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1. #1
   On July 25th, 2008 at 11:50 am, sonofdy said:

   Islam, the religon of love and pieces peace strikes again.

2. #2
   On July 25th, 2008 at 11:52 am, abstractmind said:

   i guess maybe i’m reading this wrong..were the islamic people attacked, or did the attacking?

   sorry, just not enough coffee right now

3. #3
   On July 25th, 2008 at 11:54 am, walterc said:

   So this is more muslim on muslim violence?

   When they aren’t trying to kill infadels they are killing each other. What a screwed up religion/political system.

   ROPMA

4. #4
   On July 25th, 2008 at 11:57 am, see-dubya said:

   abstract–it looks like Chechen muslims were attacking Kurdish muslims–but it’s still not certain.

5. #5
   On July 25th, 2008 at 12:04 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

   So if a bunch of club-wielding, brownshirt, bullyboys ~did~ break into such a place and knock a few heads, this would be a problem because….?

6. #6
   On July 25th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, abstractmind said:

   so it was muslim on muslim action?

   but thanks dub, was just making sure i’d read it right.

7. #7
   On July 25th, 2008 at 12:16 pm, Blind_Mule said:

   Watch out quoting the Associated Richards it could cost you a bundle.

   Muslims beating each other up? Is that not against the Quran to hurt or kill other Muslims? What a tolerant Religion.

8. #8
   On July 25th, 2008 at 12:26 pm, ajmontana said:

   I’m surprised the AP didnt spin it around and say the attackers were just lost and really looking for Germany for a certain speech about to occur.

9. #9
   On July 25th, 2008 at 12:27 pm, see-dubya said:

   this would be a problem because….?

   Oh, I dunno–resurgent Naziism and white supremacy? Violence against innocent refugees?

   I’d have a problem with that, yeah.

   That said, the media that dithers on this Muslim-on-muslim violence would be covering the story a little bit differently if it were skinheads…

   Like non-stop headlines blaring NAZIS ATTACK MUSLIMS.

10. #10
    On July 25th, 2008 at 12:37 pm, abstractmind said:

    I was being a bit sarcastic earlier, but dub makes a good point. people committing violence on someone else for reasons such as presented here makes it a bit problematic.

11. #11
    On July 25th, 2008 at 12:43 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Whatever happened to Who, What, Where, When, and Why of journalism? MSM is nothing but a bunch of trotter horses, because they always have the blinders on.

12. #12
    On July 25th, 2008 at 12:45 pm, John Ansell said:

    Hey See Dubya, and everybody else: YOu do not want to miss interview Al Rantel will re-air this (I’m really at a lost for words) Just listen to it at 11 West coast time. If there is not a tear in your eye and anger in your heart after listenig to the interview, You are not human. It’s an interview of the mother who had her husband and two boys murdered be the illegal invader in San Fran. Toward the end of the interview, Jamiel Shaw Sr. was so moved that he called in and they met over the air for the first time to discuss how they feel losing their loved ones to illegal invaders that should not be in this country but even further, that should not be protected by sactuary policies.

    I promise, you will want to listen to this interview.

13. #13
    On July 25th, 2008 at 12:52 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    Once the Islamists kill all of the Infidels, then they’ll start on the least Islamic and work their way up.

14. #14
    On July 25th, 2008 at 1:21 pm, chapoutier said:

    abstract–it looks like Chechen muslims were attacking Kurdish muslims–but it’s still not certain.

    In other words, this had zero to do with their religion, and was likely an ethnic spat?

    When fans of Manchester U start going after fans of Arsenal, do we call that Christian on Christian violence?

15. #15
    On July 25th, 2008 at 1:29 pm, RetFireman said:

    THing is, even if it was absolutely 100% proven that the attackers were Muslim, there is no way it would be reproted as such. Otherwise, people would have yet one more example of the childish, immature way in which Muslims act when it comes to such things. Even now, after how long of riots and “uprisings” of the Muslim population in France, the media STILL refuses to report that it is the Muslim “youth” that is carrying out such destruction.

    You cannot trust the media to report on what Islamists are doing. They have some unwritten rule to protect them from the proper speculation. God forbid they be presented as anything else other than “The Religion of Peace”.

16. #16
    On July 25th, 2008 at 1:43 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    yet one more example of the childish, immature way in which Muslims act when it comes to such things. Even now, after how long of riots and “uprisings” of the Muslim population in France, the media STILL refuses to report that it is the Muslim “youth” that is carrying out such destruction.

    Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
    Half-devil and half-child.

    * Not sure that “caught” is exactly the right word, but otherwise…

17. #17
    On July 25th, 2008 at 2:07 pm, IndependentTom said:

    Sorry to appear dense but I’m not sure I understand. Was this in fact just a dispute between two muslim factions at the center or did the attacking group come from outside the center?

    I’ll try drinking more coffee and re-reading….

18. #18
    On July 25th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, Papa Louie said:

    On July 25th, 2008 at 1:21 pm, chapoutier said:

    In other words, this had zero to do with their religion, and was likely an ethnic spat?

    By your logic the conflict in Northern Ireland between Protestants and Catholics was an “ethnic spat” and had “zero” to do with religion because both groups are Christian. And the conflict between Sunni and Shia in Iraq has nothing at all to do with religion because they are both muslim, right? Or you could actually read the article:

    Reports in local media suggest Chechens had been involved in long-running disagreements with other Muslims at the centre over religious practices.

19. #19
    On July 25th, 2008 at 2:54 pm, Surveyor said:

    RetFireman said:

    You cannot trust the media to report on what Islamists are doing. They have some unwritten rule to protect them from the proper speculation. God forbid they be presented as anything else other than “The Religion of Peace”.

    I think the media are flat-out scared to death of the peace-loving muslims. Can anyone say Theo van Gogh?

20. #20
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:04 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    Can anyone say Theo van Gogh?

    Well, we ~could~ say it. But it is more prudent to confine oneself to writing it.

    To say it, one must decide whether to say it like a clueless American, a pretentious, wannabe Frenchie, or, most authentically, like a Dutchman, which NObody will get.

    Yep…saying this name in perilous. [grin]

21. #21
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:28 pm, Surveyor said:

    Not sure what you mean Ignatius….but what I’m saying is the man was killed for exposing some of what muslim faith is all about. Even the woman (a liberal) dutch politician Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who collaborated with Gogh on the film, has quote:
    “been under police protection since the film was aired. She has also received death threats and has renounced the Islamic faith”

    I think this kind of incident plays on the minds of all media when reporting on muslims around the world.

22. #22
    On July 25th, 2008 at 3:38 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    I understand your serious point, Surveyor, and I completely agree with you.

    I was just mocking fastidious and pretentious sophisticates who do not pronounce the name “van Gogh” in the same way that most of us do. I apologize if I distracted from your serious point. (I stand in proud solidarity with “clueless Americans.”)

23. #23
    On July 25th, 2008 at 9:42 pm, simcoe said:

    Peaceful?
    Islam?

    Come on people, after all this time and all the world events since 9/11, or even the Clinton years, you still haven’t checked it out for yourselves. This is a serious contradiction in terms. According to the Koran there are only Muslims and those with whom Muslims are at war.

    Good grief, people!!

24. #24
    On July 25th, 2008 at 10:12 pm, simcoe said:

    Re: The statement above.

    To paraphrase a line from the movie, The Sting:

    All ya got to do is reeead!

25. #25
    On July 26th, 2008 at 1:07 am, RetFireman said:

    There are over 11,000 attempts by Islamists since 9-11-01 to prove just how “Peaceful” they are. After all…corpses and graveyards are amongst the most peaceful things there is.

26. #26
    On July 26th, 2008 at 2:04 pm, conservoman said:

    Anything interesting about that “group of men” AP? Just normal people in Norway were they…?

    Although I guess it’d be politically incorrect to label them as anything unless they were white people.

27. #27
    On July 27th, 2008 at 5:00 am, RetFireman said:

    And then today, in India, more of those fun loving, Kumbaya singing peaceful Islamists decided to, once again, show the world just how peaceful they are, by blowing up several bombs in public areas, timed minutes apart in a “cascading” effect of death and mayhem and smoke and fire.

    But I am sure, had Islamic terrorist groups not taken the blame themselves, it would hav esimply been “Unknown men” that had committed the atrocities on their fellow man…or shold I say…INFIDELS.