TheOtherSide said:

Off-shore drilling will not provide an increase in supply for another 10 years. Meanwhile demand for energy will continue to grow, so buy the time those off-shore wells produce we will be in the same supply-demand problem. Alternative energy is the only real long-term solution.

I’ve got the solution to this dilemma. I propose that TheOtherSide and all his liberal friends stop buying oil products and switch to “the only real long-term solution”: alternative energy. If they would do this now and put their money where their mouths are, the demand for oil would immediately drop and so would the price. It would give the rest of us the time we need to drill for more oil and develop viable alternative energy at the same time. How about it, TheOtherSide?

Don’t worry, though, congressional Democrats have a bold plan. Hold on for 10 or 15 years and they’ll have a bounty of energy options. They promise. But no oil shale. No clean coal. No nuclear power. And definitely no more oil.
They will not enable your revolting, inefficient lifestyle.

So when Pelosi said the Democrats had a commonsense plan to bring down gas prices in 2006, she was making it all up. Their real plan has nothing to do with bringing down the price of gas nor does it have anything to do with commonsense. If the Democrats think the country is ready to give up oil, let them lead the way. Show us how it can be done because I don’t think you can do it. Prove me wrong. (Besides, if all dems stop buying oil it will lower the price for the rest of us.)

On July 18th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, DesertLover said:

supersean

sorry … published facts from oil drilling companies state the following about our expanded drilling options …

ANWR … 2-3 years
OCS … 3-5 years
Shale Oil … 6-9 years

This 10 years to get any new oil crap was thrown out right away by the Dems in Congress as a way to try to back their stupid stance on not drilling

I’ve read and heard the same numbers. The next step is to build 5 or 10 new refineries.

All the alternative energy in the world is not going to run our cars for at least another 15-20 years while they develop viable and affordable options …

Gotta do all of it at once …

Sort of like the old Video Tape war … Betamax against VHS … VHS won out …
and just had the Blu-Ray against HiDef battle which was won by Blu-Ray …

It will be the same for all the things that will be tried for powering cars …

In my post I said Anwr is a more rapid resolution to the issue. I did not mean to say that this option would take 10 years… if the oil industry invests the resources the offshore development can also be done much quicker but not in the 3-5 year range you mention. The capital equipment and many critical subsystems required to build out the infrastructure and pipelines would require much more time

The information I was quoting was from a report on FoxBusiness by Eric Bolling … the comments and quotes were not from the oil companies but rather from the drilling companies themselves which is who the oil companies contract with to drill wells for them … the companies talked to and quoted were Transocean and Diamond Offshore Drilling … I will have to see if it is on their website …

Well. While you’re over here patting yourself on the back, we still don’t have issue put to rest just yet. Pelosi and crew need to put up or shut up and get out of the way.

On July 18th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, DesertLover said:

This 10 years to get any new oil crap was thrown out right away by the Dems in Congress as a way to try to back their stupid stance on not drilling

Actually it was thrown out by the EIA

The assumption that ANWR oil production would begin 10 years after legislation approves the Federal oil and natural gas leasing in the 1002 Area is based on the following 8-to-12 year timeline:

- 2 to 3 years to obtain leases, including the development of a U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM) leasing program, which includes approval of an Environmental Impact Statement, the collection and analysis of seismic data, and the auction and award of leases.

- 2 to 3 years to drill a single exploratory well. Exploratory wells are slower to drill because geophysical data are collected during drilling, e.g., rock cores and well logs. Typically, Alaska North Slope exploration wells take two full winter seasons to reach the desired depth.

- 1 to 2 years to develop a production development plan and obtain BLM approval for that plan, if a commercial oil reservoir is discovered. Considerably more time could be required if the discovered oil reservoir is very deep, is filled with heavy oil, or is highly faulted. The petroleum company might have to collect more seismic data or drill delineation wells to confirm that the deposit is commercial.

- 3 to 4 years to construct the feeder pipelines; to fabricate oil separation and treatment plants, and transport them up from the lower-48 States to the North Slope by ocean barge; construct drilling pads; drill to depth; and complete the wells.

The 10-year timeline for developing ANWR petroleum resources assumes that there is no protracted legal battle in approving the BLM’s draft Environmental Impact Statement, the BLM’s approval to collect seismic data, or the BLM’s approval of a specific lease-development proposal.

Can you please provide links to these published facts. Thanks.

sorry … published facts from oil drilling companies state the following about our expanded drilling options …

ANWR … 2-3 years
OCS … 3-5 years
Shale Oil … 6-9 years

This 10 years to get any new oil crap was thrown out right away by the Dems in Congress as a way to try to back their stupid stance on not drilling …

ArizonaNeanderthal said:

No. Someone with a financial interest in windpower and LNG cars. You know…kinda like Gore and global warming. But his idea might hold more water.

Sambo, did you just say algore can’t hold his water? That could explain a few things. Depends?

He can’t hold his hot air either.

Oh yeah, just plug into the wall socket & voila it is magic. Electricity comes out.