Next stop, Germany: Ich bin ein beginner!
Germany awaits The One. After getting heckled at the Western Wall, a fact you will be hard pressed to find reported in the American media, Barack Obama has arrived in Germany.
Wonderful Tennyson Hayes has once again produced a special Obama poster to commemorate the occasion:
The Citizen of the World is ready for his photo-op:
“Barack Obama arrived in Germany Thursday morning to much fanfare, as local television stations aired live coverage and fans gathered in the streets for a glimpse at the U.S. Democratic presidential candidate who will be delivering a much anticipated speech here later today.
Obama said the speech, which is to address transatlantic relations, isn’t comparable to famous ones in Berlin by Presidents Kennedy and Reagan because “they were presidents. I am a citizen. But obviously Berlin is representative of the extraordinary success of the post-World War II effort to bring the continent together and to bring the West together and then later to bring the East and the West together. So I think it’s a natural place.”
Yeah, never mind all that Nazi symbolism and stuff…
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Lets just say that I do not put as much faith in what the Swift Boaters said as most here. Didn’t one of them perjure themselves or something by signing an affidavit stating something for which they had no knowledge?
In any case, plenty of people also back up Kerry’s testimony, so what are we left with?
Most (not all) of his boat mates saying one thing and the entire rest of his unit saying another, thats about 8 to 150.
FREE EAST PRUSSIA!!!
Kerry still not willing to hand over his fully military records for starters. Must be some neat stuff tucked away in there if they still exist in their original printed copies as typed by his superior officers upon exiting.
And it is no shock to me at least that you would side with that slimeball.
Obama’s “speech” in Berlin sometimes came off like the rambings of a madman…no, not Hitleresque, but rather confusing, jumbled and meaningless.
I most certainly hope that American media cite specifics from this to highlight the “not quite all there” nature of this individual, whom some sock puppeteers wish to make President of the United States.
@sonofdy: The nazi party is, of course, illegal, but there are some political parties with a neo-nazi agenda, that have not been outlawed. You just don’t hear so much about them in the news because they regularly score like 0.05% in the national elections and most of the time only succeed in humiliating themselves.
As for David Hasselhoff… Well, no defense there, except maybe for the fact that Baywatch was a pretty famous show in the US as well… Which is still not a good explanation for why his albums sold that well in Germany.
The swift boaters made plenty of contradictory claims, and made statements contemporaneous with the incident that contradicted their “memories” later on.
And its a few more than 8.
And what about one of the members, Steve Hayes recanting and saying this:
chapoutier: So you say.
sonofdy
after having handled yourself well during this thread, you now see why Taquiya will be successful in this country. I join Arizona Neanderthal in never giving up my natural rights as espoused by the Founding fathers and documented in the static Constitution to a culture and a people who view the United States as an enemy of the World order, racist, sexist or militaristic to a fault greater than that of Europe, Sudan, all Middle East and Socialist areas.
Nope. So says Steve Hayes.
EVERYONE must follow this link and notice a few things:
1. As you are waiting for the page to load, you see the slightly fuzzy image of that “Presidential” seal that he suppposedly stopped using.
2. At the bottom of the page, you’ll see that Obama has somehow managed to harness all the potential energy of “hope” to power his website and campaign (“Powered by hope…”)
and finally
3. You MUST read the comments left there by the Obamaniacs. It’s truly, truly frightening. People on the left should at least admit it is not healthy to worship a man, a politician, like this. I mean, conservatives never behaved like this over anyone, even Ronald Reagan, or W in his prime.
Here is an example of one comment left on that site:
Sigh. The last time people threw caution to the wind and fell head over heels for a candidate, a lot of bad stuff happened…
OOPS! I forgot the link! Silly me.
GRRRR! I’m having issues with this.
I think the problem is my network here at work.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/stateupdates/gGxy9h/commentary
Third time’s a charm, eh?
I AM NOT A WORLD CITIZEN! What made this country great was it’s resistance to being like the world…. never , ever do I wish to see us lower ourselves to that realm and disappoint the Founders.
Amen MNUSMC.
libertybelle
if that pose doesn’t remind one of the Socialist eras of the 30′s, 40′s and 50′s nothing ever will…. chilling in the worst way
How about this? This is from Obamessiah’s actual newsfeed?!
http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=1&realattid=f_fj1wbxcc0&attid=0.1&disp=inline&view=att&th=11b570b8e1ac0253
I know!! I don’t understand how they can let themselves be sucked in so completely. No matter how much I like a politician or candidate, I always reserve a little grain of salt, you know what I mean?
I guess that’s because I recognize the human nature of my candidates.
For so many people that don’t believe in God, calling that a belief a mystic superstition, I would like them to explain to me how Obamaworship is any different?
Gabe:
I agree. The Germans have frequently not liked American military intervention. However, there’s a difference between that and what resentment. If I’m understanding Regulus correctly, his use of ‘resentment’ is about the same as Nietzsche’s use of ‘ressentiment.’ The Germans are now weak and we are strong; the Germans don’t like that we are strong because they want them to be strong and us to be weak. This is different from not liking that we seem to use our strength arbitrarily or selfishly. This is about strength and the lack thereof per se. Disagreeing with our entanglement in Afghanistan in the 80s, or our invasion of Iraq in 2003 could just as well be about a general prejudice against war as about resentment. There’s a difference between opposing our strength and opposing our (as seen from outside) excessive and arbitrary desire to use it.
I just came across a very interesting photo from Obama’s event today.
Does that picture, uhhh, ummm, remind anyone of anything? (Hint: life imitates Photoshop)
Whoa!
I said that Germans still have their Nazi-like character. You can see that in the 200,000 Germans cheering on their new savior, Barack Hussein Obama. He gives them “hope,” just as Hitler gave them “hope.” The character of Germans has not changed. This is why they are so against an “arrogant” America.
They feel that if we use our military force, it would be for the same reason, if they had a powerful military, they would use theirs: For imperialism. The fact that they so misunderstand America shows they are projecting what THEY would do onto us. They are still the same people that elected Hitler and let him kill 6 million Jews.
Heh.
Tennyson…hahahahahahah!
That is frighteningly hilarious!
You should start charging Obama’s campaign.
You really don’t know the origins of fascist/National Socialist/socialist/communitst do you?
No The Nazis were NOT conservative, neither Hitler nor the Party ideologues ever claimed to be conservative-they were most certainly Socialist Revolutionary. Much has been written that Hitler wasn’t socialist as he did not nationalize industry. He said he was going to after the war ended in 1941 or 42 at the lastest.
The fascism of Italy and national socialism of Germany were the same socialism of Lenin. Lenin and later Stalin wanted all the socialist parties of Europe subservient to Moscow and Hitler and Mussolini didn’t share power with anybody.
I doubt too many of these Nazi or Neo-Nazi clowns running around the US have a clue as to the true nature of national socialism either. And I am rather certain you can’t show where many of them vote, much less vote Republican.
But that National Socialism and communism were opposed to each other and that the NAZIs were conservative is poor history. Hitler ranted against Bolshevism, meaning Stalin and Russia. The communist he killed in Germany were Commitern–loyal to Stalin.
It is a great read if you are interested.
Flip the image around and guess who’s right hand ( after the flip) is posing a certain way? I, unfortunately, am a piker when it comes to photoshop technique
No wonder Germans love Obama. He hates our troops and prefers Germans. Funny how visiting wounded troops is not “allowed” but visiting 200,000 adoring foreigners is. What a jerk.
http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/269207.php
If the McCain campaign is smart, they will make a campaign commercial: Obama prefers Germans to wounded soldiers.
Really. They stole my completely absurd, over-the top, crazy-bombastic, totally cartoonish fake Photoshopped ridiculous clown pose and had their actual candidate reproduce it in real life!
Truth is indeed stranger than fiction.
This would all be so amusing if the consequences were not so serious. Hopefully the majority of thinking Americans will be turned off by the fact that he cares more what David Hasslehoff’s fans think than our soldiers in the field.
Oh Tennyson, since you are so talented, could you pretty please think about these two possible posters:
-a “Bewitched” Obama poster
-something with the ‘Hoff and Obama together…and all their adoring German fans…
Actually I do quite well. But obviously you don’t know much about the neo-nazi groups within our own borders. What is currently their number one issue? Immigration. And which party’s stance do you think they prefer? And per the 14 characteristes of Facism, I’d say Republicans have a head start there.
#327: Excellent ideas, both. I’ll put them on my list – no promises, I’m already way behind on requests. The Hoff… hmm, good one…
Just watched the evening news. In his Berlin speech, Obama said he may not look like those who from America who have spoken to you in the past … May not look like them? Who gives a flying **** what he looks like? What an adolescent twit. Screw him. Running for prez? What an immature, vacuous sack of ****. First it’s “And did I mention he’s black”, now it’s “may not look like …”. We have a child running around Europe who may become the next POTUS.
Tennyson, you are a genious. Period.
The speech today literally (and I do mean literally) made me sick to my stomach. I read it, did not watch it, and I am sure I got the message a lot clearer than the drooling masses. It is disgusting. He plays the race card within the few sentences, and it goes downhill from there. I tried to pick out the worst passage, but one is more disgraceful than the last. How sad, and terrifying, that there are so many in this country that agree with this nut job.
genius, sorry!
Here it is:
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/24/obama.words/index.html
Obama: “I know that I don’t look like the Americans who’ve previously spoken in this great city.”
It’s sickening he refers to his physical appearance the very first thing after brief introductions and courtesies. He seriously has major issues with his own racial identity. I don’t want this nutcase anywhere near the White House.
TOS
Are you saying that because I, for example, am against illegal immigration, want strong borders, want to do away with affirmative action, want to destroy the nanny state… am a neo nazi… because if not, that’s your intonation.
#328…YOU ARE A FRICKIN’ MORON!
I lived in Germany from 1987-2006, there are plenty of neo-nazis in the former east and they are elected representatives in german parliament.
When Reagen visited Berlin, the nut jobs in Berlin were rioting and burning cars in the city. I know, I was there for 6 years and witnessed Reagens speech. Germany is a socialist style country, they always welcome the dummocrats.
TOS, I repeat, you are a moron!
True but what he may not realize is that JFK went to Berlin at the height of the Cold War and tweaked the Soviets nose and gave hope to millions that the free world hadn’t forgotten them. If Obama was up to the task he’d be in Darfur or the Mountains of Pakistan or the jungles of Columbia making his own moment instead of re-living someone elses. But he’s no Kennedy. Even Teddy isn’t JFK and he’s got the DNA…Obama’s like a movie set, all facade.
WOW, If I were McAmnesty, I’d fire Juan Hernandez because he’s not delivering
Tsk tsk OtherSide. Let’s look at your inartful* comment:
And per the 14 characteristes of Facism, I’d say Republicans have a head start there.
1. How do you know so much about neo-nazi groups and their inner workings and desires?
2. Have you ever actually engaged a “Republican” or a “Conservative” in a real conversation, say over a cup of coffee?
I’ll be brief in presenting the opinion of Conservatives and Republicans in regards to immigration, and I’ll go slow, don’t worry.
The two main points are as follows:
1. We just want to know who is here. This way we can keep track of the “good guys” and the “bad guys” (i.e. hard working immigrants vs. known terrorists, etc.)
2. We do not want our tax dollars funding social programs for illegal immigrants.
That’s it. We welcome people from every corner of the earth, and to suggest otherwise is a purposeful mischaracterization, and you should be ashamed of yourself sir (or ma’am.)
*Inartful: this will allow you the ability to blatantly deceive people with no consequences.
TheOtherSide,
You really need to check up on some of the stuff you believe. For example, those 14 characteristics are really off. Some are so broad that they include characteristics which are not part of fascism. Many of them could apply even to the founders of this country, such as “Obsession with Crime and Punishment”, a government which is only allowed to fund a very few things, including the military, “rampant sexism,” “religion and government intertwined” and so forth.
Oh, and here’s a whopper: “Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights”. You lefties claim Bush is “bad” while ignoring the fact that your side assaults the most basic human right on a regular basis: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
And here’s another whopper: “Controlled Mass Media” Bhwahahahahahahahahahahahah! You mean the mass media which is 90% leftists? You mean the media that even far left Harvard admits is biased in favor of leftists? You know, if you really want to convince us that we’re stupid for believing what you do, it really helps if you don’t make yourself so incredibly stupid in the process.
On the other hand, that list is missing other legitimate marks of fascism such as centralized, all powerful control by the government, a cult of personality practically worshipping a leader, suppression of individual liberties in favor of the “collective good”, and the disparagement of logic and reason and the exaltation of emotionalism.
As for the last two:
Rampant Cronyism and Corruption: Have you been paying any attention to the news coming out of Congress? “The most
ethicalcorrupt House in history.”Fraudulent Elections: Exhibit One: ACORN Exhibit Two: Democrats OPPOSE requiring identification which is a necessary to make sure that there is no cheating by people voting more than once. Exhibit Three: The Democrats <a href=”http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/07/elec02.nj.s.race/”breaking election law in the 2002 senate race. There are plenty of others too.
Correction:
Oh TOS?
To quote a nimrod secular humanist like Lawrence Britt, shows a laziness beyond the pale. Of course, who would a leftist, socialist and Marxist person quote when defining fascism. Never mind history.
Aaaaannd one more correction:
I couldn’t help but notice the little
SatanSoros at the base of the column… (holding up the column, maybe?) This is getting scary.The way the media is treating the news about Obama and The Surge makes me think of that movie from the 80′s Dragonslayer.
In the movie the King and its townspeople (this is Obama and the MSM) were a bunch of appeasers who fed virgins (this would be America’s Sovereignty and Rule of Law) to the Dragon (this represents Al Qaeda, other terrorist groups and militants in Iraq).
A Wizard and his young apprentice (General Petraeus and the troops under his command during The Surge) managed to kill the Dragon. Afterwards the King and the rest of the appeasers walked over to the dragon’s corpse (which was laid out all over the place) and then the King drove his sword into part of the dragon’s body and he was declared the Dragonslayer.
This pretty much sums up Obama’s trip to Iraq. He started out as an appeaser who kept trying to keep funds from continuing the war. He also declared that The Surge did not and will not work and it is a Civil War numerous times.
He finally went to Iraq and he declares that The Surge worked but it was not because of the successes of the US military and then Newsweek declares that The Surge helps Obama. He had done nothing but try to obstruct and obfuscate but then gets the credit.
All hail Barrack Hussein Obama Chicagi the Dragonslayer!
mistressjustice:
You must be joking. If Internet polls and “matchups” were accurate, Ron Paul would have been inaugurated months ago.
There are so many ways to skew those polls (taking them from multiple computers, clearing cookies, etc.), it’s laughable that you would even suggest such a thing.
Jellibean,
Sigh. It’s just a hypothetical argument. I said twice that “I could be wrong”. It’s like arguing whether a prime Michael Jordan could beat Kobe in 1 on 1. In my OPINION, Romney would get his ass handed to him by Obama. He can’t appeal to moderates, and the phony elitest tag would stick better on him than Obama. Romney wouldn’t have McCain’s foreign policy and national security cred. We’ll never know what would actually happen, because it’s not reality.
The polls show Obama winning against Romney, I agree, polls are often wrong, and again, I said I COULD BE WRONG.
Since you believe in dissing polls and all, you can ignore the latest polls showing McCain closing the gap to a virtual tie within the last week. Seriously, dude/lady…whatever.
I have absolutely no sympathy for Germany on this occasion. They chose to have a presidential “candidate” speak in their country. Furthermore, they are so far up his a$$ and think he’s going to win – what happens if he doesn’t? It’s going to put them in a very strange situation when they have to deal with an ongoing Republican administration that I can pretty well rest assure won’t forget their pettiness.
LGM
LGM, the clouds in your link are a reference to the Air Force and have no religious value whatsoever.
Hi belle -
A couple things;
When you have a long URL (internet address) to pass along here, it works better if use the link button above the message box.
You just:
1) Click on “link”
2) Paste the address in the box that pops up
(then it will appear in your comment box below)
3) Type in a name for the address(just “LINK HERE” will work fine)
4) Click the link button again
(That finishes the link by putting a “tag” after your name for the link)
Now you have an address that will show up as a clickable link that just reads “LINK HERE” in your message.
When links get too long they can mess up the page view and might cause some folks to need to scroll sideways.
The other thing:
You need a GMail – Google Email -account to read whatever your link was to; if a person doesn’t use GMail (like me) they can’t login & read it.
Okay, just a heads up on that, belle!
Amendment I:
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/07/barack-bashes-fox-news-asks-if.html#comments
B.Hussein O. supporter threatens a couple over buper sticker:
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/07/it-has-begun-sugar-land-obama-supporter.html#comments
I listened to Hannity & COmbs tonight. They had that miserable Jabba the Hud Frank Luntz gushing all about Obama. Luntz is obviously a turd in the tank with Obama and I wanted to throw a shoe at the TV. The guy was pathetic. I sent Fox an email saying get him off or I stop watching.
Which illustrates the necessity for Amendment II:
If said woman does “send someone”…the police will not get there in time….
Thank YOU Farrakahn (sp) -Rev.Wright and et al +++ the likes of Michelle Obama–
Again:
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/07/it-has-begun-sugar-land-obama-supporter.html#comments
…bumper sticker ….
Here in Southern California, out of total frustration with the evil invasion, I have actually looked at some of their web sites… it disturbs me to have done so, but I have.
I rely pretty much on Rasmussen as the most accurate, MsJustice. I believe it has a pretty good track record and they aren’t on one group’s payroll, e.g. a special interest group, network, yada yada. It’s updated daily at 9:30 AM eastern.
Rasmussen has shown a virtual tie for about a month, given the 2,3,4 point error margins that all pollsters factor in.
The permanent link to the Pres race polling is:
Rasmussen Prez Poll
Of interest on that same page is where it cites what they call “Rasmussen Markets”, which as of today says:
“Rasmussen Markets data gives Obama a 64.4% chance of winning the White House. On Thursday morning, the markets also suggest that Mitt Romney and Evan Bayh are the top running mate prospects. Polling shows similar expectations.”
Apparently it factors in intangibles, sentiments and such that you can take as you will
At any rate you can check it all out at that mainpage.
I think, barring anything unexpected outta left fields events, it’s in October that I’d really start looking at the polls for a good idea of which way the “mo” is going. People will be more settled into politics with more of even the “I dunno” dummies (e.g. “the undecideds”) getting into it.
But, hey, right now it’s summer and we ain’t even had the Dog Days yet. I do wonder, tho, if all the big events and media saturation (I’m looking in your direction in particular now, Obama) might be too much, too early for the average folks who aren’t political junkies. It might have an unintended result like last summer’s Paris Hilton overkill.
Opposition to illegal immigration is Neo Nazi is it?
As I meant to say, you either don’t have a clue or are so internationalist it doesn’t matter. You sing the L’Internationale in the shower? Dr. Lawrence Britt’s 14 characteristes of Facism are nothing by Democratic Party talking points stating President Bush ll was/is a fascist. Try Mussolini.
And on the other we disagree also: Fascism was very much a Democratic Party mode with Woodrow Wilson’s War Socialism; Mussolini just hadn’t coined the name yet.
And yes I know quite a bit about the neo-nazi groups in this country and they are no models of liberal democracy which is Conservative as opposed to statist socialism which is actually quite illiberal but we are stuck with the terms I suppose. Enough of you; as I read back I see this has all been said.
The FAR RIGHT? (o:
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Allah be Praised
Allie OOP OOP 2
So…let me see if i have this correct.
Senator and “Presumed” Democrat Presidential Nominee B. Hussein Obama finds no ethical or legal problems with his campaign funding a trip to Europe and the Middle East, even though none of those countries have any say at all in who gets elected…that the people he is speaking to are neither Americans or registered tvoters..excet for mabe a handful of Americans visiting those lands…yet he DOES seem to think that visiting the sick and wounded men and women in our military at an American Military Hospital would be a very bad thing. It would apparently cause all sorts of ethical problems etc.
So, instead of visiting our soldiers in the hospital, which was not even on the official itinerary in the first place and the first anyone heard of said alleged visit that was cancelled at the last minute due to concerns of ethics violations was when it was announced he would NOT be making the visit, the Empty Suited Annointed Messiah went to the gym instead.
One can only assume that said gym visit was funded by the campaign, or worse, comped to him by the gym itself.
Now, someone please tell me who would have raised a fuss about him visiting the sick and wounded military men and women while he was there? Anyone? Bueller?
Yet this is the person who is attempting to show just what a good little patriot he is, that he supports our troops and all that other Liberal rhettoric they use to hide what they really feel about our military and country.
C’mon McCain…stop sitting on your hands and start using what the Democrats and Obama is giving you gift wrapped on a silver platter. Would the mccain Campaign actually go on the offensive, using nothing more than what the Obama Campaign is giving him, this would be a bloodfest and Obama would be lucky if he were to even keep his seat in the Senate when all was said and done.
no wonder people are thinking he may be too old to be President. He is acting like a dottering old man instead of a candidate for the Leader of the Free World.
Good info Purplepeep. I wish I could wakeup and have November here. This political season is frustratingly long. Factor in the lack of my two favorite sports, football and basketball, the summer is especially long this election year. Bring on the fall.
The debates will be crucial this year. How will Obama admit the surge has worked?(I have my answer on a prior thread on how to do this, and remain right about the war). Will Obama be able to have sufficiently nuanced, logical, answers for his flipflops? Will he be more aggressive than he was against Hillary during the last 2-3 debates? Can he go toe-to-toe with a political, heavyweight veteran?
Can McCain show enough energy and sharpness to keep fears of his age calm? Will he have have sufficiently, logical, nuanced answers for his flipflops? Can he convince America that he’s not another Bush, yet still gain their trust to go Republican yet again?
It’s still early, so the polls(for what they’re worth) won’t matter much until the debates end?
My worry is that there will be an October surprise appearance from Rev. Wright. I fear the jealous meglomaniac will show his face again. McCain has been pretty vetted over the years. However, if there is anything damaging out there on him, I hope the liberal attack groups will hold off until October.
From what I think I understand about you Purplepeep, you don’t support either candidate. I’m not sure what your interest level will be at the finish line. I can’t wait to see the results. This is the most important presidential election of my lifetime, by far. Goodnight.
For reading and learning enjoyment for everyone.
For even better reading enjoyment!
BS… The Messiah blew off troops and the wounded. He is scum. Wow one staged photo, big deal.
Could be, belle. Also browsers sometimes handle things like popups differently depending on misc things.
Another “prob” with the popup link box is that it always – in my browser, at least – has the “http” part of the address already entered by default. So if you don’t delete that one first and then paste in the full address it will have 2 “http”s – and it won’t work.
At any rate, your link is working fine now, belle!
I wonder if Pakistan is as grateful as Andora?:
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/nation_of_andorra_not_in_africa
Pakistan bills the US 1 BILLION $$$$$$ a year for watch staions and the like + another 700,000,000 $$$$$$ for aid.
HMMMMMMMMM
RetFireman,
Great points! I’m with you: What else does John McCain need to go on the offensive? There are so many great campaign commercials in the waiting.
Barack Hussein Obama claims 1) that this trip was NOT a campaign trip when Angela Merkel complained that he should not be campaigning in Germany at the Berlin Wall. Supposedly, it was a trip as a Senator for official business.
Fine. Then why when we refuses to visit wounded soldiers, which any Senator would have done, does he then claim that this trip was a campaign event?
Well, what was it? If it is a campaign, why are our tax dollars paying for it? Why is he campaigning in foreign countries? Are foreign voters more important than our soldiers?
I think he has a very negative and sinister opinion of our military.
Note to John McCain’s campaign staff: If you do not hammer Obama on this, you evidently don’t wish that we win the election. This is a gift.
I hope Michelle Malkin is all over Barack Hussein Obama’s unbelievable rudeness to our troops. . .to go to the gym and ingratiate himself with foreigners for attention.
Are you any relation to Chris Matthews? How is you leg? Depends?
But I shall not fault the Chosen One, the Annointed, He Who Has Come for not visiting wounded soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines.
I rather doubt Dick Durbin’s, our troops are Nazis Durban, little buddy interest too many FIGHTING men. The Fairy Brigade in not really a military unit.
I am beginning to think John McCain is afraid of Barack Hussein Obama.
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Allah be Praised
Allie OOP OOP 2
Well, if you count pre-season pro football, we’re not too far away, at least. You have a team or just watch anything?
(Never cared much for BBall and baseball is like watching paint dry.)
I think those are valid variables. Also, the formats will figure in; people wonder (I know I do) if Obama can handle Town Hall-type debates, where Mccain is usually the odds on favorite. And will McCain be able to “go in for the kill”? He used Huck to “sandwich” (breaking in my football metaphors) Romney during the primaries and tore into Romney unfairly about “timelines”. Will he be “respectful” and keep on lying low (read: “unengaged”) through to the election?
At any rate, lots of questions re: the debates.
The debates have come to be defined in the last 30-35 years for good one-liners and bad fumbles (more football!). You could make a long, long list! “There you go again.”, “Poland is not under Soviet influence”, “Tou’re no Jack Kennedy”, etc. Dukasis’ answer on the death penalty if his wife were raped on and murdered cost him major points overnight. Bush 1 looking at his watch, Gore’s sighing. It can be a tricky business.
For some good watchin’, if you have never seen any of the JFK-Nixon 1960 debate you can view them online/download them for free at the Internet Archive HERE
That’s Part 1, they also have Part 2 there, just do a quick looksee search.
(Not very glitzy or showbizzy, but substantive – no animated snowmen and it gives a person an idea of how debates have really gone downhill.)
I expect the mud will fly from both directions more and more as we go along. It goes with the territory. The info on GWBs’ DUI of many years back came out just a day or so the 2000 election.
I’d say that the two major parties have unleashed the worst candidates I’ve ever seen. If either party could resurrect the real JFK, I’d be pretty happy. I’d be pretty pleased if either ran Zell Miller.
But I don’t tell anyone who I vote for for any office, that’s why voting booths have curtains.
And I don’t tell folks for whom they gotta vote. Especially in a year when the major candidates both – how can I put this delicately? – suck in a mighty way henchforth unknown to mankind.
I think it’s great when citizens feel interested and excited. I’m a bit more jaded, I suppose.
I somewhat expect whoever is the winner will be a one-termer. Unless the person surprises me by being more than equal to the job since I expect lot of shinola is going to hit the fan between now and 2012. e.g will Israel hit the Iran nuke locations? I suspect they will, likely after the US election but before the new President is sworn in. If so, we’ll have to see who jumps in the fray, if anyone.
I’ve seen a few national elections, this one wouldn’t be on my exciting (in a good way) list. It’s more like how you’ll feel good when a bout of stomach flu finally runs it course.
You have a good eve, too!
That jackass Obama lacked enough class to follow through with a visit to wounded members of the military healing in Germany.
rommsey – ditto. BO felt his gym workout was more important than visiting the wounded warriors. After he loses, he’ll have more than enough time for his workouts.
That’s the most offensive thing I’ve ever read on this site.
Look at what Muslims will lobby for if Obama wins:
Muslims for Obama
Rob, what is this? A cry for help? You are becoming unhinged, sir. Perhaps you should move if it affects you in such a disturbing way.
“Which proves my theory, Germans love
David HasselhoffB.O.”- Norm MacDonald, SNL Weekend Update
His official campaign poster is a direct lift of old Lenin propaganda posters:
Obama-Lenin Gaffe
I was sooo embarrassed! The great Obama did not give the speech auf Deutsch! Maybe he should have whipped out his “merci beaucoup.”
Mentioned on Rush today.
Sure. A free concert and lots of beer, and I would be cheering the Messiah too! (but I wouldn’t remember it in the morning…)
Reminds me of that speech where the media had to shoot in such a way as to make it look like there was a crowd in an essentially empty hall.
From Spiegel Online:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,567821,00.html
Of course, with an unemployment rate approaching 8%, there are a lot of people hanging around with time on their hands.
Translation:
No free speech. No wonder Obama wants to tour Europe. They don’t believe in the First Amendment either.
H/T Zip.
Reject torture? Hmmmm who is being accused of torture and breaking international law? He’s talking about America. And who is not welcoming immigrants and not shunning discrimination? Well, that must be America too.
And in the last paragraph here he begins in present tense and then switches to past. So which is it? Have we “not perfected ourselves” because of things we have done in the past, or are we not perfect because we’re “struggling to keep the promise of liberty…” right now?
He was stating the complaints of European America-haters and distancing himself from them. He was validating the accusation of torture against our president and our military and validating the accusation of discrimination and xenophoby against Americans and promising the Germans that “we’ll do better.”
And he was doing this all on foreign soil.
“baseball is like watching paint dry”
I apoligize, Mookie. I didn’t realize a paint fan was in the house. I should have said “Watching baseball is like watching the neighbor’s dog scratching his fleas.”
Did you ever catch the classic George Carlin comparison of Baseball to football (YouTube)
Yup, AzN, the snubbing of America’s wounded for a staged bball photo-op is tailor made and ripe for some bigtime haymaking.
You missed highlighting this, 29V:
“Will we welcome immigrants from different lands?’
America’s been doing that for hundreds of years.
Of course, what he means is “will America give free reign to MS-13 to rape, rob and murder Americans on American soil with impunity?”
And, of course, Americans answer “Hell, no, BO!”
Huge, huge paint fan here. And Carlin fan. I love that bit. My favorite line is, ” In football, during the game in the stands, you can be sure that at least twenty-seven times you’re capable of taking the life of a fellow human being.” I agree that it happens much more in football but something tells me Carlin never went to a Yankees/Red Sox game.
And then there’s the old joke – I recycle old jokes if little else – about going to a boxing match and seeing a hockey game break out!
(An oldie, but still a goodie.)
One of my bros is really into watching baseball, though. Well, just the Twins, mostly.
MORE ON OBAMA’s REFUSAL TO VISIT AMERICAN WOUNDED
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*** UPDATE *** From NBC’s Jim Miklaszewski and Courtney Kube
A U.S. military official tells NBC News they were making preparations for Sen. Barack Obama to visit wounded troops at the Landstuhl Medical Center at Ramstein, Germany on Friday, but “for some reason the visit was called off.”
One military official who was working on the Obama visit said because political candidates are prohibited from using military installations as campaign backdrops, Obama’s representatives were told, “he could only bring two or three of his Senate staff member, no campaign officials or workers.” In addition,
“Obama could not bring any media. Only military photographers would be permitted to record Obama’s visit.”
The official said “We didn’t know why” the request to visit the wounded troops was withdrawn. “He (Obama) was more than welcome. We were all ready for him.”
What’s Not On Obama’s Schedule (MSNBC First Read(
But both presidential candidates support illegal immigration… so I think it is more like, HELL YES!
Good morn, Rob. But I was speaking of Americans there, not their pathetic elite political class!
Aside from the manic Nazi references from certain loons (if all Germans are still Nazis, are all NASCAR fans backward hillbillies?) this thread was full of win.
Although I shouldn’t add fuel to the fire, this really is quite funny…
I read that earlier, sausage. Great good fun!
Funny, but it accurately portrays how Obummer sees himself.
That is both sad and pathetic. If there were ever a single reason that you would keep you from voting for Obama, the final straw on the camel’s back, this is it. Even Bill Clinton would at least fake the compassion. And to hear that he went shopping instead? Or was it a trip to the gym? Or both?
I wonder if anyone will go back to Iraq, and interview all the soldiers seen smiling and shaking his hand, and tell them he did this, that the soldiers are nothing more than a PR prop for this poseur, this pretender, this empty shell of a man?
Probably when monkeys fly out of my butt.
purplepeep,
Read you MSLSD link. The funniest thing was all the mootbats defending Obama’s behavior.
Since they couldn’t turn it into a campaign promo with pres in tow, the Obama campaign bailed. Classless. Exactly what to expect from an Obama administration.
lol – yeah, I’ve come across a few odd excuses. The bottom line is you set the campaign & media gang aside and take some time to say “thank you” – all by yourself, if need be. That is if he really had wanted to, of course.
Thing is, as this campaign wears on, there will be still countless more examples and reasons why nobody in their right mind should even think about voting for The Empty Suit…let alone ever actually do it. This is just one of the many so far.
Why wasn’t this given in German? Isn’t that intolerant of Obama?
Here we go with the Nazi card again. Doesn’t matter if it’s 2000 or 150 years old, if Hitler touched it, it’s Nazi from now on until the end of time.
dallas7:
The “Nazi” reference is about the character of the German people, which seems to have this flaw that seeks the savior in a political system. The Naziism of 70 years ago is a symptom of a deeper problem.
There are no saviors in politics. Grown ups who live in reality understand that, which is why we see idiotic journalists and libtards swooning over Obama – they are adolescents.
Every people of a nation bears some kind of character flaw. This thread addresses those of the Germans. We could just as easily point out that of Japan’s or ourselves.