Illegal alien Death Row rapist/killer’s last-ditch appeal
The world court and President Bush tried and failed to stop the execution of illegal alien Death Row killer Jose Medellin.
Texas told ‘em to bug off–and the Supreme Court backed Texas.
Medellin faces execution tomorrow. The U.N. and the international meddlers are whining. Now, Medellin’s lawyers have filed one last-ditch appeal to subvert our national sovereignty and delay justice:
“Texas. It’s like a whole other country.”
Coined to promote tourism, that wry verbal wink at the state’s mythic image has assumed a literal meaning as Texas finds itself in defiance of the United Nations, the Organization of American States and national leaders in its planned Tuesday execution of Mexican citizen Jose Medellin.
Unless the U.S. Supreme Court or Gov. Rick Perry acts in his favor, Medellin, 33, will die for the 1993 rape-strangulation of two teenage Houston girls, Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Peña.
Jennifer’s father, Randy Ertman, dismissed international opposition to the execution.
“It’s just a last-ditch effort to keep the scumbag breathing,” Ertman said. “He never should have been breathing in the first place. I don’t care, I really don’t care what anyone thinks about this except Texas. I love Texas. Texas is in my blood.”
At issue is Texas’ refusal to hold a hearing to determine whether Medellin’s defense was harmed by his inability to confer with Mexican consular officials at the time of his arrest. A suspect’s right to talk with his consulate is guaranteed by the United Nations’ Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, to which the United States is a party.
Medellin insists he told both Houston police and Harris County officers that he is a Mexican citizen. Prosecutors say the killer never informed authorities of his nationality.
In a sworn statement, Medellin said he learned that the Mexican Consulate could possibly help him in 1997, four years after his arrest. He unsuccessfully petitioned the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals on the issue in 1998.
In 2004, the U.N.’s world court, responding to a Mexican lawsuit against the United States, ordered that hearings be held for Medellin and dozens of other inmates denied their consular rights. In 2005, President Bush called for the hearings to be held. Texas challenged the decision, and the Supreme Court determined that only Congress could mandate such action. In July, the world court ordered Medellin’s execution be stayed.
The proper response? Murder victim Jennifer Ertman’s father, Randy, says its all:
“The world court don’t mean diddly. This business belongs in the state of Texas … the rest of them can go to hell.”
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Nothing I need add to #1. AYE.
I agree. The “World Court” and the UN can join this murdering scumbag in Hell. Adios Amigo!
I recommend lethal injection as “Ol’ Sparky” has a big carbon footprint.
There goes Rusty the Misogynist again, defending a murderous rapist of women.
Can’t add anyhing to that – it just bears repeating.
Mr. Ertman-great words…”…the rest of them can go to hell.”
Why are we still “bowing” to the ‘world court’ and the corrupt U.N.?
Pay attention to Jennifer’s’ “Pa,”
Instead of international law,
Give him the needles,
No matter who whines and who wheedles,
Send Medellin straight to Hell’s gaping maw.
All too often an American languishes in foreign jails and the US State Department refuses to get involved. The US State Department is more concerned with the foreign country than US Citizens.
I think that would get the job done.
Pretty ironic for this guy Medellin (and his bleeding-heart supporters) to now be complaining that the State of Texas is somehow rushing to punishment.
My advice to Jose Medellin – “be a true playa’, esé. If you wanna be offing 13 and 14 year old girls after you be ripping them apart orally, vaginally and anally with your homies…then stand up and be a real hombre, esé. Your hiding behind the skirts of the World Court, ACLU, Open-Borders pussy(cats) makes you look like one too, esé. Stand up and keep it real, esé. Ride and die, esé. Do the crime, do the time, esé. Don’t be crying to you momma now, esé.”
And now this “gangbanger” is whining about not getting to talk to some embassy bureaucrat?
Wow, what a Mexican crybaby.
WE NEED TO KILL ALL THESE INVADERS
I just read this article that shows how much the illegals are now running the show in many places, and it is coming to a city near you soon.
Texas – The United State of America
“Texas. It’s like a whole [n]other country.”
Fixed it.
Fry him, and the world court be damned.
Rob, do you know how demented you sound?
Now I think I understand a bumper sticker I saw: I’m not from Texas but I got here as quick as I could.
People who need a rope around their necks themselves probably don’t understand Texas justice anyway.
I suppose demented is in the mind of the beholder. I simply want all the murderous invading thugs killed.
Well, not to pick, but…yeah, putting everything in bold capital letters (screaming in text as it were) about killing “all the invaders” tends to make you look a little demented.
Rob,
The way things are going you might get your wish. Frankly I see something like this actually happening. Inaction is breeding a level of hatred. We keep getting pushed around..Someones going to break bad. I want to be around when the camel’s back breaks.
atheling,
In which state do you live? Here in Arizona its at times almost all out war. Nearly 30% of those in prison are here illegally. Maybe instead of killing them all maybe killing only 30% of them would work? I will hoist a cold one tomorrow if this trash is taken out.
Did any of you read the posts I put above with the lists of mexican murders on the most wanted lists, the taggers that are KILLING people??? THESE ARE THE ONES THAT NEED TO BE KILLED. Or do you only read words in capitals?
Why we are putting up with people like this when we outnumber them. Let the police or government handle it? WHEN?
I don’t want to kill all the invaders… but the trash must be thrown out.
Rob:
Well, you should have specified that at first, instead of typing in all caps, screaming to kill all the invaders. Sheesh.
Azygos:
I WANT THE ILLEGALS OUT. GONE. BACK TO MEXICO.
BUT IT UNDERMINES OUR CAUSE TO WRITE IN ALL CAPS AND SCREAM TO “KILL THEM ALL”. THAT’S CRAZY.
BTW, HOW DO YOU LIKE BEING SCREAMED AT IN ALL CAPS, AMIGO?
Well, we did. but there’s are ways and means to communicating your point.
And by nature, people are going to pay more attention to the large, bold print than the rest.
I sympathize with what you’re trying to say, and i agree…we need to deal with people who come here illegally and murder innocent people. But there’s a way to get your point across without putting others off, and still having them rally to your cause.
Don’t let them get to you Rob. I believe everyone knows what you were trying to say. It reminds me of an old Arlo Guthrie song.
If one person says kill them all, they say that he is demented.
If two people says kill them all, they are faggots.
But if three people says kill them all, it’s a movement.
The Rob Movement of selective immigration.
atheling, I don’t care of you use CAPs when you type cuz most of the time you use CRAP when you type.
I think if we had guards on a border wall, we would only have to shoot a few. Lives saved on both sides that way.
Putting others off means pretending to be politically correct to appease the liberals. The only thing that will change a liberal’s mind is having their children killed or raped by an illegal. And as the numbers increase and increae, sooner or later it will affect enough sheeple that things will change…
Rob:
You are demented. And impolitic. We agree with you that we don’t want illegals here, but we disagree with your method. And then you call us PC? Dude, you’re pathetic. You argue like a libtard.
You’re the one who previously said that you have been perusing white supremacist groups’ websites. You typed in all caps that you wanted all the invaders killed.
And then you get upset when we question your sanity?
BTW, as far as “using crap” when I type goes, no, dummy, I use a keyboard.
If Jose doesn’t want to die, he should have stayed in Mexico.
since he came here and committed murdered, Fry his A$$.
Atheling, I am sure Rob is just tired of this. Read the comment section on that bit of news. It’s not just Rob. When you take the other links I provided from just today’s headlines (1 deputy shot to death because of his job watching the Mexican Maffia Gang in the county jail, then another story about a 16 year old football player gunned down by a latino gang memeber similar to Jamiel Shaw’s case) it gets frustrating that our leaders do nothing to fix the problem. On the other hand, they go out of their way to protect the gang members.
They are at war with us. Serious, read the comments on that posting board and you will see anger on both sides. From the Illegals posting to the American fighting to keep his land.
atheling, I live in the toliet that the illegals are turning Southern California into.. I just see things throgh a browner pair of glasses than you have at this time… but give it time, give it time.
I am a problem solver, not a politician. Give me a few squads of American marines and I could make my part of the world safe for Americans again.
And anybody that is so into the “reality” of the internet that he gets upset by “shouting” with capital letters is pathetic. THEY ARE JUST CAPITAL LETTERS. I have looked at some white websites and they are as stupid as the Daily Kos. Any moron can have a computer, and most do… enjoy your keyboard.
He should have been executed ten years ago for his 1993 rape-strangulation of two teenage Houston girls, Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Peña.
John Ansell:
Yes, I see that Rob is tired of this. So am I. But we have a 5th column obstructing any efforts to solve our illegal problem. And Rob FEEDS that 5th column with his shrill, irrational and hateful spewings.
Yes, he claims that he is no politician. But neither am I. However, I know well enough that making stupid comments like his HURTS our cause, because that 5th column will dismiss his rantings and assume that we ALL share the same sentiment.
We live by a rule of law, not by emotions. And being “tired”, or “upset”, is no excuse for rantings about killing people. No sane person would regard our cause as a just one, so long as we make stupid errors like Rob has.
Sorry, but there is no excuse for it, unless he is 6 years old.
Your point is well taken but I just heard another report on the news of another dead American at the hand of an illegal. When it’s linked to a news paper, I’ll post it. It should be later today but latest tomorrow. That’s at least 3 dead in as many days. So when Rob types about killing people, the illegal invaders are actually doing it. That’s all I’m saying.
John Ansell:
And I hope that scum is tried, found guilty, and executed – through a court of law.
Me too, Atheling. I know we are fighting on the same side of this issue. It just amazes me that the Los Angeles city council will wory about fast food joints going up in poor neighborhoods, and getting a plastic bag tax, yet they will not take up Jamiel’s law. It’s sick.
“Texas. It’s like a whole other country.”
Coined to promote tourism, that wry verbal wink at the state’s mythic image has assumed a literal meaning as Texas finds itself
in defiance ofrejecting the meddling of the United Nations, the Organization of American States and national leaders in its planned Tuesday execution of Mexican citizen Jose MedellinFixed it.
How would meeting with members of the consulate have any effect on the outcome of this case? About the only action the Mexican consulate could have done was plead for his life.
Yes, it is unfortunate that this man made such bad decisions in his life. But he brutally killed these young girls and execution is the result. I do not celebrate when an execution is per formed (ok, I did when Gacy died, I’m from where he killed at) but for some, deathe is the correct sentence.
What time is this going to be carried out?
I must say that I am very proud of my home state. Go Texas. We need to tell the World Court to stay out of our business. If we have some sort of treaty recognizing this, then it is time to do away with it.
Es tiempo mátarlo a José.
It would be nice if the government of Mexico or the international community for that matter showed one tenth the concern for the victim’s families as it has for its murderous citizen. And perhaps if they were truly concerned over this matter, they would do a little more to insure that its citizens don’t murder and rape our children.
Texas did not violate any lawful treaty. Fortunately we have something called the Constitution, which reserves all powers not specifically granted to the federal government in that document to the individual states. And any treaty made by the federal government cannot be in violation of the provisions of the Constitution. The Constitution trumps any conflicts.
In addition, the defendant in question had moved to the US as a young child. He was not denied access to the Mexican consulate and undoubtedly never had a clue that his status as an illegal possibly vested him with greater protection than a US citizen. And the fact that he did not have a pow wow with the Mexican Counsul was, at best, a procedural issue that would not have changed the outcome of the trial or the sentence one bit.
The UN and the world court are the ones that should be chastised here. They attempted to recklessly exceed any authority they had to violate the sovereignity of not only the State of Texas but the United States. Let them take their third world union and screw up some other country tht doesn’t have the backbone to tell them to go to hell.
The people of the State of Texas have spoken.
Wasn’t Gacy down state Rob? Eitherway, I’m glad Gacy got what was his due.
Randy Ertman as a VP pick anyone?
No, It’s the illegal ivader gang banger that’s in the wrong place at the wrong time.
About 15 years too late.
The amount of ignorance on this thread is shocking. Constitution > treaties? What!? President Bush’s treaty? Huh!? The detained foreign national must request to speak to a consulate?
All of those things are wrong.
The Vienna Convention compels states to inform the foreign consulate when a foreign national is arrested. Medellin didn’t need to ask for diddly-squat. Texas denied him this right.
This treaty was completely Constitutional. No one has ever argued that except for some harebrained commenters.
The Supreme Court argued that the treaty was not “self-executing” and therefore not enforceable. This is madness. The 10th Amendment didn’t apply since treaties were already explicitly mentioned in Article II of the Constitution. Furthermore, most treaties aren’t “self-executing.” The Supreme Court managed to nullify a slew of international treaties based on a new reading of Constitutional law. And yet it’s always the liberals who are referred to as the activists?
This lack of support for international treaties is a slap in the face to countries that have honored their obligations. It puts American civilians at risk. Why should a country that hates America bother informing a consulate if an American citizen is accused of a crime on their soil?
167 countries signed the VCCR. I bet there are quite a few enemies in there.
Gacy lived on the Far NW side of Chicago. I went to school with the brother of one of his victims. Sad to see first hand how evil can affect people. Oh and by the way.he was a Democratic Precinct Captain
Rust, tell that to Daniel Pearl….Oh wait, you can’t. Move along.
LOL… antiquated rules. Time to kick ass. Cut off the heads of the terrorists if we can find them after the nuke radiation settles. Illegals, are illegal, they aren’t obeying any laws, nor should we…
Countries that do what we want them to do have nothing to worry about…
Mexico is a terrorist nation sending its evil people into our country. They are doing so on purpose, with guidebooks and I don’t care about them one little bit.
We are going to spend so much time being civilized that we will lose our civilization.
Thanks Chicago Robb, for some reason I was thinking he was in the Springfield area as I remember a lot stories about him. Even that he got praise from Gov. Thompson. I’m glad to see Gracy gone.
I know I’m getting on this thread real late, but for what it’s worth this mad dog is finally going to be put down so he can never get the opportunity to harm anyone else’s little girl. If it where up to me he would have been presenting his last appeal to Saint Peter a few months after being sentence by the good people of Texas before being cast into the pit for his just reward.
Red blooded Americans can be just as brutal as any Mexican immigrant. Here’s an account of a brutal murder of a Mexican by some Pennsylvania white boys.
LGm, I saw that the other day and it looked like a street fight gone bad. If he was not here illegally would the fight have taken place? See, he should have obeyed the laws. Actions have Consequences.
I take it you don’t have a law degree.
It shows.
I hope they use an infected needle.
I agree, I was just wondering what time to raise my glass. I know that won’t sit well with some here but I have a 12 year old daughter. If this had happened to her, I would be on the row with this POS.
<blockquote lgm 7:04 pm:
So bad behavior on the part of one justifies it on the part of another? I don’t get your point.
They should bring back burning at the stake for scum like this!
This slime deserves everything he gets — you take a life senselessly, we’ll take yours in good sense.
Oh now I can post a good one on that, but I’ll pass. It was along a lines of not being a good idea because a certain type of fires is hard to put out.
On August 4th, 2008 at 7:04 pm, lgm said:
What has race got to do with this thread? The point here is that Texas has a right to make and enforce its own laws and to pass and execute sentence on lawbreakers.
Stop trying to misdirect with your lame and pitifully obvious attempts to demogog the issue.
Ok, now hurry up and get back to Kos to cut and paste your next load of non sequiturs.
That’s right. International sign language anyone?
One very important point here:
Texas has seen fit through proper legal channels to execute a convicted murderer following a fair trial and many appeals.
It is Texas’ right to do so and our Constitution is written to support state’s rights. That is how we formed our Union, by allowing the states to handle justice for any laws not covered by the federal system. That also translates as no other government shall be placed above Texas in this matter.
Our Union is the United States of America and we are watching a valuable civics lesson. No member of the World Court has any say in Texas. They do not pay taxes nor do they reside there. They can issue proclamations and opinions, but those are similar to *ssholes (everyone has them and they all stink).
Until the day that Texas and the rest of the United States are forced into submission, then the rest of the world can stick it. At least Texas holds firm to the laws they legally enacted.
Hey U.N. and other international legal bodies: how is that oil-for-food investigation going?
One more thing: if some court orders a re-trial on the basis of attorney incompetence, shouldn’t the attorney be barred for life? If they cannot realize the importance of a capital crime trial, then they have no business plying their trade in any court.
No human being is illegal…unless they’re on death row. Only then do they want to be found as an illegal alien.
Of course, I meant disbarred…
The ever turning Wheels of Karma cannot be stopped. The State of Texas will assist this dirt bag in keeping his Karmatic Appointment. I pray his pain at the hands of the Asuras is great as his Atman is purged and cleansed prior to his rebirth as the lowest of lifeforms so that he may slowly earn his way back to human form. Aum. Dharma will be fulfilled!
Hang the son of a b*tch anyways.
Mexico has sent us several million of its citizens; if they get so worked up about our killing one or two every now and then, perhaps they should send them somewhere else in the future.
cabrerski:
Well said.
The world court can kiss our a**.
This is not quite true. They are equal in some cases, according to some Supreme Court cases a couple of decades ago. (Darn it.) (and double darn it!)
Yes Kevin K.
This is true. But this is the last act of a desparate man (and trial team). Just because he said he was denied consular intervention, doesn’t mean it happened. For some reason, people accused of capital crimes (and their lawyers) make outrageous claims (and some may be true). But this is pure bunk to go by the word of a dispicable person such as Medillen and hold it as gospel.
I love the smell of justice in the morning…one less scumbag living on the taxpayer’s dime.
Treaties are covered by the federal system. If the Vienna Convention were “self-executing,” this killer would have a right to a retrial.
Good luck finding the term “self-executing” in Article II.
It just bugs me so much since SCOTUS ruled that an international treaty has to very carefully fit under state law. It’s arrogant to think that every treaty needs to be specifically tailored to American needs.
Rusty,
Isn’t this why treaties have to be approved by the U.S. Senate? Besides, let’s say for the moment that Medellin was denied access to consular advisement…shouldn’t his lawyer pay the piper. Seems to me that if you do not identify yourself as an illegal and you do not do so for your counsel, then that’s your hard luck.
I am curious what the Mexican consulate would say anyways… (in Spanish)”Senor Medellin, if you did these crimes and are found guilty, you will more than likely be put to death. Hasta la bye-bye.”
There. Much better. Next time you want to finish with a soaring coda- be sure to compare apples with apples.
Caberski, the VCCR, which was approved by the Senate, states that Texas authorities were compelled to inform the Mexican consulate.
And you’re right, him meeting with the consulate would have probably done very little other than him maybe getting hooked up with better attorneys. Which I guess is my point. This missed step by Texas is jeopardizing a treaty designed to protect American citizens!
Craig, whether the person is in the country legally or illegally doesn’t affect the treaty. So, yeah, apples and apples.
On August 4th, 2008 at 8:36 pm, CO2 Producer said:
Excellent point!
Jose Medellin didn’t even tell anyone his nationality for quite some time after his arrest, so this is the fault of the murderer for clamming up to the authorities, not the fault of the State of Texas.
Rusty, could you please provide an example where Mexico paid for the attorneys of any of its criminals in the US? If anything, this would have been another opportunity for Mexican nationalists to bash America for the death penalty. Mexico doesn’t give a damn about Mexicans. That’s why Mexicans flee Mexico for America.
You might want to check out the situation of American citizens when gratuitously arrested in the developing world. Basically, Americans are regarded as targets for extortion by the “legal” system. You can spend a long time in a nasty jail until you pay the bribes needed to spring you, even if you are completely innocent or falsely charged.
Last of all, it’s ludicrous for a World Court to impose its rule on us. The last I heard, America elects its government. We do not outsource our legal system to some arrogant European World Court which seeks to undermine our sovereignty. That goes double for Texas. Should the World Court want to impose its contemptible law upon us, they best bring enough guns to back it up and prepare for a fight they will lose.
Wait, I thought those on the left didn’t want police asking if a person was here illegally?
I am SO looking forward to this! Party time is “after” 6 p.m. CDT, Tuesday.
It would not be right to take joy in this man’s execution for peripheral reasons, if he did not thoroughly deserve it. Not a problem. The scumbag is completely deserving.
But the needle being pushed into his vein gives me no more pleasure than the thumb that will be metaphorically jammed into the eye of the international law crowd and their running dog, Jorge Bush. And I really appreciate the convenient scheduling. I hate those Monday night football games that go on past mid-night, and, similarly, I like to enjoy this sort of affair at a civilized hour.
God Bless Texas.
maybe we can import some of that will to the PRC and start executing the scum in San Quentin?
Americans arrogant? Never!
On the main issue.. this guy has been proven to be guilty…and I understand the need for punishment for his most evil crimes.
I just disagree with the death penalty and some of the blood-thirsty comments on this thread pretty much reinforce my view on the matter.
Spilling blood as revenge… just seems so barbaric.. not many steps away from Islamic “revenge” which causes many members here much foaming of the mouth.
Hard labor… lots of it… make the bugger work every single day hacking the biggest rocks in the world… but to take another life to avenge the life taken? So middle ages… America doesn’t deserve to be on that list with Iran, China and Saudi Arabia…
Right. And you’re just arrogant enough to value the life over a criminal miscreant over his victim. There isn’t one damned thing wrong with giving this scumbag the death he so richly deserves. He EARNED it. Nice try on the moral relativism. Typical liberal crap.
Correction: “…the life of a criminal”….typo
On August 4th, 2008 at 6:10 pm, Rusty said:
The amount of ignorance on this thread is shocking. Constitution > treaties? What!? President Bush’s treaty? Huh!? The detained foreign national must request to speak to a consulate?
All of those things are wrong.
The Vienna Convention compels states to inform the foreign consulate when a foreign national is arrested. Medellin didn’t need to ask for diddly-squat. Texas denied him this right.
This treaty was completely Constitutional. No one has ever argued that except for some harebrained commenters.
The Supreme Court argued that the treaty was not “self-executing” and therefore not enforceable. This is madness. The 10th Amendment didn’t apply since treaties were already explicitly mentioned in Article II of the Constitution. Furthermore, most treaties aren’t “self-executing.” The Supreme Court managed to nullify a slew of international treaties based on a new reading of Constitutional law. And yet it’s always the liberals who are referred to as the activists?
This lack of support for international treaties is a slap in the face to countries that have honored their obligations. It puts American civilians at risk. Why should a country that hates America bother informing a consulate if an American citizen is accused of a crime on their soil?
167 countries signed the VCCR. I bet there are quite a few enemies in there.
That’s funny, because Medellin doesn’t deserve diddly squat, since he’s here ILLEGALLY and not an American citizen. When an amendment giving illegals the same rights as citizens is added to the Constitution, let us know.
Rusty:
That’s funny, because Medellin doesn’t deserve diddly squat, since he’s here ILLEGALLY and not an American citizen. When an amendment giving illegals the same rights as citizens is added to the Constitution, let us know.
There is a message here…If you want to pleasure yourself by taking the lives of two little girls…DON’T DO IT IN TEXAS…Try California they have a much higher tollerance for child molesters and killers.
It’s not often I can say this about this sanctuary state, but I will be a proud Texan come wednesday morning.
No it isn’t. It’s ludicrous to expect the World Court to enforce treaties that America hasn’t signed on to. But since President Kennedy (elected) and the Senate (elected) ratified this treaty, then, yes, an international authority should enforce it. We can’t, or at least shouldn’t, break treaties whenever we feel like it.
This is shockingly stupid. The treaty applies to foreign nationals.
Just more people on this thread that have no idea what they are talking about. Just a knee-jerk reaction to the idea of a World Court and people who want to kill another human being.
In the future, if you don’t like a treaty, urge the president to back out of it formally. That’s the right way to go about something like this.
F the world court. The same UN and the same World Court that looks the other way as actual genocide goes on around the world. Where are they when Iran hangs people off of cranes for being gay or not wearing the scarves? They are too busy trying to tell Texas what they can and cant do. To hell with them.
I propose we here in Texas fire up Ol’ Sparky one more time for this pile of excrement named Jose. Just to piss off the world court.
And on top of all that, this mother*&#$%* has had 15 years to appeal, he has had 15 years of eating food that my taxes paid for, 15 years of sleeping in a bed that my taxes paid for, 15 years of being willingly sodomized in a prison that my taxes paid for. I want some return on my investment.
Noted, chief! Btw, how do socks work? I’m having trouble keeping mine tied.
What happens in Texas, stays in Texas.
Good riddance and a lesson to others who may believe their (illegal) alien status somehow shields them from the U.S. Justice System, in the event they commit horrific acts like this sub-human did.
AYE!
Hurry up Rusty and lgm. Visiting hours are almost over.
Hell, forget the rope. Give me a cheese grater for the bastard.
(I lost my brother last year to a murdering POS, and they still haven’t found him. I’m angry enough.)
Any word on when this rapist and murderer goes to meet his maker today?
The BBC’s just-updated report ends with the following paragrah:
Medellin’s legal team are still hoping the Supreme Court will grant a stay of execution that would give Congress time to enact new legislation compelling US states to abide by ICJ decisions.
My fellow Americans: Do not look for lanterns hung in a church steeple to announce that the time has arrived to come with your guns. When the congress does this, then you will know that it is time.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7542794.stm
Rusty, I’ve taken some time to read the verdict from the SCOTUS. Their main point was that the verbage of the treaty, and the judgment of the World Court, could -not- superceed, alter, dictate, or amend current state or federal laws. The argument was that Medellin didn’t get his consular visit. While him not receiving this boon originally was an oversight, it changes neither the facts, nor his guilt.
But that was what the SCOTUS was saying…that other foreign powers don’t have the right to dictate how we handle our own affairs. To do so would sign over our sovereignty to basically whoever wants it outside of our own borders.
“After” 6 p.m. CDT. (I assume that that means ~at~ 6 p.m., allowing wriggle room for last-minute glitches.)
Wouldnt that be running backwards, based on what the SCOTUS ruled? Seems odd to me if they did something like that.
On my clock, 4:54 minutes until Medellin is executed.
For his crimes, this is still years overdue.
It certainly seems to me that it would. And yet, it is incredible that the SCOTUS has such a moment of lucidity in this case.
It would truly be remarkable to me if they ruled that the law did not support what they wanted just at the moment so they were going to forbid the execution to give lawmakers an opportunity to pass a law that they like. Such a thing, of course, would not really surprise me. It would merely ignite my violent rage.
Rusty:
Abstractmind beat me to it.
I’ll add though:
Let’s be honest here. This hand-wrangling over his consular visit is just a ploy by the anti-death penalty crowd. Are you seriously suggesting that the rest of the world will decide it will no longer treat Americans fairly because they didn’t give a loathsome POS like this his consular visit? Come on man. First off, a sizeable portion of the world wouldn’t treat American fairly in their courts under any circumstances. Secondly, out of the civilized nations, I don’t think either side’s government will loose sleep over whether or not a rapist and murderer’s case stuck to the exact letter of a treaty; treaties often being somewhat “flexible” anyway by their nature.
Good thing SCOTUS did the right thing this time. What’s up with them? First the DC gun thing, now this? Good for them.
It should be only moments now before aforementioned POS is permanently removed from existence… sweet.
agreed zero
and ignatius…lucid now, but lets see if they stay that way.