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1. #380020
   On July 18th, 2008 at 2:49 pm, Barry F. said:

   On July 18th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, Capt Howdy said:

   Now… what makes you think they would do any better if they were to win this year?

   Hmmmm? Because the bar has been set pretty high to screw it up more than Pelosi and Reid?

   That wasn’t a trick question, was it?

2. #380027
   On July 18th, 2008 at 2:54 pm, sambo said:

   ArizonaNeanderthal said:
   THE PICKENS PLAN
   A corporate Raider gone Green?

   No. Someone with a financial interest in windpower and LNG cars. You know…kinda like Gore and global warming. But his idea might hold more water.

3. #380042
   On July 18th, 2008 at 3:01 pm, Capt Howdy said:

   #100 Barry F.

   Ha ha! Point taken.

   Except well… I keep going back to 2000-2006…

   No, Repubs would screw it up more. Sorry.

4. #380045
   On July 18th, 2008 at 3:03 pm, Speakup said:

   Take President Bush’s ceremonial lifting of the moratorium on offshore drilling this week. By happenstance, I guess, within the next three days the price of oil per barrel had fallen more than $15 — the largest such drop in five years.

   And yet, theres been almost no play about this.
   It should be recognized that because we’ve been forced (by the Democrats) to negotiate from such a weak position that the oil producing nations we buy from have had their way with our dollar, its value sucks, we support terrorist nations with it and we’re ripped off on top of it.
   The very instant the Pres. announced offshore and Alaska drilling were to be increase, the price of oil fell more at one time than maybe it ever has.
   Once our enemies allies got a clue we might not need them so much “change” came our way.

   So why can’t Americans look forward to more domestic oil? Well, because carbon is bad for you. Because countless Democrats believe that high prices will help wean us off this terrible addiction.

   For many, environmental concerns outweigh the economic well-being of citizens. For some, the migratory paths of caribou trump your selfish habit of heating and cooling your home.

   And yet, none dare call it a conspiracy.
   Want gas prices to fall, scream at Reid and Pelosi to knock off the restrictions they have on refineries.
   If theres one place to complain that includes both the oil companies and the Democrats its that a lack of adequate refining capacity has created high gas prices that have benefited hypocrite politicians and raised profits for oil companies.
   The liberals actually had the gall to bring oil execs to congress to club them over the head for (supposed) price gouging for a scenario they created.

   Shhhhh…hypocrites at work.

5. #380096
   On July 18th, 2008 at 3:23 pm, FirstSkirt said:

   If, for no other reason, we quit doing business with the Saudis, I am all for drilling ANWR(or Wyoming, who cares) and offshore. If we can stop doing any kind of business with dictators like Hugo Chavez, then I am definitely all for drilling our own. Real conservatives have have pushed for alternative energy ideas especially in vehicles for years and have been systematically shut-down, not by BIG OIL, but by politicians.

6. #380137
   On July 18th, 2008 at 3:43 pm, KaosKlerik said:

   On July 18th, 2008 at 1:02 pm, Gabe posted a link to a Feinstien piece:
   Feinstien –
   First she says – Don’t drill, it’ll take years.

   Opening the protected areas of the continental shelf, on the other hand, wouldn’t produce a drop of oil for seven years or longer. It takes a minimum of two years to process the new leases. Industry experts tell us that there’s a three- to five-year waiting list for new drilling ships and other equipment.

   Then she says it would be better to cripple the economy with nannyism over those years.

   ChangingForcing our nation’s fuel consumption pattern to change is an enormous endeavor. It will take years. But this is the reality we face. And there’s no time to waste.

   There’s no time to waste becuse Americans might develop a solution on their own and then they would lose a chance to seize more power!

7. #380180
   On July 18th, 2008 at 4:10 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

   Hannibal said
   Please pay attention Capt.

   You ask too much Hannibal. The lad wants an Energy Policy ie: Federal mandates. The possiblity of the Federal Government getting out of the way is beyond some people. So in the name of
   All Coming Together
   Hope
   Change
   and keeping my gas guzzler on the road
   Yes We Can

   May I suggest:
   Drill Here
   Drill Now
   Pay Less
   Vote Republican

   Hey, three out of four isn’t bad.

   There’s no time to waste because Americans might develop a solution on their own and then they would lose a chance to seize more power!

   Seems to be the problem with a few on this list. Do you think they scream like algore and are wide eyed like Pelosi?

8. #380182
   On July 18th, 2008 at 4:11 pm, supersean said:

   I am not against drilling here in the States (Anwr is an option that can provide results much faster than offshore platforms) but the point is quite valid that we will not see a majority of these resources for 10+ years. Our policy of dependence on oil as an energy source is frail and is clearly impacting our national economy. How many tens of thousands of jobs have been lost due to airlines going out of business/// what about other industries where fuel prices have now become their #1 expense?

   The government should give the green light for companies to in currently restricted areas but should not provide incentives/funding/loan backing for these efforts. THe oil industry is one of the most profitable enterprises on the planet and they do not need a handout from me (I gave them # when filling up my rental the other day).

   If we invest a portion of government resources into alternative energies like natural gas and electric car the return on investment to the the government would outweigh and savings realized by the drops in a bucket from drilling our existing reserves.

   As for those trumpeting the 15 reduction in oil prices… my hunch is that this is a short term retreat that can be easily erased with 1 or 2 market rallies. Sadly we’ve reached the level of $150 oil

9. #380183
   On July 18th, 2008 at 4:13 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

   No. Someone with a financial interest in windpower and LNG cars. You know…kinda like Gore and global warming. But his idea might hold more water.

   Sambo, did you just say algore can’t hold his water? That could explain a few things. Depends?

10. #380235
    On July 18th, 2008 at 4:38 pm, babbledabble said:

    Electric cars? Where does the elctricty come from?

    Oh yeah, just plug into the wall socket & voila it is magic. Electricity comes out.
    

11. #380245
    On July 18th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, sambo said:

    ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    No. Someone with a financial interest in windpower and LNG cars. You know…kinda like Gore and global warming. But his idea might hold more water.

    Sambo, did you just say algore can’t hold his water? That could explain a few things. Depends?

    He can’t hold his hot air either.

12. #380256
    On July 18th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, DesertLover said:

    supersean

    sorry … published facts from oil drilling companies state the following about our expanded drilling options …

    ANWR … 2-3 years
    OCS … 3-5 years
    Shale Oil … 6-9 years

    This 10 years to get any new oil crap was thrown out right away by the Dems in Congress as a way to try to back their stupid stance on not drilling …

13. #380258
    On July 18th, 2008 at 4:59 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    DesertLover,

    Can you please provide links to these published facts. Thanks.

14. #380277
    On July 18th, 2008 at 5:14 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, DesertLover said:

    This 10 years to get any new oil crap was thrown out right away by the Dems in Congress as a way to try to back their stupid stance on not drilling

    Actually it was thrown out by the EIA

    The assumption that ANWR oil production would begin 10 years after legislation approves the Federal oil and natural gas leasing in the 1002 Area is based on the following 8-to-12 year timeline:

    - 2 to 3 years to obtain leases, including the development of a U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM) leasing program, which includes approval of an Environmental Impact Statement, the collection and analysis of seismic data, and the auction and award of leases.

    - 2 to 3 years to drill a single exploratory well. Exploratory wells are slower to drill because geophysical data are collected during drilling, e.g., rock cores and well logs. Typically, Alaska North Slope exploration wells take two full winter seasons to reach the desired depth.

    - 1 to 2 years to develop a production development plan and obtain BLM approval for that plan, if a commercial oil reservoir is discovered. Considerably more time could be required if the discovered oil reservoir is very deep, is filled with heavy oil, or is highly faulted. The petroleum company might have to collect more seismic data or drill delineation wells to confirm that the deposit is commercial.

    - 3 to 4 years to construct the feeder pipelines; to fabricate oil separation and treatment plants, and transport them up from the lower-48 States to the North Slope by ocean barge; construct drilling pads; drill to depth; and complete the wells.

    The 10-year timeline for developing ANWR petroleum resources assumes that there is no protracted legal battle in approving the BLM’s draft Environmental Impact Statement, the BLM’s approval to collect seismic data, or the BLM’s approval of a specific lease-development proposal.

15. #380286
    On July 18th, 2008 at 5:27 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On July 18th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, Capt Howdy said:
    

    Well. While you’re over here patting yourself on the back, we still don’t have issue put to rest just yet. Pelosi and crew need to put up or shut up and get out of the way.

16. #380309
    On July 18th, 2008 at 5:51 pm, DesertLover said:

    TheOtherSide

    The information I was quoting was from a report on FoxBusiness by Eric Bolling … the comments and quotes were not from the oil companies but rather from the drilling companies themselves which is who the oil companies contract with to drill wells for them … the companies talked to and quoted were Transocean and Diamond Offshore Drilling … I will have to see if it is on their website …

17. #380360
    On July 18th, 2008 at 6:40 pm, Boomer said:

    It would be wonderful if our do nothing Congress goes on their summer vacation allowing the President to declare a state of “National Emergency” (which this is becoming the more the Democrats drag their butts) and clear the oil company’s to drill anywhere in the US that may produce oil, while also allowing them to build refineries or increase capacity without EPA regulation. This along with allowing the unrestricted development and building of nuclear power plants in every state of the union would go a long way in getting us off the oil being imported from hostile countries around the world. I know I’m dreaming, but where there is hope there is life!

18. #380364
    On July 18th, 2008 at 6:42 pm, supersean said:

    DesertLover,

    In my post I said Anwr is a more rapid resolution to the issue. I did not mean to say that this option would take 10 years… if the oil industry invests the resources the offshore development can also be done much quicker but not in the 3-5 year range you mention. The capital equipment and many critical subsystems required to build out the infrastructure and pipelines would require much more time

19. #380365
    On July 18th, 2008 at 6:46 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    I liked the title of the article. Would make a good bumper sticker.

20. #380394
    On July 18th, 2008 at 7:34 pm, DesertLover said:

    BTW … Oil closed today at $128.88 … another big drop … the President did his part now it is time for this failed do-nothing congress to get off their collective butts and allow drilling … everywhere … period …

    All the alternative energy in the world is not going to run our cars for at least another 15-20 years while they develop viable and affordable options …

    Gotta do all of it at once …

    Sort of like the old Video Tape war … Betamax against VHS … VHS won out …
    and just had the Blu-Ray against HiDef battle which was won by Blu-Ray …

    It will be the same for all the things that will be tried for powering cars …

21. #380453
    On July 18th, 2008 at 8:17 pm, zorro said:

    Disingenuous democraps.

    On July 18th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, DesertLover said:

    supersean

    sorry … published facts from oil drilling companies state the following about our expanded drilling options …

    ANWR … 2-3 years
    OCS … 3-5 years
    Shale Oil … 6-9 years

    This 10 years to get any new oil crap was thrown out right away by the Dems in Congress as a way to try to back their stupid stance on not drilling

    I’ve read and heard the same numbers. The next step is to build 5 or 10 new refineries.

22. #380470
    On July 18th, 2008 at 8:40 pm, Papa Louie said:

    Don’t worry, though, congressional Democrats have a bold plan. Hold on for 10 or 15 years and they’ll have a bounty of energy options. They promise. But no oil shale. No clean coal. No nuclear power. And definitely no more oil.
    They will not enable your revolting, inefficient lifestyle.

    So when Pelosi said the Democrats had a commonsense plan to bring down gas prices in 2006, she was making it all up. Their real plan has nothing to do with bringing down the price of gas nor does it have anything to do with commonsense. If the Democrats think the country is ready to give up oil, let them lead the way. Show us how it can be done because I don’t think you can do it. Prove me wrong. (Besides, if all dems stop buying oil it will lower the price for the rest of us.)

23. #380506
    On July 18th, 2008 at 9:28 pm, Papa Louie said:

    TheOtherSide said:

    Off-shore drilling will not provide an increase in supply for another 10 years. Meanwhile demand for energy will continue to grow, so buy the time those off-shore wells produce we will be in the same supply-demand problem. Alternative energy is the only real long-term solution.

    I’ve got the solution to this dilemma. I propose that TheOtherSide and all his liberal friends stop buying oil products and switch to “the only real long-term solution”: alternative energy. If they would do this now and put their money where their mouths are, the demand for oil would immediately drop and so would the price. It would give the rest of us the time we need to drill for more oil and develop viable alternative energy at the same time. How about it, TheOtherSide?

24. #380527
    On July 18th, 2008 at 10:04 pm, cicerokid said:

    The mere mention of drilling has the market dropping $21 a barrel. Releasing 1/2 of the strategic reserve would have an immediate and profound impact. Then fill the reserve at lower prices. “Sell high, buy low”.