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How we know immigration enforcement is working–part II

By see-dubya  •  August 1, 2008 09:45 AM

Switching down from the macro scale of the previous immigration post, here’s a micro look in the Ontario, CA Daily Bulletin at a healthy trend in ICE enforcement–doing an end run around sanctuary city policies.

Apparently some illegal alien criminals showed up for their work-release program, after being sentenced for committing misdemeanors in California, and found the federales waiting for them:

The 32 men arrested Saturday morning at the Glen Helen Rehabilitation Center were participating in a county work release program as an alternative to serving time in jail.

The illegal immigrants were previously convicted of misdemeanor offenses in the United States, including driving under the influence, driving without a license, reckless driving and possession of drugs for sale, federal officials said.

Their arrests come as a result of a sweeping program in which local and federal authorities work together to find, apprehend and deport illegal immigrant criminals.

As in the case below, we know this is working because it’s getting a squawk out of the “Immigrant-rights advocates” criminal illegal alien advocates, who claim these folks weren’t violent.

It’s the way these things go–when an effective policy crops up the open borders lobby huffs and snorts. After the Agriprocessors raid in Iowa, the WSJ asked rhetorically whether we felt any safer.

They won’t dare ask that in: with illegal drunk drivers and drug dealers shipped out the door, of course we’re safer. Here’s ICE spokesman Virginia Kice, who sounds like she gets it:

“Someone may say that misdemeanor violations should not be a priority, but there is a very real possibility they could go out and commit a more serious offense that has heartbreaking consequences for the community,” Kice said. “What if a person who has a DUI conviction gets behind the wheel several months from now and has an accident that claims the life of several innocent victims? Why would we allow that to happen?”

Why, indeed? Cheap lettuce? The criminal illegal alien advocacy lobby is going to need to come up with a better rejoinder than that. These are not sympathetic characters they’re defending. It’s one thing to post a tearjerking photo-op of a deportee who had been working quietly and staying out of trouble, but when illegal alien advocates defend drunk drivers and dope dealers their support may start to erode.

After all, that might have been the next Edwin Ramos they just deported.

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  1. #1
    On August 1st, 2008 at 9:52 am, Rob said:

    I will know we have successfully dealt with the Mexican criminals when I don’t have to hear “push 1 for English”, when the signs in the stores are no longer in Spanish, etc…in other words, when pigs fly.

  2. #2
    On August 1st, 2008 at 9:53 am, tre said:

    criminal illegal alien advocates, who claim these folks weren’t violent.

    The history of crime clearly shows that if we tolerate “non-violent” crime, then violent crime follows.
    Rudy Guiliani reduced violent crime in New York by punishing “non-violent” crime.

    Also, just what kind of crime WOULD it take before those illegal alien advocates speak up about it? More innocent Ameicans getting killed by MS13 members?

  3. #3
    On August 1st, 2008 at 9:58 am, DBNinKY said:

    “…when illegal alien advocates defend drunk drivers and dope dealers their support may start to erode.”

    One may only hope!

  4. #4
    On August 1st, 2008 at 10:02 am, srhoades said:

    “What if a person who has a DUI conviction gets behind the wheel several months from now and has an accident that claims the life of several innocent victims? Why would we allow that to happen?”

    I’m just waiting for Geraldo or one of his ilk to say, “Drunk driving isn’t limited to just ‘immigrants’. Should we deport the non-immigrants who drive drunk too?” I just know that at least one of them will play that card, the only question is when (if they haven’t already).

  5. #5
    On August 1st, 2008 at 10:08 am, jhn1 said:

    That is OK.
    A certain Senator from New Jersey has a “Secret hold” on the bill to reauthorize the E-Verify program that has been so effective in allowing those employers who actually want to only hire legal employees to find out which ones were or were not.

  6. #6
    On August 1st, 2008 at 10:09 am, DBNinKY said:

    I’m just waiting for Geraldo or one of his ilk to say, “Drunk driving isn’t limited to just ‘immigrants’.

    Even if Geraldo doesn’t say it on air today, I’m sure LGM or Rusty will be along shortly to make that point here; they always, always do.

  7. #7
    On August 1st, 2008 at 10:12 am, swmbo said:

    We already have more than enough Americans to take the place of illegal drunk drivers, illegal drug pushers, illegal murderers and rapists. We do not need to import them from other countries.

    So send the illegals home, build a fence and let our own home grown criminals have center stage again.

  8. #8
    On August 1st, 2008 at 10:19 am, twiggman said:

    What part of illegal don’t they get..Them being here is illegal enough for me…

  9. #9
    On August 1st, 2008 at 10:24 am, JDinTX said:

    I agree with twiggman. Being here is illegal. What part of that sounds like it is O.K.? Anyone that is illegal should be deported no matter where they are from. We should not be making differences between felony and misdemeanor.

  10. #10
    On August 1st, 2008 at 10:29 am, pueblo1032 said:

    The main problem with advocates of illegals is their ability to ignore the first crime. It’s as though it doesn’t exist. In country illegally??? Phony ID??? Identity theft??? To the advocate these are not CRIMES. So it is only a small step to ignore more serious crimes.. Drunk driving, no biggie, dealing drugs, no biggie… See no explanation needed…

  11. #11
    On August 1st, 2008 at 10:37 am, bradley said:

    For what it’s worth, I haven’t see ANY proof of “cheap labor” leading to “low cost produce”. Lettuce is around $1.50 a head (iceberg) and other kinds are even higher. Vidalia onions run nearly $1 each, and tomatoes in the $3+ a pound area. So WHERE are the huge “savings” we’re supposed to be getting by allowing these illegals to prosper at our expense?

  12. #12
    On August 1st, 2008 at 10:47 am, Rob said:

    bradley said: For what it’s worth, I haven’t see ANY proof of “cheap labor” leading to “low cost produce”.

    LET’S FORCE THE OIL COMPANIES TO USE THE ILLEGAL LABOR! The prices should come plunging down….

  13. #13
    On August 1st, 2008 at 10:56 am, twofoot said:

    What if? What if? It’s not a matter of “what if”. It’s happening! Every few months we hear about another tragic accident involving an illegal. Always with idiots like Geraldo making some nonsensical argument along the lines of, “Well, they hadn’t broken any laws up to the point they drove drunk and slaughtered the minivan with the family in it.”

    What they never seem to be able to understand though-or more appropriately, what they willfully ignore-is the fact that if that particular illegal invader had been deported, he never would have had the chance to slaughter the family.

    “What if” makes me want to puke.

  14. #14
    On August 1st, 2008 at 11:01 am, simcoe said:

    What would it take to cause you to leave your country? Everything there is familiar and comfortable.

    Does anyone really think these illegals left their home countries because they had such deep family and neighborhood roots.

    Being from a part of the world as corrupt as Jimmy Buffet’s Banana Republics, why does anyone think their morals would instantly change at the border just because the United States has particular laws? Not only are they federal felons, as disinterested as they are in assimilation, they live here the same way they lived back home.

  15. #15
    On August 1st, 2008 at 11:05 am, Polar said:

    I will know we have successfully dealt with the Mexican criminals when I don’t have to hear “push 1 for English”, when the signs in the stores are no longer in Spanish….

    My local megabuildingsupply stores all have huge spanish signs, causing me to go more and more to the locally-owned stores, which don’t. As I live about as far as you can from spanish-speaking centers, who exactly are they trying to please? Since when did spanish become our 2nd National language of choice?

  16. #16
    On August 1st, 2008 at 11:06 am, Reg.conservative said:

    I think Geraldo, and Hernandez,are brothers. They sound just like each other.

  17. #17
    On August 1st, 2008 at 11:24 am, HeatherRadish said:

    For what it’s worth, I haven’t see ANY proof of “cheap labor” leading to “low cost produce”.

    The labor is becoming more and more irrelevant with advances in automated harvesting technology. Like the internal combustion engine eliminated the need for horses in food production, robots and and AI are going to eliminate the need for illegal farm workers.

    Viva capitalism. :)

  18. #18
    On August 1st, 2008 at 11:30 am, John Ansell said:
  19. #19
    On August 1st, 2008 at 11:37 am, rambler said:

    I’m with ya Rob #1!
    jhn1 #5, that certain NJ Senator, who collected money for his campaign from the Florida Cuban community and annoyed the DNC by using more money than expected to win that seat, responded to my email requests with “gee aren’t you racist” and “lack compassion for my voting constituents”. I can’t wait for his next election campaign.

  20. #20
    On August 1st, 2008 at 11:50 am, Weary Citizen said:

    On August 1st, 2008 at 10:37 am, bradley said:

    The real problem with their “cheap produce” argument is that only around 6% of the cost of the produce in the store is actual field labor cost. The rest is land, machinery, transportation, fuel, chemicals, processing, etc. So even if you doubled the wages of farm workers to draw in US workers, your price at the stor would go up by only 6%. that’s it. I would pay $2.12 vs $2.00 per head of lettuce if it got rid of the illegal alien element.

  21. #21
    On August 1st, 2008 at 11:55 am, Rob said:

    My only concern is out of the folks who do not like McCain and are openly hostile toward him, how many are actually participating in the Democrat version of “operation chaos?

    You want to talk CHAOS?? Look at the chaos that McAmnesty wants… These children of God are coming to a city near you soon.

    Los Angles Most Wanted

    San Diego Most Wanted

    San Francisco Most Wanted

    Salinas Most Wanted

    Mendecino County

    And McAmnesty’s great shamnisty plan for God’s children marches on……..

  22. #22
    On August 1st, 2008 at 11:58 am, Gabe said:

    It might be working in some areas of the country but not in the Washington area. Drive down Little River Turnpike in Annandale, Virginia between Little River Shopping Center and the 7-11: There are at least 400 or so illegals lined up along that stretch every day looking for work.

    If ICE cannot even bust illegals just miles from their headquarters, what makes us think they can enforce the law nationwide?

    If they were TRULY serious, they would go after landlords renting to illegals and make it illegal to rent to someone who is here illegally. Then they would go after these apartment complexes, such as the ones in Annandale that are filled with illegals.

  23. #23
    On August 1st, 2008 at 12:08 pm, emjem24 said:

    criminal illegal alien advocates, who claim these folks weren’t violent.

    Yeah, tell that to Mrs. Bologna who just lost her husband and two sons in San Franscisco to a illegal, inhuman, criminal thug.

    These advocates only care about feeling good about themselves and these thugs. It is despicable that people speak up for these people and act like they’re not doing damage to our country with cases like Mrs. Bologna that say otherwise.

  24. #24
    On August 1st, 2008 at 1:13 pm, DiamondMair said:

    Color me blonde, but ……………….

    “The illegal immigrants were previously convicted of misdemeanor offenses in the United States, including driving under the influence, driving without a license, reckless driving and possession of drugs for sale, federal officials said.”

    HOW does CA justify allowing drug dealers to be sentenced under misdemeanor guidelines?

    Semper Bemused
    DM

  25. #25
    On August 1st, 2008 at 1:18 pm, starlightwoman said:

    boo fricken hoo!

  26. #26
    On August 1st, 2008 at 1:31 pm, KaosKlerik said:

    On August 1st, 2008 at 11:58 am, Gabe said:
    It might be working in some areas of the country but not in the Washington area. Drive down Little River Turnpike in Annandale, Virginia between Little River Shopping Center and the 7-11: There are at least 400 or so illegals lined up along that stretch every day looking for work.

    I sent the story to MM, it didn’t get mentioned. Virginia is now the first to crack-down on criminal-illegals statewide.

  27. #27
    On August 1st, 2008 at 1:52 pm, swmbo said:

    GEE HAW, go Virginia. See-dub has already done some good and he isn’t even unpacked yet.

  28. #28
    On August 1st, 2008 at 1:53 pm, abstractmind said:

    If they were TRULY serious, they would go after landlords renting to illegals and make it illegal to rent to someone who is here illegally.

    some municipalities have done this on their own…i know that there’s a town in pennsylvania that did, and Flower Mound, Texas did as well…they’re up against alot of legal challenges as illegal immigrant supporters try to buckle the new laws.

  29. #29
    On August 1st, 2008 at 1:58 pm, flenser said:

    HOW does CA justify allowing drug dealers to be sentenced under misdemeanor guidelines?

    They’re part of an oppressed minority.

  30. #30
    On August 1st, 2008 at 10:08 pm, Doctor Hook said:

    A new song of the South.
    Old: Dixieland
    New: Mexiland

    Oh I wish I was in the south of L.A.
    Hangin’ out with my friend esse’
    Look away! Look away!
    Look away! Border man

    In Mexico where I was born in
    Deportin’ me there in the mornin’
    Look away! Look away!
    Look away! Border man

    I wish I was in Mexifornia
    Ole’ Ole’
    In South L.A. I’ll take my stand,
    Selling tamales rolled by hand!
    Ole’ Ole’
    Ole’ South L.A.

    Hanging out at Home Depot,
    Dude needs yard work, Mucho Gusto!
    Look away! Look away!
    Look away! Border man

    Got no insurance for my car
    Take my sick kid to the E.R.
    Look away! Look away!
    Look away! Border man

    Hop a fence, swim a river,
    Pay a coyote, get back quicker!
    Look away! Look away!
    Look away! Border man

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