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1. #386629
   On July 25th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, RetFireman said:

   220…221…whatever it takes.

2. #386630
   On July 25th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, Blind_Mule said:

   Ok, maybe this is why they have the numbers all screwed up

3. #386631
   On July 25th, 2008 at 2:25 pm, chapoutier said:

   Here is another picture from a different angle. I swear it looks like the are doing a “Heil Hussein” gesture.

   No. They are swaying in ecstasy and speaking in tongues. Its what we all do at the Obama reviv-… ah I mean political rally.

4. #386636
   On July 25th, 2008 at 2:27 pm, xler8bmw said:

   #72 where did you find that picture…..

5. #386647
   On July 25th, 2008 at 2:32 pm, SPCOlympics said:

   Here is another picture from a different angle. I swear it looks like the are doing a “Heil Hussein” gesture.

   Nah, it’s a new slogan:

   Raise your hands if you like BO

6. #386648
   On July 25th, 2008 at 2:32 pm, BrianNY said:

   One thing I don’t understand: whether 20,000 or 200,000, why would so many German people show up to listen to a guy from another country who is only running for office, and not actually a head of state?

   Could you ever imagine 20,000 to 200,000 Americans congregating to listen to some schmoe who’s running for office in Germany?

   Do the people of Berlin have a lot of time on their hands? Or do people still force them congregate for speeches like that?

7. #386650
   On July 25th, 2008 at 2:33 pm, sambo said:

   libertybelle said:
   It’s so ironic. Remember how people were soooooo embarrassed by President Bush? Well, I am so totally and completely embarrassed by Obama’s European egotrip. It’s like a carnival.

   I am so totally and completely embarrassed that he didn’t speak in German.

8. #386665
   On July 25th, 2008 at 2:47 pm, IndependentTom said:

   LOL, Purplepeep…I’ll try to find one.

   On a more serious note..

   Obama’s attempt to tie himself to the memories of JFK and to prove he is a “world citizen” are the obvious reasons for this international leg of his campaign.

   It’s all about image….

   And that makes him just another politician.

9. #386675
   On July 25th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, Blind_Mule said:

   IndependentTom said:
   Obama’s attempt to tie himself to the memories of JFK and to prove he is a “world citizen” are the obvious reasons for this international leg of his campaign.

   More like “World Leader” as his new logo pronounces

10. #386680
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:05 pm, purplepeep said:

    IndependentTom said:
    LOL, Purplepeep…I’ll try to find one.

    On a more serious note..

    Obama’s attempt to tie himself to the memories of JFK and to prove he is a “world citizen” are the obvious reasons for this international leg of his campaign.

    It’s all about image….

    And that makes him just another politician.

    Yeah, to be sure he and the media tried to make some kind of mental-emotional linkage to JFK (and Reagan), Tom. I don’t think it worked very well, he came off more like a college kid delivering a trippy-60s type commenencement speech than anything else. I would be surprised if polls done after this trip show him gaining anything from it.

    I think the Obama saturation point is here or at hand for most Americans. Y’know like how you’d wanna throw out your TV out the window if you heard one more story about OJ or Paris Hilton?

    But you don’t want to stop the guy from stumbling around like this! I’d be happy if he’d stay outta the US and in Europe for a month with nothing but Obama 24/7 back home driving voters nuts.

11. #386685
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:10 pm, Rekd said:

    On July 25th, 2008 at 12:18 pm, dan708 said:

    Maybe 200,000 was the number of MEDIA there!

    I need to find a squeegie for my monitor.

12. #386687
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:12 pm, Yashmak said:

    I have to agree with the majority here. There’s no way that’s 200,000 people. Not even close.

    My city’s local festival, the Asparagus festival, attracted a grand total of just over 100k people this year, and I was there to witness the crowd. It occupied a width of a couple of main streets of downtown Stockton, about 8-10 city blocks long, and was easily as dense as the crowd shown in the pictures of Obama’s speech. 100k was the attendance figure for an evening and 2 days, meaning on a given day, only ~33k-40k people were there. Given that a crowd of 33k people covered a much larger area than is shown in that picture, I’d guess the figure is closer to the 20,000 attendees estimate.

    Yeah, not very scientific, but good enough that I doubt it’s off by anywhere NEAR an order of magnitude.

13. #386689
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:13 pm, IndependentTom said:

    Good points all, Purplepeep….

    I think I may have reached my saturation point not only with Obama but with McCain, our do-nothing congress, and with the political process (as it currently exists) in general.

    I’m really considering doing “beer and brats” on election day and staying home.

14. #386690
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:14 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 25th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, chapoutier said:

    Now, oh great expert at photographic interpretation, tell us how many of those people came to see Obama, and how many came to see the free rock concert preceding him.

15. #386692
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:18 pm, Yashmak said:

    . . .plus, if there had been 200,000 Germans gathered for ANY reason, there would have been news articles today about France pre-emptively surrendering.

    And there wasn’t.

16. #386694
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:18 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On July 25th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, RetFireman said:
    220…221…whatever it takes.

    Heh. Great line from a great movie. We are dating ourselves!

17. #386697
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:19 pm, chapoutier said:

    tell us how many of those people came to see Obama, and how many came to see the free rock concert preceding him.

    I have no idea what the motivations were. All I know is that I have an official police estimate for my basis. And note that that is where the number came from, not Obama’s campaign and not the MSM, they just reported it using that number.

    And you all have what?

    A TV reporter guy?

    Has anyone given me one reason why the police would so egregiously misstate the number? No.

    Has anyone offered me any evidence that they did so? No.

    But this issue is frankly becoming rather stupid. Whatever the number, it was an impressive crowd.

18. #386705
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:28 pm, purplepeep said:

    IndependentTom said:
    Good points all, Purplepeep….

    I think I may have reached my saturation point not only with Obama but with McCain, our do-nothing congress, and with the political process (as it currently exists) in general.

    I’m really considering doing “beer and brats” on election day and staying home.

    Naw, go out and if nothing else vote for yourself as a write in for every office. At least you’ll know what you’re getting if you win. Besides, it’s a grand just-for-the-heckuvit tradition to go down to the polling place, if nothing else. Also, there’s fun odd little things like school bonds, sewage disposal, or other cool stuff to vote for/against.

    And if you do it early, you still have plenty of time for brats and brew.

19. #386709
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:29 pm, Dimsdale said:

    On July 25th, 2008 at 1:00 pm, chapoutier said:

    I got up to 38,521 in what is visible in the front before I lost count.

    But why does everyone think the Berlin police are lying? They said 200,000. Again THE BERLIN POLICE said 200,000.

    Of course, if they are like the local cops around here, the number of cops that get paid overtime is based on the size of the crowd….

    /part sarc

    On July 25th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, ajmontana said:

    psssst, they’re all plants.

    Well, they can’t all be vegetables!

    Maybe they were just there for the “miracles” given all the positive coverage given BHO.

    Or they just had to see the sideshow after the concerts and all the beer.

20. #386718
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:36 pm, purplepeep said:

    On-my-soap-box said:
    We are dating ourselves!

    You can go blind from doing that, y’know.

21. #386724
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:39 pm, Southpaw said:

    This is easy. Look at the pictures of the Obama event. Then watch the videos of any of these:
    - ACDC, Stiff Upper Lip – Live at Munich Olympic Stadium
    - Genesis – Live at Wembley Stadium
    - Queen – Live at Wembley Stadium
    - Paul McCartney – Live In Red Square
    All probably had crowds of 200,000

    Or Roger Waters – Live At the Berlin Wall (probably 500,000)

    You decide.

    By the way, all are excellent concerts.

22. #386737
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:49 pm, taylork said:

    One thing I don’t understand: whether 20,000 or 200,000, why would so many German people show up to listen to a guy from another country who is only running for office, and not actually a head of state?

    7.5% unemployment rate= 3.16 millionpeople unemployed (East Berlin has an even higher unemployment rate of 13.6% as of June 08). And as we all know, unemployment rates only count the people actively looking for work. Given that Germany has an extremely generous social welfare system, you can bet there are hundreds of thousands of more people content on being unemployed and living off the government.

    Besides it was a Thursday, if you’re employed chances are you’re working and not going to rock concerts and seeing foreign officials attempting to be heads of state.

    So here’s what I’m saying, if you have free music, food, and beer, the unemployed will come….and there are a lot of unemployed in Germany.

23. #386740
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:50 pm, sambo said:

    Yashmak said:
    . . .plus, if there had been 200,000 Germans gathered for ANY reason, there would have been news articles today about France pre-emptively surrendering.

    And there wasn’t.

    LOL…Obama’s next stop in France pre-emptively halted the pre-emptive surrendering.

24. #386741
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:51 pm, Scooter36 said:

    whether its 20,000 or 200,000 its more than mr mclame will ever get…jealous much? now squeeel!!!! weeeeeeee weeeeee!!!!

25. #386745
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:52 pm, sonofdy said:

    So here’s what I’m saying, if you have free music, food, and beer, the unemployed will come….and there are a lot of unemployed in Germany.

    ————

    Hell I would… Free booze, food and music? And all I have to do is half listen to some bozo drone on for a few minutes? I would be in if I were unemployed.

26. #386746
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:53 pm, sonofdy said:

    scooter36: grow up.

27. #386749
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:55 pm, taylork said:

    Really, we shouldn’t be too impressed. They’re giving away freebies, and they get to see the Messiah and (for parody’s sake we’ll assume all those people were unemployed)he could only get 40% of the unemployed (Berlin has over 500,000 unemployed in a population of nearly 3.5 million). Not too good BO, not too good.

28. #386768
    On July 25th, 2008 at 4:04 pm, allrsn said:

    On July 25th, 2008 at 1:02 pm, mlnicosia said:
    why no mention of the fact that there was a concert before the obama speech? Newsbusters is the only place i see that story.

    Really, no wonder he was able to get a sparse crowd to stay and listen to him spit.

29. #386770
    On July 25th, 2008 at 4:06 pm, allrsn said:

    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:52 pm, sonofdy said:
    So here’s what I’m saying, if you have free music, food, and beer, the unemployed will come….and there are a lot of unemployed in Germany.

    free concert, free beer, free food, any pretty women???

    Hey boss….

30. #386792
    On July 25th, 2008 at 4:16 pm, purplepeep said:

    allrsn said:
    free concert, free beer, free food, any pretty women???

    Sorry, all gone, allren – they’re all in love with, engaged to or married to American men. They may be Euro, but they aren’t crazy!

31. #386855
    On July 25th, 2008 at 4:50 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Must’ve been counting all the folks who were watching TV too.

32. #386871
    On July 25th, 2008 at 4:59 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    We can figure out how to get a ship from here to land on a small moon orbiting Saturn, yet we can never get an accurate crowd count. I remember that we had the same problem a couple years ago with the numbers at the immigration rallies.

33. #386878
    On July 25th, 2008 at 5:05 pm, Mixer14 said:

    200,000 or 20,000?

    Doesn’t matter. These are German citizens who can’t vote in our election.

    If the Obama campaign is really that interested in the German voting population, he should run for President of Germany.

    Oh, no big surprise that the media coverage (or should I say the one-sided telescoped coverage) of Obama may make it seem like 200,000.

    The old AFL (American Football League) used to pack people in the first four rows of seats and the end zones in the stadiums and then tell ABC and NBC to keep the cameras tightly cropped so that it would appear more people were at the game.

    Sounds like Obama’s campaign might be using the same tactic.

34. #386884
    On July 25th, 2008 at 5:07 pm, oldcollegeguy1980 said:

    20,000, or 200,000, or 2,000,000.

    I just assumed they were lying, no matter which number they hyped.

35. #386948
    On July 25th, 2008 at 6:09 pm, doppelganglander said:

    I don’t care whether it’s 20K or 20 million, none of them can vote so who cares. Oh, I know, the liberals! Because, you know, having effete European snobs like us is more important than protecting our national interests, right?

36. #386971
    On July 25th, 2008 at 6:34 pm, DBNinKY said:

    He chose to go to the gym and be worshiped by Germans rather than visit wounded troops. Why? Because he couldn’t use them as campaign props. Then he lies about it.

    Absolutely! Plus what does it matter how many GERMANS show up to hear his “pretty,” yet-haltingly-spoken words? As long as ACORN stays out of the “Fatherland,” none of them can vote for the Devine One.

37. #386984
    On July 25th, 2008 at 6:46 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    doppelganglander said:
    I don’t care whether it’s 20K or 20 million, none of them can vote so who cares.

    Let’s see how many Germans they registered to vote absentee first.

38. #386999
    On July 25th, 2008 at 7:11 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    DBN, if ACORN has a will, it has a way.

    I kid, of course…

39. #387002
    On July 25th, 2008 at 7:13 pm, John Ansell said:

    BM, do they have an ACORN Chapter in Germany?

40. #387003
    On July 25th, 2008 at 7:14 pm, John Ansell said:

    Sorry CO2 producer. I didn’t see yours prior to posting mine.

41. #387015
    On July 25th, 2008 at 7:26 pm, DBNinKY said:

    “…if ACORN has a will, it has a way.”

    I know what you mean! I wouldn’t put it past ACORN to register German citizens and vote them for Obama, claiming they were ex-patrioted Ohians with an accent.

42. #387017
    On July 25th, 2008 at 7:29 pm, DBNinKY said:

    Nutz! expatrioted = expatriated

43. #387027
    On July 25th, 2008 at 7:42 pm, bit_boy said:

    Here’s a look at Obi’s 200,000 Euros.

44. #387059
    On July 25th, 2008 at 8:07 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    No sweat, John. Great minds, as the saying goes. I repeated B_M’s thought somewhat, too, in what he said in the comment before mine. I didn’t see his comment, either.

    Good job on correcting your own spelling error, DBN. You spelled nuts wrong, though. : )

    Let me reiterate that I was kidding about ACORN.

    I think.

45. #387087
    On July 25th, 2008 at 8:31 pm, in_awe said:

    As much as I hate hearing the voice of that bloviating man-pig-bear algore, I think Obama has now moved past him in the “I’m gonna rip my ears off if I have to hear him anyone” race.

    Does anyone else find his hauty, halting delivery annoying? Cheesh, ocassionally string together more than three words at a time before you pause…and lose that affected finger and thumb pincer thing you got goin’. Shades of Billy Jeff and his bent forefinger punching the air for emphasis about every 3rd sentence. And some people think he is an orator for the ages?

46. #387090
    On July 25th, 2008 at 8:40 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    This is hilarious. Look at this picture and tell me you think that crowd is closer to 20K or 200K.

    Looks like roughly 100 across, and even allowing for perspective you can estimate about how back another 100 would be, and take that 10000, and guestimate some more – still looks way under 100,000 to me. But the most important number is 0. That’s right – zero wounded soldiers visited while he worked out at the Ritz-Carlton.

    What’s really hilarious is you waited 5 hours to see him. I’m trying to think of a politician I’d wait five hours to see… oh yeah, this one.

47. #387092
    On July 25th, 2008 at 8:42 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Does anyone else find his hauty, halting delivery annoying?

    The content is just as annoying. “We are the change we have been waiting for.” You are the bus you will be thrown under.

48. #387122
    On July 25th, 2008 at 9:27 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    John Ansell said:
    BM, do they have an ACORN Chapter in Germany?

    Shhhhh, no ones supposed to know.

49. #387137
    On July 25th, 2008 at 10:14 pm, Speakup said:

    Fairness doctrine hell! The truth in advertising law should apply to the news!

50. #387149
    On July 25th, 2008 at 11:05 pm, everett_mansfield said:

    “…Wait. Don’t I get a last request?”

    Here it is: can someone do a photoshop of Obama in a Pee-Wee Herman suit (with red bow tie and white shoes of course)?

    Please?
    Thank you.

51. #387208
    On July 26th, 2008 at 2:05 am, atheling said:

    On July 25th, 2008 at 8:42 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    The content is just as annoying. “We are the change we have been waiting for.” You are the bus you will be thrown under.

    “We are the world, we are the children;
    We are the ones who make a brighter day so let’s start giving…”

    Obama stole from Michael Jackson.

    Now who here didn’t roll their eyes and want to vomit when they heard those lyrics? Blech.

52. #387248
    On July 26th, 2008 at 7:03 am, DBNinKY said:

    Let me reiterate that I was kidding about ACORN.

    I think.

    Well, I was kind of making an extreme point myself but I want to be clear, I am vehemently opposed to ACORN and their open attempts to steal U.S. elections.

    You spelled nuts wrong, though. : )

    My apologies to my cousins and friends who call Ohio home for misspelling Ohioans.Yeah, I know, I can be a harried brain dingbat.

53. #387330
    On July 26th, 2008 at 10:59 am, BOB said:

    I’m sure this is just wishful thinking, but, as I watched parts of the Obama trip and the adoring press coverage I thought, maybe Obama has, “jumped the shark”, with this one.

    If McAmesty did happen to win, is he the turd or the sh*t sandwich?

54. #387524
    On July 26th, 2008 at 4:53 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On July 25th, 2008 at 12:43 pm, ajmontana said:

    and after the speech they all had to report back to work at the cracker factory.

    LOL HA HA HA You said Crakka! HA HA HA!

    (btw… Im offended )

55. #387565
    On July 26th, 2008 at 6:14 pm, oldcollegeguy1980 said:

    Does anyone else find his hauty, halting delivery annoying?

    That is not a speech.

    Spoken in that fashion, it becomes a sermon.

    And negative feedback is not welcomed in the Church Of Obama-mania

56. #387580
    On July 26th, 2008 at 6:55 pm, DannoJyd said:

    OMG! More proof that the liberal media is as broken as is liberalism in America? I’m shocked. Completely shocked I tell ya! [/sarc]

    Liberalism is what will kill McAmnesty’s campaign. That, and his own liberal tendencies.

57. #387679
    On July 26th, 2008 at 11:09 pm, BOB said:

    On July 26th, 2008 at 6:14 pm, oldcollegeguy1980 said:
    Does anyone else find his hauty, halting delivery annoying?
    That is not a speech.

    Spoken in that fashion, it becomes a sermon.

    And negative feedback is not welcomed in the Church Of Obama-mania

    I think he trained himself to talk in the fashion of ‘Rev. Wright lite”. It makes BS sound real and limits the desire of the listeners to question what is being said. Common with preachers.

58. #388085
    On July 27th, 2008 at 11:13 pm, erikwhittington said:

    liars!

59. #388869
    On July 28th, 2008 at 5:21 pm, Chief RZ said:

    I saw a comment about this story attributed to Ann Coulter. The person immediately attacked Ann, the messenger instead of addressing the question of numbers. Typical liberal.