Maverick discovers that MSM libs are not his “friends”
You know, there’s only one word that describes the proper reaction to the McCain camp feeling aggrieved about the NYTimes’ rejection of The Maverick’s op-ed piece:
Now, now, now–after years of chumming it up with the lib journalists and basking in the “maverick” designation–does Sen. McCain finally realize that these people are not his “friends?”
And as if you needed to be reminded of the obvious again: Rasmussen discovers that “Belief [Is] Growing That Reporters are Trying to Help Obama Win.”
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Biil Grant
Sir, I propose that we stop feeding the troll.
An interesting discussion as always, with the usual outcome.
Flenser is still an idiot.
Goodnight, all.
I think you’re highlighting your own total ignorance of politics. McCain was not supported by Democrats and the MSM because he’s a anti-socialist. He did not oppose the Bush tax cuts as “tax cuts for the wealthy” because he’s an anti-socialist. He does not support the government take-over of industy that is global warming because he’s anti-socialist. He does not support Kennedy’s amnesty bill because he’s anti-socialist.
You people don’t have a clue what the words “conservative” or “socialist” mean. No wonder you can con yourselves into thinking that McCain is conservative.
wise_man,
Great minds think alike.
I second the motion that flenser be declared “still an idiot”.
Lifeofthemind, Biil Grant, Concerned Citizen, Irish Rose,
perhaps if we all ask Michelle, she could do something about this disruption? Or should we simply make a pact not to reply, or reply with a simple response that illustrates our displeasure?
I’m in for whatever is the decision.
On July 21st, 2008 at 10:37 pm, flenser said:
Yep, Canadian.
Witless Man
How is it a lie, Mr Liar?
Given that you are not a conservative, and lack that functioning brain yourself, I can’t imagine why you feel yourself qualified to comment on these matters. Or any matters.
Here, you snot:
Main Entry:
so·cial·ism Listen to the pronunciation of socialism
Pronunciation:
\ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Function:
noun
Date:
1837
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
“Socialism refers to any of various economic and political concepts of state or collective (i.e. public) ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods and services”
So yes, that would be Obama…
Didn’t see that on his platform. So do you speak for Nader voters or McCain?
Nope, not true and that’s not the definition of a socialist, you pompous ass.
“You people” was an obvious reference to the liberal contingent that has camped out on this blog to cheerlead for McMoron.
I bet even you might have figured that out if you tried.
The only one that thinks McCain is not a “small c” ‘conservative’ and thinks that he is a socialist is you.
This is a troll comment. Ignored.
On July 21st, 2008 at 10:39 pm, wise_man said:
Just let the fool be. I have a feeling that if people are going to start getting tossed for speaking their minds Ill be gone before he will.
I vote that flenser is an idiot as well.
However, he is also worse than that, I suspect he is a liberal troll, who is not even an American.
I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if there were Obamunists posing as disaffected conservatives on this site, such as Flenser.
Michelle Malkin has NEVER stated she will not vote for McCain. She, Ann Coulter, and Rush Limbaugh have attempted to move him to the right, which has worked very well, and McCain deserves our support. Compare him to Barack Hussein Obama.
Can you imagine how the communists and socialists will be partying if Obama wins? That is enough incentive to vote for the candidate they hate: John McCain.
Actually, the poll numbers are beginning to greatly worry liberals right now. Susan Estrich finds them very worrying. You have the MSM basically pretending that Obama is already president and giving him enormously positive coverage. So why is he only a few percentage points ahead of McCain? Put it this way: Dukakis was doing better than Obama is as this time.
I live in liberal Northern Virginia, and there is a strange lack of Obama bumper stickers. There are probably the same number as there were about a year ago.
Therefore, these liberals are going to attempt to trick gullible conservatives into voting for a losing third party candidate, and I suspect Flenser is one of these instigators.
There is no logical reason to vote third party and help Obama. We know Obama is a Marxist.
As for VP picks, who do the MSM fear the most? Pick Bobby Jindal or Sarah Palin!
“Speaking their minds” is not what this person is honesty doing. In my opinion.
Are you really this retarded?
It is the definition of a socialist, you jackass. Try to learn something about politics instead of showing off your wonderful ability to read a dictionary.
FYI, the dictionary will tell you that “conservative” means “opposition to change”, and that “liberal” means “openminded”.
I suppose you believe that also.
Sigh, you would think that with all time that McCain has spent as the captive of communists he would have heard the term “useful idiot” used at least once… now if he can only realize that all those nice friendly smiling illegals aren’t his friends either, or am I asking too much?
God forbid, Hillary is looking better everyday. What a buffoon We have picked as our already failed Commander-in-Chief, could this clueless bonehead try any harder to lose this election? Ann Coulter is right “Get drunk & vote for McCain”
On July 21st, 2008 at 10:42 pm, flenser said:
There, fixed it for you and the rest of your people.
Is lgm still here?
Geez, you are citing Ed Morrissy as vouching for McCains conservative creds?
You people are a joke.
seems like the grand old party has gone through some kind of epiphany lately. considering the current plight of the GOP, nothing I hear out of republicans mouths suprizes me anymore.
your approach has ended us up where we are today and you have the nerve to ask for more…this is liberal logic at its best.
you stuck your head up your butt while a republican congress acted like fiscally and morally reprehensive and irresponsible democrates…your response? let’s reward the party, great message.
support conservative ideals thru congressmen whose principals don’t waiver (unlike yours) and the country can weather anything including hussein/mclame on the same fkng ticket.
i keep hearing the same old totally lame azz argument about how we (conservatives) are looking for some non-existant idealogically pure savior-like Reagan to save us…
bulsht, i’m lookin for something better
Of course McCain is on the wrong side of the immigration debate. I get the feeling this is something he honestly believes. If this is the case, it’s not going to be easy to make him change his mind.
Unlike Obama, who has consistently changed his position (on paper) since he won over Hillary. Now he is moving to the center, for appearance only as to get votes from the center. Obviously, he will go back to the left when and if he is elected.
I submit that we ignore flenser.
He is not an American; he is a troll, pretending to be an American in order to sway the independent and undecided vote so that Obama will win.
wise_man,
Personally I believe in referring to the powers that be only for specific and clear violations such as obscenity or threats of stalking. Here I do not see that. We can presume that MM or Dubs will review this and go hmmmm. The correct thing to do once reasoned discourse has degenerated to iterative disagreement is to simply stop. Any person who is a Republican or a Democrat or for that matter an honest Communist should be able to come in here and contribute. An echo chamber is not what I seek and for that matter my opinions are not the mainstream in here. When we believe that someone is under a false flag, such as a Paulbot or Kos Kid impersonating a conservative then we have to decide whether to Ignore or complain.
They published it first, he posted it, and gave the assessment that there is a huge chasm between McCain and Obama.
And this is the truth.
Yes, the usual left-wing tactics.
You can take the lefty out of the the Democratic party and dump him into the GOP, but he remains a lefty in his thought processes.
A “disruption” in lefty-speak is a conservative saying things that the lefty thinks should not be said.
What is it?
Wise Man, I don’t mind the liberals on this site, such as Flenser or lgm, as annoying as they can be. They serve unknowingly to bring out very intelligent counters to their comments, such as yours and many others, which make their arguments look ridiculous.
I this were my site, and it is not, I would not want to see the level of discourse lowered to the level of a troll. I see no slippery slope from this to echo chamber. I see a clear distinction.
Maybe the powers that be need to understand that many users who enjoy their posting privileges here - do not also enjoy reading the disruptions from individuals such as these people who seek to do nothing but troll.
Did you see the film the Dark Night? Some people just want to watch the world burn. We shouldn’t tolerate clowns.
On July 21st, 2008 at 10:46 pm, flenser said:
So in your little world things can be defined as whatever you capriciously want to call them at any given moment. No wonder you consider yourself a consirvative, you are simply defining “leftist obamatard” as “consirvative”.
I don’t think people are going to be buying it anymore.
No, you idiot, that is not who I was refering to. I was refering to all you refugees from the Democratic Party who have shown up here to insist that McCain is too a man we can vote for. About a third of the commenters here fall into that category.
wise_man This I agree with. Good night my friend.
On July 21st, 2008 at 10:50 pm, atheling said:
I second.
On July 21st, 2008 at 10:57 pm, flenser said:
You and the democrats are voting for Obama though. I am a Republican.
So are you Canadian flenser? They like to call socialism other things as well.
Intelligent discourse very rarely has the amount of name calling I see coming from flenser. As you read through this, you can see it looks like he’s getting frustrated and calling names as a way to lash out. Even Rusty and Mookie would make reasoned arguments for their point of view and that made the entire exchange enjoyable and educational. Flenser seems to just make stuff up as he goes along without any real understanding of what he’s saying or even what the conversation is about. The worst troll I can think of, lgm, is at least provocative with his seagull droppings. flenser is more like Farva from Super Troopers.
It’s best to ignore him. If he gets banned, he’ll just come up with a new name the next time comments are opened up and start this stuff all over again because he likes the attention. At least now, we know what to expect when we see his name.
No. I an not defining thing as I want to call them. I am not defining things at all. I’m just passing on information.
The political meanings of words are not those found in the dictionary. Look up “liberal” and see what I mean. Socialism is as I have described it. Not sure why it bothers you. Hitting too close to home?
I don’t consider myself a “consirvative”, whatever that hell that is supposed to be. You’ve been tossing that word around all thread long. Talk about making stuff up!
I’m not doing anything of the sort. I’m pointing out that McCain is a socialist, just like Obama. Which is why their policy positions are so similar.
“I suspect since they voted for whom they thought was the best candidate that they are pretty happy with their vote. I have no idea why they would vote for a candidate they didn’t support. Makes no sense.”
It’s a fair bet that’s why they voted for the candidate they supported. As I said, it wouldn’t make any sense at all for them to vote for someone they did not support.
Again, with Gore having won more votes than President Bush in that election, if I were going to feel bad for anyone it might be the Gore voters. Then again, nah. Policitcs is a crapshoot, the parties roll the dice and take their chances with the voting public. It remains to be seen who rolled out a winner this year. We won’t know until November (at least).
You keep on lying, jackass.
I am a Republican.
And I’m a conservative. There is a difference, not that you’d know about it.
I agree. With lgm, you know he is a liberal. With Flenser, you have a liberal posing as a conservative.
*Clenching fists and stomping feet*: I am, I am, I AM!
…. just keep flapping your wings, little man.
I see that all the lefties are agreeing to ignore me.
Lefties being lefties, I suspect that this is another thing that they are lying about.
Never wrestle with a pig. You’ll both get dirty, but the pig likes it.
Don’t bother. We won’t give you the satisfaction.
I’ve been called worse :).
Really?????? Who would have guessed?
Sorry, “Gabe”, but I was quoting your lefty pard there. Note the indentation of the separate comments. I bet you’ll figure this stuff out one of thiese days.
I can believe that.
Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!
Kind of like Tom Brokaw’s imaginary friend? The one that is a conservative Republican but is going to vote for Marxist Obama?
If you were a true conservative, you would not be hoping that Obama wins, and you would not be throwing away your vote.
Just keep flapping your lips, little woman.
In other news, did you all notice that James Dobson is now supporting McCains’ candidacy?
Why, he must be a liberal socialist!
Even by lefty standards, you seem rather dense. I’m not “hoping that Obama wins”. But you don’t seem like the sort to let reality intrude on your happy fantasy life, so don’t let that stop you.
I’m not throwing away my vote. It’s not possible to throw away a vote. Each one cast has equal weight.
If you want to say “Everyone else is voting for the Dem In Reps clothing so I’m doing so too” then be my guest. Just don’t try to make it sound wise and noble.
I’m sure Irish Rose is a big fan of Dobsons ……
This “repartee” has been cracking me up for several minutes…all that was missing was…”Oh yeah, well, you guys are all just a bunch of big, fat, poopy-heads, you, you ‘hosers’!!!”
Riotous!
A raging leftist.
Whoda thunkit?
Grieves for his friends who will feed the troll, even though they know that to do so is A Bad Thing.
Turns the light …. off.
Just because they give flenser access to the Internet at the institute doesn’t mean they’ll let him out to vote.
Goodnight, all :).
On July 21st, 2008 at 11:05 pm, flenser said:
So “It is the definition of a socialist” doesn’t necessarily mean you are defining “socialist”. Nice flip flop and entirely in keeping with your Obamatard mentality.
No. Socialism literally means the government owns the means of production and distribution. It is important not muddy the waters when you are defining something because the socialism in, say Canada is different in it’s implimentation from the socialism of Venezuela. Whomever “believes in rule by a technocratic elite and despises “the people”… In other words, he’s a socialist.” is not the definition of what a socialist is, indeed that could apply to many other forms of governance/personal attributes.
So in other words, you are WRONG, you pompous ass.
There is nothing that I enjoy more then demonstrating someone like you is not only wrong but smug about it. (Another leftist attribute.) So no, I am not bothered at all.
Lol, No matter how you spell it, you aren’t.
And as it has been pointed out, you are defining socialist as whatever you want it to be. “Seeing whatever you want to see”… another leftist attribute. The evidence just keeps piling up.
Forgive me.
Good night.
flenser said:
So you will be voting for McCain then, good boy.
So your wrong headed support of Obama by proxy was all a big mistake and you have snapped out of it. Well done.
I am an American adn I do not want to see my country harmed by an appeasing, islamist surrendering, genuine socialist, that is why I am voting for McCain and resolving myself to do what I should have been doing with Bush; becoming more politically active in promoting consirvative principals and causes in the government.
The only way I/WE stand a chance of having any effect is with a McCain presidency.
On July 21st, 2008 at 11:27 pm, Concerned Citizen said:
Same here…
Bill Grant
No, Bill. Telling you what the definition of somthing is NOT the same as me personally defining it. It’s passing on information. I’m not the one doing the defining.
You Obamatard.
No, that is not what socialism means. Look up the Comte de Saint-Simon, one of the founders of socialism.
You are wrong, as usual.
I guess you must be permanently frustrated then, since you have not been able to demonstate any such thing. Not knowing squat about politics is an impediment, I’m sure.
You’re then one who keeps saying “consirvative” for some reason know only to you. It’s only off because you fancy yourself as a spelling Nazi the rest of the time.
And I am indeed a conservative, as definded by the founders of the movement - men like Kirk, Nisbet, and Buckely. Ever heard of them?
As I have pointed out to you, I’m not.
What has McCain ever said or done to lead you to think such a thought?
What?
Time to through the MSM under the bus.
Lub, lub, lub…
LOL, I had to come back here and read what I missed.
Goodnight, Gracie.
I recommend everyone do what I’m doing.
I live in a state where there is no chance Obama can win.
Therefore, I can write in somebody (instead of voting for McCain), and it won’t do a thing to help Obama get elected, since he won’t win my state.
I don’t vote for McCain, my non-vote does not help Obama, and my conscience remains clear regardless of who wins the national election.
Lame stream media…simply pathetic.
You’re a commie, FDC! Last tag!!
I feel sorry for President-Elect McCain as it’s a hard lesson to absorb, learning who one’s friends are, but hopefully this is one schooling experience he’ll value and that will affect the most good for his presidency.
Yup. My state hasn’t fallen into the R column since Nixon’s nation-wide shellacking of McGovern in 72 when Geo Mc only won MA and DC.
The liberal main stream media one. They successfully blocked the conservative republicans. They got McCain as the republican candidate and made Obama as the younger brighter alternative to the staunchy McCain.
Welcome to the real world, John! On his arrival in Manchester, NH last night, there was one reporter and one photographer waiting on him.
Screw McAmnesty and his cute little video.
HOW ABOUT MCAMNESTY WAKE UP LONG ENOUGH ON HIS VACATION TO WATCH THIS VIDEO!
Caution: This video will make blood squirt out of your eyes.
McAmnesty is such a La Raza and amnesty tool!!!
i got involved in a thread over at Townhall that gravitated towards addressing the pros and cons of whether to vote for McCain or not…it was a conservative vs Republican argument much like here.
the difference being it was dominated by conservatives who are adamantly opposed to McCain.
the similarity was these conservatives belittled the alternative view point (those willing to vote the GOP ticket) just as the Republicans did here against the individual that didn’t tow their line.
in both instances (Townhall and MM) the pettiness and name calling on both sides, the intolerance of opposing thought reminded me of liberals typical emotional tirade against that which with they disagree.
your minds being made up (no need to preach to the choir and all that) McCain already has you in his pocket.
the fact that some of you may be overlooking though is that it is impossible for him to win without the conservative vote…you know like that guy back there you all were labeling as a “liberal”, a “troll”, etc.
i would suggest in the interest of promoting your agenda…try a different approach next time cause the one you used was “liberal like”
Ugly Kid Joe says:
Let me correct your statement:
The truth is there are no true conservatives out there who are not willing to vote for McCain at this stage, considering the Marxist Obama is the alternative.
I was at CPAC in February. Even at that time, there were not very many people not willing to support McCain. At this stage, every conservative supports McCain. . .or is at least willing to stop Obama by voting for McCain.
Obama’s campaign is paying a lot of people to pretend to be conservatives and go on conservative blogs.
On July 22nd, 2008 at 8:56 pm, Gabe said:
I believe that’s true, there was a link on the Little Green Footballs link viewer thing-a-ma-bob that outlined talking points from the democratic underground website that were designed to split the republicans.
Just scan up for some of their talking points.
And their operation chaos on us is succeeding.
my automatic thought here was “and your proof for this is…?”
beyond that though, feeble attempts to argue in absolutes along with not presenting any facts is a losing proposition bro. since i am a conservative who (at this point) does not support McCain your statement can’t be true. try again friend.
persistence is good…well presented and convincing argument, i’m close to changing my mind. but Gabe, again, next time try to avoid that all or nothing type thinking
i would say that if it is in fact “succeeding” (which i certainly don’t believe) we’d have no one to blame but ourselves.
“Lie down with the snakes, expect to be bit….”
- my grandmother
Gabe said…
The truth is there are no true conservatives out there who are not willing to vote for McCain at this stage…
LOL, but UGJoe, everyone prefers the green jelly beans. I said it, therefore it’s true.
(Hey, that was fun!)