Rock the House: What should Republicans do now? It’s on…Culberson: Every day on the House floor this week
Scroll down for updates…10:00am Eastern Monday 8/4…GOP Rep. John Culberson is Qikking the Revolt, Pt II now…go here…Mike Pence right now: “What you are about to witness is the beginning of a sustained effort to demand that Speaker Pelosi bring Congress back to Washington DC and give us an up and down vote on an energy bill that includes more access to American oil”…Culberson: “House conservatives will be on the floor every day this week”…Boehner live blog here….
Pelosi digs in: “House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Sunday maintained a hard-line stance against offshore drilling and said GOP efforts on the floor to push her toward a vote was [a] “war dance of the hand maidens of the oil companies.”
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“Hit hard, hit fast, hit often.”
That was the advice Marine hero Chesty Puller gave his men.
That’s the advice congressional Republicans should follow.
On Friday, GOP members led a revolt on the floor that rocked the House, energized the conservative base, humiliated the feckless Democrat majority, and brought visiting tourists to their feet cheering in the gallery. (Oh, and not coincidentally on Friday afternoon, Barack Obama followed John McCain and flip-flopped on offshore drilling. If you lead, conservatives, the flip-floppers will follow.)
While Do-Nothing Nancy Pelosi jetted off on her pathetically-performing “Know Your Power” book tour and Democrats adjourned for a five-week recess, scores of Republican congressional representatives stayed on Capitol Hill–or rushed back in shorts with suitcases still in hand — to press for votes on energy independence and drilling. Though Pelosi turned the lights out on the House floor, Republicans got their message out–via Twitter, Qik, the blogosphere, talk radio, and grumbly MSM types who derided the upstart effort as “bizarre.”
Leave it to Beltway snob journalists to call House Republicans who refuse to take vacations while the public’s business goes unfinished “bizarre.”
One of my favorite moments from Friday’s revolt:
Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) just pretended to be a Democrat. He stood on the other side of the chamber and listed all of the GOP bills that the Dems killed.
He then said, “I am a Democrat, and here is my energy plan” and he held up a picture of an old
VW Bug(correction: readers are telling me it’s an Isetta) with a sail attached to it. He paraded around the House floor with the sign while the crowd cheered.
The sign via Jim Hoft:
Dead on.
So, now what?
House Republicans hit hard and hit fast on Friday. Come Monday, they need to hit again and hit often during the Democrats’ vacation.
Mark Tapscott at the Examiner thinks Friday was a missed opportunity.
But the fight has only just begun.
The House GOP’s 8/1 revolt wasn’t merely good political theater. It was good politics. Politics on offense. Politics the grass-roots can get behind. Energized politics on energy that will galvanize public opinion in the otherwise lazy, dog days of August.
Seems to me House Republicans should be holding a public event every day in Washington from now until the end of the Democrats’ vacation to call attention to Nancy’s anti-drilling intransigence and her refusal to hold votes on the issue. Work in shifts. Whatever it takes. But every House Republican should clock in at some point during the Democrats’ vacation and take a stand for energy independence now, not later.
Can’t speak on the House floor? Hold a sit-in on the Capitol steps. Or at a local gas station. Bring those kerosene lamps or Bic lighters. Pass out postcards with Rep. Devin Nunes’ satirical sign.
Bring some tire pumps, while you’re at it, and mock the Obama tire-inflation-as-planet saving energy plan:
And make sure to videotape it all.
House GOP members should also be spreading the word to their local newspapers and local talk show hosts in their congressional districts to assail Nancy’s gag order and hammer the “Drill now” theme home.
And where’s the RNC? How about sending someone in a chicken costume to trail Nancy Pelosi during her hiatus? As the House Republicans asked repeatedly on Friday: What’s she so afraid of?
On 8/1, the House GOP brought it on.
Keep it going, turn it up, and make sure the American public sees you at work on proactive energy proposals to bring down the Pelosi Premium during the Democrats’ vacation.
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Speaking of the absent Speaker of the House, here’s her book tour schedule during the Democrats’ vacation. The “Impeach Bush” crowd is dogging her on the book publicity trail. Wouldn’t it be good to see protesters at these events pressing her on issues people really care about?
Like Nan says: Know your power. Hit hard, hit fast, hit often.
8/4/2008 John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum Columbia Point
Columbia Point
Boston, MA 02125
617-514-1645 5:30 pm
8/5/2008 Free Library of Philadelphia (Central Library)
Montgomery Auditorium 1901 Vine St.
Philadelphia, PA 19103
215-567-4341 7 pm
8/6/2008 Temple Judea
5500 Granada Blvd.
Miami, FL 33146
305-442-4408 7:30 pm
8/7/2008 Borders Books
612 East Liberty St.
Ann Arbor, MI 48104
734-668-7652 7 pm
8/11/2008 American Jewish University
Gindi Auditorium 15600 Mulholland Dr.
Los Angeles, CA 90077
310-659-3110 7 pm
8/12/2008 Dominican University
Angelico Hall 50 Acacia Avenue
San Rafael, CA 94901
415-927-0960 7 pm
8/13/2008 Forum for Women Entrepreneurs
Oracle Corporation 500 Oracle Pkwy.
Redwood City, CA 94065
415-382-6022 7 pm
8/14/2008 Cowell Theater
Fort Mason Center, Pier 2
San Francisco, CA 94123
415-643-3400×11 7 pm
8/20/2008 Tattered Cover Bookstore
1628 16th Street
Denver, CO 80202
303-436-1070 5:30 pm
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If you’ve got specific suggestions for what House Republicans should do the next five weeks during the Democrats’ vacation, leave them in comments or e-mail.
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Afternoon update: It’s on! More than a dozen GOP lawmakers committed to carrying the ball tomorrow in D.C. Excellent.
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So, you want the House to stay in session all August and throw constituent services out the window?
See if you can follow me here: The House is on “vacation,” where the members work at home, EVERY. SINGLE. AUGUST.
This “vacation” is usually longer on election years since every single member is fighting for their job.
This was true when the GOP held the chamber and it’s true today. So, yes, such partisanship is on its face stupid. This line of attack depends on people forgetting things that happened only two years ago. To your credit, Mrs. Malkin, it’s working a lot better than I expected.
As for gas being $4.00 a gallon, I’d love to hear what legislation the Republicans are proposing to fix that. Saying pretty-please to OPEC to release more oil? Or a pretty-please to China and India to stop expanding so damn fast?
I hear everyone here, but I just can’t bring myself to ask congress to conveve another session. The only time I, and my wallet, feel safe is when congress is adjourned. At least then I know they aren’t passing MORE laws or passing stupid meaningless non-binding resolutions (like apologies to African Americans for slavery). Nothing good ever comes from self serving pols trying to justify their positions with $ giveaways or liberty grabbing laws.
RUSTY:
That would make sense if the revolt was about the vacation, but its not. Its about the house plying golf while there is an energy crisis they are ignoring.
Before you slam it you might actualy want to read it. DUH.
Democrats: What have they done for you lately?
Obama has sensed the danger for him on this issue and has turned over and buttered a new waffle on it. Pelosi, being a strawberries and croissants with double latte kind of liberal, hasn’t yet sensed the danger. And she won’t. The big red semi is bearing down on the bug-eyed #3 most powerful person on the planet. Such sweet splaaaaat to come.
I believe the entire article spells it out.
But lets recap.
Drill Now.
See, that wasn’t so hard, was it?
the entire point here is, republicans are trying to do something (legitimately, and not just some mock up like dems did, as you pointed out so thanks for making our argument a bit easier) about energy costs and supplies. Dems go home and pretend nothing is wrong so they can come back and whine later about nothing being done.
I’d rather see them do something and lose time at home with constituents, than nothing being done at all…apparently, you’re good with democratic apathy.
Just remember that apathy the next time you get gas.
How do I find out which representatives are there?
Did San Fran-Gran-Nan just make a racist comment?
srhoades: Sure, why not?
Sexist comment, I think.
you keep repeating this.
Rusty, you are one naive person.
Are you kidding! Have you not been reading this site at all in the three months?! The Republicans, and according to the most recent polling, most Americans want OFFSHORE DRILLING, EXPLORATION within US BORDERS, and DRILLING in ANWR! These things do not have to be spelled out in written form during an election year, to be deemed legislation.
Work?! Calling people’s homes at all hours, flooding local media with ridiculous slogans and meaningless campaign promises, and creating traffic jams and waiting lines for constituents while some politician makes a speech is not work – it’s an unwelcome invasion forced upon us every August.
Constituents would fair much better if politicians stayed in DC and out of our hair.
So are you intimating we’re too dense to keep up with your high-brow logic? Real mature! This self-righteous indignation of yours is a sure sign that the Republicans have a winning strategy in exposing the Dems indifference to the nation’s gas crisis, and portends good times ahead for the GOP – and the American people!
Why not publish the democrat’s vacation plans? 5 weeks of fun and frivolity, at all our expense, is more than any of us can hope to enjoy.
Democrats always engage in war against American corportations. They want a windfall profits tax against Exxon. Howabout the PROFITS of Saudi Arabia, or the PROFITS or IRAN or RUSSIA, or Venezuela, etc.
Just one more reason I have come to despise Democrats.
This is a joke right? Constituent Services? Tell me what Representatives represent constituents over their own party? But tell you the truth I hope these guys and gals get an earfull from constituents (those that actually live in their districts that is). We have seen Abercrombie change his tune (or is it toon as in cartoon) after hearing from the Hawaii people. The democrats are now exposing their own arrogance and it will be an interesting November. So yep stay home till November.
What? Can you name an August where the House was in session? Bonus points if you can name an August in an election year.
How am I being naive? I lived in DC for seven years and worked on the Hill (during an August in an election year!) The city almost shuts down. All the politicians, lawyers, and lobbyists go on vacation. It’s the only time (other than Jewish holidays when I still had to work) when you can grab a seat on the Metro.
So, how am I being naive again? It’s naive to know how the system works? You are being willfully ignorant.
As for the “drill now” legislation, haha, good luck with that. The limited benefit we get from drilling won’t be felt by the American consumer for another 10 years, at least. Time isn’t an issue here.
This certainly can’t wait for people to go about and try to win re-election without the American consumer noticing a thing.
Yeah, probably, but that’s a recipe for losing re-election. Constituents want to see their reps in their hometown as much as possible. Staying in DC too much is a recipe for losing a race.
The irony being that people like ajmontana still don’t get it. I need to dumb it down even more.
you are being naive to even think they go home to work. like I said the first of the 4 times you’ve said this , one photo op tops is what the will do at home to work as you say.
grow a brain.
We’ll name an August when the house was in session if you name a year when an appropriations bill was not passed.
It’s clear from her reactions that Speaker Pelosi is running away from this topic. Many of us are asking why and we all believe the answer is that the democrats want higher gas prices.
It allows them to continue to hammer away at the American people to conserve and switch to different fuel sources.
Why else would they take almost every measure they can, including ignoring all debate on the subject, to ensure that we do not drill.
I thought this was the year of hope and change? I thought Pelosi was going to run a different kind of house? So what if it’s always been done that way?
It’s amusing and ironic for the left to argue that we shouldn’t do something based on tradition, no?
I am not calling you naive, though. I am just wondering why holding fast to the August vacation is such a huge deal. Most of us work many more hours than the average representative, so I don’t feel too sorry for them if they have to cancel vacation.
Many of us had to cancel vacation due to the high price of gas. So we have very little pity for them.
So we shouldn’t do it because (as you say) it’s 10 years off? What if it isn’t 10 years off? What if the Chinese drilling in the gulf are productive much sooner? Why should we just give up because Pelosi is against it?
I’m not sure I parsed this sentence correctly. I’m assuming you were typing quickly.
This is very much an election year topic. The price of gas is something on almost every American’s mind, so why wouldn’t the Democrats wish to show some leadership on this and engage the Republicans? The truth, I believe, is that the Democrats would rather run from this topic in an election year.
They want them to do what they are hired to do and that is make their lives better. That starts with energy independance. But frankly I want them to finally listen or else get defeated.
The farther this drama goes, the more obvious it is that Comrade Pelosky has taken leave of her senses, if she ever had any to start with.
I don’t get what your problem is with an August session…unless it’s just that you’re mad because the Republicans have finally stumbled upon a winning issue?
We know who our representatives are and what they stand for; we do not need them hanging around, pestering to remind us. Just because they forget us when they hit DC, doesn’t mean we forget them – try as we may!
I don’t have a problem with an August session. I have a problem with the traditional August session being used for partisan purposes. No one was complaining when the GOP had extended August vacations that lasted longer than the ones we have today.
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I was unaware that only republicans were being hit by the energy crisis.
Why is this a laughing matter? Apparently, you (like most libs) seem to think that Nancy’s obstructionism affects only Republicans and their constituents. You have a Speaker of House who will not allow a bill come up for vote and that is perfectly acceptable to you. Wow!
Besides, as someone pointed out earlier: every day that we do not drill, is yet another day we are dependent upon foreign oil.
C’mon Rusty, pretend we are talking about Planned Parenthood – whip out the low-income women need their services card. Low-income people are only of consequence when liberals are driving the agenda….
Hear, hear! Note that Rusty the misogynist invokes compassion for the poor only when it suits his agenda. But when it doesn’t, he does not give a rat’s a** about those less fortunate than himself.
Hypocrite!
It’s political theater, no doubt. It is also a real issue. America has oil that Congress won’t let us extract while gasoline is $4 per gallon.
The weather is warm now. In a few months, the scary number will be the cost of home heating oil. You think people are annoyed because they can’t go on vacation, just wait until they have their thermostats at 55.
If we can get them to follow on this, why not see what we can do with regard to other major issues, like the erosion of freedom, etc.
I see LOTS of potential here!
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Just sent my $$$ donation checks to the RNC and the NRCC – now that they are actually standing up for us…
We don’t need Hope and Unity, we need conservative and American centered actions on the issues of energy (need more) and immigration (need less). With these two actions, we will achieve balance between supply and demand and lower prices.
Just called Pelosi’s office and was transferred to her voicemail service. Surprise, her mailbox is “full” and can’t accept any more messages.
Coward!
Leave Pelosi (spending the Democrat’s 6 week summer vacation trying to desperately unload her bomb of a book) alone!
I think you got viral video material there, Rusty.
And now, with obama flipping the script…
Where’s you’re Obamessiah now?
Are you implying that the entire time the Congress is in session, they are not being used for partisan purposes?
Now that’s a stretch!
With all the partisan investigations, committees etc., that would be a difficult premise to push.
As for them taking time off, I am usually all for it, as it keeps them from doing any more damage, but the heating season is coming, and I see some huge heating bills in our future. How are the Dems going to look if they drop the ball on this?
How can you say Pelosi, on her whirlwind book tour, is using “the August recess as a traditional time for reps to meet with her constituents?”
And let us not forget the grief that Bush got for taking time off in August..
I’m bored with this Rusty Blog. I’m outta here.
The argument by Democrats that allowing new drilling would not have much of an impact on oil prices is just a smokescreen. Regardless of whether or not it would significantly lower prices, it doesn’t change the fact that there is no good reason NOT to drill for our own oil. There is drilling going on all over the world. Foreign countries are drilling right in our own backyards. Norway is rich in oil revenue from off-shore drilling. Countries like Saudi Arabia must be laughing hysterically at the idea that we have all this oil and refuse to drill for it. This is all because the Dems are beholden to the radical enviro lobby and don’t want new oil and want prices to be high. They would rather we all suffer economically so that a few carribou and fish aren’t unduly disturbed. They hope that if they throw up enough smoke they can push the issue out of the spotlight and take care of their enviro benefactors. This notwithstanding that category 5 hurricanes have passed through our major off-shore drilling areas and not caused any significant environmental damage.
Book tour? This might be the first time in publishing history when the revenues of a book aren’t enough to cover the book tour.
Nuncy Botoxi said:
You need to look at more than just Dem talking points to get your timelines, Rusty. People in the industry are citing a “matter of months”, not years.
I’m sure your not so naive that you actually believe that nonsense. Realistically, how long do you think it would take oil from this new off-shore drilling to make it to market?
I am more inclined to believe people in the industry. And, the source for your nonsensical views would be?
I wish I had taken a photo. The local Dem headquarters has a sign in the window saying “Save Our Country” with a sillouette of an oil rig with the red circle and slash across it. In words, no drilling and that will save our country… The stupidity in that is astounding but not surprising from a Dem.
If I get a chance I’ll get a snap of it.
Other Side – If Clinton (the adulterous one) had signed the drill ANWAR bill 13 years ago, we’d have been getting oil for 3 years now. Every moment you put it off, you dig the hole a little deeper and make it harder for this country to stay alive.
how about showing a picture of a stranded military vehicle, and some cans of motor oil, and point out that our troops and the entire military depend on oil to function, to defend our country.
the Dems want to tap the strategic reserve, which would further erode our national security.
by putting the debate in the light of national security, not just lower prices, it would have a more telling and effective message.
Oh for heaven’s sakes, please, NO ONE answer TOS’ stupid question. He/she/it wants to monopolize this thread AGAIN with the same tired bullsh**.
TOS: You are such a frigging bore. Go somewhere else and babble.
Yes, Joy. Make sure to preserve that belief of the Democrats with a still photo. It will come back to bite them hard.
Barry – You’d think with 75% of Americans being on the side of drilling, they’d at least have one brain-cell among them firing enough to not have that in the window! sheesh
One would think, Joy. One would think.
Where is the Dem HQ you noted?
There are other things besides the oil that the Democrats have been working on! They deserve this break — a break from their socialist agenda!
http://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/pressreleases?id=0781
Nice… Use up the emergency stock, then what? More drilling maybe?
The democrat energy conservation plan to move America forward. They run, well, walk, on biofuels.
Barry – I’ll say after I snap the photo and post it. Otherwise, some troll like ‘other side’ might call and warn them.
Considering it would take 3 years minimum for drilling to even begin, a five-year wait for drilling rigs, and the EIA’s 5 year estimate time to production after leasing…I’ll stick with the estimate of 8-10 years.
#223 joy said:
75% of Americans, the majority of Repubs, and a whole bunch of silent Blue Dogs are being held hostage by one congresswoman from San Francisco, currently on a “pseudo-feminism “book tour.
If this was Newt Gingrich pulling such a stunt, you know the MSMs would be camped out on his mother’s lawn for the entire month of August.
Regardless, this is a losing issue for dems. I predict that Pelosi, Reid and Obama will have to fall in line on comprehensive domestic drilling before October begins.
All they’ll have to do is decide on how to rephrase their capitulation, so as not to overexcite their loons on the left.
If the GOP wins on this issue, a win which will be popular among many Americans, the Dems will spin it so that they take credit for it. And idiots like lgm, rusty, TOS, et all, will buy it.
#216 TOS said:
Why do you care how long it takes?
Oh, you are so right… err left… err whatever.
Actually, you forgot about the time it would take for the oil to get up to the surface. The time it takes to fill tankers. The time it takes to drive to the gas station. The time to build a gas station…. and last, but not least, the time it takes to dream up new reasons for it to take so long to drill new oil wells and take advantage of oil shale.
Why, after you tack on all that time, it would be years, and years, and years before anyone would see a change in price of gas. We would all be long dead and our bodies converted to oil and coal before one new oil well could be drilled!
lol, they sure did get it going alot faster than that in Iraq…….
I trust Americans doing the work in our country would and could get rigs flowing in no time at all.
Geeze we could dig up the great Americans and Imigrants who built this country up the way it is now and get the job done faster than your estimate.
#230 said:
Either the dems are going to cooperate in all efforts to increase supply over demand, or they’re not.
If the majority of American voters pull the dem. lever in ‘08, then they will either be saying that rising fuel prices and lower supplies are just fine with them, or that other things are more important than the price of gas.
One thing they won’t be able to say is that they weren’t offered a clear difference of choice on the issue.
But I agree with your triangulation theory. Dems are always willing to let the repubs do the heavy lifting before they say, “me too.”
Yes. Perfectly acceptable That’s a big part of the Speaker’s job. No different than when Hastert was running the show.
I’m not even that bothered by the off-shore drilling legislation and I don’t give that much of a hoot about ANWR. For a liberal, I’m not much of an environmentalist.
The problem is that the recess has taken on partisan undertones. Michelle Malkin calling this the “Democratic recess” is preposterous. This recess is a tradition. Politicians (and their many underlings, lawyers, and lobbyists) all plan their year around it. It’s no more a Democratic recess than it was a GOP recess between 1995-2008.
apparently having low income working Americans unable to afford driving to work, or heating their homes is not important to Dems.
they are so beholden to wacko extremist enviros that they love high gas prices cuz it fits their agenda of doing away with fossil fuels
Wy does it make any difference how long it takes to get new oil flowing?
Are there some numbskulls out there who think we won’t need the oil whenever we get it? Picture this…..oil flows from ANWR at 1 million barrels per day……feds report, “we are no longer importing any of the 15 million barrels per day of oil we were importing, so we just don’t know what we’ll do with this oil from ANWR”.
Not drilling because it will “take too long” is one of the most idiotic reasons for not doing the right thing I have ever heard.
And, the Dem times they use are nothing more than talking points and easily 2-3 times longer than those in the know…..and making drilling the priority it should be would get the oil flowing even quicker.
DRILL NOW WHEREVER THE OIL IS!!!!
Got it. I was unaware that her job entailed subverting the will of the American people. Now I know.
When I was young I got myself in debt. I did some calculations and I figured it would take five or more years to pay it down. No one told me, you can’t work your way out of this but even if they had I would not have believed them. The truth is Nancy wants to save the planet, she let that fact slip over the weekend. She wants to save the planet so her constituents can still have their festivals. After she succeeds and the world is once again safe they will all gather together to urinate on each other and there will be much rejoicing.
We can build a 750 megawatt clean coal fired power plant in under two years. I know for a fact we could be pumping oil from ANWR in under 2 years, probably less. You underestimate the abilities of the working class of this Nation, of which I am one and I take a great deal of offense at your uneducated assumption. You have no clue what can be done today.
Secoondly, the mere suggestion that we are going to begin drilling and pumping will create a market scare and the price of crude will drop 50% in less than a week.
Understood and agreed, Joy. I can’t wait to find out later where the Dem genius is located that decided to do that.
Concretebob I agree if our fumbling political overlords address this threat to our national security and treat it like they did in WWII we could possible see a continuous flow of oil through a connecting pipe line in 18 – 24 months. After all we built the ALCAN Highway in about the same time line under the most hostile weather conditions imaginable I know we could do it again if our dysfunctional Government and the Eco-fascists stay out of the way.
I am banking on the private sector. This isn’t like the government trying to get a fence built. If you turn the private sector loose on it, I believe they could move mountains, both literally and figuratively to make it a reality and quickly.
But, you think in terms of how inept government goes about getting something done, which would take at least as long as you expect, if not much longer.
See? Public vs. private. The latter is a can do approach. The prior is a can’t get their finger out of their butt to even get started in a timely manner.
Do you also take offense at the uneducated assumption of the EIA who suggests an 8-12 years timeline for ANWR? I don’t underestimate this nation’s abilities, but I also don’t underestimates the realities of government leases and government regulations (which apparently you do). In fact, part of my case against drilling is strictly due to the fact that I have a great respect for the industrious people of this nation who will be able to transform our oil-based energy industry into one of alternative sources in 10-15 years.
Talk about an uneducation assumption!
Fair point Barry….but instead of public vs. private, I see it as reality vs. fantasy. My next question is why would big oil companies even want to tap into the OCS or ANWR? Wouldn’t increase supply bring the price down? How much more would the have to sell in order to recoup their lost revenue from the decrease in price?
On August 4th, 2008 at 7:13 pm, TheOtherSide said:
On August 4th, 2008 at 6:55 pm, Barry F. said:
See? Public vs. private. The latter is a can do approach. The prior is a can’t get their finger out of their butt to even get started in a timely manner.
Fair point Barry….but instead of public vs. private, I see it as reality vs. fantasy. My next question is why would big oil companies even want to tap into the OCS or ANWR? Wouldn’t increase supply bring the price down? How much more would the have to sell in order to recoup their lost revenue from the decrease in price?
Much of that price comes from costs demanded from nations not too friendly to the U.S. If it were produced here, the oil companies would still be able to make their profits but, instead of the added cost demanded by nations hostile to U.S. interests, it would be eliminated. And, why would it be in the oil companies’ interests to inflate the price for no reason here and encourage more government intervention and regulation?
We both know oil companies want to make a good profit. That’s just part of capialism. But, they don’t want to cut off their own nose to spite their face, right?
Remove OPEC and others and a huge obstacle and portion of the costs are eradicated.
Sorry. I forgot to block off quotes and such in that last post.
Much of that price comes from costs demanded from nations not too friendly to the U.S. If it were produced here, the oil companies would still be able to make their profits but, instead of the added cost demanded by nations hostile to U.S. interests, it would be eliminated. And, why would it be in the oil companies’ interests to inflate the price for no reason here and encourage more government intervention and regulation?
We both know oil companies want to make a good profit. That’s just part of capialism. But, they don’t want to cut off their own nose to spite their face, right?
Remove OPEC and others and a huge obstacle and portion of the costs are eradicated.
capialismcapitalismBarry,
It’s late in the day… we’ll let you slide this time. Tomorrow I expect you to bring the A-game.
Thanks, 30.
No oil for ten years???
Coming from the same people who claimed the the invasion of Iraq was to take their oil… which we could do tomorrow.
Oh my, what maroons, LOL.
It not a question of inflating the price, its a question of keeping supply just even with demand, which is where the global oil ecomony has been for as long as I can remember. The oil companies aren’t going to start producing all of the oil in ANWR and the OCS and flood the market with increased supply. They might pick and choose a few select spots to marginally increase supply at best. Overall, we probably won’t see a huge decrease at the pump. At least not until the value of the dollar increase and the commodities markets are better regulated. In light of these factors, I don’t think the oil companies are solely to blame, but in the same vain I don’t hold much faith in the oil companies helping us out much given the opportunity.
TOS,
We have already seen the price, based on speculation, take a dip after Bush lifted the executive order banning drilling? That was without even seeing any oil. Imagine if Congress reverses their position what kind of price dip we might see from futures. Then, add some actual domestic oil production arising from it to start coming into the market.
I wouldn’t think of disputing that oil is a finite resource and we will have to have something to replace it in the future. But, it is ludicrous to not tap our own domestic reserves and start some decline in current pump prices, until we can realize some of the alternative energy sources being knocked around.
My position is to tap our own oil and use it, until we can bring the other options to fruition, because those are really the ones if suspect are far off from being viable. In the interim, average American’s cannot afford to pay high prices like we have at the pumps.
Here in rural America, there is no public transit to use. So, we can’t take the bus, ride the rail, etc. We are dependent upon fuel for our vehicles to get to and from work, operate our tractors for farming, etc.
Madam Pelosi, Savior of the Planet, has no time for trivial Republican matters such as this. Publicizing her new book is her top priority now.
Thanks for spreading the word about Pelosi’s book tour, Michelle. I don’t live near any of the places where she’s appearing, but I hope some people will get out there and confront Pelosi – peacefully, of course – with the issues she’d rather not face.
Are Republicans finally coming around and drawing attention to good ideas?
KEEP IT UP.
Set up a lemonade stand at the foot of the Capitol with the “drill now” message printed on the cup. Those getting the beverage could then leave the cups in various places around DC where representatives congregate. The “litter” would really get on the Dems’ nerves when they come back.
Just a thought, and not a great one at that.
Just keep it up, Republican representatives. I think you’re starting to get it.
So when President Bush lifted the Executive ban on offshore drilling, that didn’t cause the price to drop 20%?
What planet are you living on?
Prove me wrong. Get behind opening ANWR; make them do it and PROVE ME WRONG!
I dare you.
I could argue that this, this and this news are more responsible for the dip in oil prices. And I think Bush was privy to this news when he lifted the ban.
Anyways, we can continue to agree to disagree, but I’ve enjoyed our discourse on this issue…signing off. Have a nice evening!
Michelle, who is there??? I really want to send their office a letter of support ASAP!
OK folks, John McCain is now on board with supporting the house Republicans. On the CNN Political Ticker
LINK
And, yes he’s late to the party but he’s finally showing up.
gippergirl,
Here is a list of the Members who were present today:
Pence (R-IN), Westmoreland (R-GA), Price (R-GA), Cole (R-OK), Musgrave (R-CO), Wolf (R-VA), Barrett (R-SC), Manzullo (R-IL), Herger (R-CA), Gingrey (R-GA), Lewis (R-KY) Jordan (R-OH), Conaway (R-TX), Kline (R-MN), Turner (R-OH), King (R-IA), Roskam (R-IL), Hensarling (R-TX), Blackburn (R-TN), Wittman (R-VA), Walberg (R-MI), King (R-IA), Gohmert (R-TX), Hunter (R-CA), Kirk (R-IL)
Schedule for the remainder of the week:
Tuesday, meet at 10:00 a.m.
Wednesday and Thursday, meet at 11:00 a.m.,
Friday, meet at 10:00 a.m.
(Info was taken from a Floor Update e-mail I received today.)
Check out the Republican Cloakroom throughout the day. It is updated frequently.
When Mrs. Malkin first said this…
…I became very intrigued. As more time when by, I posed the question in Post #38 of why President Bush had not taken a position on the issue.
Tgusa and I exchanged comments when this answer was posted:
In Post #110, I said that I was very interested in observing the position of the White House.
Well, today, that answer came.
One must not interfere with congressional delusions. Congress, and particularly liberals, like to think of themselves as very cosmopolitan and what is more cosmopolitan than Paris.
Believe me Paris does shut down in August.
PC is Thought Control
LEE
Barry F:
You got sucked into TOS’ stupid game!!!
He does this EVERY damned time. Like some kind of spambot, he spouts the same BS over and over and over again.
Don’t feed the troll!
In the midst of the sound and fury here, there are some great ideas on how to stick it to the Democrats, Pelosi, and Obama for the entire month of August and maybe longer. It may not seem like a lot of people are paying attention but this could be the beginning of the end for the “majority party.”