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		<title>By: Egfrow</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/29/gorebulbs-rendered-obsolete/comment-page-1/#comment-396681</link>
		<dc:creator>Egfrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saving lighting costs will put some coin back in people&#039;s pockets and reduce coal consumption by a noticeable margin, what will likely happen is that coal exports will rise as they&#039;ll not be likely to reduce production capacity. Prices of coal will go down to make it more competitive. then level out. Changing lighting demands won&#039;t have as much impact on our consumption of Oil. 

But we don&#039;t need the government to force us to understand the benefits of using more efficient lighting do we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saving lighting costs will put some coin back in people&#8217;s pockets and reduce coal consumption by a noticeable margin, what will likely happen is that coal exports will rise as they&#8217;ll not be likely to reduce production capacity. Prices of coal will go down to make it more competitive. then level out. Changing lighting demands won&#8217;t have as much impact on our consumption of Oil. </p>
<p>But we don&#8217;t need the government to force us to understand the benefits of using more efficient lighting do we?</p>
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		<title>By: tbear44</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/29/gorebulbs-rendered-obsolete/comment-page-1/#comment-392542</link>
		<dc:creator>tbear44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 05:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lgm says:&lt;blockquote&gt;America can solve problems once it faces them. We can solve global warming too.

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LMAO Kool-Aid anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lgm says:<br />
<blockquote>America can solve problems once it faces them. We can solve global warming too.</p>
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<p>LMAO Kool-Aid anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: JohnHolliday</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/29/gorebulbs-rendered-obsolete/comment-page-1/#comment-392525</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnHolliday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Lynn&lt;/strong&gt;, thank you for your dilligent efforts.

&lt;strong&gt;lgm&lt;/strong&gt; won&#039;t understand you though, because you have data and facts to back up your position. I&#039;m pretty sure he wouldn&#039;t know fact if it bit him. Besides, anyone that believes that humans cause global warming has to be an idiot. This planet has warmed and cooled all on it&#039;s own for 4 billion years. There have been times when the temperature on the planet was much warmer than today. It has cycled through these warming and cooling periods and will do so again without our feeble attempts to help or hinder it.

Get a clue, &lt;strong&gt;lgm&lt;/strong&gt;.  If you want to ruin a country, go start your own.  Don&#039;t ruin ours with your socialist stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Lynn</strong>, thank you for your dilligent efforts.</p>
<p><strong>lgm</strong> won&#8217;t understand you though, because you have data and facts to back up your position. I&#8217;m pretty sure he wouldn&#8217;t know fact if it bit him. Besides, anyone that believes that humans cause global warming has to be an idiot. This planet has warmed and cooled all on it&#8217;s own for 4 billion years. There have been times when the temperature on the planet was much warmer than today. It has cycled through these warming and cooling periods and will do so again without our feeble attempts to help or hinder it.</p>
<p>Get a clue, <strong>lgm</strong>.  If you want to ruin a country, go start your own.  Don&#8217;t ruin ours with your socialist stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: faraway</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/29/gorebulbs-rendered-obsolete/comment-page-1/#comment-390653</link>
		<dc:creator>faraway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle. Come on now.  Gorebulbs?

I hate changing bulbs, so I switched all my house bulbs almost 2 years ago to CFL bulbs.  And I helped the Chinese by buying the cheapest ones I could find (6 for $6).  Not one bulb has blown yet.

I don&#039;t think the AlGore will benefit from my CFL bulbs.  Go ahead, I know you want some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle. Come on now.  Gorebulbs?</p>
<p>I hate changing bulbs, so I switched all my house bulbs almost 2 years ago to CFL bulbs.  And I helped the Chinese by buying the cheapest ones I could find (6 for $6).  Not one bulb has blown yet.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the AlGore will benefit from my CFL bulbs.  Go ahead, I know you want some.</p>
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		<title>By: ent</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/29/gorebulbs-rendered-obsolete/comment-page-1/#comment-390542</link>
		<dc:creator>ent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny this should come up today.  Less than a year ago, I replaced most of the bulbs in my house with CFLs, and just today, I noticed that one had burned out ... the fifth one!  The stinkin&#039; things were supposed to last 5-7 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny this should come up today.  Less than a year ago, I replaced most of the bulbs in my house with CFLs, and just today, I noticed that one had burned out &#8230; the fifth one!  The stinkin&#8217; things were supposed to last 5-7 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/29/gorebulbs-rendered-obsolete/comment-page-1/#comment-390312</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a student in the lab who quite accidently figured out how to make a LED produce a nice white light. Previously only a colored light was possible. LED&#039;s are every where. Cars, computers, toasters, appliances, playstations, dvd players, got an appliance with a small light, it&#039;s probably a LED. 2 years ago I changed every light bulb in my house with a cfl (over 70) including lamps, and monitored my electric bill. There was no change in kilowatts consumed. I compared 2 years of electric bills, yes I am a nerd. The bulbs in ceiling fixtures that hung upside down started burning out within a month, a common problem. The recessed can bulbs took 2 minutes to warm up to produce full light. Great for the long nights in MInnesota winters. Bulbs that are turned on and off frequently burn out quickly, another common problem for cfl&#039;s. RIP cfl,s and good riddance. LED&#039;s will rule. The costs will come down when demand mass production kicks in, think flat screen TV;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a student in the lab who quite accidently figured out how to make a LED produce a nice white light. Previously only a colored light was possible. LED&#8217;s are every where. Cars, computers, toasters, appliances, playstations, dvd players, got an appliance with a small light, it&#8217;s probably a LED. 2 years ago I changed every light bulb in my house with a cfl (over 70) including lamps, and monitored my electric bill. There was no change in kilowatts consumed. I compared 2 years of electric bills, yes I am a nerd. The bulbs in ceiling fixtures that hung upside down started burning out within a month, a common problem. The recessed can bulbs took 2 minutes to warm up to produce full light. Great for the long nights in MInnesota winters. Bulbs that are turned on and off frequently burn out quickly, another common problem for cfl&#8217;s. RIP cfl,s and good riddance. LED&#8217;s will rule. The costs will come down when demand mass production kicks in, think flat screen TV;s</p>
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		<title>By: DBNinKY</title>
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		<dc:creator>DBNinKY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DBNinKY</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/29/gorebulbs-rendered-obsolete/comment-page-1/#comment-390274</link>
		<dc:creator>DBNinKY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;America can solve problems once it faces them. We can solve global warming too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

America can solve any problem confronting her, that is true, but only once the problem is defined. 

Global warming is remains unproven and subject to doubt. Americans cannot solve problems that defy subjection to the basic tenent of the scientific method: definition. In short, we can&#039;t solve problems that have not been proven empirically to exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>America can solve problems once it faces them. We can solve global warming too.</p></blockquote>
<p>America can solve any problem confronting her, that is true, but only once the problem is defined. </p>
<p>Global warming is remains unproven and subject to doubt. Americans cannot solve problems that defy subjection to the basic tenent of the scientific method: definition. In short, we can&#8217;t solve problems that have not been proven empirically to exist.</p>
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		<title>By: OneofThem</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/29/gorebulbs-rendered-obsolete/comment-page-1/#comment-390183</link>
		<dc:creator>OneofThem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember an episode of &lt;i&gt;Mythbusters&lt;/i&gt; where they tested the myth that leaving lights on uses less electricity than if you turn them on and off over the course of the day (which was busted, of course). They tested the myth with a whole bunch of different bulbs, including an incandescent bulb, a CFL and an LED cluster bulb. The LED cluster bulb whooped the others when it came to power consumption, but I was disappointed to learn that LED cluster bulbs were expensive to buy. Let&#039;s hope this changes things a bit, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember an episode of <i>Mythbusters</i> where they tested the myth that leaving lights on uses less electricity than if you turn them on and off over the course of the day (which was busted, of course). They tested the myth with a whole bunch of different bulbs, including an incandescent bulb, a CFL and an LED cluster bulb. The LED cluster bulb whooped the others when it came to power consumption, but I was disappointed to learn that LED cluster bulbs were expensive to buy. Let&#8217;s hope this changes things a bit, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: CO2 Producer</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/29/gorebulbs-rendered-obsolete/comment-page-1/#comment-390111</link>
		<dc:creator>CO2 Producer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Congress is banning the sale of incandescent bulbs and shoving CFL&#039;s down our throats, while technology and the marketplace --- not government intervention --- may soon give us affordable LED&#039;s.

I think Congress owes my throat &lt;a href=&quot;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/29/what-should-the-house-apologize-for/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an apology&lt;/a&gt;.

Time to stock up on the incandescents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Congress is banning the sale of incandescent bulbs and shoving CFL&#8217;s down our throats, while technology and the marketplace &#8212; not government intervention &#8212; may soon give us affordable LED&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I think Congress owes my throat <a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/29/what-should-the-house-apologize-for/" rel="nofollow">an apology</a>.</p>
<p>Time to stock up on the incandescents.</p>
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		<title>By: ArizonaNeanderthal</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/29/gorebulbs-rendered-obsolete/comment-page-1/#comment-390078</link>
		<dc:creator>ArizonaNeanderthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On July 29th, 2008 at 3:10 pm, &lt;strong&gt;dan708&lt;/strong&gt; said: 
The only thing that drives me nuts about the tree-huggers is that they don’t know what they want. Use clean energy BUT don’t construct windmills; they kill the little birdies. Use CFL’s BUT don’t throw them out; they contain mercury.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Send all broken and burned out CFLs to the Algore-lgm Group.
I put some CFLs into lamps that stay on all night. They have to be 5/6 years old and I never had a problem. But that was my decision Algore, and only because I do not know they had mercury.
&lt;blockquote&gt;On July 29th, 2008 at 12:17 pm, &lt;strong&gt;ajmontana &lt;/strong&gt;said: 
I hereby take an oath not to even dignify a response or slam on one of lgm’s moronic posts.

ajmontana&lt;/blockquote&gt;You are a Man among Men and a Hero to Us All and lgm isn&#039;t. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
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Allie OOP OOP 2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On July 29th, 2008 at 3:10 pm, <strong>dan708</strong> said:<br />
The only thing that drives me nuts about the tree-huggers is that they don’t know what they want. Use clean energy BUT don’t construct windmills; they kill the little birdies. Use CFL’s BUT don’t throw them out; they contain mercury.</p></blockquote>
<p>Send all broken and burned out CFLs to the Algore-lgm Group.<br />
I put some CFLs into lamps that stay on all night. They have to be 5/6 years old and I never had a problem. But that was my decision Algore, and only because I do not know they had mercury.</p>
<blockquote><p>On July 29th, 2008 at 12:17 pm, <strong>ajmontana </strong>said:<br />
I hereby take an oath not to even dignify a response or slam on one of lgm’s moronic posts.</p>
<p>ajmontana</p></blockquote>
<p>You are a Man among Men and a Hero to Us All and lgm isn&#8217;t. Not that there is anything wrong with that.<br />
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Allah be Praised<br />
Allie OOP OOP 2</p>
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		<title>By: dan708</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan708</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing that drives me nuts about the tree-huggers is that they don&#039;t know what they want. Use clean energy BUT don&#039;t construct windmills; they kill the little birdies. Use CFL&#039;s BUT don&#039;t throw them out; they contain mercury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing that drives me nuts about the tree-huggers is that they don&#8217;t know what they want. Use clean energy BUT don&#8217;t construct windmills; they kill the little birdies. Use CFL&#8217;s BUT don&#8217;t throw them out; they contain mercury.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianNY</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianNY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is encouraging to see problems solved by technology.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Agreed.
&lt;blockquote&gt;If we imposed a carbon tax of $5/gal on gas, you can bet that technology would develop pretty fast.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You lost me. I contend that creativity is most effectively fostered through freedom and encouragement, not through punishment.  Think of it like parenting.
&lt;blockquote&gt;America can solve problems once it faces them. We can solve global warming too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Except that the globe has actually been cooling for the past eight years, and the computer models upon which the UN based its &quot;scientific&quot; studies (the ones that predict a 1-2 degree uptick in earth temperature over the next 100 years) have now been critically assessed as misapplied, and that a large professional organization of scientists has just reversed its position on man-made global warming, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is encouraging to see problems solved by technology.</p></blockquote>
<p>Agreed.</p>
<blockquote><p>If we imposed a carbon tax of $5/gal on gas, you can bet that technology would develop pretty fast.
</p></blockquote>
<p>You lost me. I contend that creativity is most effectively fostered through freedom and encouragement, not through punishment.  Think of it like parenting.</p>
<blockquote><p>America can solve problems once it faces them. We can solve global warming too.</p></blockquote>
<p>Except that the globe has actually been cooling for the past eight years, and the computer models upon which the UN based its &#8220;scientific&#8221; studies (the ones that predict a 1-2 degree uptick in earth temperature over the next 100 years) have now been critically assessed as misapplied, and that a large professional organization of scientists has just reversed its position on man-made global warming, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On July 29th, 2008 at 10:57 am, oldcollegeguy1980 said: 
The answer is all in the math. If I can save money I will adopt the new technologies. 

I will not simply jump on board for some so-called higher purpose. if a technology is viable it will win in the marketplace. 

In fact I am researching solar technology for my vacation home. As well as geo-thermal. So far it looks promising. 

Good Math makes life more fun.

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;You forget one thing. Congress will chose for you, economics be dammed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On July 29th, 2008 at 10:57 am, oldcollegeguy1980 said:<br />
The answer is all in the math. If I can save money I will adopt the new technologies. </p>
<p>I will not simply jump on board for some so-called higher purpose. if a technology is viable it will win in the marketplace. </p>
<p>In fact I am researching solar technology for my vacation home. As well as geo-thermal. So far it looks promising. </p>
<p>Good Math makes life more fun.</p>
<p><strong><em>You forget one thing. Congress will chose for you, economics be dammed.</em></strong></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: ArizonaNeanderthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArizonaNeanderthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On July 29th, 2008 at 12:52 pm, lgm said: 
It is encouraging to see problems solved by technology. If we imposed a carbon tax of $5/gal on gas, you can bet that technology would develop pretty fast. The Prius of today would look like a gas guzzler. 

America can solve problems once it faces them. We can solve global warming too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Who is this &quot;WE&quot; of which you speak? You go putting a heavy tax on gas and this country would fall into one BIG recession/depression.
Trucking company and railroad contracts would all be void with that big a jump; any goods they move would either have a huge increase in price or disappear altogether. Construction, Manufacturing and such would be toast.
Unemployment  would jump through the roof and government service would collapse due the fall of Income and Social Security taxes. The fall in sales taxes would collapse local and state governments.
Let the government in the mix and you will have chaos, which might be a good thing.
Hell lgm, you just might be on to something. But in ten years come back and tell me about global warming. The &#039;discredited&#039; global &lt;strong&gt;cooling&lt;/strong&gt; model is the one you want to watch, If the Annointed One and His Lardship Algore let you.

And lgm is an idiot.
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Allie OOP OOP 2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On July 29th, 2008 at 12:52 pm, lgm said:<br />
It is encouraging to see problems solved by technology. If we imposed a carbon tax of $5/gal on gas, you can bet that technology would develop pretty fast. The Prius of today would look like a gas guzzler. </p>
<p>America can solve problems once it faces them. We can solve global warming too.</p></blockquote>
<p>Who is this &#8220;WE&#8221; of which you speak? You go putting a heavy tax on gas and this country would fall into one BIG recession/depression.<br />
Trucking company and railroad contracts would all be void with that big a jump; any goods they move would either have a huge increase in price or disappear altogether. Construction, Manufacturing and such would be toast.<br />
Unemployment  would jump through the roof and government service would collapse due the fall of Income and Social Security taxes. The fall in sales taxes would collapse local and state governments.<br />
Let the government in the mix and you will have chaos, which might be a good thing.<br />
Hell lgm, you just might be on to something. But in ten years come back and tell me about global warming. The &#8216;discredited&#8217; global <strong>cooling</strong> model is the one you want to watch, If the Annointed One and His Lardship Algore let you.</p>
<p>And lgm is an idiot.<br />
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Allah be Praised<br />
Allie OOP OOP 2</p>
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