Illegal alien Death Row rapist/killer’s last-ditch appeal
The world court and President Bush tried and failed to stop the execution of illegal alien Death Row killer Jose Medellin.
Texas told ‘em to bug off–and the Supreme Court backed Texas.
Medellin faces execution tomorrow. The U.N. and the international meddlers are whining. Now, Medellin’s lawyers have filed one last-ditch appeal to subvert our national sovereignty and delay justice:
“Texas. It’s like a whole other country.”
Coined to promote tourism, that wry verbal wink at the state’s mythic image has assumed a literal meaning as Texas finds itself in defiance of the United Nations, the Organization of American States and national leaders in its planned Tuesday execution of Mexican citizen Jose Medellin.
Unless the U.S. Supreme Court or Gov. Rick Perry acts in his favor, Medellin, 33, will die for the 1993 rape-strangulation of two teenage Houston girls, Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Peña.
Jennifer’s father, Randy Ertman, dismissed international opposition to the execution.
“It’s just a last-ditch effort to keep the scumbag breathing,” Ertman said. “He never should have been breathing in the first place. I don’t care, I really don’t care what anyone thinks about this except Texas. I love Texas. Texas is in my blood.”
At issue is Texas’ refusal to hold a hearing to determine whether Medellin’s defense was harmed by his inability to confer with Mexican consular officials at the time of his arrest. A suspect’s right to talk with his consulate is guaranteed by the United Nations’ Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, to which the United States is a party.
Medellin insists he told both Houston police and Harris County officers that he is a Mexican citizen. Prosecutors say the killer never informed authorities of his nationality.
In a sworn statement, Medellin said he learned that the Mexican Consulate could possibly help him in 1997, four years after his arrest. He unsuccessfully petitioned the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals on the issue in 1998.
In 2004, the U.N.’s world court, responding to a Mexican lawsuit against the United States, ordered that hearings be held for Medellin and dozens of other inmates denied their consular rights. In 2005, President Bush called for the hearings to be held. Texas challenged the decision, and the Supreme Court determined that only Congress could mandate such action. In July, the world court ordered Medellin’s execution be stayed.
The proper response? Murder victim Jennifer Ertman’s father, Randy, says its all:
“The world court don’t mean diddly. This business belongs in the state of Texas … the rest of them can go to hell.”
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I second that emotion, all in favor say “aye”.
Okay, lets stop messing arround, all it takes is a small amount of preasure on the trigger to solve this entire problem. Hell i’ll do it.
All I have to say is, may God show you the same mercy you denied your victims.
And, use the express lane.
Not being a christian, I get to say I hope he suffers like his victims did for eternity.
I do pray the families will finally see that justice will be done tomorrow by the state of Texas.
L
It’s not going to stop until we fix the politicians. We need Jamiel’s Law to pass.
His replacement
Justice would be letting the family have some “alone” time with this guy before the execution, I doubt that is going to happen. I am in a mean mood today aren’t I?
AYE!!!!!!!!
You all may go to hell and I will go to Texas.
D. Crockett, 1835
Still a good idea, Texas being the opposite of hell.
The illegal alien thingie is gratuitous. Calling him a “Killer” would suffice.
If an American were accused of murder in a foreign country, sentenced to die, and not allowed to visit with a consulate or embassy, you’d be foaming at the mouth and probably support a full fledged invasion of that country.
Sometimes there’s a bigger picture and it would do you all some to good to take a look at it.
Aye.
>the rest of them can go to hell.
Not sure about the rest…but this killer definitely will go to hell within a second of his execution.
Aye!
Second the Davy Crockett quote also.
Thank God I live here in a state where outlaws are still executed, women are protected and revered more than elsewhere, and we drink whiskey for ourselves and our horses drink beer when Justice is done. Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em.
Subsunk
Subsunk
Correct me in my ignorance of International law (which I think is generally BS any way), but wouldn’t there be an assumption that this would only apply to someone in a foreign country LEGALLY? I would think that by violating a sovreign nations borders, you give up rights to international law.
If you don’t like our laws, don’t come here illegally and then murder our citizens. Problem solved.
Time (actually overdue) to withdraw from and evict the U.N.
I’d throw in a hundred bucks for a lotto ticket “to pull the switch” with the proceeds going to the families.
If an American illegally goes into a foreign country, kills two girls, is tried and convicted, it works for me.
There is a price to pay for murder.
and…
aye!
If an American illegally entered a country to rape and murder I’d have no objections to the other country carrying out the sentence. Remember the boy who was caned in Indonesia? How about the Americans aiding and abetting the terrorists in South America?
I have a cat named Rusty. Stop making him look ignorant.
There isn’t a corner of hell cold enough for this scumbag to hide in.
Good riddance!
Godspeed to the Ertman and Pena families. Those of us in Houston that saw this unfold are forever tainted by the story and our prayers are with y’all.
Poor cat.
RUSTY:
Sorry but I don’t think the world court has any business in the US legal system. I will never support the ICC and would consider it an impeachable offense for any public servant who did. Because it would place the ICC above the constitution.
How can we, when you’re constantly beating us over the head with it?
I mean, would providing this convicted criminal with everything he asks further the cause of justice? Would it actually change the fact that he was found guilty? (And justly so.) Or is it that you’re upset because he doesn’t have the overt means to over turn his deserved conviction?
If an American snuck across Mexico’s border illegally and raped and murdered two teenage girls I would have the exact same response. Execution.
Rusty,
Jose Medellin was given a fair trial in a transparent court system and his legal team was kindly paid for by the taxpayers of Texas.
If an American illegally entered another country and committed the crimes that Jose did, you really wouldn’t find much sympathy for him. Furthermore, any country that is inclined to imprison people with no regard for their rights is not suddenly going to reverse their stance because we don’t execute this man.
And no, the World Court does not trump our laws in this country. They can voice an opinion but we don’t have any obligation to listen to them.
hey jose, cry me a river. another gutless coward who can’t even be man enough to accept responsibility for his actions. tomorrow when he checks out, think I’ll have a cold one.
I’m thinking of changing his name. Wouldn’t want to subconciously saddle him with low expectations.
Ditto. If an American is in another country illegally, they have no rights. If a non-american is in the U.S. illegally, they have no rights. IMHO.
And if you rape and murder people, you should be executed. This guy isn’t even alleging he’s innocent, he’s just doesn’t want to be executed. He’d rather live in a U.S. prison at taxpayer expense for the next 50 years.
No thanks!
He’s already had 15 more years of life than his victims had.
Dear Jose,
Don’t fear the reaper.
Signed,
Blue Oyster Cult ERRRRR Ted Bundy
P.S. see you in hell – in a few hours!
*out*
How do you say “JUICE HIS CABOOSE!” in Spanish?
Does this sound familiar? Hint, Jamiel Shaw. This victim when to the same high school and played football just like Jamiel. Both gunned down by a latino gang banger. For all the amnesty lovers, please pay special attention: THEY ARE AT WAR WITH US!
This victim went*
I agree with everyone else. If an American were illegally living in another country and killed two of their citizens, I would say hang him.
I fully supported Singapore executing that Vietnamese-Australian gangster who tried to import drugs into that country. If an American were doing the same thing, I would support his execution.
Liberals, like Rusty, are ALWAYS the ugly Americans. They support gangsters and murderers and are against the death penalty, then turn right around and support the murder of unborn children. The only reason Rusty supports this guy is because he murdered two Americans and was an illegal.
No wonder no one in the world respects liberals.
That’s a presumption and a rather large one at that. Rusty, you should not build arguments projecting what we would say or think.
If an American illegally entered another land and raped and killed two young girls, it is ridiculous to suggest that we would be “foaming at the mouth” to protect him.
…and sometimes we should stick to the context of the situation at hand instead of trying to educate on being better “world citizens”.
On August 4th, 2008 at 11:55 am, DogBreath said
Remember the boy who was caned in Indonesia?
That was in Singapore. But, I agree, he deserved every one of those hits. Comedian Bill Engval said,”If I were that boys parents, I would have bought that cane and hung it over his bedroom door. Then when he misbehaved, I would threaten to call ‘Mr. Fuji’.”
Also, if you want to change your cats name to “Tre”, I don’t mind.
Ah Rusty, it’s charming how you never tire of straw man arguments that rest on your certainty of what we think or what we’d do.
The fact is we’re not talking about someone scooped up by a famously corrupt police force and denied due process. This animal was given the full benefit of the US Criminal Justice system which (flawed though it is) remains the most transparent, suspect-friendly venue in the world.
Sounds to me like the Supreme Court did look at it.
My hope, Rusty, is that you are one day made to live with the consequences of the policies you advocate.
AYE !
What many people may not know about this
animalmonster (it was an unfair to animals comparison) was that he abducted two 15 year old girls who were on their way home. He and his gang raped and tortured them repeatedly for HOURS before killing them. It was all apart of a gang initiation. I pray they get the rest of them and put them out of our misery as well.My cats name is MoJo because he has one. He votes AYE also. No mercy for legal or illegal criminals.
My bad. That’s what I get for trying to rely on my memory.
I think I’ll keep calling him Rusty. Why should he have to suffer confusion for the action of a fool. Maybe the other Rusty can change his for for the sake of animal rights.
I believe he will, and soon.
MEET YOUR MAKER , DIRTBAG, and feel His wrath.
And anyone outside the US with an opposition opinion, SHUT UP.
I’m not a big fan of the World Court either. My objections are that American entered into an international treaty and Texas broke it.
I know retrials are expensive, but giving this monster consulate access won’t change the evidence.
Allowing states to violate international treaties is a dangerous precedent and something that puts the lives of Americans abroad in jeopardy.
Don’t Mess With Texas!
I think I’m detecting the stunned silence of a liberal whose straw man was just burnt to the ground!
Don’t break laws when you go abroad. There, problem solved.
#45 Rusty
Constitution Trumps Treaties Period!
Go back to Civics Class
When the shepherds refuse to guard the sheep… wolves come, and the wolves are here.
If you go to the article, you’ll notice that the writer reminds us several times that it’s not the killer’s fault that he raped then choked and stomped Elizabeth and Jennifer to death. First, “…Medellin — 5 feet, 5 inches tall and weighing just 135 pounds — grabbed Elizabeth and flipped her to the ground….” Implication: this guy is small! If Elizabeth had REALLY wanted to get away, she could have. (Maybe she even wanted it!) Next, the writer pulls out the old classic “[Medellin] grew up in poverty amid drug abuse and an unstable home environment.” Implication: if we hadn’t fallen down on the job and involved Medellin in after-school activities such as ping pong, Jennifer and Elizabeth would still be alive.
Dang, I left my bullcrap deciphering glasses at home today. Now all I can see from Rusty is “Wahh wahh wahh… blah blah blah… it’s all America’s fault…. blah blah blah”.
AYE!!!!
Texas didn’t violate the treaty. They didn’t deny him consular access, the perp didn’t know he was entitled and didn’t ask for it. Since (as you just admitted) that access would not have affected the outcome there’s no reason to re-try him.
And the reason they want to re-try him is because the evidence absolutely is affected. The crime was committed 15 years ago. Trying to prove certain guilt fifteen years after the fact would be extraordinarily difficult, and even if they did it they’d just be looking at another 15 years of appeals before they could finally kill this sorry excuse for pond scum.
The hell with that. Strap him to the chair and be done with it.
The USSC apparently agrees with me.
Medellin, 33, will die for the 1993 rape-strangulation of two teenage Houston girls, Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Peña.
Hell, this monster has LIVED in prison longer than these two innocent children were given the chance to live. Jennifer Ertman was 11 years old and Elizabeth Peña was 14. Their families have waited 15 years for justice to be done.
Get a rope!!
Oh please. Like our enemies observe international law anyway. They never have except when it suits them.
Terran Firebat: Need a light?
He wasn’t accused. He confessed and bragged about to his confessors. You sir, a goddammed, simple minded a$$. Enuff said about you and your hero Jose Medellin.
I’ll help you Phiberop, and tell you what Die Hippie Die would tell you; Rusty said ‘queef queef queef’
LOLOLOL
There, fixed it for you. The Supreme Court determined that President Bush entered into an unconstitutional treaty that infringed on the state rights of Texas. The President is allowed to engage in treaties (with the approval of Congress), as long as the treaties do not infringe on other Constitutional powers, such as those granted to the States.
I actually live in Texas. I wrote the Governor this AM and ecncouraged him to honor our laws, our decency, and have this murderer and rapist executed as planned. Jose Medellin has already lived 15 more years than he should have. As one of the commetors have already said, “JUICE HIS CABOOSE!!”
In my understanding, the Vienna Convention stipulates that an alien can request assistance from their consulate. The issue here that seems to be ignored is that Medellin did not request consular assistance until several years after his conviction. His lack of request does not equal negligence on the part of Texas. Anyone who thinks the U.S. has violated any agreement it entered into is wrong.
I, for one, am content with the knowledge that one more murderous thug will be removed from the planet tomorrow.
there is a fast lane reserved just for Jose Medellin on the highway to hell tomorrow. And as far as Mexico and the UN go they can buckle up and car pool with this animal into the pit.
And I forgot to add that this is yet another time I am grateful to be living deep in the heart of Texas!
James, EXACTLY.
from rusted;
Its not that he was not allowed consulate access, it was WHEN he was ‘allowed’.
Illegals don’t have those rights, except in the minds of liberals and outsiders who blame America for everything.
Go away Rusted, not Rusty the cat, just the Anarchist oxidized commenter.
WRONG! Liberals have no understanding of human nature. All our barbaric enemies are not going to follow something that they signed. Other civilized countries will, with or without a piece of paper signed. This is why “agreements” and “treaties” with barbarians are useless.
This is what liberals never understand. It is liberals that put American lives at stake when they insist on diplomacy with barbarians.
Ah, Rusty…by some chance is your password AFLAC? Because everytime you log in you become a sitting duck…
Just reviewed this.
Why is it that Democrats are arguing over who’s legislation is toughest in dealing with “invasive species” that threaten plants or animals, but they do the exact opposite when it comes to an invasion of illegal aliens that rape, kill and injure human beings that happen to be law-abiding American citizens??
As a former corpsman I bet I could administer the dose of drugs for the state at no charge. I would even pay my own way from Dallas to Huntsville for the priviledge.
Rusty #12 said “Sometimes there’s a bigger picture and it would do you all some to good to take a look at it.”
I see the bigger picture, when he killed these two children, he also killed their future children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, ect.
Does anybody know when this piece of human debris will assume room temperature? I suggest we all ceremoniously crack open a cold one and hoist it in celebration at that time.
Rusty – it is the height of hypocrisy to denounce the perfectly legal sentence of death, but to endorse a woman’s right to choose to slaughter an unborn child. Both have been validated by SCOTUS, yet you seem to think it’s OK to abort an unborn and completely innocent child, while lecturing us on why this dirtbag’s execution should be stayed. Sounds to me like you’re pro-life when it comes to scumbags and pro-death when it comes to children.
I pity you.
Phiber0P, you are in luck today. I just happen to have my BS deciphering glasses with me today. Let me decipher that for you: Wahh wahh wahh… blah blah blah… it’s all America’s fault…. blah blah blah
It appears that you may not need those glasses after all.
I may be completely mistaken about this,but I was always under the impression that the only time the so-called ‘World Court’ had any jurisdiction in a case was when both sides agreed to submit their dispute for a binding verdict to the Court…such as in the case some years ago about disputed fishing rights off the Grand Banks between the U.S. and Canada…that was not the case here…the State of Texas had never had any such intent….just goes to show ya…you come to Texas and kill somebody like that,we’ll kill you right back…..stick in the needle,take out the trash
We are missing the point here. Liberals do not care if our enemies follow treaties or not. The point is to hobble the U.S. by any means possible. Law of the Sea anyone? How’s Clinton’s treaty w/ north Korea working? When they broke that (10 seconds after it was signed),I heard no howls of protest over that from the left.
Buh Bye. Scumbag.
El Zappo!
Rusty, let me tell you what the bigger picture is. This subhuman took the lives of two innocent young people and thus forfeitted his right to live. He has to be executed because we are incapable of providing the proper judgement and sentence. This subhuman has to stand in the court of the Almighty to receive his penalty. Whether we want to believe it or not, this is the bigger picture. Take a good look at that.
#12 rusty said:
The Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena rape and murder:
Big enough picture for you, rusty?
They only care if a treaty being broken violates their liberal agenda. Do as I say, not as I do. The treaty was Unconstitutional to begin with, as anything that places itself higher than our own Constitution is illegal and a farce. Which is why the Supreme Court shot Rusty’s argument clear out of the water a long time ago. He’s just still pissed the dirtbag is going to be executed tomorrow. For me, I’ll be drinking a cold one in celebration of removing one of the minions of destruction and death from this earth and sending him to be judged for his crimes in the only real court that matters.
Bonus for you Rusty the fool:
Double bonus analysis of the Supreme Court decision from Andy McCarthy as a refresher:
So, are talking around midnight tonight? His death will certainly be worth celebrating.
I say put it on pay per view and give the victim’ family the money.
Just so you know, I owe you one. I just spewed water all over my desk. =p
Breg Man I just spoke to the Aflac duck, and he’s pretty pissed at you right now. Hope you don’t get hurt and can’t work in the near future =D
This crap is ALL the more reason for us to withdraw from the United Nations
Exactly! And I also see the bigger picture about this as well. Now this monster won’t pro-create either.
AYE!
Go Texas!
Middle digit to the UN! Why the UN or world court felt that this thug’s life was worth their time is beyond me.
Yes Rusty, retrials are expensive, paid for by the legal citizens of the State of Texas, of which I am one. This animal has already had several trials and appeals at my expense. His guilt has been established beyond any and all reasonable doubt and all appeals have upheld this. There is no reason whatsoever for an additional trial.
Giving this monster consulate access won’t change the outcome, but 15 years passed since the original trial might.
Rusty, your motives here are all too transparent. You want a new trial for this murderer for the same reason all death penalty opponents constantly want a new trial for their favorite monsters… Double Jeopardy. No matter how many times these societial rejects are found guilty of their crimes, all you have to do is continue to judge-shop and find one worthless liberal POS that will ignore the evidence and let him walk.
Medellin is guilty of rape and murder. He deserved to die long ago for his crimes. Were it up to me, he’d die like his victims, slow and screaming. But die he should, the sooner the better.
The air in Texas will be sweeter tomorrow with this sub-human scum no longer breathing it.
Since childhood I’ve been baffled as to why we bankroll an organization that exists primarily to work against our interests. Surely the tiny handful of things the UN does well (WHO comes to mind) could be done independently of that cesspool.
And don’t even get me started on oil-for-food.
International Law?
Is that the law by which US/Allied POWs taken in Iraq were beheaded on video that was plastered all over the Internet?
GIVE ME A BREAK!
Tre, you obviously do not read English as your first language nor do you read with compehension. Why not ask the same mercy for Medellin that he showed for his victims. But to simplify, Ron White says: In Texas we have the death penalty. And we USE it. That’s right, if you come to Texas and kill somebody, we will kill you back. Get it tre, now go to your room.
Another illegal alien costing American tax payers millions.
It is to bad escalation of deadly force was not use on this perp during his crime. It would have saved us a lot of money.
Hey, since when did we become a nation of laws.
Somebody forgot to notify me!
AYE !
If access to the consular wouldnt change the verdict or the evidence, AND the fact he didnt ask for it until 4 years AFTER the fact…
Oh well.
This kind of scum makes me sometimes wish that we still had the guillotine.
Or a headsman. A huge axe works just as well.
Medellin, may what lies on the other side offer you no relief for the remainder of eternity. Burn.
Reminds me of the character Michael Bolton in Office Space…
Samir: “Why don’t you just go by Mike instead of Michael?”
Michael: “No way. Why should I change? He’s the one who sucks!”
Neither of which would enlarge our carbon footprint. Here’s an idea Liberals can get behind!
There are currently 51 Mexican nationals on death row in the U.S. Let’s speed things up a little, huh!!!
There are more coming every day.
I say he should spend his last day in the general population and let the prisoners have some fun.
I don’t think god is the one he is going to be seeing…