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I do not wish him to die, but will not lose sleep over his retiring. I feel the same way about Ted Kennedy.

Respectfully,

eric aka the Tygrrrr Express

martin.musculus(jr.) said:
As I submitted the previous comment, I realized what discomforted me about the reactions to hadsil’s opening comment.

It is the same discomfort I experienced when reading the Kennedy thread.

If I understand this correctly, it seems that even among those here, adversity insulates one from criticism{sp?} and gives them moral authority of the

Nope, MMjr, it’s just as I said – it’s basic human civility not to rejoice when it’s been announced that a person has been diagnosed with a disease that will surely take his/her life.

I have little to zero interest in Novak’s writing career and rarely read him. But I know enough to not have to send anyone to inquire as for whom the bell is tolling.

Hope things are going well with your family, BTW.

It is the same discomfort I experienced when reading the Kennedy thread.

If I understand this correctly, it seems that even among those here, adversity insulates one from criticism{sp?} and gives them moral authority of the sort that places them beyond the reach of the normal “taking to task” comments others must weather.

As the Libs claimed for Shehan.

So, if Sen. Kennedy or Mr. Novak or Martin.Musculus aren’t ill, I can bash their ideas as much as I think they deserve… But if they have some extreme health condition; their poor opinions become good ones, or those opinions become off-limits for comment, or we become too polite to raise issue & hold up a stop sign.

What are we going to do when Sen. Kennedy goes the way of all the world and passes? The Libs will throw every bad and socialist idea, incl. the kitchensink into a bill or series of bills, and urge us to agree to them as an Honorarium to Kennedy’s life’s work. To say “no” will be characterized as a personal, nasty and mean-spirited attack on Sen Kennedy of the same nature as hadsil’s comment has been. Whether hadsil’s comment was actually meant that way or not is irrelevent. I use the occassion of it and the comments about it to illustrate my point.

To claim comments attacking the work, ideas, or opinions of someone ill is oppossed to “basic human civility”, when you feel that person’s goals are dangerous to the Republic is to unilaterally disarm on the battlefield of ideas.

Just as the Libs have been orienting the culture to condition us to feel. (Not think, feel.)

Note: I incl. Dad above to forestall all those who would glance at my comment and then deflect from the issue by claiming I was simply being hateful.

I can assure you: I love my Dad, (although I’ve had many disagreements with him, )

Are you saying that, (nb: caps in the following as caps to express switches, not shouting…):

1.) IF you disagree with a viewpoint a person holds

2.) AND that person has spent yrs working hard to convince others he’s correct

3.) THEN hearing of that person’s retirement

4.) EITHER because of the aforementioned illness, OR he’s just published a tell-all summation of his career

5.) then WITHOUT any reference one way or the other of your feelings on his illness, you express relief on his retirement

6.) you’re automatically & of necessity stating you’re happy he’s ill?

7.) THEREFORE: any expression of feelings of relief on a person’s retirement is a nasty comment if that person happens to be ill. REGARDLESS of years of disagreement with him…

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I’ve tried to logically layout my understanding of your comment. Are you implying all a person is is their opinion?

Is relief someone will no longer champion opinions you find abominable inseparable from your feeling of that person’s trials in life?

That seems not “hate the sin but love the sinner”, rather “tolerance = affirmation”. To express it another way: if you love me you must love everything I think & do?

Obviously I’m missing something here. While I think hadsil’s comment rude & out of place, I don’t see it as one of those “glad he’s dying” comments found in other places.

As a matter of fact, while saddened that Mr. Novak & family must contend w/this, I’ve often found myself at odds with his opinions.

Our house is praying for you Mr. Novak.

On August 4th, 2008 at 3:27 pm, Scooter36 said:

good riddance…

That’s what your mother said when she got out of the stirrups at Planned Parenthood.

hadsil said:

I took “delight” out of his retirement, not illness.

You’re making the same argument as a person speaking of the Holocaust might state: “eh, it’s just 6 million less Jews” and who then tries to justify himself with, “Well, what I really meant to say is I took delight at them being removed from power; not so much in shipping them to the death camps”.

Not sorry to burst the “Everyone here loves Robert Novak” bubble.

Not to worry. The “bubble” is actually something called “basic human civility” and you didn’t burst it, you just displayed a lack of it.

On August 4th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, hadsil said:
One less anti-Israel pundit to kvetch about.

The scum are out in force.