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Putting some heat on Dingy Harry, too

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 5, 2008 11:40 AM

In case Harry Reid was feeling left out of the fray as conservatives pound Do-Nothing Nancy, the American Future Fund has released an ad targeting the Senate Majority Leader’s vacation. Gone, but most definitely not forgotten:

Des Moines, IA – American Future Fund (AFF) today launched its latest radio ad, “Bargain,” which calls on Harry Reid to end his vacation and instead focus on the needs of Americans by scheduling a vote on S. 3202 to address high gas prices.

Reid adjourned the Senate last week, sending all 100 members on a five-week vacation, without holding a vote on this important piece of legislation.

The ad can be heard here: www.youtube.com/americanfuturefund.

“Weeks ago, AFF was calling on the Senate to stay until the job was finished, forgo their August vacation, and put in place a cohesive domestic energy policy,” said AFF Communications Director Tim Albrecht. “Unfortunately, the desire Americans have for the Senate to have a vote on this issue has fallen on deaf ears as Sen. Reid thought his vacation was more important than lowering gas prices.”

The ad buy runs statewide for two weeks in Nevada.

“Senator Reid’s refusal to do any work on this issue is a disservice to his constituents, and to every hard-working American family that finds themselves burdened with high energy prices,” said Albrecht.

Script:

ANNCR:

The issue: out of control energy prices.

How’s Harry Reid using his position as Majority Leader to help lower gas prices?

Reid and Congress just took a five week vacation — instead of working to lower gas prices.

Congress found time to pass National Apple Month, but Reid continues to block votes to explore for energy in America.

America has huge energy reserves, but Congress has placed up to 85% of them off-limits.

Reid repeatedly blocks efforts to lift the moratorium on safe exploration off our coasts.

Reid opposes exploring a tiny portion of Alaska - less land than the Las Vegas airport – and he’s against developing our massive oil shale reserves.

Call Harry Reid: 702-388-5020. Tell him his vacation should end and the Senate should vote on S. 3202.

American Future Fund is responsible for the content of this ad. Paid for by American Future Fund. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate’s committee. AmericanFutureFund.com.

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  1. #1
    On August 5th, 2008 at 11:42 am, John Ansell said:

    The funny part is that since the Republicans started to push the issue, the price has dropped to 120 a barrel. Imagine how low it would go if they passed a bill.

  2. #2
    On August 5th, 2008 at 11:42 am, sonofdy said:

    Well of course if the problem is a lack of energy resources, the last thing the DNC would want to do is find more energy resources.

    /i wish this was sarcasm

  3. #3
    On August 5th, 2008 at 11:43 am, BrianF1967 said:

    The Democrats are holding out for the Sep 30th end to the moratorium. No votes needed, no stands, just let it fade away and not renew it. That way both faces of the democratic party win…

  4. #4
    On August 5th, 2008 at 11:44 am, josetheguerilla said:

    Well, at least we still have Senator Ensign. When will Nevada residents wake up from this Dingy Harry nightmare?

  5. #5
    On August 5th, 2008 at 11:53 am, khan said:

    A Senator does not have constituents.; a Senator represents his state - not the people, but the state.

  6. #6
    On August 5th, 2008 at 11:54 am, purplepeep said:

    Yup, all three of the culprits - Pelosi, Reid and Obama should be held accountable for trying to stop America from becoming energy-independent. Of course, at least Pelosi and Reid didn’t follow Obama’s lead and aren’t spending the 6 week Democrat vacation in Europe. (So far.)

  7. #7
    On August 5th, 2008 at 11:56 am, magicarb said:

    The voters - Forgotten, but definitely not gone. See you at the ballot box!

  8. #8
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:00 pm, JConrad999 said:

    Why bother? The democrats don’t give a rat’s …backside about people. They’re not coming back to take the vote.

    Stop wasting time pointing fingers. Instead, exploit them for what they are. Go on the offensive.

  9. #9
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:07 pm, tre said:

    #1 Jonh Ansell

    Can you imagine how much the price will drop if the sale of tire pumps and pressure gauges go up.

    *sarc off

  10. #10
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, ALC said:

    I hope their luggage gets lost. Oh, that’s right, they don’t have to travel like the rest of the U.S. so they wouldn’t know about lost luggage or high gas prices.

  11. #11
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:13 pm, srhoades said:

    Imagine how low it would go if they passed a bill.

    Unfortunately this is how I see something like that playing out. Bill passes, market price drops, Congress says “Well there’s no need for all that drilling now” and imposes restrictions again.

    Hopefully I’m just cynical . . . but with that lot I don’t think so.

  12. #12
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:18 pm, Mike said:

    Two words.
    “Term Limits”

  13. #13
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:21 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 11:42 am, John Ansell said:
    The funny part is that since the Republicans started to push the issue, the price has dropped to 120 a barrel.

    The funny part is that every financial news I’ve read regarding the drop in the price always mentions slowing demand rather than Republican politics.

  14. #14
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:32 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    TOS,

    Bush said drill offshore. The speculators had a massive sell-off which drove the prices down. You can ignore that fact if you like. If Pillosee and her gang would vote on the issue instead declaring “Apple Month”, imagine the sell off’s then. Oil is market driven. Increase the supply and the price will drop - kinda like our dollar.

  15. #15
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, JHSII said:

    TOS #12

    Please indicate where those same sources have ever given Republicans credit for anything.

    /I wish it was sarcasm

  16. #16
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:38 pm, emjem24 said:

    Imagine Dingy Harry’s fate if you eliminated the main culprit behind his getting elected: Las Vegas.

    The Republican governor is no better either…. sounds a lot like my home state of NY (I thought I put a little relativism out there that TOS and lgm could support). ;-)

    Many Nevadans can’t stand Reid and it’s time to hold his feet to the fire of his political beliefs. You want to be intransigent and hurt the American people at the same time? Fine. Just don’t think that there won’t be consequences at election time.

    The funny part is that every financial news I’ve read regarding the drop in the price always mentions slowing demand rather than Republican politics.

    Funny how you don’t mention that psychology goes into the lowering of gas prices as well. Why is that? Hate to burst your bubble, but how does lessening demand even ensure energy independence or alternative energy (which is nowhere’s close to fruition)? Oil still fuels our economy and it comes from somewhere. Demand or no demand.

  17. #17
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:39 pm, governmentdrone said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:21 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    The funny part is that every financial news I’ve read regarding the drop in the price always mentions slowing demand

    Hmm. So I guess those eeevil futures market “speculators” that the Dims have been so quick to blame and want to convince us are the major cause of high oil prices . . . aren’t a big part of it after all?

    Double hmm. Slowing demand = lower prices . . . sounds like capitalism working at it’s finest.

    Yet folks like TOS, lgm, Rusty, et.al. think that the only answer is more and more government control.

    Fine. Oil prices are down. Let’s take advantage of it and get the drilling started now! That way we can make all the libs happy by not having to fight any more “wars for oil”.

  18. #18
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:40 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    MSM says the big BO want to get off foreign oil within ten years. But no drilling?! How the heck are you going to do that? Also Nancy (Bela Lugosi) Pelosi is now telling fellow Dems that that they can back offshore drilling. What the hey! They have to get permission from her? What a bunch of geldings!

  19. #19
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:43 pm, sonofdy said:

    TOS: That would make more sense if demand hadn’t been dropping for months before the prices did. Stop believing everything your masters tell you and do some research.

  20. #20
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:46 pm, abstractmind said:

    Whatever happens to be the case, i see the price here in Nashville and the surrounding area dropping from 4.00 about 2 months ago…to 3.65 on Memorial Dr in Murfreesboro.

    If we begin drilling and get more supply started…the price will drop like a rock.

  21. #21
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:48 pm, cpodug said:

    Meanwhile, Dingy Harry and SanFranNan are doing everything in their power to make us a third-world country, by sending our oil money overseas, so that the Emirs can ride in style.

    Remember, folks, YOUR money made this all possible! Ain’t it wonderful?

    /sarc

  22. #22
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:50 pm, Paul said:

    Harry has a one vote majority.

    Perhaps do nothing Nancy has a plan. Her no vote strategy produces a backlash that defeats both Obama and Harry. She would then be number one in the Democratic Party and a leading contender for 2012.

    Nancy reminds me of Catherine de Medici. As queen dowager she would become known as Madame Snake, with secret hideaways for poison rings and daggers.

  23. #23
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:52 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:43 pm, sonofdy said:
    TOS: That would make more sense if demand hadn’t been dropping for months before the prices did. Stop believing everything your masters tell you and do some research.

    You would think then that the price would have shot up again after the White House said they will not call Congress back into session.

  24. #24
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:52 pm, dpt said:

    If our top leaders in The Congress are so concerned about saving the planet, then how about shutting the A/C off in all Congressional office buildings?

    Heck, Congress and Washington worked well before the advent of A/C technology, so why not implement such a measure now?

    After all, Mother Earth is in peril, and some are even proclaiming that we will soon be reaching a “tipping point” in terms of the global climate change. Lead by example!

  25. #25
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:55 pm, swmbo said:

    OK, I called Reids office and made my position known. Between calling Pelosi every day and now adding him, I’m going to have a nifty phone bill. Don’t care, I want something done.

    I’m sure ready for politicians to quit taking their lead from no-nothing no-caring “leaders” and start listening to the people they are hurting. I don’t know about you but I’m not government subsidized, I work for a living.

  26. #26
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:57 pm, Mister P said:

    They need to get off the corporate wind fall tax kick. The problem is the oil cartel - OPEC. I wonder how much of Obama’s campaign funds are coming from OPEC, for he and the Dems are doing a great job representing them.

  27. #27
    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:58 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:52 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    Do you have a position on this issue? If yes, then state it. Reading your ramblings is giving me a headache.

  28. #28
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:00 pm, Mister P said:

    Please indicate where those same sources have ever given Republicans credit for anything.

    I wish I could give the Republicans credit for the US being energy independant, but I can’t. They had a majority in both houses and the President, but we STILL cant drill off shore or in ANWR.

  29. #29
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:01 pm, RedDog said:

    No surprise, Democrats (read Marxists) want to destroy America so they can reconstitute it as a euro-style socialist state. Once you understand that, everything they do comes into sharp focus.

  30. #30
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:04 pm, ajmontana said:

    Putting some heat on Dingy Harry, too

    I’d like to put some heat like this on ole “Tommy” Reid.

  31. #31
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:07 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    AJ,

    Link does not work. We need permission.

  32. #32
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:16 pm, Phiber0p said:

    You would think then that the price would have shot up again after the White House said they will not call Congress back into session.

    You (and the other 2 Rusty and lgm) seriously must just enjoy trolling or something. I just can’t, for the life of me, fathom someone being in such a vacuum. If you are truly that naive then I feel very sorry for you.

  33. #33
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:25 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    The Dimitcrats need to keep the oil prices high so they can get the votes this fall. That’s why they’re not working on doing anything about drilling for oil.

    They need to protect their power and six figure income, not to mention all the other benefits they cling onto at our expense.

    Luckily, free markets have spoken, and supply and demand are playing out. That’s why PPB is $118 today and gas is averaging around $3.87/gallon and falling.

  34. #34
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:29 pm, swmbo said:

    RIGHT ON BlameAmericaLast, if the MSM would cover half of what we read from Michelle, the election would be a whole different color. RED.

  35. #35
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:30 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    BlameAmericaLast said:
    The Dimitcrats need to keep the oil prices high so they can get the votes this fall. That’s why they’re not working on doing anything about drilling for oil.

    I wholeheartedly disagree. The high price of gas is probably the single best issue that the Republicans have to run on right now. Thus, this whole congressional charade right now. The right is doing a good job of framing this as a Democrat-caused problem. I believe it’s hurting Dems more right now.

  36. #36
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:30 pm, ajmontana said:

    On-my-soap-box said:
    AJ,

    Link does not work. We need permission.

    works here….. must be that 1989 puter you’re using. 8)

  37. #37
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, Henry said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:21 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    The funny part is that every financial news I’ve read regarding the drop in the price always mentions slowing demand rather than Republican politics.

    Hmm. The demand for gas has dropped 2.5%, yet the price of oil has dropped 19%.

    Must be that moonbat math…

  38. #38
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:41 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, Henry said:
    The demand for gas has dropped 2.5%, yet the price of oil has dropped 19%.

    Must be that moonbat math…

    ..or your complete lack of understanding of the oil markets and speculation.

  39. #39
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:42 pm, sonofdy said:

    TOS:

    The right is doing a good job of framing this as a Democrat-caused problem.

    This problem was created over 30 years. It is hardly a DNC or GOP problem but a WASHINGTON DC problem. The solution is all of the below at once.
    1/ Drill everywhere.
    2/ Get off of oil.
    3/ Get off of oil.
    4/ Get off of oil.
    5/ Get off of oil.
    6/ Get off of oil.
    7/ Get off of oil.
    8/ Get off of oil.
    9/ Get off of oil.
    10/ Mandate in 10 years that no new gasoline or desiel powered vehicles can be sold except as sports (read racing and collectable) vehicles. Believe me, the new vehicles can be ready by then and not making OLD vehicles illegal means that the distrobution system can react without falling apart.

    This is america TOS. We can chew gum and walk at the same time.

  40. #40
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, cpodug said:

    TOS, since you obviously have a much greater understanding of the oil crisis than we have, please take the time to explain to us, in words of one or two syllables, how the oil market and speculation actually work.

  41. #41
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, sonofdy said:

    ..or your complete lack of understanding of the oil markets and speculation.

    If your theory is correct then it follows that an increase in future supply will cause the speculators to drop the prices even faster!!!! Good point TOS.

  42. #42
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:48 pm, abstractmind said:

    TOS does make a good point. The dems have really dropped the ball on this, and pressing this issue is hurting them alot right now. While i disagree with the remainder of your assessment, TOS, I do believe you’re right that this is a thorn in their side that isn’t going anywhere for a while.

  43. #43
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:50 pm, atheling said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:58 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 12:52 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    Do you have a position on this issue? If yes, then state it. Reading your ramblings is giving me a headache.

    30: I agree. He’s a freaking broken record. Over and over and over… what a BORE.

  44. #44
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:57 pm, Henry said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:41 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    ..or your complete lack of understanding of the oil markets and speculation.

    You know nothing about me or my understanding of oil markets and speculation.

    With your superior knowledge of oil markets and speculation, you should have no problem explaining how a 2.5% decrease in demand results in a 19% drop in oil prices.

    Proceed…

  45. #45
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:57 pm, BOB said:

    Las Vegas is seeing a big drop in casino revenue, along with hotels and other attractions, (not sure about the bunny ranch). This is largely due to the high cost of oil and its effects on the economy.

    Maybe Reid will get a little pressure to do something from Nevada voters.

  46. #46
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:07 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:57 pm, Henry said:
    With your superior knowledge of oil markets and speculation, you should have no problem explaining how a 2.5% decrease in demand results in a 19% drop in oil prices.

    Proceed..

    As soon as you tell me how a 4% increase in demand from 2004-2008 resulted in a 400% rise in oil prices.

  47. #47
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:07 pm, IndependentTom said:

    I read an article on Drudge this morning that implied that Nancy Pelosi has chosen to act as the lightning rod for criticism around the congressional break. It gives the democrats in vulnerable districts a way to distance themselves from the controversy if need be.

    She also believes that if/when they take the oval office and a fresh crop of new demoratic representation in congress will allow them to pass any agenda they choose next year. So in her mind, all they have to do is hold on and take a little heat for a few months.

    It’s a cynical, elitist game that’s being played here. And the public doesn’t get to participate.

  48. #48
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, BrianF1967 said:

    No one has to play. As I have said on Sep 30th this is all a moot point because the moratorium expires at that point and the states can do as they want without anyone in DC having to take a side. This is what the Democrats want to happen. They understand that oil needs to be drilled but if they bring it up in Congress the left will throw fits. If they let it expire without a vote and say they could not get it through becuase the republicans blocked its’ passage they win…AND they still get “limited” drilling as Obama now says he wants.

    There is no reason for them to bring it up..and all the reasons for them not to. What will be interesting to see is what happens after Sep 30th when it expires and states get to decide for themselves. There is a couple of months there before anything changes in DC. Shoudl be interesting to see how many states jump in and allow drilling and how many do not.

  49. #49
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, sonofdy said:

    If your theory is correct then it follows that an increase in future supply will cause the speculators to drop the prices even faster!!!! Good point TOS.

    They would drop but not “even faster”…it is more of a demand driven market than a supply one as oil producers have historically kept production/supply close to even with demand.

  50. #50
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:19 pm, cpodug said:

    As soon as you tell me how a 4% increase in demand from 2004-2008 resulted in a 400% rise in oil prices.

    No, TOS - YOU are the one who said,

    ..or your complete lack of understanding of the oil markets and speculation.

    YOU are the one who implied we are stupid, and from YOUR elitist point of view, there is nothing we could explain to you that YOU obviously don’t already know.

    So, how about explaining to us peons all about oil markets and speculation. We are anxiously awaiting YOUR elucidations. Don’t give us any more of YOUR attempts to change the subject - just explain it to us.

    We are anxiously awaiting YOUR pontification.

  51. #51
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, mojack420 said:

    well at least we have national apple month

  52. #52
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:21 pm, Phiber0p said:

    As soon as you tell me how a 4% increase in demand from 2004-2008 resulted in a 400% rise in oil prices.

    Because it has not been supply/demand driven. It was SPECULATION that America would not ever drill and the supply would dwindle with China and India increasing their demand. Now that they see we might just get serious and drill our OWN resources the speculators said Oh &*^* sell it, hence the price drop. The price was set on FUTURES not current supply/demand. Wow and you just contradicted your own argument in what I quoted from you.

  53. #53
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:24 pm, Phiber0p said:

    ..or your complete lack of understanding of the oil markets and speculation.

    Cpodug, give it up. That was TOS actually saying “hello kettle I’m pot and your black” *rolls eyes*

  54. #54
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:24 pm, uhangtight said:

    TOS:

    the speculators are ’speculating’ we will begin to drill and increase supply. it is that increase in supply that will cause the markets to adjust. the decrease in demand moves markets, but nothing like an increase in supply will move them, especially when it comes to a product that is the ‘life blood’ of our economy.

    hey guys, just thought an explanation with a little more detail was needed. of course, not holding my breathe that it will be understood…

  55. #55
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:26 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:19 pm, cpodug said:

    Try checking out:

    http://peakoildebunked.blogspot.com/
    http://www.theoildrum.com/

  56. #56
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:21 pm, Phiber0p said:

    Wow and you just contradicted your own argument in what I quoted from you.

    How so?

  57. #57
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:33 pm, sonofdy said:

    TOS: 4% rise = 400% increase in cost?? That would make sense IF you were only counting american increase in demand. Oil is a GLOBAL market. (one reason why I don’t like them) so an increase in demand in china affects us as well and what is the growth rate in china, india and the rest of the developing world?

  58. #58
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:37 pm, Flarn said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:42 pm, sonofdy said:
    10/ Mandate in 10 years that no new gasoline or desiel powered vehicles can be sold except as sports (read racing and collectable) vehicles. Believe me, the new vehicles can be ready by then and not making OLD vehicles illegal means that the distrobution system can react without falling apart.

    This is america TOS. We can chew gum and walk at the same time.

    That’s ridiculous, the government shouldn’t be mandating anything, especially since we don’t know what will fuel cars in 10 years. The free market will find out if you let it. And if we find an alternative source, the Dems will just start a moratorium on that too. ANY source of viable energy leaves a “footprint” (I hate that buzzword). The Dems want cavemen back. Just not them of course.

  59. #59
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:37 pm, BOB said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:07 pm, TheOtherSide said:
    On August 5th, 2008 at 1:57 pm, Henry said:
    With your superior knowledge of oil markets and speculation, you should have no problem explaining how a 2.5% decrease in demand results in a 19% drop in oil prices.

    Proceed..

    I hope you aren’t saying that the percentage in price change has to follow the percent over or under supply of any product, cause that isn’t true.

    For example, if supply is low, even a little bit, price will increase until the supply and demand are rebalanced, this could take a lot more of a price increase than the percent of reduced supply, depending on how much the consumer resist the increase and keeps on buying. This was very evident with gasoline as the demand stayed up even as prices increased until we reached a “break point” of around 4 dollars/gal. and the demand began to drop.

    Same thing in the down direction, prices will drop until supply and demand are equal again, no way does this mean the price will drop 2.5% if the demand drops 2.5%.

  60. #60
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:37 pm, uhangtight said:

    TOS said:

    They would drop but not “even faster”…it is more of a demand driven market than a supply one as oil producers have historically kept production/supply close to even with demand.

    I have worked in the oil industry. I know just a little bit, but obviously not as much as TOS, tell me TOS how many years have you worked in the Oil Industry? How many geologists do you know? How many discussions have you had with them. I have also worked for Wall Street, how long have you worked in either of these fields??

    The so called production/supply close to even rhetoric you speak of is from OPEC, consisting of countries that are our enemies. This is done to over inflate the price to their advantage. These are all dictators/socialists governments controlling the product. The large oil companies must compete with these despots. How can they when they are not allowed to drill or refine? The answer is they can’t, therefore the supply stays close to demand to inflate and continue these despots in their power.

  61. #61
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, Harris said:

    Remember a while back when the Democraticals brought in cots and blankets because no one was leaving until the problem was resolved? I forgot what they were all pissing and moaning about in that case, but these Republican charades are the same thing. They all put on their big show, which has become terribly disgusting and frustrating.

    I am going to ask Santa for a third party.

  62. #62
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    #sonofdy: the 4% rise is in global demand, not just u.s.

  63. #63
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:42 pm, cpodug said:

    TheOtherSide said: sonofdy: the 4% rise is in global demand, not just u.s.

    Source?

  64. #64
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, Phiber0p said:

    The funny part is that every financial news I’ve read regarding the drop in the price always mentions slowing demand rather than Republican politics.

    This comment leading me to believe you think it IS a supply/demand issue, and nothing to do with the speculators and our willingness to drill.

    As soon as you tell me how a 4% increase in demand from 2004-2008 resulted in a 400% rise in oil prices.

    This comment leaving me to believe that you understand that it’s speculators and our politics that drives the market. So which is it? Politics or market driven? Please pick a side. Also, just out of curiosity was this not all during a majority controlled house and senate? All the President can do is lift the executive order banning off shore drilling and drilling in Anwar.

  65. #65
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, sonofdy said:

    A good source of information for demand vs supply. As you can see from this, the small reduction in american demand has been far outstriped by the increase in demand from china. Sorry TOS, your idea that this small reduction in american demand in the world market causing the oil to drop doesn’t make sense when worldwide demand is actualy INCREASING over-all.

  66. #66
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:47 pm, Flarn said:

    PELOSI:

    Preventing
    Energy
    Legislation,
    Obliviously
    Saving
    Terra

  67. #67
    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:49 pm, Flarn said:

    Whoops, I meant:

    PELOSI:

    Preventing
    Energy
    Legislation,
    Obliviously
    Stopping
    Ideas

  68. #68
    On August 5th, 2008 at 3:03 pm, cpodug said:

    TheOtherSide said:

    *crickets*

  69. #69
    On August 5th, 2008 at 3:04 pm, sonofdy said:

    That’s ridiculous, the government shouldn’t be mandating anything, especially since we don’t know what will fuel cars in 10 years.

    It worked with leaded gas. In 10 years we can have a working alternate if we want to. But most importantly, we must drill now or we will not make it to 10 years from now.

  70. #70
    On August 5th, 2008 at 3:05 pm, sonofdy said:

    cpodug, You didn’t actualy expect him to back that up did you?

  71. #71
    On August 5th, 2008 at 3:08 pm, cpodug said:

    Of course not - figure if he can come in here and insult our intelligence like that, we can have a little fun with him.

  72. #72
    On August 5th, 2008 at 3:09 pm, Phiber0p said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 3:05 pm, sonofdy said:

    cpodug, You didn’t actualy expect him to back that up did you?

    Shhhhhhh… TOS is scanning the lib blogs for more talking points on this issue.

  73. #73
    On August 5th, 2008 at 3:12 pm, sonofdy said:

    Master obama, what do I say now that they called my bluff???? ;-)

  74. #74
    On August 5th, 2008 at 3:15 pm, Floyd R. Turbo said:

    Looking at their picture, the only things missing are the barn and the pitchfork in Harry’s hand. Perfect depiction. Just like Obama, totally empty suits. In fact, the husband and wife depicted in that classic farm painting would do far better than these two. No wonder we’re so screwed.

  75. #75
    On August 5th, 2008 at 3:36 pm, sonofdy said:
  76. #76
    On August 5th, 2008 at 3:37 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    All I can do is shake my head when I see these two in charge of Congress.

    How pathetic have we become?

  77. #77
    On August 5th, 2008 at 3:45 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:42 pm, cpodug said:
    TheOtherSide said: sonofdy: the 4% rise is in global demand, not just u.s.
    Source?

    Sorry for the delay, I was at lunch. Source

    Anything else?

  78. #78
    On August 5th, 2008 at 3:56 pm, bit_boy said:

    I still like the idea Reid and Pelosi have
    created the Perfect Political Storm

  79. #79
    On August 5th, 2008 at 3:58 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Yes Dingy Harry and Botox Nancy are determined to throw this country into a big recession hoping the voters will blame the Republicans. The Annointed One, His Messiahship, He Who Has Come is speaking now in Ohio making fun of the Drill Now campaign.

    Force us on their public transportation and we go where THEY want us to go WHEN they want us to go. With tracking devices in these Transit Cards they will have a nice record of where you went when.
    They definately want to depopulate the suburbs–too hard to control dispersed peoples. Want to go on vacation? Bro Bama will decide that. Hunting and fishing, alone in the woods? No peasent, but Bro Bama will arrange well monitored groups tours. Want to go to Church? Well the Public Transportation system can’t go to all the churches but Bro Bama will arrange for a standard reasonable non-Trinatarian church/mosque we can go to. Minister Farrakahn will make sure the Jews don’t need a place to go.
    Nothing original here. Mr Huxley and Mr Orwell beat both Bro Bama and me by years. It is a Brave New World. 1984 is just running a little late, the surfs keep rebelling, hopefully forever.
    There are times that Reid and Pelosi remind me of Benedict Arnold, without the hat.

    His Messiahship be mocked
    Allie OOP OOP be praised

  80. #80
    On August 5th, 2008 at 4:01 pm, Flarn said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 3:04 pm, sonofdy said:
    That’s ridiculous, the government shouldn’t be mandating anything, especially since we don’t know what will fuel cars in 10 years.
    It worked with leaded gas. In 10 years we can have a working alternate if we want to. But most importantly, we must drill now or we will not make it to 10 years from now.

    Leaded gas was different, removing one ingredient isn’t the same as massively changing an entire transportation system with a fuel that doesn’t even viably exist.
    And of course we should drill now. Depending on your point of view, either nature put oil there (what’s it for if not energy) or God put it there for us to use (’nuff said).

  81. #81
    On August 5th, 2008 at 4:02 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    sonofdy,

    Sorry TOS, your idea that this small reduction in american demand in the world market causing the oil to drop doesn’t make sense when worldwide demand is actualy INCREASING over-all.

    But increasing at a MUCH smaller rate than previously estimated. You do realize that U.S. demand down by a 0.8mbd year-on-year nearly wipes out all global demand growth. As the futures market is seeing demand growth at a shallower slope than expected, the price has gone done.

    in fact, tos, as you can see world wide demand increased 4% from 2006-2008, so you figure is wrong by about 100%

    I suggest you learn how to interpret charts and graphs. Your link shows and increase of 2% global demand from 2006 to 2008. (84.71 mbd - 86.40 mdb). Your 4% claim is from 2006-2009(est). The data I used, show 2004: 83.12 mbd - 2008Q1 - 85.64 mbd — actually only 3.03% increase.

  82. #82
    On August 5th, 2008 at 4:06 pm, allrsn said:

    Thumbs up the the few GOP members who had the guts to stand up and fight!

    Write you congressmen with your thoughts.

  83. #83
    On August 5th, 2008 at 4:10 pm, allrsn said:

    Obama says he want to mandate 1,000,000 hybred electric cars in 6 years! He faild to say how he expects to power them!!

    foflmao
    I guess electricity j u s t sort of happens.

  84. #84
    On August 5th, 2008 at 4:10 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, Phiber0p said:

    PhiberOp,

    Futures speculation set the price, speculation is on future supply & demand, future supply & demand estimates are based on supply & demand trends which are constantly update using todays numbers. So current supply & demand and political policies can both influence the future market.

  85. #85
    On August 5th, 2008 at 4:34 pm, gippergirl said:

    I just called Harry’s office. The nice man who answered the phone assured me that my message would be passed along. I was pleasant…

  86. #86
    On August 5th, 2008 at 5:11 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 4:34 pm, gippergirl said:
    I just called Harry’s office. The nice man who answered the phone assured me that my message would be passed along. I was pleasant…

    You were? Must have been hard; I tried being pleasant to a Liberal myself once. It was 1977. :(
    Hard, very hard it was.
    So let us all emulate gippergirl and be pleasant to a Liberal–once, :)
    but not lgm, that is asking too much.

    His Messiahship be mocked
    Allie OOP OOP be praised

  87. #87
    On August 5th, 2008 at 5:26 pm, gippergirl said:

    thx! I considered it an exercise in self-control…we all have to do what we gotta do for our country… :)

  88. #88
    On August 5th, 2008 at 5:40 pm, Misscheryl said:

    I still say Pelosi and Reid look like the waking dead in that picture.

  89. #89
    On August 5th, 2008 at 5:46 pm, LOBOMAN said:

    I dont’ think Hairy Reed will have very many constituants here (Nevada) come his re-election time — D’s included.

  90. #90
    On August 5th, 2008 at 6:14 pm, lonewolf said:

    I have been in the oil business for 55 years as geologist/engineer/refiner.
    I can tell you there is no one reason for the current price crisis. It is a perfect storm of supply/demand, commodities speculators and, mostly, political ineptitude/ignorance.
    There is no one short range solution but the first and most effective step immeditely is to remove the Luddite restrictions on drilling everywhere in the US.
    Drilling and production can be conducted in an environmentally friendly manner.
    Even though we have vast undeveloped hydrocarbon reserves,they are not, in the long run, infinite. Some, such as oil shales and tar sands, will require improved technology for more efficient production and will never be as “cheap” to produce as we have been conditioned to think of as normal.
    Fossil fuel energy is crucial for primary transportation vehicles. It can be augmented by natural gas conversion of those vehicles where practical. Total energy needs must be supplemented by wind, solar, nuclear and more efficient and practical electric vehicles. Biofuels, in my opinion, hold little promise as a positive adjunct being energy negative and compouding the damage by increasing food costs.
    It is painful to hear the libs parrot their ignorant mantras disdaining drilling,spouting ludicrous claims for inflated tires and tuneups and re-hashing the claim that millions of acres of drillable land are already under lease, ignoring the fact that much of it has already been evaluated by drilling, seimic and other exploratory means and found unprospective, some leases will expire under term, some are not technically and logistically accessible and some are fighting inane and insane environmental restrictions.
    Drilling just any lease because it is available is rather like looking under a street light for a coin lost in a dark alley. eet light because the light is better.

    Just my two cents worth for free.

  91. #91
    On August 5th, 2008 at 6:30 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    lonewolf said:
    Just my two cents worth for free.

    If I still had two cents I would pay it. But I just bought a Federally Approved MessiahTire Gauge and it keeps blowing smoke and draining my wallet.

    Misscheryl said:
    I still say Pelosi and Reid look like the waking dead in that picture.

    We can always dream. I do have wooden stakes in the shed if you need to pin them in the coffen.


    His Messiahship be mocked
    Allie OOP OOP be praised

  92. #92
    On August 5th, 2008 at 6:57 pm, Boomer said:

    I wonder if Dirty Harry will have the intestinal fortitude to face the members of the Las Vegas casino industry suffering significantly thanks to his refusal to Drill Here, Drill Now, and Pay Less. Here’s hoping he will survive the drilling they will give him, but knowing who runs this industry he will be lucky if he doesn’t end up at the bottom of Lake Meade wearing concrete goulashes. ;)

  93. #93
    On August 5th, 2008 at 7:10 pm, bear1909 said:

    make real money either way lol

    i love this country. We have a choice:
    bend over the oil barrels or go short.

    Soooooieeeeeee! Be an oil hog. It’s good for our future.

    i dont feel like paying 15 bucks for light bulbs neither. LMAO I am going to hell for sure!

    Pelosi Galore and Harry “Hair Ball” Reid are bishops in the New Obama Religion.

    They will all fall down.

    Hey Barry! How do u spell O-Deen-gah? LMAO he’s toast.

    let em all rot.

  94. #94
    On August 5th, 2008 at 7:25 pm, pabarge said:

    Read this and weep … it’s all a shill and the Republicans know it:
    woe is us

  95. #95
    On August 5th, 2008 at 7:47 pm, Uplander said:

    Kind of a side note on the previous ‘leaded gas’ mention.
    Remember that ‘they’ charged us to put the lead into the gasoline, and then charged us even more to ‘NOT PUT IT IN THE GASOLINE’. It was an additive.

  96. #96
    On August 5th, 2008 at 8:58 pm, ScottG said:

    On August 5th, 2008 at 5:46 pm, LOBOMAN said:

    I dont’ think Hairy Reed will have very many constituants here (Nevada) come his re-election time — D’s included.

    One small problem, there’s not really anyone of any stature to run against him. Gov. Guinn? Not likely. Gov. Gibbons? Forget it. We can spare the two sitting reps. No one else is around.

    Even if Land Office Harry looks like he’ll be a weak candidate, the Ds can always run Lord Oscar, ambassador to the Court of Bombay. (gin)

  97. #97
    On August 6th, 2008 at 12:39 am, atheling said:

    Note to Botox Nan:

    Must try matte foundation.

  98. #98
    On August 6th, 2008 at 12:58 am, fuseman said:

    the appeaser-in-chief should call an emergency session. holding back only makes him look like the girlyman governor of mexifornia.

  99. #99
    On August 6th, 2008 at 11:30 am, American Elephant said:

    UNLIKE the House, which Democrats shut down, powered down and boarded up — the Senate remains in session with a Skeleton crew … just enough to prevent President Bush from making any recess appointments!

    It’s time Senate Republicans stood up to THAT outrage as well!

  100. #100
    On August 7th, 2008 at 8:43 am, warden said:

    Little Devon from Searchlight, Nevada is backtracking on his previous position. He now says “When I grow up, I want to be just like T. Boone Pickens. Senator Reid is an immature obstructionist.”
    Sen. Reid was unavailable for comment.

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