approval ratings continue to plummet.

    Heaven forbid that they actually try to make a positive substantive change in “most honest, most open, and most ethical Congress in history” that San Fran Nan promised. :roll:

  84. #84
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:27 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Capt. Howdy,
    Do you deny that gas prices are out of control? If no, I could careless about the political posturing - I’m for whoever has a solution to the problem.

    You should take your ire and direct it to the Dems for placing themselves in the unfortunate position of not having taken this issue and running with it when they had the chance. Pelosi knew it was an issue - so much so that in 2006 she stated that she would lower gas prices. This statement may have been what caused Dems to sweep in 2006. However, as we have learned it was all talk. She hasn’t lowered gas prices, instead they are ridiculously high and you want to debate what Repubs didn’t do years ago. I think it was a stupid move not to have addressed it. They lost the high ground. The Dems used it against them and now it’s come back to bit them in the arse.

    Say what you want - but this falls on the Dems, circa 2008.

  85. #85
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:29 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Barry F,
    Seriously.

    They are coming out of the woodworks.

  86. #86
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:19 pm, Capt Howdy said:

    Don’t believe me? Look at what the GOP did during 2000-2006.

    Why, yes. It certainly pales in comparison to the abudance of things accomplished by Pelosi and Reid.

    Those danged Republicans weren’t able to get tofu on the menu in the congressional cafeteria - but Nan was - or get earmarks in that monstrosity Omnibus bill for organic meals in cafeterias in CA - but Nan was.

    So, there, 30. Don’t say the Dems can’t get something done! Neener, neener, neener. :P :lol:

  87. #87
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:31 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    The Dems used it against them and now it’s come back to bit them in the arse.

    I think I should clarify.

    The Dems used the gas prices at that time against the Repubs and now the same issue has not only cropped back up - it’s completely out of control under the Dems watch… They promised to bring the prices down. Promises. Promises.

  88. #88
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:33 pm, mojack420 said:

    #78 Hannibal said: I have seen the maps of the areas open to exploration and those off limits. The off limits area of the OCS is 85% of the total. 15% is not the “vast majority” and that makes Ms. Feinstein a liar.

    LOL i knew she was a liar even back when she was nothing more then an elitist SF stupidvisor . Its good to see she dosnt change .

  89. #89
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:34 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    That’s why Mercedes recently stated it will stop producing gas-fueled engines in 10 years, and I’m sure Toyota is not far behind.

    If what say is true then we’d better start building nuclear power plants in a hurry…or we’ll have to keep burning oil to provide all that electricity for cars to run on.

  90. #90
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Barry,
    You play liberal well. ;-)

  91. #91
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:36 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:58 pm, Barry F. said:
    Let me get this straight, you are citing 10 years on seeing anything from domestic oil acquisitions (contrary to what others project as 4-5) but have the audacity to talk about “long-term solutions” that are projected to be even father off in the future.

    4-5 years…get real! You’d be lucky to get your hands on an drilling rig in 4-5 years.

    The Energy and Information Administration concluded in a 2007 report that:

    EIA: The projections in the OCS (Outer Continental Shelf) access case indicate that access to the Pacific, Atlantic, and eastern Gulf regions would not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030.

    Something that takes 22 years to deliver significant results hardly qualifies as a “short-term” solution.

    Why would it take so long? To vastly oversimplify: First, the government has to identify properties to be leased and hold a lease sale. Then, winning bidders need to contract with drilling rigs (all of which are booked for the next five years, according to the New York Times), drill exploratory holes and analyze core samples – “They drilled 75 holes in the North Sea before they figured out the geology” sufficiently to begin drilling productive wells, says Lucian Pugliaresi, president of the oil industry-funded Energy Policy Research Foundation Inc. And then, if oil is found, companies would have to order and put in place production equipment, build pipelines to get the oil to shore, and get various permits and environmental analyses every step of the way.

    source

    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:00 pm, Hannibal said:
    #59 TOS asked Gabe what Feinstein was lying about. She lied when she stated:

    “The vast majority of the outer continental shelf is already open to oil exploration”.

    I have seen the maps of the areas open to exploration and those off limits. The off limits area of the OCS is 85% of the total. 15% is not the “vast majority” and that makes Ms. Feinstein a liar.

    Maybe going by square mileage, but she is accurate if you go on available oil.

  92. #92
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:37 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Barry,
    You play liberal well.

    I had an exchange with lgm today on a thread and…I think it may have taken a toll on me. ;-)

  93. #93
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:37 pm, mojack420 said:

    lol you cant have domestic oil but you can have all the tofu you can eat , well until BHO says you have had enough . I think i would rather eat oil then tofu at least oil has flavor :D

  94. #94
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, Barry F. said:

    Or, should that be troll on me? :lol:

  95. #95
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    yes, I like “troll on me” much better! :-)

  96. #96
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Where did she say that? Off-shore drilling will not provide an increase in supply for another 10 years. Meanwhile demand for energy will continue to grow, so buy the time those off-shore wells produce we will be in the same supply-demand problem

    So lie down and die, the Sky is Falling and Nothing Can Be Done!
    We heard all this crap in 1973; one of the networks ran a special “Will we freeze to death in the dark?” That was 35 years ago. It did not happen.
    Bio fuels are a joke, a sad joke.
    Wind & Solar can help-a little.
    Conservation is always a good idea-it saves money
    We have lots of oil
    We have more coal-with better technology
    Nuclear is doable

    And Nancy Pelosi and Dingy Harry and the Leftist whores will stop every one of them to bring down this administration and make the American people more dependant. Silly Sissies like to blame the Republicans for all this but notice:
    The spike came AFTER Pelosi and Dingy Harry announced they would block new drilling. The Democrats threw the market into a panic and now blame speculators–that is the Futures Market fool.

    Drill Here
    Drill now
    Pay Less

    This site is rather interesting too.

    THE PICKENS PLAN
    A corporate Raider gone Green?

  97. #97
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, twiggman said:

    There is a link under #43 with a chart that shows it all 30… I can’t seem to post it…

  98. #98
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:44 pm, Hannibal said:

    Opinions are really nice and like certain body parts, everyone has one. But I also have a great love for facts and it is disturbing when people make up their own facts.
    Capt Howdy cited a 2000 link about gas prices and then said in #76:

    “And the GOP swept into office, winning everything and with a pretty clear mandate to get stuff done, including coming up with a long-term energy policy”.

    Please pay attention Capt.

    Bush held the Electoral College with Florida by less than 300 votes and yes, he did not win the national vote total. The Senate was 50 dem and 50 Rep with the VP holding the swing vote. The House was 210 dem and 220 Rep. with 5 seats not filled on 1-21-01 at the start of the 107th Congress.

    Please reconsider your “sweep and mandate” statement in light of the facts. You do remember 2001 don’t you? You consider that a mandate? Pelosi and Reid have got a hell of a bigger mandate then existed in 2001.

  99. #99
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, Capt Howdy said:

    #84 30 pcs of silver,

    “…you want to debate what Repubs didn’t do years ago. I think it was a stupid move not to have addressed it. They lost the high ground. The Dems used it against them and now it’s come back to bit them in the arse.”

    It’s good to see you admit that Republican Party missed a huge opportunity to come up with a long term energy policy that could’ve included more drilling back in years 2000-2006, when they had so much more power.

    Now… what makes you think they would do any better if they were to win this year? ;-)

  100. #100
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:49 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, Capt Howdy said:

    Now… what makes you think they would do any better if they were to win this year?

    Hmmmm? Because the bar has been set pretty high to screw it up more than Pelosi and Reid?

    That wasn’t a trick question, was it? :lol:

  101. #101
    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:54 pm, sambo said:

    ArizonaNeanderthal said:
    THE PICKENS PLAN
    A corporate Raider gone Green?

    No. Someone with a financial interest in windpower and LNG cars. You know…kinda like Gore and global warming. But his idea might hold more water.

  102. #102
    On July 18th, 2008 at 3:01 pm, Capt Howdy said:

    #100 Barry F.

    Ha ha! Point taken.

    Except well… I keep going back to 2000-2006…

    No, Repubs would screw it up more. Sorry. ;-)

  103. #103
    On July 18th, 2008 at 3:03 pm, Speakup said:

    Take President Bush’s ceremonial lifting of the moratorium on offshore drilling this week. By happenstance, I guess, within the next three days the price of oil per barrel had fallen more than $15 — the largest such drop in five years.

    And yet, theres been almost no play about this.
    It should be recognized that because we’ve been forced (by the Democrats) to negotiate from such a weak position that the oil producing nations we buy from have had their way with our dollar, its value sucks, we support terrorist nations with it and we’re ripped off on top of it.
    The very instant the Pres. announced offshore and Alaska drilling were to be increase, the price of oil fell more at one time than maybe it ever has.
    Once our enemies allies got a clue we might not need them so much “change” came our way.

    So why can’t Americans look forward to more domestic oil? Well, because carbon is bad for you. Because countless Democrats believe that high prices will help wean us off this terrible addiction.

    For many, environmental concerns outweigh the economic well-being of citizens. For some, the migratory paths of caribou trump your selfish habit of heating and cooling your home.

    And yet, none dare call it a conspiracy.
    Want gas prices to fall, scream at Reid and Pelosi to knock off the restrictions they have on refineries.
    If theres one place to complain that includes both the oil companies and the Democrats its that a lack of adequate refining capacity has created high gas prices that have benefited hypocrite politicians and raised profits for oil companies.
    The liberals actually had the gall to bring oil execs to congress to club them over the head for (supposed) price gouging for a scenario they created.

    Shhhhh…hypocrites at work.

  104. #104
    On July 18th, 2008 at 3:23 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    If, for no other reason, we quit doing business with the Saudis, I am all for drilling ANWR(or Wyoming, who cares) and offshore. If we can stop doing any kind of business with dictators like Hugo Chavez, then I am definitely all for drilling our own. Real conservatives have have pushed for alternative energy ideas especially in vehicles for years and have been systematically shut-down, not by BIG OIL, but by politicians.

  105. #105
    On July 18th, 2008 at 3:43 pm, KaosKlerik said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 1:02 pm, Gabe posted a link to a Feinstien piece:
    Feinstien –
    First she says – Don’t drill, it’ll take years.

    Opening the protected areas of the continental shelf, on the other hand, wouldn’t produce a drop of oil for seven years or longer. It takes a minimum of two years to process the new leases. Industry experts tell us that there’s a three- to five-year waiting list for new drilling ships and other equipment.

    Then she says it would be better to cripple the economy with nannyism over those years.

    ChangingForcing our nation’s fuel consumption pattern to change is an enormous endeavor. It will take years. But this is the reality we face. And there’s no time to waste.

    There’s no time to waste becuse Americans might develop a solution on their own and then they would lose a chance to seize more power!

  106. #106
    On July 18th, 2008 at 4:10 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Hannibal said
    Please pay attention Capt.

    You ask too much Hannibal. The lad wants an Energy Policy ie: Federal mandates. The possiblity of the Federal Government getting out of the way is beyond some people. So in the name of
    All Coming Together
    Hope
    Change
    and keeping my gas guzzler on the road
    Yes We Can

    May I suggest:
    Drill Here
    Drill Now
    Pay Less
    Vote Republican

    Hey, three out of four isn’t bad.

    There’s no time to waste because Americans might develop a solution on their own and then they would lose a chance to seize more power!

    Seems to be the problem with a few on this list. Do you think they scream like algore and are wide eyed like Pelosi?

  107. #107
    On July 18th, 2008 at 4:11 pm, supersean said:

    I am not against drilling here in the States (Anwr is an option that can provide results much faster than offshore platforms) but the point is quite valid that we will not see a majority of these resources for 10+ years. Our policy of dependence on oil as an energy source is frail and is clearly impacting our national economy. How many tens of thousands of jobs have been lost due to airlines going out of business/// what about other industries where fuel prices have now become their #1 expense?

    The government should give the green light for companies to in currently restricted areas but should not provide incentives/funding/loan backing for these efforts. THe oil industry is one of the most profitable enterprises on the planet and they do not need a handout from me (I gave them # when filling up my rental the other day).

    If we invest a portion of government resources into alternative energies like natural gas and electric car the return on investment to the the government would outweigh and savings realized by the drops in a bucket from drilling our existing reserves.

    As for those trumpeting the 15 reduction in oil prices… my hunch is that this is a short term retreat that can be easily erased with 1 or 2 market rallies. Sadly we’ve reached the level of $150 oil

  108. #108
    On July 18th, 2008 at 4:13 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    No. Someone with a financial interest in windpower and LNG cars. You know…kinda like Gore and global warming. But his idea might hold more water.

    Sambo, did you just say algore can’t hold his water? That could explain a few things. Depends?

  109. #109
    On July 18th, 2008 at 4:38 pm, babbledabble said:

    Electric cars? Where does the elctricty come from?

    Oh yeah, just plug into the wall socket & voila it is magic. Electricity comes out.
    :-)

  110. #110
    On July 18th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, sambo said:

    ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    No. Someone with a financial interest in windpower and LNG cars. You know…kinda like Gore and global warming. But his idea might hold more water.

    Sambo, did you just say algore can’t hold his water? That could explain a few things. Depends?

    He can’t hold his hot air either.

  111. #111
    On July 18th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, DesertLover said:

    supersean

    sorry … published facts from oil drilling companies state the following about our expanded drilling options …

    ANWR … 2-3 years
    OCS … 3-5 years
    Shale Oil … 6-9 years

    This 10 years to get any new oil crap was thrown out right away by the Dems in Congress as a way to try to back their stupid stance on not drilling …

  112. #112
    On July 18th, 2008 at 4:59 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    DesertLover,

    Can you please provide links to these published facts. Thanks.

  113. #113
    On July 18th, 2008 at 5:14 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, DesertLover said:

    This 10 years to get any new oil crap was thrown out right away by the Dems in Congress as a way to try to back their stupid stance on not drilling

    Actually it was thrown out by the EIA

    The assumption that ANWR oil production would begin 10 years after legislation approves the Federal oil and natural gas leasing in the 1002 Area is based on the following 8-to-12 year timeline:

    - 2 to 3 years to obtain leases, including the development of a U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM) leasing program, which includes approval of an Environmental Impact Statement, the collection and analysis of seismic data, and the auction and award of leases.

    - 2 to 3 years to drill a single exploratory well. Exploratory wells are slower to drill because geophysical data are collected during drilling, e.g., rock cores and well logs. Typically, Alaska North Slope exploration wells take two full winter seasons to reach the desired depth.

    - 1 to 2 years to develop a production development plan and obtain BLM approval for that plan, if a commercial oil reservoir is discovered. Considerably more time could be required if the discovered oil reservoir is very deep, is filled with heavy oil, or is highly faulted. The petroleum company might have to collect more seismic data or drill delineation wells to confirm that the deposit is commercial.

    - 3 to 4 years to construct the feeder pipelines; to fabricate oil separation and treatment plants, and transport them up from the lower-48 States to the North Slope by ocean barge; construct drilling pads; drill to depth; and complete the wells.

    The 10-year timeline for developing ANWR petroleum resources assumes that there is no protracted legal battle in approving the BLM’s draft Environmental Impact Statement, the BLM’s approval to collect seismic data, or the BLM’s approval of a specific lease-development proposal.

  114. #114
    On July 18th, 2008 at 5:27 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, Capt Howdy said:

    Well. While you’re over here patting yourself on the back, we still don’t have issue put to rest just yet. Pelosi and crew need to put up or shut up and get out of the way.

  115. #115
    On July 18th, 2008 at 5:51 pm, DesertLover said:

    TheOtherSide

    The information I was quoting was from a report on FoxBusiness by Eric Bolling … the comments and quotes were not from the oil companies but rather from the drilling companies themselves which is who the oil companies contract with to drill wells for them … the companies talked to and quoted were Transocean and Diamond Offshore Drilling … I will have to see if it is on their website …

  116. #116
    On July 18th, 2008 at 6:40 pm, Boomer said:

    It would be wonderful if our do nothing Congress goes on their summer vacation allowing the President to declare a state of “National Emergency” (which this is becoming the more the Democrats drag their butts) and clear the oil company’s to drill anywhere in the US that may produce oil, while also allowing them to build refineries or increase capacity without EPA regulation. This along with allowing the unrestricted development and building of nuclear power plants in every state of the union would go a long way in getting us off the oil being imported from hostile countries around the world. I know I’m dreaming, but where there is hope there is life!

  117. #117
    On July 18th, 2008 at 6:42 pm, supersean said:

    DesertLover,

    In my post I said Anwr is a more rapid resolution to the issue. I did not mean to say that this option would take 10 years… if the oil industry invests the resources the offshore development can also be done much quicker but not in the 3-5 year range you mention. The capital equipment and many critical subsystems required to build out the infrastructure and pipelines would require much more time

  118. #118
    On July 18th, 2008 at 6:46 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    I liked the title of the article. Would make a good bumper sticker.

  119. #119
    On July 18th, 2008 at 7:34 pm, DesertLover said:

    BTW … Oil closed today at $128.88 … another big drop … the President did his part now it is time for this failed do-nothing congress to get off their collective butts and allow drilling … everywhere … period …

    All the alternative energy in the world is not going to run our cars for at least another 15-20 years while they develop viable and affordable options …

    Gotta do all of it at once …

    Sort of like the old Video Tape war … Betamax against VHS … VHS won out …
    and just had the Blu-Ray against HiDef battle which was won by Blu-Ray …

    It will be the same for all the things that will be tried for powering cars …

  120. #120
    On July 18th, 2008 at 8:17 pm, zorro said:

    Disingenuous democraps.

    On July 18th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, DesertLover said:

    supersean

    sorry … published facts from oil drilling companies state the following about our expanded drilling options …

    ANWR … 2-3 years
    OCS … 3-5 years
    Shale Oil … 6-9 years

    This 10 years to get any new oil crap was thrown out right away by the Dems in Congress as a way to try to back their stupid stance on not drilling

    I’ve read and heard the same numbers. The next step is to build 5 or 10 new refineries.

  121. #121
    On July 18th, 2008 at 8:40 pm, Papa Louie said:

    Don’t worry, though, congressional Democrats have a bold plan. Hold on for 10 or 15 years and they’ll have a bounty of energy options. They promise. But no oil shale. No clean coal. No nuclear power. And definitely no more oil.
    They will not enable your revolting, inefficient lifestyle.

    So when Pelosi said the Democrats had a commonsense plan to bring down gas prices in 2006, she was making it all up. Their real plan has nothing to do with bringing down the price of gas nor does it have anything to do with commonsense. If the Democrats think the country is ready to give up oil, let them lead the way. Show us how it can be done because I don’t think you can do it. Prove me wrong. (Besides, if all dems stop buying oil it will lower the price for the rest of us.)

  122. #122
    On July 18th, 2008 at 9:28 pm, Papa Louie said:

    TheOtherSide said:

    Off-shore drilling will not provide an increase in supply for another 10 years. Meanwhile demand for energy will continue to grow, so buy the time those off-shore wells produce we will be in the same supply-demand problem. Alternative energy is the only real long-term solution.

    I’ve got the solution to this dilemma. I propose that TheOtherSide and all his liberal friends stop buying oil products and switch to “the only real long-term solution”: alternative energy. If they would do this now and put their money where their mouths are, the demand for oil would immediately drop and so would the price. It would give the rest of us the time we need to drill for more oil and develop viable alternative energy at the same time. How about it, TheOtherSide?

  123. #123
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:04 pm, cicerokid said:

    The mere mention of drilling has the market dropping $21 a barrel. Releasing 1/2 of the strategic reserve would have an immediate and profound impact. Then fill the reserve at lower prices. “Sell high, buy low”.

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August 25, 2008 02:00 PM by Michelle Malkin

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“He’s still talkin’ ’bout the war on terror like it actually exists!”

Down with capitalism! Now, buy our shirts!

August 25, 2008 12:19 PM by Michelle Malkin

59 Comments | 0 Trackbacks

Capitali$m $uck$!

DNC returns $100,000 to Rangel

August 25, 2008 11:52 AM by Michelle Malkin

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Funny money.

Dems get special hurricane help

August 25, 2008 09:52 AM by Michelle Malkin

39 Comments | 0 Trackbacks

Taxpayers get sandbagged.

“A Mile High and an Inch Deep”

August 21, 2008 10:31 AM by Michelle Malkin

74 Comments | 7 Trackbacks

Let the games begin.

How to get reimbursed for Democrat convention travel

August 18, 2008 10:40 AM by Michelle Malkin

47 Comments | 3 Trackbacks

The art of taxpayer-funded write-offs.


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