D’oh: McCain donors in Paris Hilton’s family miffed at “Celeb” diss
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Can they do anything right?
The McCain campaign runs a half-decent ad yesterday mocking Obama’s celebrification and comparing the Obamessiah to pop culture divas Britney Spears and Paris Hilton…
…and pisses off the big McCain donors in Paris Hilton’s family. Apparently, Camp McCain’s phones were ringing off the hook with complaints from the wealthy Hiltons who have showered the Maverick with cash. Doesn’t anybody check these things before they upload them to YouTube? The ad would have worked just as well without Paris. A pic of Obama gal pal Scarlett Johannson would have been smarter.
And McCain wouldn’t have lost his own celeb supporters.
Here are Rick Hilton’s $6,900 donations to McCain.
Paris’s mom, Kathy, also pitched in $2,300.
And here are Paris’s grandfather, William Barron Hilton’s, large donations totaling $53,400 to McCain and the NRSC.
D’oh.
Via Martin Eisenstadt (hat tip - Joe S.)
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it seems that the new McCain ad criticizing Obama for being a celebrity has ruffled some unintended feathers. I, for one, quite liked the ad, but I hear whispers from the inner campaign staff that the phone was burning off the hook today with calls from Paris Hilton’s grandfather, William Barron Hilton (co-chair of the Hilton Hotel empire), furious that the McCain ad drew an unflattering comparison between Obama and his own granddaughter.
It seems that the elder Hilton has donated $18,400 to the McCain campaign, and $35,000 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee in the last couple of years. (Paris’s father, Rick Hilton, has given an additional $6,900 to the McCain campaign. Suffice it to say, he’s none too pleased either.)
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Update: Martin Eisenstadt is a hoaxer.
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What do you hope to accomplish, JHSII, now that McCain will be the republican nominee, and he or Obama is guaranteed to be the next president?
Telling the truth about McCain is not attacking him. Occasionally, I see the truth being told about McCain here.
Disagreeing with McCain is what the democrats are doing to McCain right now. How does it feel to be in bed with the democrats on this one?
Trolls are the people who constantly mock McCain and lie about what he says and does. You can see examples of this on the left wing hate mongering websites.
Is this so horrible to wish that we not mirror the left wing hate websites when it comes to the republican candidate?
What do you want to accomplish?
I can tell you that what I want is for Obama to loose.
I agree, Terrig. I think the military and its families are screwed even more. If Obummer cared so much about the military, why didn’t he just acknowledge that the surge worked instead of defaming it and Pres. Bush?
Yeah, we feel the love, don’t we Terrig? Obummer has never worried about political perception before since he looks down his nose at the military (just as Clinton did). He could have fit in a troop visit if he really tried (or cared). I think he’s using the whole political perception as an excuse and it gets tiresome.
McCain has fronted a poor campaign up ’til now but I liked this ad. It wasn’t really an attack ad and it included the issues that Obummer has already owned up to. Obummer just wants McCain to go away because he won’t even accept a few town hall debates with McCain. If Obummer is so confident then why feed the fire? That’s one sure way of doing it.
Okay. Just for the record, let’s review what the definition of an internet “troll” is.
It is not disagreeing with McCain on positions, if they are based in fact.
It is much broader than the senator from Arizona and presumptive Republican presidential nominee.
What someone like lgm does on a regular basis is “trolling” or acting like a “troll”. They drop in, spout of some irrational crap, with no valid proof to back up their assertions, other than left-wing talking points, and then never come back to validate their claims.
I may have myself convinced to hold my nose and vote for McCain as the lesser-of-two-evils this time around. So, give it a rest before you turn those of us off again, by attacking us for our disagreements with him on positions, like illegal immigration, amnesty, etc.
You aren’t doing him any favors by calling someone names.
wise man #101:
Ok, so according to you we are not allowed to EVER diswaree with “our” candidate or else we’re guaranteeing Obama as President?
Where do you get this BS? It’s comments like that that drive supporters of McCain away from supporting him.
We can think for ourselves, you know. No lock-step out here.
I see it all the time. I guess that depends on what you want to see.
No they’re not - they are attacking him. If you still don’t know the difference, then maybe you need some remedial schooling.
BTW, can you answer the question I asked Bill Grant?
Trolls are also the people I accurately described them as. “3) the trolls are the ones who are continually whining about any disagreement with McCain or telling the truth about any of McCain’s positions being attacks.”
More BS from you. We don’t mirror left-wing hate websites here.
How about being able to talk here with other Conservatives without being attacked by the likes of you? How about not being force-fed the McCain Kool-Aid?
Then why do you attack Conservatives like me? Do you think that helps McCain’s efforts to become President?
If what you are doing, Barry F., does not fall into this category, then it is not trolling.
I never said that.
My comment at 9:52 am did not attack you, JHSII. My comment at 10:28 am did also, not attack you.
I have seen people here call McCain a “socialist”. I have seen people say that he is no different than Obama.
If that isn’t disinformation, nothing is.
It is precisely that kind of irrational, unsubstantiated garbage coming from MDS folks that I object to. It serves no good purpose.
That’s what I object to.
I get where you’re coming from, Barry. I really respect your honest opinion regarding McCain as well as those of other posters. I may disagree with other posters but I understand where you and others who dislike McCain are coming from. I do know that there are many Conservatives on here who intensely dislike McCain (and I’m one of them) and don’t trust him. I understand why they’re resistant to his candidacy because they (and I) feel he was foisted off on us.
My only concern is out of the folks who do not like McCain and are openly hostile toward him, how many are actually participating in the Democrat version of “operation chaos?” How many are just posing as conservatives to sow seeds of doubt about him to further disunite the Republican party (who’ve done everything to mimic the Dems to get elected).
BTW, Barry, don’t say “crap” or Mathman will spout off again how profanity is regularly used and tolerated just like on his lefty blogs. We wouldn’t want to upset him.
And what I am attempting to say here is similar to what atheling just said.
This is what I object to.
Not everyone who is disagreeing with McCain is doing this,
So please don’t put yourself(JHSII or anyone else reading my words) in that category since I have not tried to label you as anything of the sort.
wise man #106
If you bothered to pay attention before responding you might notice that I specifically said:
and not:
….. what?
wise man #107
According to what you’ve considered to be “attacks” on McCain they sure qualify.
I never said that, AND “according to you” (Ok, so according to you we are not allowed to EVER diswaree with “our” candidate or else we’re guaranteeing Obama as President?) is also incorrect.
Then if you’ve lied about McCain and acted like a democrat in the way you slandered him…
But I didn’t see any of that coming from you, so my comment was not an attack on you if none of your comments fall into that category.
Please don’t be so quick to take offense at comments that are not directed at you, JHSII .
And wise man proves my point. Thanks for playing!
What point did I just prove?
The only one I see is the one where I said that your comments weren’t attacks. ANd that I wasn’t attacking you.
The differences are far from being a stark contrast, in many instances, atheling. I’m not fired up by McCain to get out and work for him. I have, basically, resigned myself to voting for him. But, his positions don’t inspire me. Like emjem, I feel like McCain was “foisted” upon us.
Yes. I know that he got the most votes in the primary. But, that is another argument for another thread and, basically, at this juncture, water under the bridge.
There are some key issues for me on which McCain runs far too close to Obama, such as illegal immigration, meddling in business, closing Guantanamo, etc. I take serious issue with his collaboration with the likes of Feingold, Kennedy, etc. In his favor, he does pose a start contrast on some issues, like finishing the war in Iraq and not bringing out troops home to defeat.
I see McCain as Socialism-Lite versus outright Socialism with Obama. So, in my analysis, McCain is the lesser-of-two-evils from which I have to choose.
I will knock him on things with which I disagree. And, given my reluctant vote this coming November for him, I have a good chuckle, every time I see him make stupid gaffes.
Ok, wise man, please show me where in my original post in this topic where I was specifically referring to you?
startstarkSince you didn’t quote yourself, I assume that you are referring to your comment at 10:14. This came right after my comment. So your comment wasn’t in response to what I said?
Please clarify.
Ugh!…
outourDanged typos
it’s okay, we can read through them.
So, now we know that wise man thinks that this is all about him. No wonder he takes so much offense at anything anyone else says that doesn’t agree with him.
I wonder who this McCain person is. Maybe we could talk about him for a while??
I do not think this is all about me. Why are you doing this?
Again, please clarify, so I can understand you.
wise man #125/126
Ok, what am I doing? Or, what do you think I’m doing?
Well, you are claiming that I think this is all about me, and this is not correct. As was pointed out by atheling at 108, this is also my concern.
wise man - Ok, if it’s not all about you, then why did you respond to my post #100 as if it were directed at you?
I’m not allowed to comment on the post directly after the one I made? And it looked like your #3 was in response to what I just said.
Jeesus, I’m sorry dude. I promise it won’t happen again.
My bad.
Sorry, wise man, but I’m not the one that has set the rule about the post after another one only directly responding to that post - that was you.
Don’t blame me for your problems.
you’re not making sense, JHSII
You are putting words into my mouth. Nowhere did I use the word “stark”.
Are you talking to me? Where did I bring that up? You’re the one who is rambling on about the primaries, not me. And if it belongs on another thread, then it behooves you to keep it there. You’re the one who brought it up, not me, dude.
Now those issues I agree with, completely.
Don’t forget abortion. McCain is starkly different from Obama in protecting the unborn.
Again, no substantiation for the “socialism”. So much for your “analysis”.
I’m holding my nose and voting for him as well. But, I refuse to jump in and make false and unsubstantiated allegations about him. So far, you have not proven a thing regarding the “socialism” issue.
How about it? Got some proof?
You’re the one with the problem, wise man, not me.
Oh, according to wise man’s new rules, I must specifically state that this post is not a response to atheling post #133. At least I hope that is according to wise man’s rules, because I am trying to respond to him and not atheling. hmmm… What happens if I violate wise man’s new posting rules?
If you want to read it, go back through my posts and others over the last year here on Michelle’s site. I don’t sit around with a list of ready links to copy and paste for someone to play catch up.
No. Had I don’t that, I would have put stark in quotes (i.e. “stark”) or actually used the quote feature.
Now, if you…
on the meddling in business, as you say, how do you not see an aspect of socialism creeping in there with McCain’s own claim of obscene profits by oil companies and not really opposing the windfall profits tax, etc.?
It smacks of income redistribution to me. How else would you define it?
I’ll check back.
I don’t know what kind of game you are playing, but I am not interested in helping you out with this.
Thank you, Barry F, for providing me with McCain’s lip service to the resentment of libtards over those who make money.
And has he proposed any action to redistribute income?
Interesting. You post a link to the “DemRapidResponse” video on youtube.
Do you understand the irony of your link? They also want to destroy McCain. And the democrats want Obama to win.
Doesn’t this make you sick in the stomach that you are using a democrat attack video on youtube as your example? It would turn my stomach.
* And - in the video clip, McCain says
So, obscene profits - that’s not what bothers me. It’s the people who distort the market, not windfall profits tax.
Hardly the slam against McCain that those on the left and now right attempt to make it out to be.
BTW, Barry F, you have said nothing about McCain’s pro life record, which is truly a “stark” difference from that of Obama.
What say you?
wise_man:
I find it interesting that MDS folks like BarryF relies on the Dems to support his position.
Pro-life vs. anti-life is a stark contrast, atheling. I never intimated that it wasn’t. Actually, I never intimated anything on it. You did.
But, I would agree that I like pro-life positions.
wise man #136
I’m not the one playing games.
I’m also not the one attacking Conservatives who don’t support McCain as supporting Obama.
No. If it’s an unaltered video, wise_man, why would I care about the source? Really?
Now, had they altered the video with voice-over or any other technique, I would have a problem with it.
As I have insinuated, I plan to vote for McCain in November. I don’t have to be happy about it and won’t be happy about it. I will only do so to try to keep Obama out of office. Be happy with that.
It is not McCain Derangement Syndrome (MDS) on my part. He is an atrocious option for me. But, he is less atrocious to me than Obama, hence, lesser-of-two-evils for me.
You are the one that keeps saying that we have to vote for McCain or we are helping Obama. Well, I have told myself I need to vote for McCain. Leave it at that.
If I choose to voice my discontent with McCain, I can still do that. If atheling, you or anyone else wants to scream “MDS!” every time I voice my discontent, you are still able to do that. I suggest keeping it copied to your clipboard so you can just paste it more easily and save some typing, because I am not the only one discontented with the lack of an option this election year.
You are being intentionally obtuse. But whatever. And I am not attacking conservatives. And in this election, now that the primaries are over, I will ask again, what do you or anyone else attempt to accomplish by trashing McCain?
What difference does it make now, 3 months before the election and the week before the election?
What are you trying to do? The election is down to to people, and so many here still think that the primaries are still open. You won’t get Huck. You won’t get Fred! Your guy lost, and McCain is the nominee.
In the last 7 years, I;ve read from liberals who constantly harped about Bush, “hes not my president.”
ANd even if Obama wins, he’ll be my president. But until the election is decided, it’s either Obama or McCain. Trashing Obama for his man legitimate failings makes sense. Trashing McCain doesnt seem to make any sense. What are you trying to accomplish?
I find it “interesting” that you are willing to turn a blind eye to the obvious shortcomings of McCain. But, there again, that is your choice. Whereas, mine is to talk about them.
But, I am equal opportunity. I have no problem hammering away at Obama’s multiple short-comings, gaffes, etc. as the opportunity presents itself.
“I am not the only one discontented with the lack of an option this election year.”
Yeah. Tell me about it. I voted for Romney, because I thought he would be the best choice for a battle between Hillary or Obama. ANd now the republican primaries are over, and it’s McCain. And he got more votes. Sucks. But if all of this bashing of McCain would lead to the republican delegates dumping him, then I might be fore this. But I don’t see this behavior as being or having any positive effect.
What I do know is - is that the democrats want Obama to win. And I don’t want to help them out. I want them to loose. If you want to vote for McCain, and then trash him here every day, then I can’t stop you. I can voice my opinion that this is self-destructive. I get the feeling that some people want McCain to loose, so that after 4 years of Obama, then a better candidate will arrive.
It’s speculation. That’s all.
“I find it “interesting” that you are willing to turn a blind eye to the obvious shortcomings of McCain.” I am doing nothing of the kind.
I know exactly what McCain is doing and saying. I just don’t choose to participate in the unhinged behavior of others here who seem to want to vilify him for no good reason.
I’m hoping for a really good VP pick, wise_man. That might help him out with a shunned base and I expect McCain to be a one-termer, if he wins in November. That may be your guy from the primary, Romney. It may not. Who knows? I don’t think even McCain knows if he wants to acquiesce that much for the base. But, he might.
Then, acknowledge them. Keeping quiet doesn’t make them any less real. It doesn’t mean you can’t vote for him in November. I have resigned myself to voting for him.
It doesn’t have to be “unhinged.” It can be keeping it real and letting him know that people aren’t fooled.
I think that McCain would make an adequate pick for VP. Anyway, If McCain picks someone completely worthless, then I might just join the other camps and hope for a better choice in 4 years. Its just that - it would have to be a really horrible pick to make that happen.
If he wins, I really hope that McCain only does one term. But when I look back at 2000, I see that we were better off with Bush than Al Gore. And I really don’t think that Kerry would be done great things if he were president. The surge would never have happened, and Iraq would be an absolute hell hole now, instead of the conditions that are there now. None of that would be possible with out Bush.
And if Obama were to be presidnet, how do you think his actions would be to international crisis, and where would that take us? I sincerely hope we don’t find out.
I would rather now have the opportunity to see what an Obama presidency would look like either.
Just out of curiosity, where is the dividing line on good and bad VP picks out of the names that have been floated, so far?
Calling McCain a socialist and claiming that McCain is just like Obama is more of the ‘unhinged’ that I was thinking about.
Bringing up what McCain does that people disagree with, now that he’s going to be the nominee doesn’t seem to serve any beneficial purpose. Sure, he makes crappy decisions on immigration. We knew that. Unless there is a way to get McCain to become more conservative such as fred or something like that.
Good and Bad VP picks?
Um, I’m not at all qualified to say with any authority because I havent been following that as much … I think that a very strong conservative VP would make the choice for McCain a lot easier to take. And Palin & Jindal sound like very conservative people with experience, and they are diverse. Nothing wrong with that. If McCain picks on old white guy, I don’t see that as much of a benefit, even if the man is extremely qualified.
In one scenario, If Obama would win the election, I’d rather thatRomney not ne McCain’s VP. I’d like to see Romney go up against Obama in 4 years. (or any other good conservative) As what happened to John Edwards, it seems that being on the losing ticket is not something that you want to see yourself in.
Please tell me your opinion of the VP picks.
No being obtuse from me, wise man. Why don’t you try reading what I actually post?
Correction: “I’d rather that Romney not be McCain’s VP.”
Okay. Just to make sure we keep my quotes accurate, I called McCain “Socialist-Lite” and Obama the “Socialist”.
As for VP selection, I like Palin and Jindal. But, I think they are too early in their political careers to offer too much to the campaign. I would like to see them running for a high national office in the future, maybe even POTUS. I have heard people throw J.C. Watts’ name out there. I like Watts. And, even with what he could bring to the ticket in conservative positioning, minority votes, etc. I don’t think he would take it.
I agree on Romney. It does concern me that a candidate like him that could be viable in 2012 or later could be tarnished now, much like Edwards, as you noted, on the Dem side from 2004.
I certainly don’t want to see Graham or Crist or anyone even remotely like them join the ticket.
What scare the crap out of me is that McCain will try something stupid like Joe Lieberman (Democrat-turned-Independent) as his running mate. But, I really don’t think McCain is that stupid. But, I could be surprised, I guess.
However, I suspect Romney is the front-runner in the possibilities. My question is, does Romney really want it or does he think it will put him on the outs with the GOP establishment, if he didn’t seem interested in it.
Huckabeee? Pffft! I don’t think he has a snowball’s chance of being chosen and wouldn’t be a good addition anyways. What would he bring to the ticket.
Jindal says he’s not interested.
Barry F., someone else mentioned this. Something to consider
and this
JC Watts said he is voting for Obama. I guess tribe takes precedence over country.
Bobby Jindal is wasted as a VP. Let him do his job in Louisiana for now, and then in four or eight years he can run as POTUS.
On August 1st, 2008 at 1:32 pm, Barry F. said:
Sure, but using Paris Hilton as an example of someone who is a useless media creation and unqualified to become president of the United States is not a “McCain shortcoming”.
(It could be argued that it is unfair to Paris Hilton because unlike Obama she is not trying to get a job that she is completely unqualified for. She is actually good at being a spoiled skank and Barry isn’t even an effective senator yet.)
We are less then 100 days out from the election. I am amazed that this is still an issue. If there hasn’t been enough examples of the stark differences between these 2 candidates I don’t know what it is going to take to push some off the fence.
Principled criticisms of McCain’s positions and pointing out areas where he needs to be pushed is one thing but taking him to task because he didn’t maintain a respectful tone toward Paris Hilton is just lame and stupid. It isn’t an “attack” to say so.
Jindal saying no to the VP slot?
I like him even more - thats a smart play. A real conservative does not want to be associated with a person like McCain, who disdains conservatives.
But Watts voting Obama?
Please Substantiate this. Prove it - I have not seen it, only an peopel saying he woudl consider it, and that according to a second hand quote on BET.
I have seen this:
Feb. 24, 2008
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal
That’s not exactly a ringing endorsement of Obama.
Also, this was posted in the WOrldnet Daily interview 16 June, that I beleive proves you may be mistaken - he didn’t endorse Obama, he just didnt endorse McCain either (like many here).
Its more AP lies and distortion to help Obama apparently - or else Watts is trying to wiggle out of it.
However, if Watts (or any other black conservative like Armstrong Williams) does indeed back Obama after all that, then I greatly misjudged him being conservative.
Saying that you don’t like someone’s policies but that you still have to think seriously about voting for them is a dead givaway that you have abandoned your principles — and your conservatism.
Let me tell you what this means. If Watts (or any other black conservative) is going for Obama in spite of Watt’s conservative convictions, then he has let race triumph over principles - which means he is a racist.
Plain and simple - letting skin color guide you instead of doing what youe beleive in, abandoning what you know is right, is the very definition of racism. Its all there in black and white.