Hey, how’s all that Hispandering working out for McCain?
McCain was quick to remind conservatives that former Mexican government employee and open-borders advocate Juan Hernandez wasn’t his employee, but rather an unpaid campaign volunteer.
Well, it looks like the McCain campaign is really getting their money’s worth from him:
Democrat Barack Obama has opened a big lead among Hispanic voters, winning support from the vast majority of those who had voted for rival Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Democratic primaries, according to a poll released Thursday.
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I’m an immigrant from the Netherlands.
The assigning of a commonality between immigrants and illegal immigrants troubles me deeply. These two groups of people went through entirely different methods to get to their goals.
Whenever the term “immigrant” is used to identify “illegal immigrants”, I cringe. It pisses me off.
I’m an American citizen.
Whenever the two are blurred, the tactic is clear… someone is trying to legitimize those who aren’t. Period. McCain does just that far too often and its the biggest complaint I have of John McCain and his excuse man, Juan Hernandez.
On July 26th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, Paul-Cincy said:
Gee, so we shouldn’t allow Hispanics to win the Medal of Honor… Something else from his speech:
If Senator Obama had prevailed, American forces would have had to retreat under fire. The Iraqi Army would have collapsed. Civilian casualties would have increased dramatically. Al Qaeda would have killed the Sunni sheikhs who had begun to cooperate with us, and the “Sunni Awakening” would have been strangled at birth. Al Qaeda fighters would have safe havens, from where they could train Iraqis and foreigners, and turn Iraq into a base for launching attacks on Americans elsewhere. Civil war, genocide and wider conflict would have been likely.
Above all, America would have been humiliated and weakened. Our military, strained by years of sacrifice, would have suffered a demoralizing defeat. Our enemies around the globe would have been emboldened. …
Senator Obama told the American people what he thought you wanted to hear. I told you the truth.
Fortunately, Senator Obama failed, not our military. We rejected the audacity of hopelessness, and we were right. Violence in Iraq fell to such low levels for such a long time that Senator Obama, detecting the success he never believed possible, falsely claimed that he had always predicted it. … In Iraq, we are no longer on the doorstep of defeat, but on the road to victory.
Senator Obama said this week that even knowing what he knows today that he still would have opposed the surge. In retrospect, given the opportunity to choose between failure and success, he chooses failure. I cannot conceive of a Commander in Chief making that choice.
-John McCain
… and this man is America’s hero?
No, if they are illegal or anchor babies they should be tossed right over the border.
McAmnesty will lie and pander all he can to get the Mexican vote.. screw him. I will vote for his give-America- to-Mexico butt, but I sure hope that he picks a conservative VP that gets a chance to straighten things out…
Dutchcedar, I agree 110%. I dare say everyone here holds a very definite distiction between immigrants and illegals aliens. In fact, in my book, the term ‘immigrant’ by itself should be taken out of the equation; either you’re an American citizen (or in the process of becoming one legally), or you’re here illegally*, hence the term ‘illegal immigrant/alien’ – it is not a racist term, no matter how much the left (or that supremest group ‘La Raza’) try to make it so. There’s nothing racist about it, and I wish the media and the left would stop trying to blur it with the term immigrant alone. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING AT ALL.
*or you’re here on a student/workers/visitors visa, which is not illegal.
Welcome Dutch, and well said.
I can’t wait for my next trip to Amsterdam and visit the Rijks Museum again. It’s a real treasure.
On this one McCain hit the nail exactly on the head! Obama’s speeches are in the news 24/7, but I didn’t even know about McCain’s speech. It makes me wonder why Michelle and See-Dubya don’t blog about McCain on those rare occasions when he gets something right.
I am 50 yrs old. I met a “Hispanic” for the first time in my Jr. year of high school. (And this is NYC mind you)
So in 35 years we have gone from a token Latino here & there to a voting block so big that presidential candidates are pandering to it… I was not a math major, but I can count. This country needs to REVERSE the immigration trend NOW or cease to exist in 35 years…
just doing the math…
“When you take the solemn stroll along that wall of black granite on the national Mall, it is hard not to notice the many names such as Rodriguez, Hernandez, and Lopez that so sadly adorn it.”
Those sound like Filipino names to me…no offense to those that died to me and my family, but how he pander to a spanish sounding name, without knowing the person?
On July 26th, 2008 at 4:18 pm, Rob said:
Aaaah yes; “baby tossing”… the latest policy position that Rob insists on in order to come in off his ledge.
I don’t think you are in a position to be taking pot shots at someone who has won the Medal of Honor, Rob. You are cordially invited to go out and earn one but there is a psychological evaluation in order to serve in the military… Might cause you some problems.
You know what, maybe we should deport you. Where is the border to Bizarro World?
‘baby-tossing’ ..rofl.. that comes just after ‘dwarf tossing’, right?
Better build that border fence low enough, some of these fellows could throw your back out trying to get them over.
When is Shoeless John going to balance his staff by hiring someone from Aryan Nation? La Raza doesn’t speak for Hispanics any more than Aryan Nation speaks for white people but that doesn’t seem to be a requirement for these liberals. What is wrong with our entrenched elected criminal class anyway?
I see Bill is still here attacking anyone who hasn’t drank the McCain Kool-Aid.
He still hasn’t answered the question of how attacking Conservatives is supposed to get them to support McCain.
McChump is an open borders piece of $hit, when he loses, he’ll be getting just what his lying a$$ deserves.
their are two.
one near lombard street and another near Hollywood and vine.
Wasn’t going to do this……..but…
Yeh for Cindy McCain……Woman of Honor…..
Based on his stands with LR and etc. and etc. and etc.
Nay for L_O_T_E….
I don’t find that so odd since McCain himself is clueless about the very same thing.
I’m still impressed at how the GOP insiders managed to place McAmnesty on the ballot. Only the GOP could get us the only candidate stupid enough to cast off the conservative base. and liberal enough to lose to the ObamaMessiah.
Conservatives Lost In The Wilderness
McCain himself isn’t the fastest on the draw, but he’s got at least one person on his team who has some idea how to campaign:
McCain ad takes on Obama for not visiting wounded. I undertand it’s to air in just the Denver area tonight during Sat Nite Live, with the internet and Sunday talk shows/cable news looking for red meat he doesn’t need to make a national ad buy to get the message out.
The ad at YouTube -
TROOPS
Sweet justice. When McCain loses in a 40-state landslide, maybe the GOP will debrand themselves from McCain’s image.
What is the difference? Both are qually harmful to national security.
You will never see it on televsion but there are millions of spanish surnamed Americans more than a little upset with John McCain’s Amnesty. We often do not show up in the polls as we do not identify as Hispanic, LaRaza, or Mexican although our families may have from from there at various times. We are “the Hispanic” you might have heard about that voted 63% for English only and a similair margin to deny state benefits to illegals.
While we identify as American LaRaza and friends refer to us as coconuts. That suits me just fine, a coconut is one tough nut.
Juan Hernandez is a puta y tonto. Not there is anything wrong with that.
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Allah be Praised
Allie OOP OOP 2
Good link Danno, Ft. Hard Knox. As I’ve said in the past, Bob Dole ran a stronger race than Sen. Amnesty.
Several months ago Michelle ran a poll after one of the GOP debates, I still stand by my choice, I’d rather be waterboarded than vote for McCain.
this was entirely predictable from the votes he gets at home. Hispanics are not interested in American values anymore. Thanks to the media Mexicans hate America and come here to use us. They view whites and blacks as idiots because we portrayed that way on both Mexican and American TV, 24/7. The dual-citizenship has changed the entire dynamics of immigration.McCain was deluded by big Agriculture and the likes of lobbyist Hernandez, who is a traitor.
c’mon zorro, you can’t help put odumbo in the White House.
You will find Hernandezs photo here in the dictionary;
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–adjective, smarm·i·er, smarm·i·est. excessively or unctuously flattering, ingratiating, servile, etc.: the emcee with the smarmy welcome.
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He can and he will, ajmontana. And he’s not alone.
BOB said (#3):
First, 23% if Hispanic voters is millions of votes. Second, most of those bedrock conservatives will vote for McCain no matter what he does if the alternative is a Democrat. Those are the 28% of voters who still support Bush. He needs more votes than that to win. The only reason McCain is even on the map this year is that he is a “maverick” who has deviated from Bushism in the past.
“who has deviated from Bushism in the past.”
The democrats call him “McSame.”
I understand aj. The ball is in McCain’s court. He is still a sitting Senator, who knows, maybe he will introduce a bill to next week to build and complete a fence on our southern border before Christmas.
As I see it now, the race is Obama’s to lose. Where McCain’s campaign is similar to Dole’s, the good news is that Obama’s race is like J. F. Kerry’s.
I’ll do my best to get Melissa Hart elected to the House but the national GOP party is no longer my cup of tea.
Doesn’t that make McCain a traitor too?
keep dreaming. if there was a good conservative running, your MAHDI wouldn’t stand a chance.
how has he deviated? bush signed mccain feingold, and they both support amnesty, the surge, the war in iraq…oh yeah they differed on tax cuts…
tax increases is always a winning platform…sure!!
this is one of many things that really burn me up about Juan…accusing our soldiers/agents of ‘torture’ its a huge lie.
and BS reasoning that al-qaeda won’t do it to us if we don’t do it to them…laughable
bingo!! we’ve got to get rid of these RINO scum.
I can’t believe those morons in SC voted for grahmnesty…better known as Juan’s B….
corruption?? what country do you live in, bush compared to Herr Klinton??? oh this is just laughable.
you left-wing wackos are just crazed. because you sure don’t have truth, facts, logic, or history on your side.
I guess lies are all you do have.
The flip side of defeating this RINO scum is that the most liberal senator in 2007 will become the president due to a lack of votes for McCain. Because one of these two men will be the president.
And how is that going to work out for us all?
The most important issue to me is the enforcement of immigration laws. This means building the fence, terminating entitlements to illegals, deporting illegals, using English only for all government and public documents, termination of funding for sanctuary cities, eliminating all freebies to illegals, and closing the border to Mexico until this invasion is stopped.
As a prior poster said, I will vote for Obama simply to punish turncoat McShamnesty. He is an embarrassment to politics and deserves the same fate as Queen Hillary, rejection by the people.
Obama is a loser, but I’ll live wiht him for 4-8 years rather than look at the staged, ridiculous grin of “my friend” Juan McPanderer.
Just disgusting that the GOP base has no one to vote for when it’s this critical. What a wasted election year.
Wow.
Absolutely amazing. So you are really one of the Obamicans i’ve heard about.
Or more correctly, an Obamaervative. An Obama-conservative-operative. And it’s all McCain’s fault.
On July 26th, 2008 at 5:48 pm, JHSII said:
Attacked? I haven’t “attacked” anyone. An “attack” would be pointing out that you are too thick to see that allowing Obama to win by default is hardly “conservative”, that you are too insecure to do anything but hop on the anti-McCain bandwagon and too much of a prepubescent girl to think that presenting that argument is an “attack”. Indeed, was I even talking to you? Nope.
Oh sure I have, you must have missed it while you were wallowing in your victimization complex and wetting the bed because someone had an opinion that flew in the face of what you wish to believe but are too inarticulate to formulate an argument why they should change their mind… You see, since you seem perfectly willing to see Barack Obama elected because of your continued hissy fit you are not a particularly good consirvative. Electing Obama isn’t anything a conservative would condone. And no, I hadn’t “attacked” you you big crybaby, I have been hoping that they woulld sit you at the kiddy table so the adults can talk uninterrupted.
So LGM you really believe that believe that Americans love a 14% approval-rated congress run by guess who-Democrats?
If the Democrats hadn’t tried to sell themselves as conservatives in the districts they won in 2006, they’d still be out of control with respect to Congress…Pelosi’s time is running out and it will all be for naught.
As it stands the Democrats can’t get anything without Republican approval-good or bad.
wise_man
Whatever you want to call me, is okay. I detest Obama, but Juan McShamnesty has betrayed the GOP and I will do everything in my power to convince people to vote for Obama. It is all McCain’s fault and it started back when he turned his back on the Arizona voters looking to enforce immigration laws. He, in my opinion, is a worthless, power grubber, seeking personal fullfillment at the expense of his party. I believe he will go down in flames and I will be delighted. I can weather the next 8 years if need be and am happy to do it if it means defeating the deceiver.
Have a nice evening.
On July 26th, 2008 at 10:58 pm, Stubby said:
I just can’t believe this. This is not rational. Yet this blog helps promote this outright insanity.
Hi Bill,
As insane as you might think this is, I really don’t think it matters much who is the president regarding the war, taxes, healthcare, oil and infrastructure. The arrogant disrespect for the will of the people regarding the immigration fiasco and the continued support of open borders and amnesty, is abhorrent to me and McCain has betrayed the populace and deserves to lose the votes. Should I not vote at all? What kind of message does that send? My vote and all the votes that I can persuade to vote for Obama, will represent our disgust for his arrogance and self-serving manner.
1: I can’t either.
2: No it’s not.
3: Yes it does.
Quite insane.
You know what happened with Bill Clinton as president. What do you think would have been the response to 9/11 with President Gore. And if Kerry was president not Bush after 2004, we would have left Iraq to it’s destruction, Bush would have been blamed for this worse than WW2 holocaust and Bush’s seeds of democracy in the middle east would have died before being able to grow, and terrorism would be many more times devastating that it was 7 years ago.
Presidents do make a difference. And keeping out a democrat, especially in these times, makes a huge difference. Keeping out the most liberal president will make a difference.
I wish I could say something to the one issue voters who see this election as only illegal immigration, but I know that I will fail, because there is no logic to the people who have been hell bent on this destructive course.
Should I even try to persuade you otherwise? Because it does. It matters a whole lot actually.
So do everything in my power to convince people to vote for someone who is across the board worse on immigration.
(To everyone else…I just frigging can’t get over this, I realize that I come across as an arrogant prick but how the hell am I supposed address this? Do I pretend that it is OK? Do I feel his pain? Sorry if it sounds like an “attack” but this is nuts. Calling it otherwise just prepetuates the nuttyness.)
So instead of joining FAIR or actually doing …anything…you have decided the best course of action is to vote for someone who is not only open boarders but who doesn’t believe in the concept of borders at all. (snap)
In your case, that might be for the best. How’s this for a concept, vote for whomever you think will do the best job and then continue to push for your agenda once they get elected instead of rolling over and thinking that flipping a lever is all you ever have to do?
No. Not at all. Not in the slightest. A billion times no. That is not what it will represent. Your vote for something means that you endorse it. That is what Obama will take away from you voting for him. You will be seen as one more person that supports diluting US sovereignty, socializing entire segments of the economy, ruinous spending policies, capitulation to islamist terrorists and OPEN BORDERS.
On July 26th, 2008 at 11:38 pm, wise_man said:
Setting aside appeasing islamists, surrendering in Iraq, emboldening Iran and al Qaeda, sodomizing Israel, socializing entire industries and pushing our national debt over our the gdp effectively bankrupting the USA and making our dollar technically worthless, turning over American sovereignty to international organizations who not only do not have our best internists in mind have continually shown that they resent the hell out of the United States, continuing the destruction of our manufacturing base only with the added drag of arbitrary attacks on international trade deals that have worked for the USA, making excuses for and subsidizing the ineffective, stupid and wasteful while punishing the successful, efficient and pragmatic… Collectivizing while crapping on the individual… Set aside all that and MUCH MUCH more…
OBAMA IS MUCH, MUCH WORSE ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!
Well, before today, I would say, address this as any other person who wants the democrat to win. Be they democrat or unhinged conservative. But earlier today, the lead person at hotair expressed that he was pissed that anyone who defends McCain and strongly counters the anti-McCain hive mind might be dealt with, if enough other anti-McCain people complained, so I would advise caution at this point. Any voice of dissent and criticizing the people who criticizing McCain ‘irritates the hell out of’ him. And that the definition of trolling is not the liberals posing as conservatives (or people like stub who want Obama) but the conservatives who actually want Obama to loose, and do something about it like express themselves forcefully.
I really don’t understand this movement here, it really is self-destructive, knowing that this election is now down to only two people. And we know exactly what Barack Obama as president will be.
Bill..
You have a point that voting for McCain and then pursuing the fight against amnesty, etc., once the democrats have been defeated, is another option. It just seems that all is lost on the immigration front, and being a lifelong resident of the Los Angeles area, it has become a cesspool and no longer fit to live in. The consequence of ignoring immigration law manifests itself here daily, with hordes of non-assimilating foreigners jabbering in their native tongue, ignoring our laws and pusuing their own interests without regard for our culture, language and human decency. I will give this some thought, as it is clearly better to vote or not vote with one’s brain rather than emotion. Thanks for the suggestion. You too wise_man.
It doesn’t matter who wins, there’s a bigger – much bigger – problem looming, and the only difference the elected POTUS may make is the speed with which we reach this looming end to the United States economy once and for all.
From an article published in CNN back in March, we have a very large asteroid on its way, and there is nothing we can do about it.
The asteroid is an economic one.
Just a taste of perspective first:
– $200 billion is the approximate total amount of write-downs announced as a result of the credit crisis (as at March 2008).
– $14.1 trillion is the size of the entire U.S. economy, but here’s the kicker..
– $53 trillion is the approximate size of this country’s bill for the Social Security and Medicare promises we’ve made.
According to a Social Security and Medicare Trustees report released in March, the economic asteroid will first make impact in the year 2019, when the Medicaid trust fund becomes insolvent.
Only an immediate 122% increase in Medicare taxes and a 26% increase in Social Security taxes can even delay its impact. On our current course, every single tax dollar that is sent to Washington will be used to pay for just these two programs. That means no money is left for anything else. Nothing. No Department of Defense or Homeland Security, no Department of Energy, no Department of Justice, no Environmental Protection Agency. Nothing.
Our unfunded promises translate into an IOU of around $455,000 per American household. And that’s currently. Just wait until we open our borders up courtesy of either of these idiots we have to choose from for POTUS. That bill is going to triple.
Be honest, no matter what side of the political aisle you’re on, it’s obvious that our financial deficit is dwarfed only by the deficit of trust we have in our leaders.
People like wise_man and Bill say they are willing to do the right thing for our future and vote McCain in order to block Obama, and I’m willing to make sacrifices too, but not when I believe that our leaders will do nothing but make the asteroid even larger.
This is your future. It is unavoidable.
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Not to pick on you here, WM, but that’s how it’s supposed to work – the candidate who wins more votes usually does win the election itself. There have been 4 rare exceptions in history – with 2000 being one of them, of course.
But votes do have to be “won” , it’s not a free gift.(I’ve always thought free gift to be redundant…)
However the focus should be on the Electoral College and how it will go in select states much more than on how anybody hereabouts might feel. It’s just July so I wouldn’t get completely shook up over EC tally polling data. But I think it’s fair to say that McCain has his work cut out for him.
Thanks. In order to have some effect, any effect on the illegal alien debate we are going to have to get organized and vocal. The open borders side writes letters, makes phone calls, lobbies and intimidates, not to mention takes to the streets by the hundreds of thousands and waves the flags of foreign nations. Contrast that to the pro enforcement side who debates whether or not to just give the whole thing up.
McCain has shown that he will listen, as he has on drilling, tax cuts and yes, enforcement first on illegal immigration. Once he is in he won’t have any need to pander.
Additionally, any Amnesty bill will come out of the Senate. If McCain gets promoted the people of Arizona will replace him with a genuine conservative. If Obama gets promoted you are just going to get another south side Chicago socialist pushing for open borders.
You’re not licked until you quit.
I definitely understand your frustration Stubby, I just think that the USA is worth the fighting for. Besides, we’ve got no place else to go.
Whelp, if things get Stalinist there or here should tell you and everyone else that censorship was resorted to because they couldn’t formulate a reasoned counterargument. Regardless, If there are purges Ill see you at the gulag and thanks for fighting the good fight.
I suppose different people have different motivations. Some can’t get over the fact that McCain proposed that truly lousy bill. Some are democrats posing as conservatives who are trying to split the republican vote. Some are along for the ride. Some wont concessions, some like to see their words on the internet, some genuinely want Obama.
What I know is that the prospect of an Obama presidency should make any genuine conservative or patriotic American ready to contribute to, campaign for and especially vote for just about anyone else; let alone a war hero with 50 years of service to the USA.
Well…it may be that he hasn’t realized that he may want to welcome them all here and do what he can to make it happen, but it is The Empty Suited Messiah who promises them that once they are given their citizenship, they will never have to work another day in their life again. Nor will they have to worry about getting health insurance, food, cars, or anything else.
Getting here is just one small part. Promising them everything else is where McCain doesn’t get it.
But give him time. At the rate he is going, I am sure promising them the rest is just around the corner.
I wouldn’t have thought that 66% of latinos were looking for a hand-out. Whey you add that number to the existing dependent class, Obama has quite a base. All the more reason to focus on deportation of illegal aliens.
The irony is that McCain would probably gotten 23% of hispanic vote if he’d never attended a La Raza convention or uttered a word about amnesty. Still, he will continue to pander to a handful of illegal aliens and alienate the conservative base.
Stupid is as stupid does.
#139 Bill Grant said:
That’s an outright lie. You’ve repeatedly attacked people here – even in your response ehre you repeatedly attack me.
So, you make an attack against me – and everyone else here who hasn’t drank the McCain Kool-Aid, and then say it isn’t an attack.
Thanks for proving my point.
He still hasn’t answered the question of how attacking Conservatives is supposed to get them to support McCain.
Another outright lie by you. Followed by yet another attack:
Why all the hate from you for someone who can think for themselves?
You say that you want people to jump on board the McCain bandwagon – and then you attack me to drive me away.
Again – How is attacking Conservatives like me supposed to make us want to vote for or support McCain?
Your reaction so far has been akin to the guy who says that beating his wife makes her love him.
Not doing too well for McCain & Co.
Maybe I can get drunk and force myself to vote for McCain. To do so to stop something even worse almost makes sense. The continued steam of illegals, in addition to the thirty million or so aready here, and the millions of already citizen anchor babies, means we have already lost the illegal immigration battle.
The seeds already have been planted that will turn the USA into Mexico north in a relative short time, and I see nothing that will change that. Still, voting for a man who sees giving away our country as not only acceptible, but desireable, won’t be easy, no matter how much worse the other guy is.
In the words of a Huey Lewis rock song:
“Sometimes Bad is Bad”
and….
Harry “tommy, i know his last name” Reid and San Fran Nan are much worse.
I agree with you. Sadly, it is already happening in a big way here in Southern California…
I’d get rid of duel citizenship. Make Juan choose one country and move there!
fixed.
No. Although that’s a huge issue, and one that intelligent liberals need to wake up to as well. We all lose from open borders, including you.
He has not. As you admit, he’s pretended to move a little to the right on some isses, but not very believably.
He’s a cultural liberal. His immigration position is just one example of that.
He’s a fiscal liberal. His opposition to the Bush tax cuts as “tax cuts for the rich” for instance.
He’s a big government worshipper – his global warming position makes him the next FDR when it comes to the size of government.
He’s not trustworthy. He’s built his reputation on his willingness to shaft conservatives and to suck up to the most left-wing members of the Senate. That makes it impossible to believe that he’ll be any good even on those issues he is supposedly solid on, like pork, guns, or abortion.
The nearest comparision I can think of woud be if the Democrats had nominated Zell Miller. How much joy would there be in the Democratic ranks in that case?
He has no need to pander now! He does not pander to the left because he thinks that he needs to, he does it from conviction. Surely that is obvious even to you? Have you learned nothing from the Bush years? The GOP leadership is not animated by a love of power, but a love of liberalism. We’d all be so much better off if they were simply interested in getting elected, and not in transforming America into their idea of a liberal paradise.
I was in L.A. earlier this year, and I felt like I was in a foreign country, not the USA. The USA will cease to exist.
What does Mexiso North mean? People here need to identify exactly what it is they are for and against.
I think “Mexico North” signifies the transformation of America into a country ruled by an elite which does not answer to the people. That’s a goal which both the Republican and Democratic parties share. Don’t kid yourselves that McCain and the GOP elite have the slightest respect for ordinary Americans. They are identical to their “dear friends” in the Democratic party in this matter.
You might as well give it up, wise_man. This place stopped making sense a long time ago.
Michelle is going to keep posting crap like this, sadly and to her own detriment. She’s blinded by her hatred for John McCain and her anti-hispanic bigotry, and it’s destroying her credibility as a journalist. She doesn’t seem to care, though, so why should you? Why should I?
The ignorant commentators here are proud of their stubborn, destructive “true conservative” defiance and they’re in full lockdown mode. They’re determined to teach moderates and Dems a “lesson”, and they really think that they’re going to make it happen. It’s unbelievely arrogant and patently ridiculous, but you’re not going to dissuade them or sway them.
This site has become a representative of the worst that the Republican party has to offer. I’ts poisoned with Obama shills, white nationalists, pro-deportation and pro-eugenics advocates, and all manner of raging anti-Mexican, anti-hispanic nutcases.
As far as I’m concerned, this place is a lost cause.
I’ve delinked Michelle on all my sites, and I’m choosing now to move on to forward-thinking sites that recognize the SERIOUS dangers of an Obama administration and are actually interested in doing whatever it takes to strengthen America, maintain our National defense, and prevent a raging, narcissistic Marxist from assuming the most powerful seat in the world.
Nothing is going to change here.
Time to let it go.
I think one could answer that question with a visit to Mexico south.
To me it means having a forever divided nation, no more America as a melting pot, no more alligence to the USA, except for what you can take from her. It means school systems teaching in different languages and kids learning even less than they are now. It means people who break the law, (often many laws), being rewarded for their lawbreaking. It means the insanity of 75% of legal Americans wanting the borders secured and “attrition by enforcement” of existing laws, and our elected representitives refusing to honor the wishes of the majority.
It means a slow degeneration of the USA into just another third-world country.
… about as well as commenting at Hot Air
Does objecting to millions entering the USA illegally and turning the nation into a replica of what they were trying to get away from make me a “white nationalist”?
Probably so, and I will wear the title proudly.
Bye, and take the wise man with you.
And Irish Rose trolls in for another shot at Michelle Malkin and other real Conservatives.
This site – http://www.MichelleMalkin.com continues to be a site for people who think for themselves, i.e. real Conservatives. Just because Irish Rose can’t think for herself doesn’t mean any of the rest of us can’t.
Goodbye, Irish Rose. No one will miss your attacks on the military service of others, attacks on Michelle Malkin, attacks on Conservatives in general, or trolling.
Like the Southern Poverty Law Center, hmm? That’s your natural home, with the other members of the racist left.
I’ve asked Michelle to delete my registration but before I go, I’d like to publicly thank bloggers like Charles Johnson who take time to actually moderate their blogs and would never allow the kind of racist, hate-filled comments that I’ve seen here at MM to be posted on their discussion threads.
McCain ’08!
I’d be very surprised if she actually leaves. Threats to leave are more the style of the adolescent left.
The Lefty Gay Fascist? Yeah, he’s your type.
I see Irish Rose is projecting again even as she promises again to leave.
Nothing new to see here
I can tell that this wll be one of those long drawn-out goodbyes ….
“I mean it! This time I’m really going!”
DLTDHYOTWO
You have been the poster child for full of crap here.
It’s like the store that has the “Going Out of Business!” sale every month or so.
Skipping right past the inconvienent fact that this was posted by CW, and that what he posted was the unvarnished truth – McMoron is getting whipped by Obama among Hispanics, for all his pathetic hispandering.
But such trivial details mean nothing to the left.
I have a real problem with La Raza and Amnesty. But coming from a military family, I cannot subject them to the girly man douche bag.
Also I cannot subject the people I know who work in health care to Obama.
Now I my wife came here from the Philippines in 7th grade with her family. They came here fulling needs, in Engineering, Healthcare, Business, etc. They are all now Americans.
1) People must follow the rules to get here
2) Or they must be fulfulling a need our Country has or both.
You need work permits, fine. Prove it. Fingerprint and photo. If they disappear penalize the company. If they change companies the next company is on the hook.
There are more than enough moderate and conservative hispanics and other groups that will vote.
I’ll fight McCain on this and global warming, but Obama would be a disaster.
I’m more qualified than Obama to be President.
You’re more qualified than McCain to be the next President.
flenser,
He’s got Rove’s #1 guy in the fold now. McCain appears that he’ll change his mind, when better/more information presents itself.
If he picks a true conservative VP, that will help.
I really think the way to dump the RINO’s and socialist is to ID conservative candidates and support them where ever they may be. I bought a few domain names to that end. I’m working on my real business right now, but I plan to launch something in the next six months.
If we can get Murtha out, that will be a start. I’ve been sending money to his chalenger, even though I live in NJ.
If Obama wins, start the impeachment process the next day.
Rove has been a disaster for the GOP.
I’ve seen nothing to suggest that. One of the defining characteristics of McCain is that he does not change his mind, especially if better information is given to him. He knows better than anyone else. He makes Bush seem open to reason.
The Dem Congress will impeach their own guy?
flenser,
just following the nutroot playbook
“anti-hispanic bigotry”
Yup, typical – can’t state the truth if it’s about the illegal aliens (never mind that not all illegal aliens are Hispanic), because as far as you’re concerned IrishRose, a racist (or bigot) is apparently anyone who dares uphold federal law over a person who is breaking it and is not even a citizen of this country.
Buh-bye IrishRose, don’t let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
Do you think they’ll make an Obama gaffe calendar like Bush or would that be racist.
Hello double standard.
The only way they could make an Obama gaffe calendar would be if it were an hourly calendar. There aren’t enough days in a year to include all his gaffes
Wow, don’t know what happened there. Need more coffee.
Charles Johnson, the creator of Little Green Footballs, is a lefty gay fascist? When did that happen?
In whose eyes? Yours? Are you just that egotistical as to think that your opinion matters so much to anyone, let alone Michelle…who has permitted you to comment here in the first place? Do you really believe that she had all this “credibility” in the eyes of all you self-righteous sanctimonious Liberals, Moderates and others of your ilk in the first place? Please…do show me where all this “Credibility” with all of your kind was PRIOR to all of this, then demonstrate where, in fact, she has proven to have lost any of it. Just because YOU think so does not make it so. The argument is just as strong that this is making her MORE credible to others. Please…the sun does not rise and set on our rump…get over yourself.
Again, based on what? Your opinion? I’m sorry, but who died and left you the ultimate end all, be all as far as what is and should be? If you would like, I would be more than willing to call 911 for you to deal with whoever it is that is holding that gun to your head, forcing you to come here and comment. Obviously, that must be why you continue to return to a site that so obviously violates your most delicate senses. The rest of us have free will and can walk away should we really feel it.
But then again, I imagine that your opinion is the ONLY opinion that matters. Since others do not feel the way you do, well then they MUST be all the things you state, is that correct? God forbid that people do not swallow the same crap you believe. How dare we.
But you couldn’t just go. No…you had to leave with a flourish of self-righteous, sanctimonious rhettoric that really is nothing more than YOUR opinion.
Well allow me to be the first to say, “Don’t let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you”.
I am sure that Michelle’s readership will tank…just noticeably plummet now that you have “de-linked” her site from all of yours, and there will be oh so many fewer commentors as well as all her public appearance requests will surely fall.
Thank you so much for playing and please…have a nice day.
“#191 RetFireman said: Well allow me to be the first to say, “Don’t let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you”.”
Sorry, beat you to it (#186)
When are Republican candidates going to figure out that alienating a gazillion Republican voters in an attempt to win over a small handful of undecided voters does not help one’s chances of being elected?
It’s one thing if Sen. McCain honestly holds these views. I could at least respect him when I don’t vote for him if he was honest with us, but I don’t believe he is. I believe he thinks his military career and a bit of pandering will get him elected. I will write in Fred Thompson, or Pat Toomey, or Ronald Reagan, or Bugs Bunny, but I will not vote for John McCain.
In the latest issue of Townhall Magazine, Michelle said something to the effect of the following:
She may have been quoting someone, and I can’t say for sure since I don’t have the issue in front of me. The point remains the same – Obama’s election could set us back a few years, but McCain’s election could set conservative Republicans back even further.
As an aside, how sad is it that I have to qualify the term “Republicans” with the term “conservative”? (shaking head in disgust)
On July 27th, 2008 at 8:03 am, JHSII said:
If you feel that you have been “attacked” because you had to read something that you disagree chances are that you are going to have a tough time in this world protecting your poor little self.
Once again, you big crybaby, I wasn’t even addressing you. “Attacking” you would be like attacking the bug splat on my windshield.
I could turn this around and state that you have drank your own anti-McCain kool aid which turned you in to a shrill, hysterical, irrational, PMSing, tantrum throwing crybay, but if I did it wouldn’t be an attack on “everyone else” here, it would be pointing out that you have some issues of insecurity and bandwagon hopping to deal with.
Oh but I have, over and over. It is verifiable. You aren’t a conservative, although you may even think you are. Conservatives value individualism. You just
wantneed to be one of the herd.Now, your standard operating procedure has been to repeat a question that has been answered over and over again like a 2 year old. You have had your answer twice now on this thread alone. If you think that it is somehow clever to ask the same question again you are mistaken, it just makes you look infantile and you wouldn’t want to look infantile, now would you?
On July 27th, 2008 at 10:15 am, flenser said:
Like it or not, the Hispanic constituency in the USA is a voting bloc that needs to be courted. Is that somehow McCain’s fault? We have had unrestricted immigration from Mexico since Eisenhower left office. If, on the off chance that you actually take this seriously flenser and are not simply trying to split the republican vote to get Obama elected there are things you can do and advocacy groups that you can join to help push for saner immigration laws. The big problem is that the people who want more enforcement stay at home and debate on the internet how they can best shoot themselves in the foot and the people who want open borders take to the street.
People here are complaining about “Mc Shamnasty”(TM) while Obama is talking about giving illegal aliens free health care. It’s incredible and this endless tantrum will just result in MORE illegal aliens.
If I am so slow to catch on how is it I was able to teach you what “socialist” means?
Good Grief, do you expect anyone outside the echo chamber to actually believe that the GOP wants to turn the country in to a liberal paradise?
More lies, attacks, and trolling from the usual suspect: Bill Grant.
I’ll start with this one. In post #194, Bill Grant quoted me as saying:
I never posted that.
Why couldn’t Bill Grant respond to what I actually did post?
On July 27th, 2008 at 11:23 am, JHSII said:
Boy I regret teaching you that word.
On July 27th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, JHSII said:
So do you just sit here and hit “refresh” all day? Aren’t “conservatives” supposed to have jobs?
In essence.
I did, obviously.