Newt breaks up with Nancy
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A lot of readers were excited about Newt Gingrich’s appearance today on Capitol Hill with the House GOP revolt leaders. Gingrich had tough words for Do-Nothing Nancy, Barack Obama, and the anti-drilling Democrats. Allah’s got vid.
Eh:
An old hand at leading GOP insurrections, former Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga. (1979-1999), offered his support to the House GOP recess energy protest on Wednesday and urged Sens. Barack Obama of Illinois and John McCain of Arizona to cut a deal on their own bipartisan energy compromise.
Although the House of Representatives is not in session, some Republicans have been on the House floor, and just outside the chamber, mounting their protest, claiming that allowing expanded offshore oil drilling would lower gas prices.
“Sen. Obama, as the leader of the Democratic Party, should pick up the phone this morning and convince [Speaker Nancy] Pelosi and [Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid ] that they should come here and recall the Congress,” Gingrich said. He said that Obama, the presumed Democratic presidential nominee, and his GOP rival, McCain, “should find five things they agree on energy, and offer a joint bill . . . and say let’s pass it before the conventions. If they walked in with five things, they’d pass it before the conventions.”
He added that he doubted Obama would break ranks with his party to cut a deal: “He’s now entrapped between the anti-energy left, led by [former Vice President Al] Gore and Pelosi and Reid and the pro-energy Democrats, who understand that they’re not going to survive if they are the party that’s anti-energy.
It’s worth remembering that just four short months ago– back when both Barack Obama and John McCain were both still against offshore drilling and for peddling global warming hysteria–Gingrich was making nice on a couch with Nancy Pelosi for Al Gore global warming progaganda ads.
In his justification for appearing in the ad, you won’t find a word mentioned about the need for offshore drilling.
In supporting the House GOP revolt and the sea change in public opinion about drilling, give credit where it’s due– to those conservatives in Washington who have been unwavering, stalwart opponents of the Gore/Pelosi fear-mongering obstructionist bandwagon, not to those who have hitched a ride when it suited their needs.
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LOL Michelle, Matt Schofield of Newt.org is going to try to get a camera up in the gallery tomorrow. GO TEAM NEWT.
I still can’t forgive Newt for appearing in Gore’s BS ads.
It’s all well and good that he is talking smack now, but it is too little too late.
DRILL DAMMIT!!!!!
And some people say they are voting for Newt over McCain.
So, what’s the diff?
I don’t care about political ads, I don’t care about books or book signings, I don’t care about Republican or Democrat, I don’t care who’s white and who’s black…I care about drilling HERE and drilling NOW!!
Michelle you are so correct. All politicians especially the ones we can “trust” -like Newt- would sell us overboard if they thought they could benefit from the nefarious deed.
Always keep the pressure on them, and never ever turn your back on a politician for even a second.
Its good to see Newt being what he is supposed to be (giggle).
Very thrilled that the Republicans are actually standing up and showing a spine for a change. Too bad they didn’t do it for all those years they had control in Congress.
I seriously doubt Nancy, et al, thought the revolt would continue as it has. Hopefully, it will go on and on and on…until drilling is voted on.
Newt is Far better than McAmnesty. Plus he’s a conservative. Let’s not forget Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay less. It’s all over his site. http://www.newt.org
I just called and left a message for Pelosi. I reminded her that she works for the people and the people want Congress back to vote!!!!
Newt and Bush are like kids that you have to watch and yell at every minute of the day, or as soon as you turn your back they are next door playing with the neighborhood (democrat) bullies. Of course, the analogy is not the best as I don’t believe Bush cares at all about anything remotely conservative and is utterly deaf to anything the base says. He’s done his spendthrift compassionate bit and now can’t wait to get out of town — it’s our problem now. Hasta la Vista baby, and all that.
As for Newt, I just don’t get the guy, don’t trust him at all and don’t see why anyone else does. He supports Affirmative Action (just like a Dem), whines about speculators (just like a Dem) and cozies up with Gore, Pelosi and their ilk (just like Dem).
Oops, he just changed his mind. RINO now more. For the moment.
Maybe he is better than McCain, a debatable proposition at best, but he had his time and it’s over. Thanks for ‘94 and two brief years of leadership, but we really need to move on with younger, tougher, fresher one hopes real Republicans (I can dream). Newt can carry their luggage if he wishes, but that’s it.
To quote a line from Errol Flynn, “And that, my friend, ends a partnership that should never have begun.”
Anyone with even a half ounce of common sense should realize that if we increase our oil production prices are going to drop–in a hurry! There is plenty of oil and Mother Earth is always making more.
The art of the possible - politics.
Now is a good time to get caravans started and fill the House chamber with college students. Force resolutions onto the floor at state and municipal legislatures. Get Governors to recall State Houses to vote on demands for drilling.
The beauty is that we don’t have to wait until the production comes online to drop the prices. These are futures markets. As soon as they believe we intend to increase supply the price goes down.
Yes, McAmnesty is so much younger than Newt. Good point. Go McAmensty.
That was the moment I disowned Newt. However, if the prodigal son has truly seen the light and returned to his conservative roots, I say let’s kill the fatted calf and welcome him back. But that’s only if his change of heart is sincere and not another political stunt to improve his popularity. Time will tell.
Except for those two dozen or so House members revolting against San Fran Nan, the national GOP is almost indistinguishable from the low-life, power hungry imbeciles known as democraps . Swaying in the wind with no real direction. Conservatism needs to make a come back, as a separate party.
– “Obviously, if you do offshore drilling now it’s not going to give any short term help on the supply of oil. … That’s far away.” — Paul A. Samuelson, a professor of economics at MIT and winner of the 1970 Nobel Prize in Economics.
– “I have a problem linking the drilling to current gas prices for political reasons. The reality is there is no correlation between today’s prices and what gasoline will be discovered in the outer shelf.” — Dr. A.F. Alhaji, an associate professor of economics at Ohio Northern University
– “It won’t make any difference whatsoever [on gas prices] because new oil that could be found and produced on the new Outer-Continental Shelf won’t take place for at least eight to 10 years.” — Texas A&M Economics Professor Dr. John Moroney
– “Drilling in the Gulf starting today is not going to give us any relief this year, next year or the year after.” — Tom Oberhofer, an economist at Eckerd College in Pinellas County
– “It’s absurd to argue that ending the moratorium on drilling off parts of the U.S. coasts would quickly bring down the high price of gasoline.” — John Berry, Bloomberg columnist
– “Would starting to drill now do anything for consumers in the near future? The answer to this one…is probably not, since it’ll take so long for new oil or gas to come to market.” — Ken Green, an energy analyst with the American Enterprise Institute.
– “Opening off-shore drilling would have no impact whatsoever on gas prices today.” — Mike Rodgers, a leading oil expert with PFC Energy in Washington
funny, TOS, that the price went down at the pump with just a whiff of opening up drilling…
Now is not the time to let the Democrats off the hook and Newt has already proven his business is more important to him than serious politics, he should just go write another how smart he is book. McSwish need not reach across and become an Obie reach around energy brother. He should keep his little short arms and hands to himself and not spoil it for the Republicans. The Democrats created this perfect political storm for which they will lose the POTUS and more senate/house seats than they may ever recover.
What’s funny is how you believe that had anything to do with it…have you even heard the oil demand and inventory numbers that have come out in the last month? What’s funny is all the experts point to those numbers as the cause of the dip.
That’s what I thought.
Didn’t happen to notice the price of oil over the past week or so, did you? But let me pose another question for you: What impact will it have on the price of oil in the next 10 years if we don’t open up our domestic sources for exploitation? Not only offshore, which seems to be your attempted out, but the Green River formation and ANWR?
Paging Michelle Malkin,
I don’t know if it’s live or taped, but you are about to be on the Mark Levin radio show (77 WABC Radio, 6:30 EST) in 5 minutes.
On August 6th, 2008 at 6:30 pm, txvet2 said:
Didn’t happen to notice the price of oil over the past week or so, did you?
I sure did. The bubble has burst on more good inventory and demand numbers…watch what happens once it hits $117.
What impact will it have on the price of oil in the next 10 years if we don’t open up our domestic sources for exploitation?
If we can’t get it to market in those ten years…very little.
That reminds me of the Doritos ad: “Eat All You Want, We’ll Make More!” Maybe Exxon could come up with a similar slogan.
Global Warming types want to rid the earth of “CO2 polution”. These Gore deciples calling themselves “green” is like Planned Parenthood calling itself “family friendly”. If they got their way and were able to remove CO2 from the atmosphere, the earth would no longer be green. Without “CO2 polution”, plants would die and animals would soon follow. But they would get a few other things they’ve always wished for: zero population growth and no new oil.
Is Newt being sincere now, or was he being sincere when he sat on the sofa with Madame Speaker Pelosi for the global warming ad.
I read the linked article, looking for the divorce.
Sorry. I don’t see this as being harsh enough for what she deserves. If this was such a big issue, it took Pelosi to ‘adjourn abruptly’ when it was scheduled to adjourn? Don’t get me wrong, what the republicans are doing is of course wonderful. But I don’t see how someone saying it’s time to turn off the lights, and then does so, is arrogance of power.
Republicans have the right and the obligation to be enraged by Pelosi and all the other democrats every second of the day, because of their actions, every second of every day.
Oh, and also:
Drilling does not only benefit big oil. It’s not like they are going to eat the oil and keep it for themselves, they are going to put this into the supply, and then we can buy more gas.
This is like saying that starting an orange orchard only benefits the orange growers. They are going to sell the oranges, we will buy them, and we will eat them. Gak- the ‘logic’ of democrats is so frustrating, because they get away with it all the time.
TheOtherSide, your #18 post reads like the hall of fame for stupid. These are the type of pedigreed demigods that could never reach the moon because we all know you can’t make a ladder than tall.
#25 TOS said:
I wouldn’t agree with you, but I could understand if you didn’t want to drill for environmental reasons…but I don’t understand why you care how long it would take to get expanded drilling efforts to market?
TOS, we’ve been through this before. Your economists are speaking to a price impact from oil, when it actually reaches the market and not seeing anything from that in the short term.
There won’t be an immediate increase in supply and the amount of time varies from expert to expert on when that new domestic oil would be realized at the pumps. But, oil prices are based on speculation in the futures market.
When Bush made his gesture of lifting the executive ban on off-shore drilling, prices took a quick drop. If Congress reverses its position on similar legislation, we will likely see, yet, another drop in price. When the metal meets the earth to start drill, it would stand to reason that we would see another drop. And, when the oil actually starts flowing, supply is increased to better meet demand by our own resources and we should see more.
Bingo, they keep saying “drilling now won’t help until 10 years down the line” and then they push global warming cr@p on us!!! When will that help? More than decades down the line but they get the pass on it.
Drill Now.
Mr. Ginrich should never have made the ad. No, there is no middle ground, there is no coming together regarless of what I am Who I am says, and there is no honest reason to pretend there is.
Deal with the Devil and you will get burned.
All the experts? You, lgm and algore sure do come up with a whole lot of all the experts to advance some really silly nonsense. All the experts agree. But it does seem that the majority of this oil spike came after Dingy Harry and the Botox Broad rejected more drilling. I am not sure what all the experts say about that; I don’t know all of them. Do you?
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By the way, breaking up may have been hard to do for Newt but it was long overdue.
As Morgan pointed out with the Errol Flynn quote, “And that, my friend, ends a partnership that should never have begun.”
TOS, even if it does take 10 years so what, people won’t need energy in 10 years? Do it for the children.
#29 On August 6th, 2008 at 6:44 pm, BrianNY said:
You’re dead on, BrianNY.
Opponents do not care how long it takes.
They are merely emitting a smoke screen.
For whatever reason(s), they oppose drilling, and use the length-of-time-it-will-take-to-get-to-market “argument” as one of various gambits to confuse the issue.
It is such an old, disingenuous trick; and yet, it is used over and over and over and over again.
Be ready, we are almost there.
Forget 68, Remember 94.
Plus Newt got his own slogan incorrect. He said, after bungling it a bit, “Drill Here. Drill More. Pay Less.”
It’s “Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.”
For me, if the moderates like Gingrich want to have impact on the environmental issues, they need to come up with talking points that do not embrace the whole “global warming” mania.
There are plenty of good, sound recommendations for conscientious ways to respect the environment. Out here in the People’s Republic of Santa Cruz, what we hear all the time is, “Reduce. Reuse. Recycle”.
Those are 3 very good ways to contribute responsibly to a better environment. Drinking the man-made global-warming Kool-Aid ain’t gonna get anyone extra votes, because it’s seen for what it is: pandering.
“Drill Here, Drill Now” is not a “Drill Only” plan. America is a big country. We can build windmills, drill for oil, and chew gum at the same time. Pelosi’s spokeman is as ignorant as her boss.
Hey, I’ve got an idea. Open up off-shore drilling and let’s see who’s right. What are you afraid of?
Didn’t Pelosi break campaign finance rules for making that ad?
I’m with you, Papa Louie. The prices started to fall the minute the President lifted the Executive Order banning offshore drilling. If Congress was to do the same, I think we would see immediate and substantial relief.
The lefties do not understand the concept of supply and demand, unfortunately, and their favorite leglislators like them ignorant. But almost everyone else understands it, and I am excited and hopeful.
VickieSoup, we are talking about the same Newt, right? The Contract with America Newt? THe one demonized by the Clinton and their media? Moderate would be McCain/Feingold, McCain Lieberman, McCain/Kennedy, etc.
Just checking.
How come the prices didn’t drop a month earlier when Bush called on Congress to allow off-shore drilling, promising he would lift the Presidential ban if they did so? How come the prices didn’t drop some then?
I looked it up, the mating season for newts starts in march and goes for about 3 months. I guess Gingrich is a “love em and leave em” kind of newt.
Gotta love the “it won’t help immediately so we shouldn’t bother drilling at all” crowd.
Question for you: have you ever done any long-term planning?
If you were seriously overweight, would you not start some sort of exercise/eating program designed to help you become healthier? I guess not, because you wouldn’t see immediate results.
Whenever I think smart people are smart, I just think about how dumb most of them really are.
I guess because a promise is not the same as an action. But thanks for reminding everyone that Bush made good on this promise.
Oh…and for remindng us, by inference, that Pelosi did not make good on hers. Can’t forget that part.
Maybe the market didn’t take him seriously. I know I didn’t. The President changed his mind and lifted the ban because of mounting pressure from the public. That’s what’s also driving prices down. They may not know if politicians are serious, but they are getting the idea that the public is.
After all, it’s called a future’s market for a reason. It’s not called a yesterday’s market or a today’s market. They are speculating on what is going to happen in the future. They do not want to get stuck with high priced futures contracts if the price drops.
So, TOS, how about supporting new drilling just to prove me wrong? Wouldn’t it be worth it?
Sigh. Good inventory and demand numbers equals supply vs demand, or, in other words, an anticipated (or unanticipated, for that matter) increase in supply OR a decrease in demand results in a price decrease until supply and demand come back into balance. Simple market economics. Besides, it doesn’t matter whether the price of gasoline goes down immediately based on future exploitation of onshore resources. The point is, if those resources aren’t open for exploitation today, they won’t be on line in the future when OPEC decides to turn off the spigot, as the Russians did to Eastern Europe a couple of winters ago.
That’s pretty much what Clinton said about 15 years ago. Of course, if he hadn’t put those resources off limits then we’d be exploiting them now, and the price of gas wouldn’t be around $4.00 a gallon.
TOS,
You lost me with the prof from Eckerd College. Far, far left.
Besides, economists know almost NOTHING about oil drilling and production. I heard a professional driller saying it would not take anywhere close to ten years to get oil out the ground if they started drilling now. I’ll go with the blue collar guy who actually does the work than the book-smart economist on how long it takes to get oil into production.
You are right PBoilermaker, but try to let it go. Conservatives and Republicans in general have lost too much by infighting. Newt’s days as an elected offical are over–he is on a mission and that mission is worth supporting.
There are more dangerous RINOs need rounding up, fixing, bobbing and shipping out next election cycle. We have a country to take back.
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John Ansell said, “VickieSoup, we are talking about the same Newt, right? The Contract with America Newt? THe one demonized by the Clinton and their media?”
I wish that Newt was still that Newt, John. I lost confidence in him when he started saying that HRC has some viable ideas in her healthcare policies. And then this unseemly display with Pelosi on the couch, harping about global warming.
*sigh*
Here’s what would surprise you and the rest of this board, I am actually in favor of limited drillin in ANWR and portions of the Rockies (if the local populace approves) and I would love to see a compromise reached where that could happen. However I am against drilling in the OCS.
My problem, however, is how this whole issue is being framed by Republicans and the right-wing punditry. The barage of lies about Bush’s lifting of the ban being responsible for the drop in oil, the immediate drop in the price of gas. There were bills in the House that were filibustered by Republicans that would have done more for the immediate price of gas. This has been nothing more the election-year politicking from the right.
Whatever gets the price lower and keeps BHO out of 1600 Pennsylvania!
You’re in favor of limited drilling in ANWR? I’m glad to see you’re not a total loss. Even McCain won’t drill in ANWR. He thinks the baren mudflats of ANWR are similar to the Everglades.
Out of curiosity, TOS, why are you against drilling in the OCS (if the local populace approves)? More oil polutes our shores from natural seeps than from modern offshore oil wells. If we used modern technology to extract oil in places where it is seeping through the ocean floor, it would actually benefit the environment. So why not drill for oil in the OCS until we can find viable alternative sources of energy? Is it the CO2 Global Warming thing?
bit_boy,”demigod”? Really?
Alas, Newt. She never really did love you. Now you must do all that you can to get the stench of sitting next to her off of you and try to forget.
I understand Vickisoup. I remember when Net.org first put up the ad I wrote in the comment section to grab buckets of ice because Newt’s going to need all he can get to keep the swelling down from the beating he would take over it.
When it aired, he got beat hard.
That said, he’s still a solid conservative.
Well Papa Louie, that would be logical so that’s why they don’t.
Give me inexpensive gasoline… deport illegals. Simple….
We are probably talking about the “I got paid a lot of money to be in the ad Newt.”
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Personally I think you have other problems but more on that later.
NO, it is not just being framed by Republicans and the right-wing punditry and I hope you don’t really believe it. It is most certainly being framed by Speaker Pelosi in shutting down the House. It is being framed by
Barack Hussein Obama’s sarcastic comments today. It is being framed by millions of working class families taking a hell of a beating. It is being framed by cost accounts all over the world trying to figure the inflationary impact of this bubble.
More on you other problems later.
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“The barage of lies about Bush’s lifting of the ban…” Snifff, sniff, ahhh the smell of fear! We are back to “Bush’s lies”, are we now.
Oh that worked out so well the last time… Oh btw there are 2 r’s in barrage.
Raiding the Strategic Petroleum Reserve was a stupid idea and would give very short term relief in pennies per gallon while leaving us at the mercy of too many countries that hate us. All OPEC would have to do is stop the flow of oil to this country like Iran did in the 70s and then we really would have to declare a war for oil.
None of the Democrats plans would offer any relief to taxpayers or enable energy producers to meet our future needs. Only a comprehensive plan including drilling for oil, natural gas, coal resources (clean burning power plants or conversion to fuel), and nuclear power will keep this nation operating in the future while ensuring our security from threats by the OPEC despots. TOS you are a typical liberal looking for instant gratification and quick fixes, when only a long term solution will work.
Boomer, the swines do not appreciate your pearls…
just sayin.
brooklyn red I just couldn’t help myself this time.
Hey guys, I wont retire in 10 years, so why bother planning now? If I won’t see any immediate benefit from starting a 401k plan tomorrow, what’s the point? Long-term planning never helped anybody!
If it takes 10 years to be in effect, so be it. Our children and grandchildren will thank us for keeping American Dollars in America instead of in the hands of those who hate us and wish us dead. And who use our own dollars to accomplish their goal.
Come on in Newt, I’m still your friend. I’ve never dished dirt on you. Even conservatives make mistakes now and then. Come back to the fold and give us a helping hand.
Awwww…. is the love over? Sniff, sniff…
What happened? Did Newt read San Fran Nan’s book and wise up? Or did he know her slimy “inner truths?” I think he knew what was goin’ on all along.
Or did he fall for San Fran Nan’s “pretty face?” Bleh!
Why? The spill record for offshore drilling rigs is exemplary, considering the force of Katrina etc. In addition, any structure in the sea is like an oasis for fish and other sea life.
As it has for the Democrats. Unfortunately for them, the great majority of voters are turning against them.
As for the likelihood of any proposed drilling do anything but have a psychological and political effect today, you are correct.
But that is short term thinking.
I think any liberal would agree that there is a finite amount of oil in the world, and increasing competition for it by emerging economies like China and India. I think we can both agree that the supply situation will not be better in 10 years. If anything, it will be worse. Getting the ball rolling now provides a supply cushion that no strategic reserve could ever match.
Drilling for oil here provides both economic and national security advantages that not drilling does not: economically, it is better to pay ourselves rather than foreign countries of dubious reliability and amicability to the U.S.; national security wise, the fact that we have a source of oil here rather than half a world away, is of critical importance to us. The Strait of Hormuz is only 34 miles wide at its narrowest point, easily closed by a few well placed tanker attacks or threats to do so.
At the very minimum, we have to buy time while these miracle cures the Democrats say is right around the corner are developed. We can’t stop our economy to wait for their promises to materialize. Their efforts would be better spent mandating/encouraging/funding development of alternate sources while staying out of the way of the development of proven resources.
Plus everything Boomer said in #66.
Can anyone point out a city, similar in size to, say, NYC that is powered exclusively by ‘clean energy’?
Dimsdale:
Well said. Unfortunately, your words will be lost on folks like TOS. It would be a sin to drill in “environmentally precarious/sensitive” areas. Sigh.
The constant bleating that the framing of debate by rabid, right-wing politicians and punditry was hillarious I must say. Didn’t San Fran Nan shut down all debate so she could go flouncing all around the country to promote her “best-selling” new book?
The Dems just don’t want to go on record for voting against drilling. That would make certain swing voters mad who bought into their blue dog, I’m not quite a Dems more like you Republican schmucks promises.
Skye:
That’s a really good question. I know that Washington, D.C. is trying to conserve energy. I certainly know that less carbon dioxide will be put into the atmosphere because San Fran Nan and friends have gone on vacation.
In all seriousness… I don’t think there is such a city. Not even Europe can boast that. Cities like London limit car traffic by making car drivers (like NYC) pay a fee to enter their city.
Does anybody have any stats on this? Perhaps we could find the greenest, cleanest city to relocate Al Gore where he will fit in with his own kind.
Gorebal Warming has been proven a farce. The greatest country in the world can make the world 2-3X better in the next 50 years. Let us run with it, minus restrictions, and all of the “problems” we have now will be solved. Everyone knows this and the only thing holding this great country back is politics and politicians. And of course, the MSM.
Terrific! Another once-conservative icon emerges from the bowels of the USS Hasbeen in order to embark upon a new journey of political expediency. Is there any hope we as a party will develop some new, truly conservative blood within our ranks before these old dinosaurs drag us to extinction by moderating or relinquishing their past principles? Newt flushed his credibility within the last few years and now he expects us to take him seriously as he rushes to take the stage once more. He has become the GOP version of Chuckie Schumer; don’t you dare get between him and TV camera. He’s just one more in a long list of sell-outs.
My thoughts exactly…when he first sat on the couch, which is why I told his fundraisers to ask Nancy for a donation.
Then after realizing how upset people were over nothing being done about gas prices, Newt comes out with his Drill Here/Drill Now populist message.
A little late for that….and they stopped calling.
I remember (2007?) Newt saying it was 80% that Hillary would be the next president. Then she didn’t even get the nomination. Now Obama and McCain are neck and neck. Perhaps Newt sees the White House within reach of the GOP so he wants to help out. Good for him.
The democrats are working toward their goal…controlling the oil companies, and energy in this country. Once that is done, due to an apathetic society, they will pull the strings and the citizens will “dance”. They are now thinking of a “windfall profits tax”. Does anyone remember what “windfall profit” originally means? Hardly applicable. They want to tax the oil companies, give us a check for $1000, so the oil companies can increase their prices to cover the tax. So, instead of $4 a gallon, we’ll be seeing $5-6 dollars a gallon. Keep the check. It will only be a “loan” anyway. If they win in November, be prepared for a new country, based in socialism. The Constitution will be ignored, and a society who is more interested in hollywood stars, i-pods, cell phones, and work, will shrug their shoulders and turn on “American Idol”. For some who don’t know “windfall profit”, it came from colonial days, when one couldn’t cut down certain trees and use/sell them. However, if wind/storm blew the tree down, you could use it/sell it. That is what I remember where the term came from.
Exactly. I’m glad Gingrich is on board NOW, but he should’ve been months ago. Instead, he was making nice with a far-Left tool of the radical environmentalists. Go figure…
Just as a few points of mention:
1. The day after Bush said he was lifting the ban, gas at the station i fill up at during the week (and am on a first name basis with the REALLY cute girl at the counter) dropped their price from 3.97 to 3.90 per gallon. Since then, the price at the BP station at Memorial Dr here in Murfreesboro went to 3.43 this morning. This is a trend i like to see continue.
I believe everyone here has at least a rudimentary knowledge of supply and demand. When prices starting hitting that 4/gallon range, i think 2 things kicked in. People starting conserving more because they dont want to pay that amount for gas, and then the possibility of supply (hence, cost driving due to speculators) opens up…
Price drops.
I’m not saying bush lifting the ban is absolutely responsible, but i think it’s incorrect to believe that speculators didnt latch onto that fact, nor are they ignoring the push for drilling that’s going on right now. These things are at least a factor in dropping the price.
Even IF the oil didnt hit the market for the next 10 years, i’d rather have it in the pipe and know its on the way, then to wait 10 more years and go “oh crap, we need oil now…”
While all this goes on, we can also take time to research and develop more efficient oil systems AND alternative fuels. I’m still incredibly interested to see what that guy in Texas with the 110/mpg Mustang is going to do!
Newt lost me with those pitches with Pelosi. He obviously shut down his brain and bought into the Global Warming Hysteria. Because McCain did also, he lost the powerful message about how Gore himself does not believe it (as evident by his own wasteful life style).
Maybe he also had the idea that so many others seem to have that a democrat president is a good thing, because - by magic - we’ll have a very conservative president in 4 years. and now the cold, hard splash in the face of a bucket of ice water known as reality has hit him in the face as to what it will really be like if Obama wins over the Republican *gak!!* McCain
flawed candidacy. And as you say, sees this as something within reach.
I think there is still time left for other conservatives to come to this reality.
Unfortunately for some, that cold bucket of water might be when they watch on live television, Barack Obama being sworn in as president.
Well if we had started drilling 10 years ago, when we didn’t because “it would take too long” Then we wouldn’t be in trouble today. If we don’t start drilling today, in ten years we will be having the same argument wondering why we are paying $8 a gallon. TOS will blame bush of course.
Great point, AM! Only rabid, close-minded partisans could deny this glaringly obvious fact.
The President’s voice resonates on Wall St, regardless of what his detractors may claim, and his lifting the ban motivated speculators to find places other than oil to invest their capital.
Mornin’ everybody. I’m a little late to this thread, and maybe somebody else has already mentioned it, but exactly what is the Dems alternative to opening up these areas for more drilling?
Are they going to build some of those new “instant” windfarms? Put up a couple dozen “overnight” nuclear reactors? Maybe have Detroit start producing nothing but electric and hydrogen fuel cell cars for the 2009 model year? How about building some of those new “next day” solar farms in Arizona and New Mexico?
I’m sick of hearing speculation about how long it will take new oil supplies to impact the price of gasoline at the pump. All of these new technologies won’t happen overnight. Let’s get on with it.
I don’t think Newt has much influence anymore. He reminds me of Dick Morris. He isn’t right about much.
The appearing with Pelosi was revolting.
I love Newt but, he should have known better.
It seems to me that the only politician being consistent in their message is Pelosi, albeit a dangerous message.
completely agree. even small actions are actions nonetheless.
So if we can’t lower gas prices by the close of business today we should just lay down and die? You do that and I’ll support more drilling, refineries, more coal mining and power plants, nuclear and other other viable source of energy.
Now if T. Boone Pickens gets the various states and the Federal government to run power lines across HIS land he will make millions in royalties; sounds like a plan. We do know the current state of technology is not ready for large scale solar/wind power generation but they are viable for small scale local applications. I use a solar panel to charge my marine batteries. But large scale is a bit in the future.
I do in fact support wind and solar power where feasible. But I have news for you: If we start building wind and solar generators in the next year or so it will not lower the price of energy today. So by the logic stated above we should not do so. We call that Short Term Thinking or Chicken Littlism.
I STILL can’t find any spark plugs to tune up my diesel truck ): I Am Whom I Am will be so upset with me!
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His Messiahship be mocked
Allie OOP OOP be praised
Can you imagine Tip O’Neal (love him or hate him) writing his autobiography and not selling at least 60,000 coies? Me neither.
When Americans are pumping $4 and $5 dollar gas into their cars they aren’t listening to idiots saying drilling won’t help. I have talked to people at the gas station and it makes them mad to hear”experts” spew the “drilling won’t help today ” stupidity. I only hope they keep it up through to November.
So, tell us, exactly how long a period before payback should we set up before doing anything about anything? Should we limit our future activity to only those things that we will see results in 6 months? Five years? Nine years, 364 days? I know we can’t go beyond that because since you say it will take 10 years to realize any result from starting to drill today, it’s not worth doing at all. So that must mean that anything that takes 10+ years to accomplish shouldn’t even be started.
With thinking like that why is anyone wasting their time trying to come up with a cure for diseases that will one day no longer affect humans as they do today? People have been working on a cure for cancer for decades. What a waste, huh? For that matter why is anyone wasting their time trying to come up with alternative forms of energy? It’s going to take a lot longer than 10 years to come up with something that replaces oil and put the infrastructure in place to make it as easily accessible and affordable as oil (even at $4 / gallon) is today.
Let’s say that if we start drilling today that we don’t realize any drop in price for 10 years (Many experts say and I agree that the 10 year figure liberal keep bringing up is completely bogus. We would start receiving some amount of payback much sooner). OK? Would you be willing to stipulate that we MIGHT receive a price drop after that? Because one thing is guaranteed — if we don’t start drilling our own oil now, in 10 years, the price of gas will be so high that $4 / gallon will look like a steal just like the $1.20 we paid in 1998 does today.
I plan to be right here in 10 years. The liberals must have plans to be elsewhere (one can only hope).
Newt may be late to the party, but it’s good to see that he’s coming to his senses. Let’s hope he will wise up and not allow any other Dimbulbcrats to use him in the future.
Ooops!
It’s not a 3% savings, like Obama says. It looks Like Dave Price over at Dean’s World has been crunching some numbers.
Newt’s just one more reason that Congress shouldn’t spend so much time in the swamp. The methane must get to them.