Rock the House: What should Republicans do now? It’s on…Culberson: Every day on the House floor this week

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 3, 2008 07:43 AM

Scroll down for updates…10:00am Eastern Monday 8/4…GOP Rep. John Culberson is Qikking the Revolt, Pt II now…go here…Mike Pence right now: “What you are about to witness is the beginning of a sustained effort to demand that Speaker Pelosi bring Congress back to Washington DC and give us an up and down vote on an energy bill that includes more access to American oil”…Culberson: “House conservatives will be on the floor every day this week”…Boehner live blog here….

Pelosi digs in: “House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Sunday maintained a hard-line stance against offshore drilling and said GOP efforts on the floor to push her toward a vote was [a] “war dance of the hand maidens of the oil companies.”

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“Hit hard, hit fast, hit often.”

That was the advice Marine hero Chesty Puller gave his men.

That’s the advice congressional Republicans should follow.

On Friday, GOP members led a revolt on the floor that rocked the House, energized the conservative base, humiliated the feckless Democrat majority, and brought visiting tourists to their feet cheering in the gallery. (Oh, and not coincidentally on Friday afternoon, Barack Obama followed John McCain and flip-flopped on offshore drilling. If you lead, conservatives, the flip-floppers will follow.)

While Do-Nothing Nancy Pelosi jetted off on her pathetically-performing “Know Your Power” book tour and Democrats adjourned for a five-week recess, scores of Republican congressional representatives stayed on Capitol Hill–or rushed back in shorts with suitcases still in hand — to press for votes on energy independence and drilling. Though Pelosi turned the lights out on the House floor, Republicans got their message out–via Twitter, Qik, the blogosphere, talk radio, and grumbly MSM types who derided the upstart effort as “bizarre.”

Leave it to Beltway snob journalists to call House Republicans who refuse to take vacations while the public’s business goes unfinished “bizarre.”

One of my favorite moments from Friday’s revolt:

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) just pretended to be a Democrat. He stood on the other side of the chamber and listed all of the GOP bills that the Dems killed.

He then said, “I am a Democrat, and here is my energy plan” and he held up a picture of an old VW Bug (correction: readers are telling me it’s an Isetta) with a sail attached to it. He paraded around the House floor with the sign while the crowd cheered.

The sign via Jim Hoft:

Dead on.

So, now what?

House Republicans hit hard and hit fast on Friday. Come Monday, they need to hit again and hit often during the Democrats’ vacation.

Mark Tapscott at the Examiner thinks Friday was a missed opportunity.

But the fight has only just begun.

The House GOP’s 8/1 revolt wasn’t merely good political theater. It was good politics. Politics on offense. Politics the grass-roots can get behind. Energized politics on energy that will galvanize public opinion in the otherwise lazy, dog days of August.

Seems to me House Republicans should be holding a public event every day in Washington from now until the end of the Democrats’ vacation to call attention to Nancy’s anti-drilling intransigence and her refusal to hold votes on the issue. Work in shifts. Whatever it takes. But every House Republican should clock in at some point during the Democrats’ vacation and take a stand for energy independence now, not later.

Can’t speak on the House floor? Hold a sit-in on the Capitol steps. Or at a local gas station. Bring those kerosene lamps or Bic lighters. Pass out postcards with Rep. Devin Nunes’ satirical sign.

Bring some tire pumps, while you’re at it, and mock the Obama tire-inflation-as-planet saving energy plan:

And make sure to videotape it all.

House GOP members should also be spreading the word to their local newspapers and local talk show hosts in their congressional districts to assail Nancy’s gag order and hammer the “Drill now” theme home.

And where’s the RNC? How about sending someone in a chicken costume to trail Nancy Pelosi during her hiatus? As the House Republicans asked repeatedly on Friday: What’s she so afraid of?

On 8/1, the House GOP brought it on.

Keep it going, turn it up, and make sure the American public sees you at work on proactive energy proposals to bring down the Pelosi Premium during the Democrats’ vacation.

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Speaking of the absent Speaker of the House, here’s her book tour schedule during the Democrats’ vacation. The “Impeach Bush” crowd is dogging her on the book publicity trail. Wouldn’t it be good to see protesters at these events pressing her on issues people really care about?

Like Nan says: Know your power. Hit hard, hit fast, hit often.

8/4/2008 John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum Columbia Point
Columbia Point
Boston, MA 02125
617-514-1645 5:30 pm

8/5/2008 Free Library of Philadelphia (Central Library)
Montgomery Auditorium 1901 Vine St.
Philadelphia, PA 19103
215-567-4341 7 pm

8/6/2008 Temple Judea
5500 Granada Blvd.
Miami, FL 33146
305-442-4408 7:30 pm

8/7/2008 Borders Books
612 East Liberty St.
Ann Arbor, MI 48104
734-668-7652 7 pm

8/11/2008 American Jewish University
Gindi Auditorium 15600 Mulholland Dr.
Los Angeles, CA 90077
310-659-3110 7 pm

8/12/2008 Dominican University
Angelico Hall 50 Acacia Avenue
San Rafael, CA 94901
415-927-0960 7 pm

8/13/2008 Forum for Women Entrepreneurs
Oracle Corporation 500 Oracle Pkwy.
Redwood City, CA 94065
415-382-6022 7 pm

8/14/2008 Cowell Theater
Fort Mason Center, Pier 2
San Francisco, CA 94123
415-643-3400×11 7 pm

8/20/2008 Tattered Cover Bookstore
1628 16th Street
Denver, CO 80202
303-436-1070 5:30 pm

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If you’ve got specific suggestions for what House Republicans should do the next five weeks during the Democrats’ vacation, leave them in comments or e-mail.

***

Afternoon update: It’s on! More than a dozen GOP lawmakers committed to carrying the ball tomorrow in D.C. Excellent.

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  1. #201
    On August 4th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, Rusty said:

    I don’t have a problem with an August session. I have a problem with the traditional August session being used for partisan purposes. No one was complaining when the GOP had extended August vacations that lasted longer than the ones we have today.

  2. #202
    On August 4th, 2008 at 12:37 pm, sonofdy said:

    I have a problem with the traditional August session being used for partisan purposes.

    ————-
    I was unaware that only republicans were being hit by the energy crisis.

  3. #203
    On August 4th, 2008 at 12:40 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    As for the “drill now” legislation, haha, good luck with that. The limited benefit we get from drilling won’t be felt by the American consumer for another 10 years, at least. Time isn’t an issue here.

    Why is this a laughing matter? Apparently, you (like most libs) seem to think that Nancy’s obstructionism affects only Republicans and their constituents. You have a Speaker of House who will not allow a bill come up for vote and that is perfectly acceptable to you. Wow!

    Besides, as someone pointed out earlier: every day that we do not drill, is yet another day we are dependent upon foreign oil.

    C’mon Rusty, pretend we are talking about Planned Parenthood – whip out the low-income women need their services card. Low-income people are only of consequence when liberals are driving the agenda….

  4. #204
    On August 4th, 2008 at 12:46 pm, atheling said:

    On August 4th, 2008 at 12:40 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    C’mon Rusty, pretend we are talking about Planned Parenthood – whip out the low-income women need their services card. Low-income people are only of consequence when liberals are driving the agenda….

    Hear, hear! Note that Rusty the misogynist invokes compassion for the poor only when it suits his agenda. But when it doesn’t, he does not give a rat’s a** about those less fortunate than himself.

    Hypocrite!

  5. #205
    On August 4th, 2008 at 12:47 pm, fluffy said:

    I have a problem with the traditional August session being used for partisan purposes.

    It’s political theater, no doubt. It is also a real issue. America has oil that Congress won’t let us extract while gasoline is $4 per gallon.

    The weather is warm now. In a few months, the scary number will be the cost of home heating oil. You think people are annoyed because they can’t go on vacation, just wait until they have their thermostats at 55.

  6. #206
    On August 4th, 2008 at 12:49 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    If we can get them to follow on this, why not see what we can do with regard to other major issues, like the erosion of freedom, etc.

    I see LOTS of potential here!

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  7. #207
    On August 4th, 2008 at 1:20 pm, mdt said:

    Just sent my $$$ donation checks to the RNC and the NRCC – now that they are actually standing up for us…

    We don’t need Hope and Unity, we need conservative and American centered actions on the issues of energy (need more) and immigration (need less). With these two actions, we will achieve balance between supply and demand and lower prices.

  8. #208
    On August 4th, 2008 at 1:27 pm, ConMom said:

    Just called Pelosi’s office and was transferred to her voicemail service. Surprise, her mailbox is “full” and can’t accept any more messages.

    Coward!

  9. #209
    On August 4th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, purplepeep said:

    Rusty said:
    I have a problem with the traditional August session being used for partisan purposes. (followed by the usual irrelevant Rusty Relativism™ )

    Leave Pelosi (spending the Democrat’s 6 week summer vacation trying to desperately unload her bomb of a book) alone!

    I think you got viral video material there, Rusty.

  10. #210
    On August 4th, 2008 at 1:48 pm, abstractmind said:

    And now, with obama flipping the script…
    Where’s you’re Obamessiah now? ;)

  11. #211
    On August 4th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, Dimsdale said:

    On August 4th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, Rusty said:

    I don’t have a problem with an August session. I have a problem with the traditional August session being used for partisan purposes. No one was complaining when the GOP had extended August vacations that lasted longer than the ones we have today.

    Are you implying that the entire time the Congress is in session, they are not being used for partisan purposes?

    Now that’s a stretch!

    With all the partisan investigations, committees etc., that would be a difficult premise to push.

    As for them taking time off, I am usually all for it, as it keeps them from doing any more damage, but the heating season is coming, and I see some huge heating bills in our future. How are the Dems going to look if they drop the ball on this?

    How can you say Pelosi, on her whirlwind book tour, is using “the August recess as a traditional time for reps to meet with her constituents?”

    And let us not forget the grief that Bush got for taking time off in August..

  12. #212
    On August 4th, 2008 at 2:26 pm, 57fender said:

    I’m bored with this Rusty Blog. I’m outta here.

  13. #213
    On August 4th, 2008 at 3:20 pm, rpg1616 said:

    The argument by Democrats that allowing new drilling would not have much of an impact on oil prices is just a smokescreen. Regardless of whether or not it would significantly lower prices, it doesn’t change the fact that there is no good reason NOT to drill for our own oil. There is drilling going on all over the world. Foreign countries are drilling right in our own backyards. Norway is rich in oil revenue from off-shore drilling. Countries like Saudi Arabia must be laughing hysterically at the idea that we have all this oil and refuse to drill for it. This is all because the Dems are beholden to the radical enviro lobby and don’t want new oil and want prices to be high. They would rather we all suffer economically so that a few carribou and fish aren’t unduly disturbed. They hope that if they throw up enough smoke they can push the issue out of the spotlight and take care of their enviro benefactors. This notwithstanding that category 5 hurricanes have passed through our major off-shore drilling areas and not caused any significant environmental damage.

  14. #214
    On August 4th, 2008 at 3:40 pm, LoneRanger said:

    Book tour? This might be the first time in publishing history when the revenues of a book aren’t enough to cover the book tour.

  15. #215
    On August 4th, 2008 at 3:46 pm, Ron Rockstar said:

    Nuncy Botoxi said:

    “war dance of the hand maidens of the oil companies.”

  16. #216
    On August 4th, 2008 at 3:52 pm, Barry F. said:

    As for the “drill now” legislation, haha, good luck with that. The limited benefit we get from drilling won’t be felt by the American consumer for another 10 years, at least. Time isn’t an issue here.

    You need to look at more than just Dem talking points to get your timelines, Rusty. People in the industry are citing a “matter of months”, not years. ;-)

  17. #217
    On August 4th, 2008 at 4:23 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On August 4th, 2008 at 3:52 pm, Barry F. said:
    People in the industry are citing a “matter of months”, not years.

    I’m sure your not so naive that you actually believe that nonsense. Realistically, how long do you think it would take oil from this new off-shore drilling to make it to market?

  18. #218
    On August 4th, 2008 at 4:28 pm, Barry F. said:

    On August 4th, 2008 at 4:23 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    I am more inclined to believe people in the industry. And, the source for your nonsensical views would be?

  19. #219
    On August 4th, 2008 at 4:29 pm, Joy said:

    I wish I had taken a photo. The local Dem headquarters has a sign in the window saying “Save Our Country” with a sillouette of an oil rig with the red circle and slash across it. In words, no drilling and that will save our country… The stupidity in that is astounding but not surprising from a Dem.

    If I get a chance I’ll get a snap of it.

  20. #220
    On August 4th, 2008 at 4:31 pm, Joy said:

    Other Side – If Clinton (the adulterous one) had signed the drill ANWAR bill 13 years ago, we’d have been getting oil for 3 years now. Every moment you put it off, you dig the hole a little deeper and make it harder for this country to stay alive.

  21. #221
    On August 4th, 2008 at 4:32 pm, Senator Phillip Buster said:

    how about showing a picture of a stranded military vehicle, and some cans of motor oil, and point out that our troops and the entire military depend on oil to function, to defend our country.

    the Dems want to tap the strategic reserve, which would further erode our national security.

    by putting the debate in the light of national security, not just lower prices, it would have a more telling and effective message.

  22. #222
    On August 4th, 2008 at 4:32 pm, atheling said:

    Oh for heaven’s sakes, please, NO ONE answer TOS’ stupid question. He/she/it wants to monopolize this thread AGAIN with the same tired bullsh**.

    TOS: You are such a frigging bore. Go somewhere else and babble.

  23. #223
    On August 4th, 2008 at 4:34 pm, Barry F. said:

    On August 4th, 2008 at 4:29 pm, Joy said:

    I wish I had taken a photo. The local Dem headquarters has a sign in the window saying “Save Our Country” with a sillouette of an oil rig with the red circle and slash across it. In words, no drilling and that will save our country… The stupidity in that is astounding but not surprising from a Dem.

    If I get a chance I’ll get a snap of it.

    Yes, Joy. Make sure to preserve that belief of the Democrats with a still photo. It will come back to bite them hard. ;-)

  24. #224
    On August 4th, 2008 at 4:37 pm, Joy said:

    Barry – You’d think with 75% of Americans being on the side of drilling, they’d at least have one brain-cell among them firing enough to not have that in the window! sheesh

  25. #225
    On August 4th, 2008 at 4:38 pm, Barry F. said:

    One would think, Joy. One would think. :lol:

    Where is the Dem HQ you noted?

  26. #226
    On August 4th, 2008 at 4:41 pm, CleanGuy said:

    There are other things besides the oil that the Democrats have been working on! They deserve this break — a break from their socialist agenda!

    http://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/pressreleases?id=0781

    Nice… Use up the emergency stock, then what? More drilling maybe?

  27. #227
    On August 4th, 2008 at 4:42 pm, tgusa said:

    The democrat energy conservation plan to move America forward. They run, well, walk, on biofuels.

  28. #228
    On August 4th, 2008 at 5:03 pm, Joy said:

    Barry – I’ll say after I snap the photo and post it. Otherwise, some troll like ‘other side’ might call and warn them.

  29. #229
    On August 4th, 2008 at 5:12 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On August 4th, 2008 at 4:28 pm, Barry F. said:
    I am more inclined to believe people in the industry. And, the source for your nonsensical views would be?

    Considering it would take 3 years minimum for drilling to even begin, a five-year wait for drilling rigs, and the EIA’s 5 year estimate time to production after leasing…I’ll stick with the estimate of 8-10 years.

  30. #230
    On August 4th, 2008 at 5:16 pm, BrianNY said:

    #223 joy said:

    You’d think with 75% of Americans being on the side of drilling, they’d at least have one brain-cell among them firing enough to not have that in the window! sheesh

    75% of Americans, the majority of Repubs, and a whole bunch of silent Blue Dogs are being held hostage by one congresswoman from San Francisco, currently on a “pseudo-feminism “book tour.

    If this was Newt Gingrich pulling such a stunt, you know the MSMs would be camped out on his mother’s lawn for the entire month of August.

    Regardless, this is a losing issue for dems. I predict that Pelosi, Reid and Obama will have to fall in line on comprehensive domestic drilling before October begins.

    All they’ll have to do is decide on how to rephrase their capitulation, so as not to overexcite their loons on the left.

  31. #231
    On August 4th, 2008 at 5:31 pm, atheling said:

    BrianNY said:

    All they’ll have to do is decide on how to rephrase their capitulation, so as not to overexcite their loons on the left.

    If the GOP wins on this issue, a win which will be popular among many Americans, the Dems will spin it so that they take credit for it. And idiots like lgm, rusty, TOS, et all, will buy it.

  32. #232
    On August 4th, 2008 at 5:33 pm, BrianNY said:

    #216 TOS said:

    Realistically, how long do you think it would take oil from this new off-shore drilling to make it to market?

    Why do you care how long it takes?

  33. #233
    On August 4th, 2008 at 5:34 pm, radio relay said:

    Considering it would take 3 years minimum for drilling to even begin, a five-year wait for drilling rigs, and the EIA’s 5 year estimate time to production after leasing…I’ll stick with the estimate of 8-10 years.

    Oh, you are so right… err left… err whatever.

    Actually, you forgot about the time it would take for the oil to get up to the surface. The time it takes to fill tankers. The time it takes to drive to the gas station. The time to build a gas station…. and last, but not least, the time it takes to dream up new reasons for it to take so long to drill new oil wells and take advantage of oil shale.

    Why, after you tack on all that time, it would be years, and years, and years before anyone would see a change in price of gas. We would all be long dead and our bodies converted to oil and coal before one new oil well could be drilled!

  34. #234
    On August 4th, 2008 at 5:36 pm, ajmontana said:

    TheOtherSide said:
    Considering it would take 3 years minimum for drilling to even begin, a five-year wait for drilling rigs, and the EIA’s 5 year estimate time to production after leasing…I’ll stick with the estimate of 8-10 years.

    lol, they sure did get it going alot faster than that in Iraq…….
    I trust Americans doing the work in our country would and could get rigs flowing in no time at all.
    Geeze we could dig up the great Americans and Imigrants who built this country up the way it is now and get the job done faster than your estimate.

  35. #235
    On August 4th, 2008 at 5:48 pm, BrianNY said:

    #230 said:

    If the GOP wins on this issue, a win which will be popular among many Americans, the Dems will spin it so that they take credit for it.

    Either the dems are going to cooperate in all efforts to increase supply over demand, or they’re not.

    If the majority of American voters pull the dem. lever in ’08, then they will either be saying that rising fuel prices and lower supplies are just fine with them, or that other things are more important than the price of gas.

    One thing they won’t be able to say is that they weren’t offered a clear difference of choice on the issue.

    But I agree with your triangulation theory. Dems are always willing to let the repubs do the heavy lifting before they say, “me too.”

  36. #236
    On August 4th, 2008 at 5:51 pm, Rusty said:

    You have a Speaker of House who will not allow a bill come up for vote and that is perfectly acceptable to you.

    Yes. Perfectly acceptable That’s a big part of the Speaker’s job. No different than when Hastert was running the show.

    I’m not even that bothered by the off-shore drilling legislation and I don’t give that much of a hoot about ANWR. For a liberal, I’m not much of an environmentalist.

    The problem is that the recess has taken on partisan undertones. Michelle Malkin calling this the “Democratic recess” is preposterous. This recess is a tradition. Politicians (and their many underlings, lawyers, and lobbyists) all plan their year around it. It’s no more a Democratic recess than it was a GOP recess between 1995-2008.

  37. #237
    On August 4th, 2008 at 6:01 pm, Senator Phillip Buster said:

    apparently having low income working Americans unable to afford driving to work, or heating their homes is not important to Dems.

    they are so beholden to wacko extremist enviros that they love high gas prices cuz it fits their agenda of doing away with fossil fuels

  38. #238
    On August 4th, 2008 at 6:05 pm, BOB said:

    Wy does it make any difference how long it takes to get new oil flowing?

    Are there some numbskulls out there who think we won’t need the oil whenever we get it? Picture this…..oil flows from ANWR at 1 million barrels per day……feds report, “we are no longer importing any of the 15 million barrels per day of oil we were importing, so we just don’t know what we’ll do with this oil from ANWR”.

    Not drilling because it will “take too long” is one of the most idiotic reasons for not doing the right thing I have ever heard.

    And, the Dem times they use are nothing more than talking points and easily 2-3 times longer than those in the know…..and making drilling the priority it should be would get the oil flowing even quicker.

    DRILL NOW WHEREVER THE OIL IS!!!!

  39. #239
    On August 4th, 2008 at 6:10 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Yes. Perfectly acceptable That’s a big part of the Speaker’s job.

    Got it. I was unaware that her job entailed subverting the will of the American people. Now I know.

  40. #240
    On August 4th, 2008 at 6:26 pm, tgusa said:

    When I was young I got myself in debt. I did some calculations and I figured it would take five or more years to pay it down. No one told me, you can’t work your way out of this but even if they had I would not have believed them. The truth is Nancy wants to save the planet, she let that fact slip over the weekend. She wants to save the planet so her constituents can still have their festivals. After she succeeds and the world is once again safe they will all gather together to urinate on each other and there will be much rejoicing.

  41. #241
    On August 4th, 2008 at 6:46 pm, concretebob said:

    TheOtherSide said:
    Considering it would take 3 years minimum for drilling to even begin, a five-year wait for drilling rigs, and the EIA’s 5 year estimate time to production after leasing…I’ll stick with the estimate of 8-10 years.

    We can build a 750 megawatt clean coal fired power plant in under two years. I know for a fact we could be pumping oil from ANWR in under 2 years, probably less. You underestimate the abilities of the working class of this Nation, of which I am one and I take a great deal of offense at your uneducated assumption. You have no clue what can be done today.
    Secoondly, the mere suggestion that we are going to begin drilling and pumping will create a market scare and the price of crude will drop 50% in less than a week.

  42. #242
    On August 4th, 2008 at 6:51 pm, Barry F. said:

    On August 4th, 2008 at 5:03 pm, Joy said:

    Barry – I’ll say after I snap the photo and post it. Otherwise, some troll like ‘other side’ might call and warn them.

    Understood and agreed, Joy. I can’t wait to find out later where the Dem genius is located that decided to do that. :lol:

  43. #243
    On August 4th, 2008 at 6:51 pm, Boomer said:

    Concretebob I agree if our fumbling political overlords address this threat to our national security and treat it like they did in WWII we could possible see a continuous flow of oil through a connecting pipe line in 18 – 24 months. After all we built the ALCAN Highway in about the same time line under the most hostile weather conditions imaginable I know we could do it again if our dysfunctional Government and the Eco-fascists stay out of the way.

  44. #244
    On August 4th, 2008 at 6:55 pm, Barry F. said:

    On August 4th, 2008 at 5:12 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On August 4th, 2008 at 4:28 pm, Barry F. said:

    Considering it would take 3 years minimum for drilling to even begin, a five-year wait for drilling rigs, and the EIA’s 5 year estimate time to production after leasing…I’ll stick with the estimate of 8-10 years.

    I am banking on the private sector. This isn’t like the government trying to get a fence built. If you turn the private sector loose on it, I believe they could move mountains, both literally and figuratively to make it a reality and quickly.

    But, you think in terms of how inept government goes about getting something done, which would take at least as long as you expect, if not much longer.

    See? Public vs. private. The latter is a can do approach. The prior is a can’t get their finger out of their butt to even get started in a timely manner. ;-)

  45. #245
    On August 4th, 2008 at 7:08 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On August 4th, 2008 at 6:46 pm, concretebob said:
    We can build a 750 megawatt clean coal fired power plant in under two years. I know for a fact we could be pumping oil from ANWR in under 2 years, probably less. You underestimate the abilities of the working class of this Nation, of which I am one and I take a great deal of offense at your uneducated assumption. You have no clue what can be done today.

    Do you also take offense at the uneducated assumption of the EIA who suggests an 8-12 years timeline for ANWR? I don’t underestimate this nation’s abilities, but I also don’t underestimates the realities of government leases and government regulations (which apparently you do). In fact, part of my case against drilling is strictly due to the fact that I have a great respect for the industrious people of this nation who will be able to transform our oil-based energy industry into one of alternative sources in 10-15 years.

    Secoondly, the mere suggestion that we are going to begin drilling and pumping will create a market scare and the price of crude will drop 50% in less than a week.

    Talk about an uneducation assumption!

  46. #246
    On August 4th, 2008 at 7:13 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On August 4th, 2008 at 6:55 pm, Barry F. said:

    See? Public vs. private. The latter is a can do approach. The prior is a can’t get their finger out of their butt to even get started in a timely manner.

    Fair point Barry….but instead of public vs. private, I see it as reality vs. fantasy. My next question is why would big oil companies even want to tap into the OCS or ANWR? Wouldn’t increase supply bring the price down? How much more would the have to sell in order to recoup their lost revenue from the decrease in price?

  47. #247
    On August 4th, 2008 at 7:18 pm, Barry F. said:

    On August 4th, 2008 at 7:13 pm, TheOtherSide said:
    On August 4th, 2008 at 6:55 pm, Barry F. said:

    See? Public vs. private. The latter is a can do approach. The prior is a can’t get their finger out of their butt to even get started in a timely manner.
    Fair point Barry….but instead of public vs. private, I see it as reality vs. fantasy. My next question is why would big oil companies even want to tap into the OCS or ANWR? Wouldn’t increase supply bring the price down? How much more would the have to sell in order to recoup their lost revenue from the decrease in price?

    Much of that price comes from costs demanded from nations not too friendly to the U.S. If it were produced here, the oil companies would still be able to make their profits but, instead of the added cost demanded by nations hostile to U.S. interests, it would be eliminated. And, why would it be in the oil companies’ interests to inflate the price for no reason here and encourage more government intervention and regulation?

    We both know oil companies want to make a good profit. That’s just part of capialism. But, they don’t want to cut off their own nose to spite their face, right?

    Remove OPEC and others and a huge obstacle and portion of the costs are eradicated.

  48. #248
    On August 4th, 2008 at 7:20 pm, Barry F. said:

    Sorry. I forgot to block off quotes and such in that last post. :oops:

    On August 4th, 2008 at 7:13 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On August 4th, 2008 at 6:55 pm, Barry F. said:

    See? Public vs. private. The latter is a can do approach. The prior is a can’t get their finger out of their butt to even get started in a timely manner.

    Fair point Barry….but instead of public vs. private, I see it as reality vs. fantasy. My next question is why would big oil companies even want to tap into the OCS or ANWR? Wouldn’t increase supply bring the price down? How much more would the have to sell in order to recoup their lost revenue from the decrease in price?

    Much of that price comes from costs demanded from nations not too friendly to the U.S. If it were produced here, the oil companies would still be able to make their profits but, instead of the added cost demanded by nations hostile to U.S. interests, it would be eliminated. And, why would it be in the oil companies’ interests to inflate the price for no reason here and encourage more government intervention and regulation?

    We both know oil companies want to make a good profit. That’s just part of capialism. But, they don’t want to cut off their own nose to spite their face, right?

    Remove OPEC and others and a huge obstacle and portion of the costs are eradicated.

  49. #249
    On August 4th, 2008 at 7:21 pm, Barry F. said:

    capialism capitalism

  50. #250
    On August 4th, 2008 at 7:23 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Barry,
    It’s late in the day… we’ll let you slide this time. Tomorrow I expect you to bring the A-game. ;-)

  51. #251
    On August 4th, 2008 at 7:25 pm, Barry F. said:

    :lol:

    Thanks, 30. ;-)

  52. #252
    On August 4th, 2008 at 7:36 pm, brooklyn red said:

    No oil for ten years???

    Coming from the same people who claimed the the invasion of Iraq was to take their oil… which we could do tomorrow.

    Oh my, what maroons, LOL.

  53. #253
    On August 4th, 2008 at 7:46 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On August 4th, 2008 at 7:20 pm, Barry F. said:

    And, why would it be in the oil companies’ interests to inflate the price for no reason here and encourage more government intervention and regulation?

    But, they don’t want to cut off their own nose to spite their face, right?

    It not a question of inflating the price, its a question of keeping supply just even with demand, which is where the global oil ecomony has been for as long as I can remember. The oil companies aren’t going to start producing all of the oil in ANWR and the OCS and flood the market with increased supply. They might pick and choose a few select spots to marginally increase supply at best. Overall, we probably won’t see a huge decrease at the pump. At least not until the value of the dollar increase and the commodities markets are better regulated. In light of these factors, I don’t think the oil companies are solely to blame, but in the same vain I don’t hold much faith in the oil companies helping us out much given the opportunity.

  54. #254
    On August 4th, 2008 at 7:56 pm, Barry F. said:

    TOS,

    We have already seen the price, based on speculation, take a dip after Bush lifted the executive order banning drilling? That was without even seeing any oil. Imagine if Congress reverses their position what kind of price dip we might see from futures. Then, add some actual domestic oil production arising from it to start coming into the market.

    I wouldn’t think of disputing that oil is a finite resource and we will have to have something to replace it in the future. But, it is ludicrous to not tap our own domestic reserves and start some decline in current pump prices, until we can realize some of the alternative energy sources being knocked around.

    My position is to tap our own oil and use it, until we can bring the other options to fruition, because those are really the ones if suspect are far off from being viable. In the interim, average American’s cannot afford to pay high prices like we have at the pumps.

    Here in rural America, there is no public transit to use. So, we can’t take the bus, ride the rail, etc. We are dependent upon fuel for our vehicles to get to and from work, operate our tractors for farming, etc.

  55. #255
    On August 4th, 2008 at 8:00 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    Madam Pelosi, Savior of the Planet, has no time for trivial Republican matters such as this. Publicizing her new book is her top priority now.

    Thanks for spreading the word about Pelosi’s book tour, Michelle. I don’t live near any of the places where she’s appearing, but I hope some people will get out there and confront Pelosi – peacefully, of course – with the issues she’d rather not face.

    Are Republicans finally coming around and drawing attention to good ideas?

    KEEP IT UP.

    Set up a lemonade stand at the foot of the Capitol with the “drill now” message printed on the cup. Those getting the beverage could then leave the cups in various places around DC where representatives congregate. The “litter” would really get on the Dems’ nerves when they come back.

    Just a thought, and not a great one at that.

    Just keep it up, Republican representatives. I think you’re starting to get it.

  56. #256
    On August 4th, 2008 at 8:07 pm, concretebob said:

    Talk about an uneducation assumption!

    So when President Bush lifted the Executive ban on offshore drilling, that didn’t cause the price to drop 20%?
    What planet are you living on?
    Prove me wrong. Get behind opening ANWR; make them do it and PROVE ME WRONG!
    I dare you.

  57. #257
    On August 4th, 2008 at 8:10 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On August 4th, 2008 at 7:56 pm, Barry F. said:
    TOS,

    We have already seen the price, based on speculation, take a dip after Bush lifted the executive order banning drilling?

    I could argue that this, this and this news are more responsible for the dip in oil prices. And I think Bush was privy to this news when he lifted the ban.

    Anyways, we can continue to agree to disagree, but I’ve enjoyed our discourse on this issue…signing off. Have a nice evening!

  58. #258
    On August 4th, 2008 at 8:26 pm, gippergirl said:

    Michelle, who is there??? I really want to send their office a letter of support ASAP!

  59. #259
    On August 4th, 2008 at 9:30 pm, Mixer14 said:

    OK folks, John McCain is now on board with supporting the house Republicans. On the CNN Political Ticker
    LINK

    (Posted on CNN Political Ticker site at 7:23p 8/4/08)

    Presumptive Republican nominee John McCain called Monday for immediate congressional action on the nation’s energy crisis, joining a call by his Republican colleagues for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to call legislators back from their August recess for a special session.

    The Arizona senator said he would return to vote on any proposal. **SNIP**

    And, yes he’s late to the party but he’s finally showing up.

  60. #260
    On August 4th, 2008 at 9:37 pm, keystone said:

    gippergirl,

    Here is a list of the Members who were present today:

    Pence (R-IN), Westmoreland (R-GA), Price (R-GA), Cole (R-OK), Musgrave (R-CO), Wolf (R-VA), Barrett (R-SC), Manzullo (R-IL), Herger (R-CA), Gingrey (R-GA), Lewis (R-KY) Jordan (R-OH), Conaway (R-TX), Kline (R-MN), Turner (R-OH), King (R-IA), Roskam (R-IL), Hensarling (R-TX), Blackburn (R-TN), Wittman (R-VA), Walberg (R-MI), King (R-IA), Gohmert (R-TX), Hunter (R-CA), Kirk (R-IL)

    Schedule for the remainder of the week:
    Tuesday, meet at 10:00 a.m.
    Wednesday and Thursday, meet at 11:00 a.m.,
    Friday, meet at 10:00 a.m.

    (Info was taken from a Floor Update e-mail I received today.)

    Check out the Republican Cloakroom throughout the day. It is updated frequently.

  61. #261
    On August 4th, 2008 at 10:02 pm, DarkKnight said:

    When Mrs. Malkin first said this

    Update: From the Republican Study Committee, a call for President Bush to convene a special session on gas prices.

    Just do it!

    …I became very intrigued. As more time when by, I posed the question in Post #38 of why President Bush had not taken a position on the issue.

    Tgusa and I exchanged comments when this answer was posted:

    On August 3rd, 2008 at 2:10 pm, tgusa said:
    One, Bush may yet call a special session.

    In Post #110, I said that I was very interested in observing the position of the White House.

    Well, today, that answer came.

    White House says no to special session of Congress
    The White House has rejected calls from House Republicans that it convene a special session of Congress on energy, saying it wouldn’t make a difference.
    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/white-house-says-no-to-special-session-of-congress-2008-08-04.html

  62. #262
    On August 4th, 2008 at 10:47 pm, Lee Hazel said:

    One must not interfere with congressional delusions. Congress, and particularly liberals, like to think of themselves as very cosmopolitan and what is more cosmopolitan than Paris.
    Believe me Paris does shut down in August.

    PC is Thought Control
    LEE

  63. #263
    On August 4th, 2008 at 11:21 pm, atheling said:

    Barry F:

    You got sucked into TOS’ stupid game!!!

    He does this EVERY damned time. Like some kind of spambot, he spouts the same BS over and over and over again.

    Don’t feed the troll! :)

  64. #264
    On August 4th, 2008 at 11:32 pm, Alaskan said:

    In the midst of the sound and fury here, there are some great ideas on how to stick it to the Democrats, Pelosi, and Obama for the entire month of August and maybe longer. It may not seem like a lot of people are paying attention but this could be the beginning of the end for the “majority party.”

  65. #265
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:27 am, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    LGM

    Analysis:

    Refute him with ridicule, not facts (like purple bandaids at the last Republican convention).

    Deliberately distort what Obama said. The point he was making was that tuneups and proper pressure save as much gas as offshore drilling would produce — not very much. He did not say it would bring gas prices down.

    Both your interpretation and Barack Obama’s about offshore oil drilling are absolutely incorrect. I studied alternative energy in graduate school, LGM and you both are wrong.

    Then again, most of the time liberal are.

  66. #266
    On September 24th, 2010 at 10:12 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

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