Bolton Fisks Obama’s Berlin Speech

By see-dubya  •  July 29, 2008 01:42 PM

Apparently the Obamessiah is not omniscient. John Bolton reminds us that he forgot some important lessons from the Cold War:

Obama explained that the fall of the Berlin Wall and the reunification of Europe proved “that there is no challenge too great for a world that stands as one.”

Perhaps Obama needs a remedial course in Cold War history, but the Berlin Wall most certainly did not come down because “the world stood as one.” The wall fell because of a decades-long, existential struggle against one of the greatest totalitarian ideologies mankind has ever faced. It was a struggle in which strong and determined U.S. leadership was constantly questioned, both in Europe and by substantial segments of the senator’s own Democratic Party. In Germany in the later years of the Cold War, Ostpolitik — “eastern politics,” a policy of rapprochement rather than resistance — continuously risked a split in the Western alliance and might have allowed communism to survive. The U.S. president who made the final successful assault on communism, Ronald Reagan, was derided by many in Europe as not very bright, too unilateralist and too provocative.

It’s a really well-written piece, as is the norm from the Stache. One of the few things I’m looking forward to from a McCain presidency is the possibility that Bolton may be playing a role in his cabinet.
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  1. #389719
    On July 29th, 2008 at 1:45 pm, jhn1 said:

    No chance for a Bolton candidacy, unfortunately. McCain didn’t go to bat for John the first time, he would not this time either, not to mention that Bolton is not an Amnesty proponent.
    0 for 3

  2. #389727
    On July 29th, 2008 at 1:47 pm, jhn1 said:

    Candidacy for any position (Cabinet or otherwise) that the Senate has voting rights against.

  3. #389731
    On July 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pm, John Ansell said:

    I second Jhn1. McInsane would never pick Bolton.

  4. #389733
    On July 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pm, ACHefty said:

    Too bad McCain won’t use him. He would make an excellent SecState.

    BarryO, you have been thumped by a statesman greater than anything you aspire to be.

    Out!

  5. #389734
    On July 29th, 2008 at 1:49 pm, letget said:

    Boy, I really like John Bolton. He is not a shy child and tells it like it is. Too bad we don’t have more like him.
    L

  6. #389740
    On July 29th, 2008 at 1:53 pm, abstractmind said:

    Stache for Prez 08.

  7. #389741
    On July 29th, 2008 at 1:53 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Bolton probably didn’t even break a sweat dissecting Obie’s speech… can I say that or does Obie have a monopoly on sweat-free activities? ;-)

  8. #389742
    On July 29th, 2008 at 1:54 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Apparently the Obamessiah is not omniscient.

    He is however, an egomaniac.

  9. #389744
    On July 29th, 2008 at 1:54 pm, sonofdy said:

    100% correct. Obama forgets more than half the world wanted the USSR to win.

  10. #389745
    On July 29th, 2008 at 1:55 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Apparently the Obamessiah is not omniscient.

    That’ll cost you 10 “Our Fathers”.

    Bolton has a backbone so McCain will have no use for him.

  11. #389746
    On July 29th, 2008 at 1:55 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Will we survive to vote for Bolton in 2012?…. I hope so.

  12. #389750
    On July 29th, 2008 at 1:56 pm, ajmontana said:

    “Perhaps Obama needs a remedial course in Cold War history everything”

  13. #389751
    On July 29th, 2008 at 1:57 pm, Bill Grant said:

    “McCain didn’t go to bat for John the first time,”

    Not so.
    McCain had worked the floor throughout the vote, and pleaded unsuccessfully with Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) to vote to limit the debate.

    And John Bolton has endorsed John McCain.

    ARLINGTON, VA — U.S. Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign today announced that former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton has endorsed John McCain for president. Ambassador Bolton issued the following statement on his endorsement:”John McCain was very active and supportive during my confirmation hearings to be the U.S. Ambassador to the UN. His belief in me at that time was a testament to his courage to fight the liberals in the Senate and vigorously advance American interests at the UN.

    “I whole-heartedly endorse John McCain for President because when he takes office in January 2009 he will be prepared immediately to lead us. John will not need on the job training.

    American conservatives will have a President they can be proud of in John McCain.

  14. #389755
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:00 pm, Gabe said:

    On July 29th, 2008 at 1:45 pm, jhn1 said:
    No chance for a Bolton candidacy, unfortunately. McCain didn’t go to bat for John the first time, he would not this time either, not to mention that Bolton is not an Amnesty proponent.

    That is false. McCain was a BIG supporter of Bolton and helped get him as Ambassador to the U.N. Bolton is a big supporter of McCain, and McCain has a lot of respect for hima and urged us to get behind McCain. I’m predicting he will be Secretary of State under McCain.

    I know this because I was in the audience at Bolton’s speech at CPAC, in which he recounted for the audience how much McCain supported him behind the scenes. We would not have had Bolton without McCain. Go watch Bolton’s speech from CPAC: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1967675/posts

    Plus, in his book, he discusses McCain’s support (pp. 189-192 of Surrender is Not an Option).

    McCain has been a HUGE supporter of Bolton.

  15. #389756
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:02 pm, MtsEdge said:

    Obama, trying to leverage Reagan’s monumental speech of two decades ago, truly missed the mark. When Ronald Reagan said, “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!”, he was speaking from a lifetime of experience fighting communism, under threats to his personal safety, dating back to his days with the Screen Actors Guild.

    When Obama tries to speak about walls, it’s only theory, ideology, emotion.

    With Obama, it’s always form over substance.

  16. #389758
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:02 pm, DanVanSmak said:

    #13 (Bill):

    While I agree with you, we see how President Bush had to appoint Mr. Bolton during recess because Congress would not confirm him.

    However, if I was John McCain, and I was elected president, I would appoint him — just to annoy Congress. And then, when Congress gongs Bolton — again — I’d invite Mr. Bolton over to the White House for a couple of beers, oh, say, every other day, just to chat about, you know, guy stuff :)

    War the audacity of the unpaid ERRRRR paid under the table consultant!

    *out*

  17. #389759
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:04 pm, meatpieandtatters said:

    Barry Obama is a puppet-headed dolt. The fact he’s wrong on so many points of politic, diplomacy and history means that his puppet masters are equally stupid as he is.

  18. #389761
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:04 pm, FruNobulux said:

    Ya gotta love Bolton: intelligent, no-nonsense, practical. Ideal presidential material. Could he play slurp-slurp enough to get the Republican nomination? Maybe if the Republican party could grow a pair, otherwise he’s just not girly enough.

  19. #389762
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:05 pm, Bill Grant said:

    Hi fives to Gabe,

    By the way, a complete (albeit looong) fisking of Obamas speech can be seen at Don Surber/Daily mail.

  20. #389763
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:05 pm, Marc said:

    Nobody in the MSM mentions how much Obama plaigiarized in the Berlin speech. He said “This is our time…” which was just stealing lines that Bono had used many times before. Obama also lifted JFK’s inaugural address. JFK said “To my fellow citizens of the world…” .Obama said “I come before you as a citizen of the world”. Someone with technical skill should do a youtube video of JFK’s famous line and then put Obama’s ripoff line right after that. Bono’s speech about “This is our time” should be placed next to Obama cribbing his lines.

  21. #389764
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:05 pm, Gabe said:

    Correction:

    That is false. McCain was a BIG supporter of Bolton and helped get him as Ambassador to the U.N. Bolton is a big supporter of McCain, and McCain Bolton has a lot of respect for him and urged us to get behind McCain. I’m predicting he will be Secretary of State under McCain.

    Oops, I thought I previewed it!

  22. #389766
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, Bill Grant said:

    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:02 pm, DanVanSmak said:

    While I agree with you, we see how President Bush had to appoint Mr. Bolton during recess because Congress would not confirm him.

    Just one of the many, many things that adds up to 9% approval rating. ;-)

  23. #389768
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, jsr said:

    John Bolton makes more good points in that article than I have heard Obama (or McCain) make in the past year. Why can’t we get candidates that talk to Americans like adults and speak about the the world as it is, not as it should be? That would be real change.

  24. #389772
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:12 pm, abstractmind said:

    I do have to give the Meadering Talk Express train this prop…he was, in fact, a huge supporter of the Stache. That is, if nothing else, something he absolutely did get right.

  25. #389773
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, Concerned Citizen said:

    On July 29th, 2008 at 1:57 pm, Bill Grant said:

    Wise_man could use a little vindication around here.

    The problem is that Bolton is very polarizing. The media did a great job vilifying Karl Rove. People can’t even tell you what he did, but they know he’s bad. They would do the same with Bolton. The difference is that Bolton bites back and may end up being a distraction to the administration. Personally, I think he needs to find a nice red district and run for Congress. I’d bet he could really stir some stuff up there.

  26. #389785
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pm, Gabe said:

    By the way, a complete (albeit looong) fisking of Obamas speech can be seen at Don Surber/Daily mail.

    Bill Grant, thanks for linking to that article by the German citizen. It is hilarous because he is so dead-on accurate. Everyone should check it out. This excerpt cracks me up:

    Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen, a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world.

     CONTENT: I speak to you not as a candidate for President is an empty phrase. This statement is not the truth! Has Barack Hussein Obama suddenly decided not to candidate? If Barack Hussein Obama has not come as a presidential candidate, then why all of the fuss?

     CONTENT: Empty phrase. There is really no such person as a citizen of the world. There is no legal term recognizing this status. Citizens belong to countries, to nations. We are citizens of different nations of the world. There is no logic and no legality in the statement. Being a lawyer, Barack Hussein Obama should know this.

     Citizen of the world reminds me of the statement by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in the Communist Manifesto: “Workers of the world unite.”

    I know that I don‘t look like the Americans who‘ve previously spoken in this great city.

     GRAMMAR: Proper public speeches do not use contractions.

     CONTENT: Is this a reference to Barack Hussein Obama’s being Afro-American? There are many Afro-Americans who have spoken in Berlin. They are too numerous to mention. They include actors, actresses, politicians, businesspersons, sportspersons, etc. Is this an indication of an identity crisis?
    The journey that led me here is improbable.
     Improbable is the wrong word. No journey is improbable. A better statement is: a long one.

     A journey does not lead. Reasons and principles lead. Journeys bring something!
    My mother was born in the heartland of America, but my father grew up herding goats in Kenya. His father, my grandfather, was a cook, a domestic servant to the British.
     CONTENT: Is Barack Hussein Obama implying that Barack Hussein Obama is different? My father was a machine worker. My mother was a cleaning woman. My grandfather was a lumberjack. My great-grandfather herded cows, goats, and pigs, and had hens. Barack Hussein Obama’s heritage is no different from mine or millions of others.

     What else could Barack Hussein Obama’s father’s father be except Barack Hussein Obama’s grandfather?
    At the height of the Cold War, my father decided, like so many others in the forgotten corners of the world, that his yearning his dream required the freedom and opportunity promised by the West.
     CONTENT: This is a false statement at the beginning. The Cold War started shortly after WWII when in November of 1945 a communist-supported uprising broke out in Azerbaijan. In January 1946 the Prime Minister Qavan protested to the UN Security Council. The firm stance of the US government that supported the Iran position caused the Soviets to withdraw their forces in May 1946 and the rebellion was quashed in December, 1946. This is considered to be the start of the Cold War. The term COLD WAR was coined by Bernard Baruch in a congressional debate in 1947. If we consider this the starting year and 1989, the fall of the Berlin Wall as the ending year, then the Cold War lasted 42 years. I do not know when Obama Sr. arrived in Hawaii to study at the university. Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu in August 1952. So Barack Hussein Obama’s father must have arrived no later than 1951. That was only four years into the Cold War. 1951 was surely not the height of the Cold War. That came much later and many experts disagree on the exact years.

     Height of the Cold War is an empty phrase in this context.

     GRAMMAR: yearning his is improper English. One does not yearn something, one yearns for something.

  27. #389786
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    Does anybody in America take John Bolton seriously?

  28. #389789
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:25 pm, Lifeofthemind said:

    Bolton at State? :) I could see him showing up the first day with a plumbers helper and a fresh box labeled “pink slips.”

  29. #389790
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:26 pm, Gabe said:

    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pm, Ilovemycountry said:
    Does anybody in America take John Bolton seriously?

    Liberals do. That is why you hate him so much. All the enemies of the America our Founding Fathers created (liberals and their allies, the terrorists, socialists, and Marxists) hate Bolton. Why? Because he is very effective in defending America and our way of life.

  30. #389791
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:27 pm, abstractmind said:

    wise_man can take care of himself, he’s a smart guy…i dont always agree with him, but a little vindication is in order perhaps.

    And Ilovemycountry….people should take this guy a little more seriously. I like the fact he just unloads on people and tells it like it is.

    I think we, as Americans, need to hear more straight talk than we do currently.

  31. #389797
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    but my father grew up herding goats in Kenya.

    Trent Lott herds goats in Mississippi – and his point is…?

  32. #389815
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, Lifeofthemind said:

    1951- ‘52 as the “height of the cold war” is one I’d grant. Korea in progress and the coup in Czechoslovakia and Mr X behind us with the Hydrogen bomb tests and ICBMs to come. A good speaker who respected his audience enough to make local references would have noted the Tiergarten Stalin Alee riots of 1953. By the 1970s people were wondering if the term Cold War applied to the post Berlin Wall situation in Europe. It was still a confrontation with proxy wars in the 3rd world but it had changed from the days of toe to toe confrontation of the 1950s.

  33. #389817
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, Barry F. said:

    Perhaps Obama needs a remedial course in Cold War history…

    …and American History and World History and Economics and Math and Geography and… ;-)

  34. #389823
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, BrianNY said:

    Ronald Reagan, was derided by many in Europe as not very bright, too unilateralist and too provocative.

    Liberals seem to be as equally dishonest at pretending to be people they aren’t, as they are in deriding people who actually are.

  35. #389831
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:47 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    For some reason, goats + Mississippi in the same sentence doesn’t bring “herding” to mind. :shock:

  36. #389835
    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:49 pm, Concerned Citizen said:

    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:47 pm, Barry F. said:

    For some reason, goats + Mississippi in the same sentence doesn’t bring “herding” to mind.

    Do you hear banjoes?

  37. #389868
    On July 29th, 2008 at 3:00 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:49 pm, Concerned Citizen said:

    Do you hear banjoes?

    Well, it does bring Ned Beatty to mind somehow. ;-)

  38. #389879
    On July 29th, 2008 at 3:03 pm, FruNobulux said:

    Surber’s article was great, but he seems to say that O’Bama was born in ‘52. I think ‘62 is closer to the mark.

  39. #389884
    On July 29th, 2008 at 3:05 pm, BrianNY said:

    Well, it does bring Ned Beatty to mind somehow.

    The take down of anti-sodomy laws over the past few decades have sure neutered the effectiveness of that classic movie scene!

    But I still say “ouch” when I watch ol’ Ned.

  40. #389945
    On July 29th, 2008 at 3:23 pm, Lilycat said:

    I think those banjoes would be heard more clearly over in Georgia where the Chattahoochee flows…not in Mississippi.

  41. #389965
    On July 29th, 2008 at 3:32 pm, max said:

    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, Lifeofthemind said:
    1951- ‘52 as the “height of the cold war” is one I’d grant.

    Boy, you’re really looking to grant Obama one i’d say…. Ever hear of the Cuban Missile Crisis, Prague ‘68 or the Vietnam War?

  42. #389981
    On July 29th, 2008 at 3:38 pm, Barry F. said:

    On July 29th, 2008 at 3:23 pm, Lilycat said:

    The image of Ned Beatty wasn’t inspired by geography, lilycat. :lol:

  43. #389987
    On July 29th, 2008 at 3:40 pm, chep said:

    Although the thought of Bolton in a MacCain cabinet would be fantastic…

    1st McCain has to win. He’s not looking like a winner yet.
    2nd McCain would have to posssess the gonads to assign him to his cabinet instead of someone like Lieberman.

    Fat chance.

    Either way Obama is not a leader in my eyes however a lot of dumb people are praising him.

  44. #390066
    On July 29th, 2008 at 4:22 pm, JT said:

    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, Barry F. said:

    Perhaps Obama needs a remedial course in Cold War history…

    …and American History and World History and Economics and Math and Geography and… ;-)

    Ethics, Humanity, Religion, Military Science, Critical Thinking, Why Socialism Fails…

  45. #390090
    On July 29th, 2008 at 4:41 pm, Lindsay said:

    John Bolton is a guy who always speaks his mind and does not flinch.

    John Bolton for VP would cause the Democrats to reach for their Depends.

  46. #390109
    On July 29th, 2008 at 4:49 pm, Rob said:

    IMMEDIATE DEATH FOR ANY CONVICTED ELECTED OFFICIAL!

    THAT might keep the evil ones out of the business!

  47. #390150
    On July 29th, 2008 at 5:27 pm, Bill Grant said:

    And of course Rob said:

    “IMMEDIATE DEATH FOR ANY CONVICTED ELECTED OFFICIAL!”

    The caps lock is always a nice touch but only one exclamation point when calling for the death of someone/something this time? Why so half hearted?

    By the way I think you want the “Ted Stevens” topic over here.

  48. #390159
    On July 29th, 2008 at 5:35 pm, fulldroolcup said:

    Does anyone in America, besides himself, take “Ilovemycountry” seriously?

    What sort of assclown thinks a sneering drive-by dismissal, unaccompanied by facts or reasoning, is worthy of anything but scorn?

  49. #390185
    On July 29th, 2008 at 5:53 pm, Fat Jolly Penguin said:

    On July 29th, 2008 at 5:35 pm, fulldroolcup said:

    Does anyone in America, besides himself, take “Ilovemycountry” seriously?

    What sort of assclown thinks a sneering drive-by dismissal, unaccompanied by facts or reasoning, is worthy of anything but scorn?

    Well, lgm’s still out there.

  50. #390189
    On July 29th, 2008 at 5:56 pm, DBNinKY said:

    The U.S. president who made the final successful assault on communism, Ronald Reagan, was derided by many in Europe as not very bright, too unilateralist and too provocative.

    Exchange communism and Ronald Reagan for terrorism and George W. Bush, and the same sentiment would be just as apt.

    That is why I believe President Bush will be viewed by generations to come, as one of our nation’s most instrumental and decisive leaders ever – a leader who confronted our challneges head on, and who didn’t lead by the polls! (If only the same could have been said about his predecessor, then maybe 9/11 would never have happened!)

  51. #390193
    On July 29th, 2008 at 5:57 pm, DBNinKY said:

    Nutz! challneges = challenges

  52. #390220
    On July 29th, 2008 at 6:25 pm, secondsight said:

    Write this 100x: “I vote for John Robert Bolton for President.”

    There’s still time to fix our country. We don’t have to suffer Obamasan or McCain’t.

  53. #390292
    On July 29th, 2008 at 7:07 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:

    On July 29th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, Concerned Citizen said:

    Personally, I think he needs to find a nice red district and run for Congress.

    I can’t imagine John Bolton’s talents wasted on tracking down little old ladies’ lost Social Security checks.

  54. #390356
    On July 29th, 2008 at 8:11 pm, Concerned Citizen said:

    On July 29th, 2008 at 7:07 pm, Die Hippie, Die said:
    I can’t imagine John Bolton’s talents wasted on tracking down little old ladies’ lost Social Security checks.

    It’s the only place where he won’t overshadow the administration. Any cabinet position and the focus will be on him, not McCain. Look at how Rumsfeld got all the attention compared to Gates.

    Bolton could do a heck of a lot in Congress and it wouldn’t take him long to rise to the top. Either way, just knowing that he’s still in a position to affect change would make me happy.

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