What Dems can’t say about drilling
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I can’t believe this came from the Post. Well written, articulate, and most of all, absolutely dead on.
Michelle, why isn’t there any post from you on the Bush administration’s stunning reversal on its stand on Iran? Did you conveniently forget?
This oil hypocrisy from Dems is a old issue. I dont understand why you spinning it again and again.
Including Bill O’Reilly, I might add. He’s no liberal, but he’s not exactly a conservative, either.
The scenario the author describes here is exactly, precisely what Obama and the Democrats want. Rather than offering solutions for lowering the price of gas, this is an opportunity for them to raise our taxes, create new ones, all the while doing absolutely nothing to alleviate the situation.
Single digit approval? Si, se puede!
Please stay on topic. You can email her.
Holy Dingbats Batman !!!
A breath of reason from the midst of a true bastion of environmental extremism?
Who spiked the kool aid?
H must be freezing over …
Brad, why don’t you start your own blog?
Release oil from the Strategic Reserve! That’s the Dems plan, which, coincidentally really isn’t a plan at all. Shocker!… just more band-aid fixes to a problem they’ve exacerbated. The pressure is on them – not Bush and that brings a smile to my face.
This has the double effect of doing nothing to lower gas prices and reducing military preparedness.
Something dems havent considered is what happens after the reserve is opened up? It’s not limitless, and really wouldnt put that much of a dent in things. It removes the reserves…but doesnt increase the standard supply.
Drill. Drill now. Drill everywhere. Lets increase our domestic supply and help make ourselves more energy independant.
Yeah. What he said.
The cures for the problems of modern technology can be found by unleaashing human creativity to produce better technology.
Actually, I believe it is their plan, 30. Not a plan to bring oil prices back down to stay but, rather, to artificially and temporarily bring them down, so the price of gas at the pump isn’t such a big issue for the Dems in November.
They are hurting right now with their resistance to do anything to substantively reduce our dependence on foreign oil from hostile countries. So, anything they can do to get gas prices down, so it isn’t at the front of voters’ minds at the polls in November would work to their benefit. What worries me is that they’ll make Bush feel like he should do that and that he concedes, which will take the heat off of them.
If we can get oil out of adolescent skin blemishes let some genius figure out how to make money off it and power the lights.
Drill Now. Drill Everywhere.
Get alternatives online and drain the last drop from the arabs. When they have nothing and we have a future we can kick them to the curb.
Over on huffpo, the consensus solution to the problem of high gas prices is impeaching the president and vice president. Big suprise right?
On the strategic reserve the Dems may be right, by accident. Newt Gingrich wants to do this also. Good market sense says:
Buy Low, Sell High.
The Democrats will hang themselves in 2008 and 2012. So much for embracing the “death culture”.
Yeah. I know. We’ll see how this all plays out.
Supply. Demand.
Congress. Inaction.
Elections. Consequences.
Brad your out of your element also the dem wont drill anwr till bush is out cause they want bo to take the credit for helping america and tax us while doing the drilling.
brad_sk trolled:
persistent: lasting or enduring tenaciously
Brad, Michelle is not spinning. Her point of view if direct. The Democrats are doing the spinning. This is not an academic exercise. The Democrats refusal to change is harming our economy. Their non-sense was harmful during the Clinton administration, it is harmful now. We could absorb a little extra fuel cost, but now it is reaching the point where people are going to be put out of work.
This really is a win-win for Democrats. Gas prices drop temporarily and the Dems take credit. Then when we have to replenish those stocks at a much higher price than when originally purchased, the Dems get to raise taxes to pay for it and blame President Bush for making his oil buddies rich.
Drill now.
The liberals have been caught between their environmental idiocy and reality. Liberalism works only in a fantasy world. Environmental and anti-capitalist groups and their minions have the Democrats by the short hairs on this issue. The Republicans in congress , if there are enough of them smart enough, could get back the leadership of congress. As we have seen since the election of 06, leadership matters.
Also bo i think want america to suffer cause then he’ll expand gov. Like you wouldn’t believe and give pork to his huff po masters. Bo is going to set back black 500 years the way he going.
Since Nancy Pelosi can’t seem to grasp what we are facing here I offer the following analogy for her:
Imagine you have lost your job. However you need to go on paying your bills. The solution she proposes is
1. Spend less money
2. Use what money you have in the bank
3. Buy lottery tickets in hope of winning big
4. But under no circumstances are you to look for a job as this will not pay your bills today
Now the DEMs are saying they want to drill, here and now. (Only where the oil isn’t of course) What a ruse, do they really think that little of the intelligence of the American People?
I will be off for a bit, while I sharpen my Pitchfork!
Truly surprising article especially coming from Denver of all places. Maybe he is the only conservative left in the city.
I read opening the strategic oil reseves might only reduce the price of oil a few pennies.
It just solidly reiterates the obvious truth: if it is good for America (and by extension, Bush), then it is bad for the Democrats. And vice versa.
What don’t you understand? I get “spun” everytime I fill up the tank on my vehicle. Did you take a look at heating oil prices lately? Wait until the Northeast liberals start paying to heat their home (which most do with oil). Just in time for the election, LOL!
Old hypocrisy that we are paying for today. And will pay for until we get to our own resources ASAP.
Educate yourself: read Lord Monckton’s recent paper http://www.aps.org/units/fps/newsletters/200807/monckton.cfm
Real scientists using real data to come to real conclusions. And none of them good for the AGW chicken littles.
If the Dems had let the drilling begin 20 years ago we would not be in this mess. They voted down drilling under Clinton so in fact they are to blame for what we are going through now. People who do not see what the Dems and liberals have caused are like what Rush says…” Stuck on Stupid”
Actually, I think releasing oil from the reserve is illegal under the current laws…
Stuck on stupid is right. Pelosi lied about having a plan in the 2006 election and continues to offer nothing to help the American people through the energy crisis. IMO, Newt has the best plan…do it all and the best options will rise to the top.
Anytime a “republican” is caught agreeing with the Dems, alarm bells should go off, but they seldom do. I am at a complete loss to understanding the continual appeal of Newt Gingrich. I have no doubt he supports the democrat positions regarding the strategic reserve. He also buys into the global warming rubbish as much as McCain, he supports Affirmative Action, he thinks speculators are a big source of the energy cost problem and wants to crack down on them. I am sure there is a lot more that others can add to the list. Whatever his service to the country in the past, like McCain, Gingrich has moved on. And like McCain, he is now part of the problem, not the solution.
I don’t know that it is “illegal”. It is very unwise. But, if I recall correctly, Bush released some from it a while back.
K C Nut, I sure agree with this
Shame on Dems for not caring what happens to the economy while they play their games.
And here is the shocking (well, not shocking) hypocrisy…
Dems want to “plan ahead” to prevent man made global warming from destroying our planet in 100 years, but won’t approve offshore drilling because it won’t have an immediate impact on the economy. Last time I checked, compliance with the Kyoto protocols won’t have an immediate environmental impact (although it does have immediate economic consequences) but the Dems are plenty happy to rally around that!
Apparently is it illegal to use oil reserve unless it is a “national emergency”. But San Fran Nan claimed this WAS an emergency. And if the Queen of the Junior Prom said so, then it must be true. sarc/off
Don’t be silly Dimsdale. The Northeast liberals get there heating oil at discount from there best buddy Hugo.
I think Bush released some for war reasons, But to do it for market reasons I don’t think it’s legal. I heard something after san fran nan brought it up. But I could be wrong..It wouldn’t be the first time…
Bush senior released oil from the strategic reserves for war reasons. GW released oil due to Hurricane Katrina.
That’s right!… THANKS 30
It can be release under certain circumstances.
He released it in 2005 in response to Hurricane Katrina…
That was the draw down to sell option used then.
Barry F, thank you very informative…
Perhaps we would be better off if instead of having the government run the oil business, the oil companies ran the government.
Any of Ken Lay’s friends available?
Couldn’t be worse could it?
Like I keep saying, then Dems plan for energy is this:
1. Stop using fossil fuels
2. ?
3. Clean energy
They are like the underpants gnomes from South Park.
It’s the harmful impact of any kind of oil — global warming. This writer is playing dumb.
And, that is from someone who doesn’t have to play the part.
IF that translates to votes in November it is a good thing. If not it doesn’t matter.
Ken Lay and friends were much like the Democrats–they did not drill for oil, own any oil or deliver much energy. They just moved other people’s money around and skimmed a bunch for themselves. They could well be the model for Pelois and Dingy Harry. Their group will be called EndRod. They need some place to stick that windmill, taxpayer.
The Dems don’t actually believe in global warming crap. This is just a big money-making, vote-getting, power-grabbing scheme.
Don’t ever think they have any concern for conservation or prosperity, or, shudder, the greater good of this country.
LGM –
Global warming is a myth. I can show you 31,072 scientists who agree with me.
Here they are.
That’s what they have been saying for over 30 years. What they won’t say, is how their irresponsible polices also contributed to the destruction by hurricane Katrina, and how their irresponsible polices are affecting our forests.
The only thing Democrats are concerned with is maintaining their power at any cost. They will refuse to drill for more oil, only because the greens will vote them out of office.
This, at the expense of the entire nation. The most irresponsible congress I have ever seen in my lifetime is now.
Tapping the strategic oil reserve now is the dumbest idea in the world, as it would only make the US more vulnerable.
And it wouldn’t do a thing for gas prices.
How about drilling more, and cutting taxes? How about setting up more refineries?
Since Democrats are in the act of committing political suicide, perhaps the rest of us should stand by and watch as they tie their own nooses?
NAAAHHH! It’s too much fun to point out their arrogance and stupidity!
Our very special troll said:
This is why you flunked science in 5th grade. The sun causes global warming, not oil. The earth doesn’t produce a lot of energy, it is more like a battery.
Fossil fuels are fossilized plant matter. They trapped energy from the sun, died and got compressed into carbon rich mineral deposits.
photosynthesis
The article might have some merit if the author provided any substance to his claims. Minus any factual evidence of Dems profiteering from alternative energies, his theory holds as much water as 9/11 truthers’ ones. I can just as easily say that the Repubs drill now rhetoric is influenced by their monetary ties to the oil industry.
#54
It is a fact that the federal government makes an immediate 25% profit from all oil and natural gas produced on land that they lease to oil companies to drill on. That is before the oil is refined and they make an additional 45 cents a gallon in taxes on gasoline.
If the majority in Congress wanted to increase revenue and help solve the problem of high gas prices, it would seem to be a no-brainer to allow more drilling. But, it appears to me that they are only interested in pandering to their “green” constituency, and denying Republicans any chance to solve the problem before November. Can you propose an alternate interpretation?
Now where have I heard that before? Everything liberals do not agree with are now being dubbed hoaxes.
I think if people start discovering the truth those numbers go up considerably.
First it has to learn the truth about ANWR (ANyWheRe” as in if you can’t drill here you can’t drill anywhere). It is a vast WASTELAND. It has no trees (except for what some botanist called trees – we would call it stunted grass). It has NO permanent Carabou residents (they wander in from the Yukon to calf). It will NOT be damaged by oil drilling (The drills will be hard to find). It is 75 miles from the Alaskan pipeline and it will bring oil in just a few years (not 10). It was “protected” by the democrats to stop ALL drilling. If you can drill in the wasteland of the arctic circle, you can not drill anywhere. McCain both into the idiocy (he seems fond of listening to dopes).
Meanwhile offshore drilling HELPS the environment by lowering the pollution caused by seepage. But since the “environmentalists” believe in NO DRILLING and not protecting the environment, it will matter little to them. But to the 90 percent of the rest of us, it matters a lot.
It will bring in oil in ONE year, as there are abandoned rigs that can quickly start drilling.
These Dems are beyond parody. This is what Diane Feinstein has to say today about drilling:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-feinstein18-2008jul18,0,4750904.story
If she were a settler of Jamestown facing a spring shortage of food, no joke, she would have stated that planting more seeds would be a “distraction” and not a solution. Therefore, don’t plant anything because it won’t help the shortage now. Liberals are so clueless.
Drill here. Drill NOW. Pay less.
Gabe,
What does Feinstein say that isn’t true?
I had to look it up. On Olbermann’s show, This guy named Rachel Maddow claimed that Bush was adopting Obama’s position on Iran. Like – Bush as watching Obama on CNN and said ‘that’s a great idea Obama has, I’m gunna dooe it too!!’
When the truth is that they are sending someone to listen.
Did you catch that Maddow guy making this claim first hand?
out of the mouth of difi
and then we see oil drop
Wrong again difi but thats nothing new for you . how are those fat defense contracts working out you handed to your husband . I am sure you can afford 4$ + a gallon , like you pay for your own gas anyway .
What she says that isn’t true is that a huge increase of supply won’t bring down prices. She evidently knows nothing about economics.
Also, if we can greatly increase OUR supply of oil by drilling, the Middle East countries will be forced to compete, thus lowering prices. It is common sense, something liberals lack.
A few weeks ago Reid told Bush he could use exec powers to lift the ban and now pelosi and reid fighting it. These to must be manic depressive.
Our bi-polar liberal dems don’t have any ideas until the republicans come up with them. Then the dems say how the ideas won’t work until the public forgets the ideas, followed by the dems adopting these same ideas and claiming it was a democratic idea all along.
Okay. So let me get this straight…by liberal (diane f) logic: oil companies already have leases for land where they can drill for oil but don’t because the oil companies want to drive up the cost of oil for their own profits, i.e. keep supply artificially low so prices increase. However, the same companies want access to drill in other areas so they can increase supply…oops, they can’t want to increase supply because we already said they want to lower supply to manipulate price…hmmm, well they must want to drill offshore just for the sheer thrill of risking environmental catastrophe. that’s it. People will buy it…you know, evil corporations, oil companies and all that. Just make sure you pronounce evil as eeeeevvvviiiiiilllll and do the voice shake thing to get your point across. Yeah…that always gives me chills, scares me like rush in a speedo.
yeah what he said .
Also the oil spill that closed the west coast to exploration was in 1969. How many platforms went down and spilled in the gulf during Katrina. By libertard logic there has been no advances in safety and control in the last 40 years.
Drill here drill now drill drill drill so we have a hedge until new technologies come on line. Just look at Brazil they drilled and whoops they found 2 new huge oil fields.
This actually came out of Denver – where the liberals will come out of the woodwork next month???!!!!
30 #65 STOP IT..you re making waaaaaaay to much sense, the lib-tards heads will EXPLODE…
This “Dems won’t let us drill” line that conservatives are chanting in unison these days – it makes me wonder…
Where was Bush and the Republican congress on this issue back when they controlled every branch of government for 6 WHOLE YEARS? Why didn’t they do something then when the Dems couldn’t stop them?
“Drill here drill now drill drill drill so we have a hedge until new technologies come on line.”
I have to agree with this and I’ll say it again, nothing scares the oil traders and producers like the government committing to spending a lot of money over several years on research and development of alternative power sources. They can’t drop the prices fast enough so everything else is too expensive. the internal combustion engine is a very ineficient use of oil.
What was I thinking…30 GO FOR IT make the lib-tards heads explode…
twiggman,
They are maddening and I can’t believe people actually vote them in office.
30 – I’m with you on that for sure…
Gas prices weren’t spiraling out of control then. Perhaps, this is a case of the squeaky wheel getting the oil. No pun intended.
The only thing different from then and now is that Democrats have the majority in Congress and Nancy promised to bring down gas prices. Where’s the accountability?
Or more likely, it could be due to the fact that “Crude-oil and gasoline inventories rose last week, according to government data released Wednesday. Both gains defied analysts’ expectations.” (source)
Where did she say that? Off-shore drilling will not provide an increase in supply for another 10 years. Meanwhile demand for energy will continue to grow, so buy the time those off-shore wells produce we will be in the same supply-demand problem. Alternative energy is the only real long-term solution. That’s why Mercedes recently stated it will stop producing gas-fueled engines in 10 years, and I’m sure Toyota is not far behind. If we want a real short-term solution, we should focus on the value of the dollar: stabilize the economy, stop deficit spending, and then raise interest rates.
#74 30 pcs of silver wrote, “Gas prices weren’t spiraling out of control then.”
Not true at all, maybe they weren’t “spiraling out of control” but if you remember back to the 2000 election, gas prices were a very big issue. Very big.
http://people-press.org/report/19/rising-price-of-gas-draws-most-public-interest-in-2000
And the GOP swept into office, winning everything and with a pretty clear mandate to get stuff done, including coming up with a long-term energy policy.
And what did they do? They got stuck on ANWR and couldn’t come up with anything else.
Accountability anyone?
Let me get this straight, you are citing 10 years on seeing anything from domestic oil acquisitions (contrary to what others project as 4-5) but have the audacity to talk about “long-term solutions” that are projected to be even father off in the future.
How about this, drill here – now – to start getting something in place sooner and still work on the alternative energy sources that are farther down the road?
#59 TOS asked Gabe what Feinstein was lying about. She lied when she stated:
“The vast majority of the outer continental shelf is already open to oil exploration”.
I have seen the maps of the areas open to exploration and those off limits. The off limits area of the OCS is 85% of the total. 15% is not the “vast majority” and that makes Ms. Feinstein a liar.
This is so obviously a case of the Democrats stalling and creating smoke screens in order to pander to the environmental special interest at the expense of the average citizen that it shouldn’t even have to be said.
lgm,
I am curious why you are not out trying to find alternatives to hydrocarbons. There are plenty of companies doing research that could use a good mathematician. That way you could be part of the solution. And when you make some amazing breakthroughs (which are no doubt just around the corner) you use them to beat us over the head, instead of snipping at us from academia. Hell, we might even say your right about global warming if you you would just come up with something useful, realistic and economical. Then you could also say you helped solve the global warming crisis, not to mention the conservative blogger crisis.
So, are you saying that since this was an issue on Repubs watch and they didn’t do anything about it. It’s permissible for Dems to do the same?
As you have admitted – gas prices, although an issue weren’t as big an issue then as it is now. And personally, I like to deal with what we are facing today… not the other way around.
#81 30 pcs of silver,
I’m saying that all this demagoguery looks like classic GOP election year posturing and that if they were to somehow sweep back into office like they did in 2000, controlling everything, the GOP would likely do…
NOTHING.
Don’t believe me? Look at what the GOP did during 2000-2006.
Anything to try to divert the public’s attention from the failed Dem leadership in Congress will do, 30 – anything.
They’ll pull out all the stops to redirect, distract, etc. in the coming months, as the Congressional approval ratings continue to plummet.
Heaven forbid that they actually try to make a positive substantive change in “most honest, most open, and most ethical Congress in history” that San Fran Nan promised.
Capt. Howdy,
Do you deny that gas prices are out of control? If no, I could careless about the political posturing – I’m for whoever has a solution to the problem.
You should take your ire and direct it to the Dems for placing themselves in the unfortunate position of not having taken this issue and running with it when they had the chance. Pelosi knew it was an issue – so much so that in 2006 she stated that she would lower gas prices. This statement may have been what caused Dems to sweep in 2006. However, as we have learned it was all talk. She hasn’t lowered gas prices, instead they are ridiculously high and you want to debate what Repubs didn’t do years ago. I think it was a stupid move not to have addressed it. They lost the high ground. The Dems used it against them and now it’s come back to bit them in the arse.
Say what you want – but this falls on the Dems, circa 2008.
Barry F,
Seriously.
They are coming out of the woodworks.
Why, yes. It certainly pales in comparison to the abudance of things accomplished by Pelosi and Reid.
Those danged Republicans weren’t able to get tofu on the menu in the congressional cafeteria – but Nan was – or get earmarks in that monstrosity Omnibus bill for organic meals in cafeterias in CA – but Nan was.
So, there, 30. Don’t say the Dems can’t get something done! Neener, neener, neener.
I think I should clarify.
The Dems used the gas prices at that time against the Repubs and now the same issue has not only cropped back up – it’s completely out of control under the Dems watch… They promised to bring the prices down. Promises. Promises.
LOL i knew she was a liar even back when she was nothing more then an elitist SF stupidvisor . Its good to see she dosnt change .
If what say is true then we’d better start building nuclear power plants in a hurry…or we’ll have to keep burning oil to provide all that electricity for cars to run on.
Barry,
You play liberal well.
4-5 years…get real! You’d be lucky to get your hands on an drilling rig in 4-5 years.
Maybe going by square mileage, but she is accurate if you go on available oil.
I had an exchange with lgm today on a thread and…I think it may have taken a toll on me.
lol you cant have domestic oil but you can have all the tofu you can eat , well until BHO says you have had enough . I think i would rather eat oil then tofu at least oil has flavor
Or, should that be troll on me?
yes, I like “troll on me” much better!
So lie down and die, the Sky is Falling and Nothing Can Be Done!
We heard all this crap in 1973; one of the networks ran a special “Will we freeze to death in the dark?” That was 35 years ago. It did not happen.
Bio fuels are a joke, a sad joke.
Wind & Solar can help-a little.
Conservation is always a good idea-it saves money
We have lots of oil
We have more coal-with better technology
Nuclear is doable
And Nancy Pelosi and Dingy Harry and the Leftist whores will stop every one of them to bring down this administration and make the American people more dependant. Silly Sissies like to blame the Republicans for all this but notice:
The spike came AFTER Pelosi and Dingy Harry announced they would block new drilling. The Democrats threw the market into a panic and now blame speculators–that is the Futures Market fool.
Drill Here
Drill now
Pay Less
This site is rather interesting too.
THE PICKENS PLAN
A corporate Raider gone Green?
There is a link under #43 with a chart that shows it all 30… I can’t seem to post it…
Opinions are really nice and like certain body parts, everyone has one. But I also have a great love for facts and it is disturbing when people make up their own facts.
Capt Howdy cited a 2000 link about gas prices and then said in #76:
“And the GOP swept into office, winning everything and with a pretty clear mandate to get stuff done, including coming up with a long-term energy policy”.
Please pay attention Capt.
Bush held the Electoral College with Florida by less than 300 votes and yes, he did not win the national vote total. The Senate was 50 dem and 50 Rep with the VP holding the swing vote. The House was 210 dem and 220 Rep. with 5 seats not filled on 1-21-01 at the start of the 107th Congress.
Please reconsider your “sweep and mandate” statement in light of the facts. You do remember 2001 don’t you? You consider that a mandate? Pelosi and Reid have got a hell of a bigger mandate then existed in 2001.
#84 30 pcs of silver,
“…you want to debate what Repubs didn’t do years ago. I think it was a stupid move not to have addressed it. They lost the high ground. The Dems used it against them and now it’s come back to bit them in the arse.”
It’s good to see you admit that Republican Party missed a huge opportunity to come up with a long term energy policy that could’ve included more drilling back in years 2000-2006, when they had so much more power.
Now… what makes you think they would do any better if they were to win this year?