Next stop, Germany: Ich bin ein beginner!
Germany awaits The One. After getting heckled at the Western Wall, a fact you will be hard pressed to find reported in the American media, Barack Obama has arrived in Germany.
Wonderful Tennyson Hayes has once again produced a special Obama poster to commemorate the occasion:
The Citizen of the World is ready for his photo-op:
“Barack Obama arrived in Germany Thursday morning to much fanfare, as local television stations aired live coverage and fans gathered in the streets for a glimpse at the U.S. Democratic presidential candidate who will be delivering a much anticipated speech here later today.
Obama said the speech, which is to address transatlantic relations, isn’t comparable to famous ones in Berlin by Presidents Kennedy and Reagan because “they were presidents. I am a citizen. But obviously Berlin is representative of the extraordinary success of the post-World War II effort to bring the continent together and to bring the West together and then later to bring the East and the West together. So I think it’s a natural place.”
Yeah, never mind all that Nazi symbolism and stuff…
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Ummm…he and his 300 advisers are aware that the Germans will not be allowed to vote for him in November, aren’t they?
I really just cannot get my head around why he is campaigning in Europe as if they have any say in what happens in our election.
After all….just how many European leaders or wannabe leaders come here to campaign and give speeces hoping to get elected in their respective countries?
The Empty Suit is over there giving poicy speeches, carrying out discussions and what-not as if he already is POTUS. the absolute ARROGANCE of this entire trip is mind-boggling. Yet the Left and their mouth-pieces in the MSM are going on and on about what a great and triumphant thing the whole trip is.
All it really is, is nothing more than the biggest publicity stunt in modern political history. To think that he is allegedly drawing these crowds of “supporters” absolutely makes no sense. Seriously, who really cares how many people support him in germany or anywhere else?
I cannot help but think that there has to be some major ethics issues involved in all this, about how his campaign money is being spent to fund his trips to see the glamour places of the wrold. In the end…is that not what this is? A chance for Michelle to get a little shopping done and for them to do some sight-seeing on the campaign funds?
Considering all the noise that was made about President Bush wasting all that jet fuel, about the size of his “carbon footprint” when he went around to basically say good-bye to these same leaders, you would think someone, somewhere would be just as critical. However, once again, their hypocrisy takes center stage and their silence on these same issues when it comes to The Cosen One is deafening.
oops. “landmark’s” should be “landmarks”
ROFLMAO
Ooooooh! That was even better than what I had suggested!
I think BM out did himself! Oooooh! My sides hurt and my eyes are leaking!
#92 that was great! Unfortunately they can vote and breed!
I’m still hoping Tennyson gets a chance to do the “This is your brain. And, this is your brain on Obama.” image soon.
Senator Obama is a citizen of the world. He will restore our honor in the eyes of the world. We will no longer be the object of scorn we have become over the past blah, blah, blah.
Sorry, I just can’t do it. Channeling the troll is too much work. Barry is an overly ambitious junior senator from the Chicago political machine (think Mayor Daley), and the emptiest of suits.
Christian Soldier,
I kinda made that phrase up on the spot. I thought it was important what the soldiers thought of Obama’s messiah complex.
Good and bad news for Obmam, Good news is he has the death row vote, bad news (well bad news for saint obama pbuh) is he just lost one of those votes.
On July 24th, 2008 at 12:37 pm, jroberts said:
That’s not true. A nation’s character changes very slowly. For example, if you read Toqueville’s Democracy in America, you’ll see very much the same character of Americans today.
Likewise, Germans today show many of the same Nazi-like tendencies that they had back previous to and leading up to WWII. Their obsession with Barack Hussein Obama is proof of that. They support him because he is anti-Israel and pro-Muslim. They would have us elect someone who would destroy Jews because of his pro-Muslim ties.
Ever heard of projection? You often unknowingly project onto others what you feel about yourself.
One reason they are so against America’s use of military power for good is because they don’t understand that we mean good when we liberate Iraq, for example, or invade Afghanistan to defeat the Taliban. They think, because we use military force, we are doing it to show our power and to be arrogant. Why do they think this, so wrongly?
Because that is what THEY would do if they had a powerful military. It is projection of their values onto us, wrongly. They still have Nazi-like tendencies in their culture, except these Nazi-like tendencies now favor socialism, the environment, anti-American candidates. Their enthusiasm for Obama proves it. Obama is the candidate for today’s Nazis and those weak-minded enough to fall for Nazi-like hysteria.
Oh that would be awesome. I would buy 7 in different color one for each day. Piss of the nutroots and wake the moderates.
I couldn’t agree more. He really pulled out all of the stops with that one!
Isn’t Obama running for president of the UNITED STATES?
Germany can have him.
He’s running as a Democrat. They can still vote.
BM may have to take the “This is your braing. And, this is your brain on Obama.” and run with it. We really need that one in a t-shirt and window decals.
I wish I had an e-mail address for him. We don’t seem to be on here at the same time too much lately.
If I catch up to him before you do, I’ll be sure to pass the message along.
Is it really “nonsense?” Losing two world wars to the “Amis” stings. Losing to the Amis, and then having them turn out to be benevolent occupiers instead of the savages the Germans turned out to be everywhere they conquered, stings even more. Jealousy and resentment at being shown up for being savages are powerful emotions that can and do cross generations.
Thank you for proving my point: the fact that the Germans have caused no more trouble in Europe is precisely because of the measures we took from 1945-48 to constrain them before giving them back their autonomy. On a related note, it’s not for no reason that the Europeans themselves say that NATO was formed “To keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.”
Germany was a great nation, until they spent themselves triggering two world wars that finally forced other nations to carve Germany up for 40 years to prevent a “threepeat.”
It’s too bad you weren’t around to whisper that into Kaiser Wilhelm’s ear in 1914, and into Hitler’s ear in 1939. Germany might still be a great nation today if they’d have only listened to the advice.
Bottom line is, from the day when they massacred Varus and his three legions in the Teutoberg Forest in A.D. 9 until they were finally crushed in 1945, the Germans have caused their neighbors little good and much grief and bloodshed through their militarism. Or as the British put it, “You haven’t known war until you’ve fought the Germans.”
That since 1945 Europe has known its longest period of relative peace since the Pax Romana nearly two millenia ago is no thanks to the Germans, and has everything to do with America. The Germans know this, and they resent it — and us. When they see Hopenchange promising to make America a lesser power, that can’t help but to strike a chord.
And you’ll see it in Berlin today.
I wonder why Obama didn’t do a photo op at the al Aqsa mosque. . . oh yeah, it’s off limits to apostates.
Thanks, 30. Point him to here and here for some ideas on it.
Obviously, it has to be a Teflon® skillet for the Teflon® candidate to whom nothing seems to stick with the MSM media’s help.
I wish we know someone that could put that into a video like the old PSAs in the 80′s about drugs.
Gabe is right about Germans.
I read European blogs and the comments by the German readers blow me away. They still long for a strong man leader who will solve all of their problems. With the exception of the British, most of the other Euros feel the same way. Many are disillusioned with democracy, and blame the system for their woes – note that they don’t blame socialism – must not take away all those freebies – but they don’t like the Muslim takeover and want someone to solve that problem efficiently.
Also, I have noted rising anti Semitism in Europe. Synagogues are routinely vandalized, rabbis and Orthodox Jews are assaulted, and European leaders turn a blind eye despite many Jewish leaders pleading with them to condemn those actions.
Europeans have had the monarchist system in their blood for so long that I think it is inbred. Couple that with their envy of American power, their rejection of their Christian heritage, socialist dependency on government, and you will have a recipe for dictatorship again.
Their worship of Obama is just a symptom of the disease.
I need to buy photoshop.
BO and Mo don’t want to serve this country, they want to be ADORED. Has he noticed that his poll numbers aren’t soaring up? McCain is just plodding along like a turtle while BO is running every-which-way and the poll number are about the same.
You could be like me. I’ve got it but never really taken the time to learn how to do all of the cool things that Tennyson, Blind_Mule and others can do with it.
I just want to say that Michelle’s headline of Ich bin ein beginner is hilarious.
Well done Double-M!
I also need to buy photoshop, and then have somebody show me how to use it.
Respectfully,
eric aka the Tygrrrr Express
I actualy have an idea for photo shop, Obmam in uniform screaming “follow me” to the soldiers who are all facing the other way. One of the soldiers is saying, “dude, the enemy is that way”..
Why do I keep on typing obmam instead of obama? ugh
I forgot to mention, that among the comments I read by Euros on these blogs, ALL of them, whether they are on the Left or Right, blame immigration on:
Jews!
Seriously. It’s jaw dropping. Somehow, they ALL claim that the mass immigration of Muslims in Europe is a Jewish conspiracy to destroy white civilization. I am not kidding. And NO ONE, except for the American commenters, refutes them on that.
Can you imagine the mind set of a person who thinks that Jews are behind the mass immigration of Muslims in Europe? How can it benefit them – the Jews? It’s staggering, the level of idiocy and hatred these people bear against Jews.
I stopped commenting on these blogs because I was so disgusted with their “disease”.
McAmnesty’s V.P. Pick is now in.
EWTHeckman said (#75):
Our troops were there to counter the Soviet Union.
Yeah… we know, thats kind of the point.
I do believe LGM is starting to get the idea, slowly, but lets see where he goes from here. As he said, scholars are not always that quick when they are out of thier fields.
#123blacktigerr-
Thank you for the head’s up re: the Laugh Factory -Tues night-
We enjoyed your take on the events of the day. Please give our thanks to the other three- too-it was a great evening.
what a windbag.
Maybe he can restore the worlds honor in our eyes. That’s what would impress me.
Apparantly we are citizens of the “world” not america. hhmmmm
Liked that so much I wanted to read it again.
Well, there’s lgm doing what he does best.
P.S.
Oh, yeah! Those are good ones, BM.
sonofly,
Has lgm ever been quick? If so, its gone unnoticed.
BTW just heard on Rush that Obama is already working on his transition team.
Ah to be anointed… the messiah.
I just threw up in mouth.
Just read the great ones speach, Our glorious leader, obama the great (pbuh) is promising to spread the wealth of the developed nations into the undeveloped nations. In other words, hang on to your wallets.
The Germans, unlike most American voters and politicians, have seen precisely how bad war is. They’ve seen the consequences of aggression, both in the places they’ve aggressed against and in their own country. Very few Germans are stupid enough to be pro-war.
Why the subjunctive? You should be using the perfect. That is what they did do when they had a powerful military. And they have, for the most part, rejected militarism. I can’t back that up with anything more than anecdotal from when I was there on foreign study, but I doubt there is more than anecdotal counter-evidence. Yes, the German culture had tended towards violence, but they have rejected that pretty thoroughly. They remind themselves almost constantly of what sorts of evil they were capable of and of their desire to never turn towards that again.
Why are you defining greatness in terms of might? That’s why the Germans don’t like Bush or the militaristic attitude that has come more and more to dominate Americans.
Yes, Germany is militarily weak and almost fascist-proof because of the allies. But they’re also almost fascist-proof because the Germans know enough of their history to know that any militarism of theirs ends poorly for everyone.
What evidence do you have of this resentment? Have you even been to Germany? Your argument seems to be circular: we know that the Germans hate us because they embrace a presidential who’ll weaken the U.S. military, and we know that Obama will weaken the U.S. military because the Germans like him. You know who else the Germans loved? JFK. He fought in WWII (albeit in the Pacific). If the Germans were that motivated by resentment, then you would think that the folks who still remembered the allied bombings of Germany wouldn’t have liked JFK. The Germans have nothing against a strong America. What they don’t like is an arrogant one.
Obama’s Speech in Germany just finished.
Oh my God!
It was beautiful I tell you, just beautiful I felt like jumping up off the couch and breaking into God Bless America.
Brought me to tears.
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What a load of crap. My Bull S**t meter only goes to 10 and it pegged it.
We should’ve nuked Germany too.
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Yes, it was such a proud moment for Obummer…. riding in to Berlin on the coattails of former presidents as great as JFK and Reagan. I guess when Obummer cannot creat his own “great moments” he will just steal some from other leaders and make them his own.
Tennyson: thanks for the great graphic. Obummer’s little visit was another campaign rally. Gosh, I didn’t know that Berliners had the right to vote in the US presidential elections. Who woulda thunk it?
There was nothing great in this guy’s speech. It was just more international pap about how both Germans and Americans are “global citizens” and that we must join together to fight terrorism. The only problem with this message is that the Germans have refused to commit more troops to NATO.
If it’s international cooperation that Obummer wants, it’s all one-sided… our side. And the taxpayers are still footing the bill for such inspired examples of international cooperation as the UN.
jroberts:
The Germans who loved JFK are old now. The “neoGerman” has eschewed their Christian heritage for socialism, and have succumbed to the politics of envy and resentment (again, socialist practice!).
Your romanticizing Germany is quaint, but unrealistic. Germans, like other Euros, HATE America, and want to see America humiliated, stripped of national sovereignty, and its capitalist structure destroyed. After, all, misery loves company.
The speech was just a history lesson that everyone already knows and that the messiah had nothing to do with.
Clown!
Which of those 300 advisors did this?
I think Fox News must be in bed with Obama. If he as much as passes gas they have to top programming and show him.
Gonna have to buy a satellite dish so I can watch Japanese stations until after the election.
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Mine goes to 11, but it’s off the chart.
What’s this Soviet Union you’re referring to? Sounds like it might be a country, but when I checked an Atlas, I couldn’t find it anywhere.
What’s that? They were countered out of existence?
Sooner or later that’s what happens to socialists. They disdain competition (public school teachers and their unions are a prime example) and survival of the fittest ensures their demise.
Most people are not pro-war. I am neither pro-war nor anti-war because I understand that sometimes war is necessary. Those who think that there should never be a reason for war end up like Tibet – OCCUPIED!!!! I lived in Germany for 3 years and spent lots of time in France. People in these countries have hated us because it’s fasionable and trendy. If they hate us then they don’t feel so bad about their own miserable lives.
And how many Germans showed up mostly for the free music concert BEFORE his speech? If Obama is so great why does he always need an opening act?
1. I’m thinking here needs to stop at Lenin’s Mausoleum, Mussolini’s, or even Francisco Franco’s tomb for his last stop.
2. So, does the Logan Act just not apply to anyone?
hereheObama’s just being who he is:
This fact-finding mission is in fact a campaign tour. He is trying to tap into the reverance that a lot of people feel for JFK. He also gets to practice looking presidential. He’s playing the media like a Stradavarius. And he is sucking all of the oxygen out of McCain’s room.
He is just another politician trying to get elected by doing whatever is expedient. But I have to say the man is extremely good at the political game.
Sad to see that so many commenters here have such a negative image of Germany. There are a lot less Germans that are in any way “pro-war” or “pro-military” then you would probably imagine. Here in Germany, there is no kid that has gone to school without ever visiting the death camps, the military prisons and the holocaust museums. Most Germans are, in fact, as “anti-war” as they could probably be and no one (except from some socialist followers from the Eastern part of the country) longs for any “strong man” to take the helm.
For most Germans, war ist and will always be the last possible option, the option you can only take when every other option has already failed. They therefore despise millitary interventionism and nation-building – as did the GOP back in the 80′s and 90′s. This sentiment as well as the left-wing media are the reasons why G.W. is seen as beeing arrogant and BHO is seen as a potential new JFK.
No one here with any sense of history has forgotten or will ever forget how much the US helped us after WWII and during the Cold War. The great enthusiasm for Barack Obama has nothing to do with wanting to see America “go down” under the reigns of a “bad president” and everything with the negative image of the US since the beginning of the Iraq War.
It doesn’t stop… what gall.
Obama camp plasters posters at Western Wall Advertises Democrat candidate’s website, official slogan at Judaism’s holiest site
What’s next, Obama bumper stickers on the Vatican?
Meanwhile, back in the ‘reality-based’ community:
Projected Electoral Votes
Barack Obama: 338
John McCain: 200
http://www.electionprojection.com/index.shtml
Perhaps I am an SOB, perhaps not. But I could really care less what a German, Dutchmen, Brit, Frenchmen or any other Euro Trash socialist thinks of me, my country and most certainly our elections. The war has been over for 60+ years and the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact are gone. If Russia is a problem Europe is all grown up and could raise an Army of their own. NATO is as obsolete as a Model T.
As far as I am concerned the Euro Trash are down right rude sticking their noses in our business. So perhaps I am an SOB but I am an American SOB, my loyalty is to America and my fellow American SOBs.
Besides, in another generation the Euro Trash will all be mohammedan or dhimmi. Brigitte Bardot has been fined by a French court for Insulting (mohammedism). Do we really care what a bunch of weenies such as that think?
Or we could blame the Jews for something to soothe the Europen brow. That they would like.
Allah be Praised
Allie OOP OOP 2
Apparently, MSNBC didn’t get the memo.
I guess I need to buy a new meter for this election. It was okay for the other elections. This one has reached new heights of B.S.
Even Obama thinks the press are unpaid volunteers working for his campaign. In fact, this whole campaign trip has been sponsored by the MSM. Haven’t the press contributed more to Obama’s campaign, in the form of free advertising, than McCain-Feingold legally allows?
It’s not that they are “unpaid” volunteers. It’s just that the networks are paying them, instead of his campaign.
As a cold war symbol, using Berlin made perfect sense for presidents Kennedy and Reagan. It was a valid symbol of the West against the U.S.S.R. (Hitler’s blood brothers in crimes against humanity). But now, it just doesn’t work. The context is wrong. Not that anyone of Obama’s sycophants cares.
I was just discussing this with my husband. Obama’s “citizen of the world” comment could be closely compared with Kennedy’s “Ich bin
einBerliner” line. But the problem, like stated above, is that the context is very different now. Showing solidarity with a free but divided Berlin made sense in the context of the Cold War; it carried the message that the President — and thus, America — had not forgotten its ties with Berlin and West Germany; that the fight to unify wasn’t over.But, Berlin is no longer the point where East meets West: For better or worse, the two halves have reformed into a whole. There is no more “Iron Curtain,” no more Berlin Wall. And, while we still maintain our NATO alliances, I strongly suspect that solidarity with these nations is not what Obama intended. And, while there are implications of collective security in his statement, I’m not sure it’s the type I’d be entirely comfortable with. We’ve already had one president who was a citizen of the world — one who deferred to the UN for justifying the use of force. I’d really hate to have another…especially in this day and age.
Arizona Neanderthal
I am proud to drag my knuckles along side of you…. thanks for saying what I couldn’t put together. Time to tell the world to go to hell. We are the best and I refuse to make apologies. Obama may have stepped in it this time with his pontification. And NO….. leftards and RINO’s … I’m not advocating isolationism.
You’re right Barry F., they are getting paid by the networks to work for Obama’s campaign. But is there any difference between one person giving Obama “money” to buy an ad on TV and another paying for the TV time himself and then giving the “time” to Obama? It adds up to the same thing in my book.
Hey LGM… did you see this from Greg Gutfeld.
Germans don’t like “arrogant” Americans? What is “arrogant” to a German, pray tell?
Is it arrogant to love one’s country and think it is the best place in the world?
Is it arrogant to be a Christian, and to support Christian values in America as our Founding Fathers did?
Is it arrogant to base one’s decisions and actions on America’s best interests?
Excuse me, jroberts, but don’t give me that “arrogant” American crap. It’s very obvious that Germany and other Euro socialist states want to see America weakened, because they resent and envy us. They are socialists! Socialism is based on covetousness and envy.
And Chris from Germany, how about looking in the mirror, instead of making lame excuses for Germany’s shortcomings and psychological pathologies? Wholesale “anti war” sentiment is absurd and suicidal. If Germany wishes to commit national suicide, then by all means, do so. But I’ll be damned before I let them, in their perversity, drag us down the same path.
gribble, just because he might win, doesn’t make him right. Hitler won elections as well before he hmm “changed” the way elections were held.
Barack Hussein Obama:
Sorry, I didn’t know the President of America is the President of the World.
There is no such thing as being a “citizen of the world.” You are either an American citizen or a foreign citizen. You can’t be both. Is Barack Hussein Obama’s loyalty to the “world” or to “America?” I hope John McCain runs with this.
Barack Hussein Obama has just proved he is a traitor and NOT a citizen of America.
Chris from Germany states:
And yet you would support a very anti-Jewish candidate in Barack Hussein Obama, showing Germans’ anti-Semitism once again.
Germans still have a Nazi-like tendency, which is reflected in a militant environmentalism, socialism, and anti-Americanism. Barack Hussein Obama is their new savior, and they have a Nazi-like worship of him.
The reason they don’t like George Bush: It is psychological projection. If they had right now the most powerful military on earth, THEY would be using it for imperialism; therefore, they mistakenly believe that George Bush is using it for imperialism. Why? Because Germans at the core are still Nazis (look at their worship of Obama); therefore, they believe everyone else is, too.
Want proof? The fact that they will do NOTHING while Iran gets nuclear weapons and would do NOTHING if Iran used them against Jews demonstrates their Nazism.
Actualy I believe most germans are anti-war and liberal to the extreme. In fact I think they will submit to islamic rule before fighting again. The prussian culture is mostly as dead as east prussia. (hint, its the bit of old germany still in russian hands.
The obamessiah declaimed:
“I speak to you not as a … fellow citizen of the world.”
And THAT is the problem.
This sophomoronic empty suit is not putting America FIRST, but clearly is putting the UN first.
Come November, he will find himself LAST (God willing).
Is it just me or did the Obama “People Of The World – World Citizen” speech sound like a page from the script of a low budget, cheezy version of some “Left Behind-type” movie where the AntiChrist gives a “State Of The World” address?
Very true. He wanted a ‘permanent Nazi majority’ and that was pure evil.
It would be just as bad as if someone here had wanted, say, a ‘permanent Republican majority’.
Nevertheless, my advice to you after Obama wins is to stop being ‘a nation of whiners’ (thanks, Phil) to ‘suck it up’ (thanks Michelle).
American are such sob’s.
and we are the one thats gonna triple it?
Yeah, but we want the majority by democratic means, not by the means that Hitler won.
Really. You need to brush up on your reasoning skills. Like most libtards, it is quite lacking.
Yup, SonODY, I’ve always attributed it to a deep national sense of shame for having done the wrong thing in/against the rest of Europe & the world so many times over the last century. I’d say Germans learned the wrong lesson.
Gribble, or those who want a permanent democratic majority?
If Obama wins I plan to oppose him in every way possiable and fight hard for his impeachment on any grounds I can find. I will give him no chance at all to win me over. In other words I will treat him exactly the same way bush was treated by your side. And I will chew off my right hand before saluting him.
@Gabe: This attack is pointless. If 200.000 Germans would have cheered for G.W. today would that still have been “Nazi-like” in your eyes?
And as for the Iranian nuclear weapons – I am not much of a fan of our former Chancellor, but when he doubted the Iraq WMD rationale he was obviously right, was he not? Maybe that little episode has contributed to the feeling that attacking Iran would not be the wisest way to deal with their enrichment provocation.
Maybe that is why most Germans also still revere JFK – because he did NOT nuke Cuba even though it did provoke the US. And thank God he did not.
How would you define it? Is Switzerland a great (or even consequential) nation? Tanzania? Laos? Canada? They’ve all got something in common with Germany today, they have no ability to influence events beyond their borders.
Like it or not, military and economic power are inextricably linked to national significance in a global context. It’s what you do with that power that counts. While they had it, the Germans used their power to kill and oppress millions — until alliances of other nations had to band together and put them down in order to save themselves.
If you can give me any examples of how Germany ever used its former military and economic might to intervene for the benefit of other peoples instead of to conquer and enslave them, I’m willing to listen. But consider the recent record:
The Germans pitch in to help us out in places like Afghanistan as part of the NATO mission; but would they have engaged on their own without our leadership? No. They waited for America to go first.
When the Balkans were erupting in violence in the 1990s, what did the Germans do? They sat and watched while thousands were murdered, raped, imprisoned and maimed right on their doorstep, until America took the lead to stop it.
When Saddam Hussein had his foot on the collective necks of the Iraqi people, did the Germans do anything about it? No. In this case, even when America acted in 1991 and 2003, they did nothing but stand on the sidelines and cat-call.
Do any of these sound like the behavioral characteristics of a “great” nation?
Think of it another way, hypothetically: two body-builders live next door to each other. One is a volunteer fireman and a police reservist. He contributes the most to all the local charities. When others are in trouble, he does lots of heavy lifting to help solve the problem without having to be cajoled into action, because that’s just the way he is.
And the other guy? He used his muscles in a different way. In fact, he’s only recently been released after spending 40+ years in prison for murder, rape, and theft. His neighbor played a major role in helping to stop his criminal rampage.
He only offers to help others after his neighbor acts first, and then only grudgingly and with as little effort as he can get away with. While not everybody likes his neighbor, when the chips are down everybody turns to that neighbor — and not to him.
Is it hard to accept that this man would resent his neighbor, not only for ending his crime spree, but also for using his power in such a way as to highlight just how wrongly he used his own?
That’s today’s Germany.
Now, let’s step aside from generalities. There are excellent examples of Germans acting nobly today for the sake of others, and Germans who don’t despise Americans. I’ll never forget how, on 9/11, a German navy destroyer passed close alongside an American destroyer, and flew the American flag from its mast while its crew unfurled a huge banner reading, “We Stand With You.” I’ve known Germans individually who, as you say, like America and Americans (btw, your “Have you ever been to Germany” question is just a variation of the bankrupt “chickenhawk” trope, and I won’t bother addressing it, hope you’ll understand).
But I strongly doubt that many, if any of them will be in attendance at Obama’s campaign stunt in Berlin. The — I’m sorry to say majority — of Germans who resent America for making Germany look mean and small by comparison will be out in force.
And the question again arises, “Why?”
If it were George Bush or John McCain, giving a speech in Berlin today, would scores or even hundreds of thousands of Germans show up? Would those in attendance be treating either man like a rock star?
You know the answer to that question.
Why? Because said Germans know that George Bush and John McCain are unapologetic about America’s power and influence in the world, and they don’t even have to contrast Germany’s comparative lack of contribution to generate resentment for it.
But Obama is going to get the celebrity treatment by the same Germans. Why?
You know the answer to that question, too.
regulus, WOW, just WOW.
That shame has not left them. You know why? Because they are no longer Christian. The concept of forgiveness and redemption is lost in atheist Europe. Therefore, they have no means for their society to find healing. That, in turn, will metasticize into a greater “disease”, or problem.
You people with the Hitler talk really need to check yourselves in for help. Get back to me when you can add:
-Blaming problems on one ethnic group.
-desire to systematically imprison and kill that entire ethnic group
-a derire for ethnic cleansing to achieve racial and national superiority
-a desire for world domination, by conquering the globe one country at a time.
Come back with the Hitler comparisons when you can check some of these off. Come back to earth.
Speaking of celebrity treatment in Germany, this just in on the NYT…of course, let’s not forget the huge splash on the front page (web) on Odumbo.
Here’s a subheadline: German Press Agog Over Obama
And a make me puke moment in the last paragraph:
Can anyone say…”The Emperor has No Clothes?”
Beautiful, just beautiful! Not just in pithy goodness, but so quick too!
But the Soviet Union isn’t the only reason we were there. We also had to disassemble the German military and deal with Nazis and war criminals (Germans, not foreigners!) who were still on the loose. That included both capturing them so they could be tried for their crimes and protecting the civilian population, the new government, and our own troops from possible attacks. The country also needed rebuilding, not just houses and places of business, but infrastructure such as railroads, factories, power production, water treatment and distribution, etc. The population also had food, shelter and medical needs which could only be provided by an outside organization because we has so efficiently destroyed theirs to win the war.
The big difference between Germany and Iraq on these fronts is that we didn’t destroy nearly as much of the infrastructure, rather Saddam had let it deteriorate while he put the money into the military and his palaces. But the people still have the same needs and we’re covering that (mostly through civilian contractors) while their own government is growing its ability to take on those tasks on their own, just like we did in Germany.
misstressjustice,
Get off your high horse, I was comparing political tactics not belief systems. The scapegoats here is using are neocons, not a racial group but he is using alot to the same techques and quite effectively for those who are weak minded enough not to look further. Does he plan genocide? I doubt it but a re-education program is not out of the question, to “help” us of course think in a political correct way.
Wow, only 5 comments in before a Hitler reference! Looks like Godwin’s Law is proven true much faster when Germany is part of the discussion.
Have to work on that one:
CBS: Constantly Barack’s Servants
NBC: New Barack Clowns
ABC: All Barack Clowns
Hey Chris: Stay in Germany/ No you can not have Poland/Czech Republic/Low Lands/Denmark/Greece/the Balkans or Norway. You want France? Go ahead.
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Allah be Praised
Allie OOP OOP 2
Ha ha ha ha.
lgm, let me get this straight. You claim that I think McCain is god-like simply because I don’t disagree with him on important positions?
I’m very happy that you post on this site. You make all conservatives look brilliant!
Then, by this board’s standards, you would be a scurrilous traitor by daring to oppose your President at a time of war. I have no doubt there will be the same calls for you to be given a swift trial and then immediately taken out back and shot.
BO…Correct planet, wrong country.
Take two.
Sorry, but this guy is anything but a beginner – he’s already 8 years ahead of Bill Clinton in running for “Emperor of Earth”
What an embarrassment. I read the speech – a real bore, at least the Philly speech had expressed some fresh ideas publicly, even when it gave early viewing of his twisted liberal views of the rest of the country.
It seems as that the cast of 300 foreign policy consultants couldn’t zero in on something meaningful to say, so they focused on ZERO.
Thank you, Regulus. I almost burst a vein in my forehead preparing to respond.
Yes, the USA is great because we are mighty, amongst other things. We are not thugs. And arrogance? That’s rich. It’s not arrogance when it’s true.
Hitler didn’t make this known to all of the people right up front either…although it was indeed his agenda. Remember? If we act like he campaigned on these points, you would probably jump down our throats & say ‘but the average German had no idea what he and his SS were really up to!’
chapoutier:
If you say so. There is a reason Obama only appears before hand picked military groups. We tend not to like people who advocate policies that lead to defeat and larger wars.
Great ! You want to impeach him BEFORE he takes office. Why wait for an actual crime to be committed ? That’s a wonderful view of democracy.
It’s a good thing that we can monitor your phone conversations, because you might just be a terrorist
So are you saying that the democrats have been on the wrong track for the last 8 years? wow. Since I would simply be repeating thier tactics minus the “stolen election” crap of course
Not my standard…this board’s.
I say go ahead and practice all of the patriotic dissent against Obama that you wish.
But I wonder why you think Obama only appears before hand picked groups of military folks and/or why you think any other politician does not.
I do recall that during the primaries, an article saying two candidates that were receiving the most donations from members of the military were Ron Paul and Obama, so my guess is that his support among our soldiers is not as weak as you would like to believe.
Hints of criticism and the Obammameister’s devotees just sweep on in! Dems, until you can prove why I should vote for a cult of personality based on leadership ability (not just scant details of a community organizing, then a state senate, then a senate career) then we’ll talk.
Basing ones vote on charisma, personality, race, etc. etc. harkens many back to the past where it didn’t take much to be a leader. When has Obummer put the country first? Not the world, but the country? To weaken our defenses by getting rid of our nuclear arsenal…. how smart is that?
No one is asserting that Obummer is Hitler. It’s a lot more complicated than that and most people know it. The kind of techniques that Obummer uses: scapegoat a group such as the military, neocons, Pres. Bush, Republicans, even though Dems aren’t exactly doing all that well in the governing stakes right now, using advertising methodology that employs Communist emblems similar to what Mao or Che Guevara would have used, speaking in grandiose ideas with very few details.
Let’s be clear: Obummer hasn’t sealed the deal yet for his presidency. There are approximately 34% of independents unconvinced by either candidate. There are even more so unconvinced whether or not Obummer has the interests of the country at heart.
So, to folks like huggybear: the issue of a potential Obummer presidency goes way beyond comparison’s to Hitler and I think you know it.
Not in my experience, then again I am in and you are not, so what would I know. Oh I plan dissent alright.
Go Regulus!
Preaching to the choir, my friend. I’m not the one comparing Obama — or any politician, for that matter — to Hitler.
He can only manage a 6 point lead and the right hasn’t even dug into his past much yet. His strong link to black liberation theology has yet to be fully exposed.