Hey, how’s all that Hispandering working out for McCain?
McCain was quick to remind conservatives that former Mexican government employee and open-borders advocate Juan Hernandez wasn’t his employee, but rather an unpaid campaign volunteer.
Well, it looks like the McCain campaign is really getting their money’s worth from him:
Democrat Barack Obama has opened a big lead among Hispanic voters, winning support from the vast majority of those who had voted for rival Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Democratic primaries, according to a poll released Thursday.
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Perhaps John McCain needs to start pandering to his base more and not worry so much about other groups. There is a lot of people out there that does not want the Obamessiah to be president for a myriad of reasons. Perhaps his outreach should be to those groups. Forget what the MSM thinks, go conservative!
Juan Hernandez is one of the only people that makes me change the channel immediately when I see him.
Juan McAmnesty is sticking true to form by keeping him.
Yep, McCain could trade his 23% hispanic vote for millions of conservative votes, (even if they were unenthusiastic ones), if he’d ditch the slick one Juan and forget his first priorty if elected is amnesty, but he won’t.
Do you think if McCain did a “Rock Star” Tour of Mexico and other Latin American Countries that all the MSN anchors and the whole press gaggle would come along?
“Er… no thanks Mac, we’re afraid to drink the water”
I hate Juan McAmnesty!!!! Hurr!!!!
It looks like the wise_man has finally seen the light!
Do what 73% of AMERICANS WANT, fire the hernandez liar and ENFORCE THE LAWS.
You will gain votes. Period.
Oh, absolutely. Because it doesn’t matter if Obama is the president. It’s more important that we punish McShamnesty!!!
CW: In his Denver speech yesterday at the 2008 American GI Forum, McCain laid the Hispandering on THICK, topping it off with a lengthy story of the actions of a Hispanic Medal of Honor winner from the Vietnam war. Some excerpts:
“Let me close by expressing my gratitude for the contributions Hispanic-Americans have made to the security of the country I have served all my adult life.”
“When you take the solemn stroll along that wall of black granite on the national Mall, it is hard not to notice the many names such as Rodriguez, Hernandez, and Lopez that so sadly adorn it.”
“As a private citizen or as President, I will never, never do anything to dishonor our obligations to them and their families.”
“Roy Benavidez was the son of a Texas sharecropper, a seventh grade dropout who suffered the humiliation of being constantly taunted as a ‘dumb Mexican.’”
“I wouldn’t want to live in a country that didn’t recognize how much we needed such a good man. [...] I prefer to live in a hopeful country. I prefer to live in Roy Benavidez’ America.”
I don’t care if he or anyone else is Hispanic, black, Asian, white, or albino. And race shouldn’t be the basis for deporting people or denying them the rights given to US citizens. If you’re an illegal alien, you shouldn’t be here. Why McCain even mentions Benavidez’s race is beyond me. It leaves me with a sour taste.
Rob, Wiseman…McCain will have to make a mid-course adjustment on Immigration when he discovers his VP pick only brings in a few votes-or perhaps no bounce at all..this is where I predict Juan Hernandez will be asked to pack his bags…I figure by mid-September.
Relax, Gentlemen..get some sun
Coolness, the putz isn’t an employee, so he does’t even have to be fired. He could just be told to go away. If that doesn’t work, then give the “volunteer” a mission. McCain should give him an unending quest, something like finding 5 un-corrupted Mexican poloticians.
I guess even Hispanics recognize Juan Hernandez for the sleazebag that he is.
(hmm, maybe I should have used a ’sarcasm’ note at the end of my comment.) I thought is was sufficiently Hurrr!!!!able.
Oh, he’s an absolute sleazebag, nyc123me! You’ve got that right!!!! – and Obama is so much better, Hurr!!!!
(*wink*)
I recently watched a movie called Confessions of a Nazi Spy, Edward G Robinson. All about the late 30’s and the rise of the German American bund, in the beginning the FBI knew nothing about them, but as they proceeded they began to realize how dangerous they were. They knew that most German Americans were against the bund but that the extremists were like a cancer on the rest, their ideology, of German unity no matter the location, spreading. Sounded a lot like what we have been hearing coming from Mexico lately. Anyway, you could substitute any one of these leftist or subversive groups we see today, confessions of a, la raza member, liberal fascist, islamist jihadist, they would all work instead of nazi spy. I recommend it highly every American should watch it. It’s actually shocking to watch a movie that in it has everything we are worried about today yet it was made 70 years ago and everyone seems to have forgotten the lessons learned. There’s a part in it where Robinson is interrogating a bundster, the bundster says I am an American but I also support our fuehrer. E.G. says, isn’t that a bit of a contradiction and the guy replies, you are not a German you wouldn’t understand. At which point E.G. replies, you’re right, I don’t understand. Now before anyone starts accusing me of comparing the Nazis with Latinos I’m not, the overall fundamentals of the movie are relevant. As E.G. sez in the movie, it’s a new kind of war, but its still war.
love2rumba, I hope you are right.
Here’s to the GoP party leadership coming to their senses and a brokered convention.
It so easy for a community, a nation to become Balkanized, fragmented. We see it around the world. Even here. Look at Los Angeles. But that’s not our model. We’re supposed to all be Americans. No Shia v Sunni, Hutu v Tutsi, Christian v Muslim, white v black, Protestant v Catholic, one side of the street v the other side of the street. Everyone who separates into their own group identity literally wants to tear the country apart, to cleave it into different groups. Why is McCain encouraging this in his Denver speech yesterday. He’s adding to the problem.
“brokered convention?”
So this is what this is all about? All these months on this site?
Heck, I thought you had turned into a conservative for a minute there. (not really).
Because their movements toward self-improvement in their own countries has been negligible for the last several hundred years, and because they have always looked at America as a giant pot of social freebies, these people have come to America, refusing to assimilate, but with hands stretched out and mouths hanging wide open for the freebies that bubble over the pots brim.
They apparently now believe that the pot of the hispandering Obamessiah will be shallower and therefore afford more bubble-over than the pot of hispandering Juan McAmnesty. To bad for Juan and much to bad for the citizenship of our once great nation.
Speaking of citizens isn’t voting in a national election supposed to be an honor and privilege held only for the citizens of the United States of America?
Heh, I thought you might actually support the republican who won the republican primary from all of the other candidates because of the republican voters choosing him and not the other candidates – and do your part to get the republican elected and not stand back and do nothing but b*tch ans whine about McCain while millions of democrats plan to vote for Obama and help to put him into the whitehouse.(not really).
wiseman trying a new psychology? I must admit, it’s better than the usual ranting and name calling to anyone that is not a McCainite.
Ha, ha, People who say “McInsane” and “McShamnesty” are now all offended by “name calling.”
Now that is funny,
unWise_man, enough with your overzealous comments please – my comment was about Hernandez, not about Obama, so stop trying to turn it into something that it isn’t.
Shocka!
McCain is clueless.
Hey, let’s ask Mr. Hernandez and his boss what they thinks of this piece from John Wayne…
wise_guy, the name calling is obviously a 2 way street.
You didn’t fool me for a minute, with your change in attitude about McShame…a different tone would be nice tho…you know the old saying, catch more bees with honey …you might wanted to try it.
Like this form of name calling, rightisright?
Is this what you are talking about?
Wise_guy? And more mocking of my name, while you are upset about name calling.
Just – too – funny.
That moniker may be ill-chosen.
Do you really think that all the illegal illiterates are voting D because they prefer it to the R platform?
I think not.
Maybe you might want to consider holding back some of your anger for Obama. You know, the democrat. And less for fellow conservatives who don’t want to see America harmed by Obama, and actually want the republican to win. Unlike you people.
Its my last name, simcoe.
And I am regretting choosing it, because I should have chosen something more like “don’t do as democrats do” because more of you people here need to understand that what you are doing is benefiting the democrat candidate.
Why is it “my part” to get the “republican” elected?
Unlike the GOP the Democrats actually gave their members a candidate who reflects their views.
If McMoron ever relects my views, or even pretends to give a damn about what they are, I might consider voting for him.
wise_man (there, I said it right, please stop crying).. I will certainly concede that Obama is worse than McCain for the POTUS spot, however that does not necessarily mean McCain would make a good POTUS by default – that is where most of us differ in opinion from you. We choose to put the United States of America before the Republican Party.
I notice that these so-called conservatives don’t seem worried about the harm that McCain will cause. Why is that? Could it be because they are really pro-war liberals and not conservatives at all?
As has been said many times before: With all the millions and millions of people who live (legally, I might add) in the US, these two lamers were the best we could come up with?
Oh man! It makes my head (or should I say ‘cabeza’) hurt.
You’re smart enough to figure that out on your own.
Too funny.
No, witless, I’m not. Explain why it is “my part” as a conservative to help your lefty candidate get elected just because he has the letter R after his name.
Then you might want to consider supporting the republican nominee, who is running against the democrat nominee, who is the most liberal senator in 2007. Just a thought.
Whats your real last name, flenser?
We’d be better off picking the president by random lottery of all the (legal) Americans. Same with the courts and Congress.
Why would I vote for someone I believe would be bad for the United States? That’s lunacy.
Why? It’s not like the “republican nominee” is a conservative, or even pretends to be one. In fact he’s spent his career kissing liberals butts while treating conservatives like dirt.
Given those facts, why should conservatives support him? Let him get his votes from the Hispanics since he’s got such a crush on them.
Some of us support candidates who hold views similar to ours. We do not support candidates who’s views are distinctly different. Like Freedom of Speech, not limits on free political speech, like the power of the executive to nominate federal judges, not gangs of maverick senators who think they hold the power, like lower taxes, like secure borders, like not rewarding criminals with citizenship. The list goes on.
It must be really hard for some people to understand that when both political parties stand for that same different view, neither political party wins the support of those who think differently. Too bad.
That’s a good point. However, sometimes the best way to teach a fool (the Dems) a lesson is to let them go through with their fantasy. Yes, it will hurt all concerned but this once great nation will survive and go on. We must work to try to get back on track with conservatism.
I’m still waiting for McCain to “reach out” to me as a Conservative with something other than a punch to the face.
I will also point out that I don’t OWE McCain anything – it’s his job as a candidate to EARN my vote!!
No kidding!.. Joe Liberalman, Lindsay Grahamnisty, Ted Kennedy… these are McAmnesty’s homies. I can’t stand them either…
McAmnesty loves to reach around the isle, except we are the ones getting screwed.
Oh, it’s that lie again.
So why is Ed Morrissey lying to you, flesner?
So you support the democrats.
And you want them to win, and then hurt America by having a liberal president who will work with the liberals in the house and senate.
Will you just sit back as Obama is elected, or will you vote for him and help this vision of yours come to pass?
The fact that you think Ed Morrissey is an authoritative voice on conservatism just reinforces my belief that you are a refugee from the Democratic Party.
Yes, and Amnesty for illegal aliens, the unConstitutional Gang-bang of 14, McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy – all of those things were just the dictionary definition of Conservative, huh, wise_man?
America is going to be hurt if either McCain or Obama is elected. Both of these men are further left than anybody since LBJ. If you really want to help America, which I’m starting to doubt, you’d join us in dumping McMoron.
Then why did Michelle Malkin hire Ed Morrissey, this non-”authoritative voice on conservatism” to work at hotair?
And is the American Conservative Union, who tracks the votes of every member in the senate and house, are they also tools of the democrats, flesner?
Once again this has turned into a me! me! me! thread for wise_man.
We know what you are wise_man, now go away.
If you look at his voting record, it scores as a “B”, JHSII. Again, For those who see no difference between McCain and the two Democrats, this serves as a reminder that while McCain drifts to the middle on some issues, a large chasm exists between the nominees that will face off in November.
McCain is not the evil man so many of you paint him out to be.
I am attempting to talk some sense into people like you, nyc123me.
On July 26th, 2008 at 1:18 pm, flenser, refuge or agent?
She explained that when she brought him on board. Don’t you read the site?
Yes, he is. And when did you Dems start caring about what the ACU says? Who did you vote for in 2000?
There will never be sense in voting for a person who does not represent what I believe is good for the United States over another just because one is marginally better than the other. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Every thread around here has the witless “wise_man” trolling on it.
thats for sure, especially when anyone dares say anything bad about the second hispanic candidate for el presidente (Jorge Arbusto was first)
have you noticed that only hispanics are God’s children???
does that make the rest of spawns of SATAN???
I don’t think McAmnesty is evil, he just supports the continued invasion of our country by evil people. I would call him foolish, old, misguided and insulated by all his wealth and position from the Mexicans that have moved into my community.
There are not old cars on the lawns of the homes near McAmnesty’s house. He doesn’t have to worry about the loooong lines in the emergency wards should someone in his family need help. There aren’t push one for English buttons in his life… and I sure as hell bet there isn’t any gang tagging on his gated mansion’s walls.
Refugee. He’s a pro-war liberal, as about thirty percent of the commenters here are.
Hey, if I was a pro-war liberal I’d be doing what these guys are doing – trying to persuade conservatives to vote for McCain.
Question is Johnny is, where they Illegal aliens?
I’m not a Republican, I’m a Conservitive.
So, which is it are you a Republican or a Conservitive, because at this point I see a difference between the two.
should be: is were they
Like any self-respecting liberal, McCain likes non-whites a lot more than whites.
So, wise_man, you believe that Amnesty for illegal aliens, the unConstitutional Gang-bang of 14, McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy are all Conservative ideals.
Whew. At least now we know where you stand.
yeah he is, he’s actually worse than Obama. He claims to be a ‘conservative’ when the truth is he’s a LIBERAL and he will discredit conservatism for a generation if he is elected.
Mccain, not Obama, sponsored cap and trade, AMNESTY Mccain Feingold.
Obama hasn’t done anything, but mccain has already been a blight upon this country, and done it great harm. probably as much as his good buddy, Uncle Keg.
and anyone who thinks mccain is going to appoint conservative judges, like Alito, who would overturn mccain-feingold is smoking funny things as Kid rock would say….
need to use preview:
conservative
I’ve noticed that white liberals are the real racists, condescending, arrogant, don’t think anyone of any color can do anything without them around to guide them….its like a BWANA complex…
Mccain as the wise and beneficient ranch owner, taking care of his serfs-of-color…..
I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out that Hernandez is actually working for the other side: that disasterous shrine photo-op had to be his idea and he certainly would have known how offensive it would be perceived. In any event, as if we ever had any doubt, there’s no fool like an old fool.
Hasta la vista, Mr. McCain. Looks like Obama’s world tour gamble has paid off with a solid (6%) bounce. After the democrat convention, it will likely be all over.
No, he is just expressing his support for the candidate he supports. And since we’re talking about the candidate he supports (scroll up to see the blog post topic) I’d say it’s a mighty logical place to do so.
Though I expect it will be a moot point if McCain keeps running a passive tradional “respectful” campaign and conitnues to focus his team, time and money kissing up to voting blocs, like ACORNs illegal “voters”, that are already in Obama’s pocket.
The only difference between McCain and Obama is that McCain is more eager to use American blood and money to fight Israel’s wars for them. Owned by AIPAC.
He’s nagging everybody else to death. Although for a change he’s not demanding that everybody else be banned.
thats his next post…along with accusing everyone who dares disagree with Juan to be a troll
and soon his alter ego carbon_foot_in_mouth will be along….
McCain has no chance to win if he doesn’t abandon his hispanic antics and return to the conservative base. War heros can be idiots too, and McCain is proving this in spades (hope that’s not racist), or at least his advisors are.
Sorry Nuss, but like black holes in space, spades are also black in color, therefore you must be racist, accordingly to a certain judge. Unless of course you are black yourself, in which case you are free to make as many racist comments as you please, including using the term ‘white hole’, which of course is not a scientific term, but is distinctly a racial epithet.
almost forgot.. /sarc
starlightwoman said (#1):
He would not be elected if he did that. Pander to the base, that’s our current President with his 30% approval and 60% disapproval rating. People are tired of budget deficits, corruption, incompetence, gay bating, immigrant bating, global warming denial, … . If McCain promises more of that, the voters will reject him.
If you don’t ask, then you don’t have a chance of getting what you want. McCain wants to be president, he needs to create a generalization about himself that will be appealing to that voting bloc.
At a maximum, he’ll get the votes he wants. At a minimum, those who stay home and don’t vote won’t worry about having put him into office by their inaction. (Check out Tracy Morgan on 30 Rock)
hmmm.. wise_man leaves and lgm arrives. Coincidence?
I’M not tired of those things… I am against the first three could care less about the fourth and support the rest.
Rob, I second that…
lgm, “global warming denial” ? You need to keep up with the talking points… since the planet is actually cooling, the term “global warming” has been replaced with “climate change”.
Moon bating again huh lgm? It’s spelled, baiting, idiot. Although I’m surprised you didn’t spell it bateing.
They would not be elected if they were honest. Pander to the base, that’s our current Congress with their 9% approval and 91% disapproval rating. People are tired of budget deficits, corruption, incompetence, hetero bating, citizen bating, global warming fraud denial, … . If the democrats promise more of that, the voters will reject them.
/edited for factual correctness
McCan’t is a joke. Nothing is going to stop Nobama. Our only Conservative Hope is that Nobama will be as ineffective a president as he was a US and State Senator. Four or five years and then he’s out. By then a true Conservative like Bobby Jindal can raise to the top and run as a Conservative, perhaps even as a Republican, if the party is still around by then.
McCain stopped pandering to the conservative base as soon as the primaries were over. He obviously thinks that conservatives have no other choice but him in this election and so he spends all of his efforts “moving to the center” and even going “past the center” like Arnold recommended. Apparently, this tactic is not a new one for Republican candidates. I found a quote from 1970 that makes this quite clear:
As old as I am, I had no idea this has been going on in the Republican Party since before 1970. Reagan was the only one who didn’t go out of his way to pander to the left, and he won in a landslide. When are Republicans going to learn their lesson?
The time to learn from the past was before we picked a nominee. Now, unless a conservative third party candidate can actually get some traction, I can’t see any other way but to vote for McCain. But if he wins, the sad thing is, all the pundits will claim that his pandering to the left won it for him. McCain will then become a model for the next election. /groan
SO DON’T VOTE FOR HIM!
Here’s the thing McCain could woo many blue collar conservative democrats in the swing states especially my area in the midwest with a tough on border security stand and anti-illegal immigration.Just look at Novaks column today in townhall McCain has a event in a 2500 seat venue in PA. and draws 600 while anti-illegal alien fighter Lou Barleta from Hazelton PA. is currently running ahead in his district challenging the incumbent democrat.Novak points this is the only place this is happening.
McCain is never going to out pander Obama for the Hispanic vote and could pick up valuable border security folks like working class democrats etc if his campaign wasn’t so inept.Keeping bascially the same position on illegal immigration as Obama many border security people and conservatives will sit out and conservative democrats will look at other issues.The 2006 fresman democrats in congress were made up of members who are strong against illegal immigration and have high ratings from numberusa.So go ahead McCain campaign keep chasing the Hispanic vote and see waht percentage you end up with and where it gets you!
Obama thanks you for your continued work for his campaign, McCain.
No, he is just expressing his support for the candidate he supports.
Then you should really just skip reading any posts where McCain is brought up if it’s too much for you to deal with or if you feel unable to dish it right back.
As for me, I’d get mighty bored real quick with one person writing “yada, yada yada” and nothing but dittos following it as a steady diet. I ain’t wild about McCain, but I can emotionally handle the fact that some people support him. No skin offa my schnoze.
But if someone cannot handle it, I’d recommend applying the old adage about a hot kitchen. (Or to just not respond at all, that ends things pretty fast.)
I find it humorous to listen to all of the libs at work whining & lamenting about how terrible the world is going to be after McCain is elected… oh, they all have their theories from election fraud to down right racism. (America is a mean place after all) But after all is said THEY don’t believe that Obama has a chance & that the (get this) right wing media is ignoring McCain to focus on scrutinizing Obama’s faults…
Oh, it is sooo bizarre!
Obviously, I’m an Obama supporter, so I don’t really have a stake in this McCain debate. But I have a serious, genuine question — and I’m asking out of real curiosity — do conservatives here who don’t support McCain (and there seem to be a lot of them) do so almost solely because of his immigration stance? I mean, as someone with diametrically opposed political views, I see McCain as having gotten far more conservative in recent years (granted — in his bid for the presidency, but that’s a given). His takes on abortion, on torture, on the war…So, I’m really wondering — and I’m asking because I genuinely would like to hear from the anti-McCain conservatives here — what are the other conservative stances you think he lacks?
NYK, well there was McCain/Fiengold…
McCain may be a centrist and even left of center on some issues, but Obama is far left. Obama wants to stop work on all new weapon systems, not just the missle defense system, but the development of ALL new weapons. He also plans to start a new Global War on Poverty that will bankrupt the country. At the same time, he likes higher gas prices. He just wishes that oil prices had risen more slowly so the
frogtaxpayer doesn’t jump out of the pot too soon.These are just a few of the differences between Obama and McCain that make the choice clear. It comes down to a choice of potentially destroying the Republican Party or potentially destroying the country. I really hate to sound like wise_man here, but I will risk the former before I risk the latter. Which choice do you prefer?
If Juan Hernandez is just a volunteer then it shouldn’t be such a big deal to let him go.
Question is, who’s support is more important?
This whole “Juan Hernandez” straw man is the lamest excuse for a controversy ever. Because this nobody has volunteered for the McCain campaign it somehow signifies that he has any say in anything is just beyond stupid. What’s next? McCain staff gets Taco Bell for lunch! Juan Hernandez indoctrinating by chalupa!
Of course that is all that it is, an excuse to vent against McCain instead of advocating for steps that could help solve the problem. This blog won’t be happy until YOU have an Obama presidency.
Obama on enforcement? From his pandering to europe: “The walls between old allies on either side of the Atlantic cannot stand. The walls between the countries with the most and those with the least cannot stand. The walls between races and tribes; natives and immigrants; Christian and Muslim and Jew cannot stand. These now are the walls we must tear down.”
Do you think someone who is so deeply addicted to this happy horse sh*t is going to prevent any immigrants coming here not just from Mexico but from all over the planet? This idiots whole view is every human has a right to take a bite out of this country, indeed, if they can’t make it here we should be shipping our wealth oversees.
Juan Hernandez is a nobody. He is being cynically used to help a REAL open borders advocate, Barack Obama to break off the bone heads who wont allow themselves to see the breathtakingly obvious.
On July 26th, 2008 at 1:09 pm, simcoe said:
If you give a monkey a machine gun who ends up getting taught the lesson? The monkey or you?
The idea that we should let the democrats wreck the country in order to say “I told you so” is an incredibly bad one. The country cannot survive and prosper with half of its citizens working for collapse at any given time to pin it on the other half. That is exactly what THEY have done during the Bush administration. So yes, lets not ““don’t do as democrats do””… Lets win this thing and actually demand that our government does a good job.