Followup on the Mexican Army’s latest incursion
Mexican soldiers holding a Border Patrol agent at gunpoint on American soil is a big deal, and some more statements and commentary are starting to come down about it. Whereas yesterday the State Department was wondering what happened, another spokesman is dismissing the incident as a “misunderstanding“.
A spokesman for the U.S. State Department said the incursion had been brought to the attention of the Mexican government, and appeared to be accidental.
“Our understanding is that this encounter stemmed from a momentary misunderstanding as to the exact location of the U.S.-Mexican border,” Gonzalo Gallegos said.
“We recognize that occasional incidents such as this can and do occur. But we take the misunderstanding seriously, as does the Government of Mexico.”
That’s a tough section of the border, by the way. Ajo, Arizona is right near Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument, where Park Ranger Kris Eggle was killed by a cartel hit squad in 2002.
And as a new study shows, that section of the border is still undermanned relative to California.
Okay…two thoughts on this.
First, we’re giving the Mexican government billions of dollars in aid under the Merida Initiative to improve the effectiveness of the Mexican military and law enforcement. Maybe we could throw in a couple hand-held GPS devices. We can even build in a signal that makes them beep loudly when they’re inside U.S. territory.
But that’s a temporary solution. Here’s a radical new idea I’d like to propose–maybe we could build some sort of…hmmm…structure along the U.S./Mexico border. Something that would make it difficult to physically pass from Mexico into the United States, and vice-versa.
Bear with me here, let me just run this crazy idea up the flagpole and see who salutes: unlike “virtual fences” or even increased patrolling, one of these barrier watchamacallits would actually prevent this sort of dangerous accident because you would have to be really working hard to end up on the other side of the…wall-like obstruction.
You’d also have to worry less about confusing hikers in the area or residents with drug runners and coyotes. Which there would be less of. They’d have to find another way into the country, and the coyotes might even go out of business because it would become too expensive to keep bringing people in versus what they could make in illegal labor. Hey, there’s another fringe benefit.
Wow, this is sounding like a good idea. We could even have a cool catch phrase you could tell your congressman–something like “Build the Reinforced Border Obstacle Now!”
Just an idea.
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Pardon me, but doesn’t it make sense that if we BUILD THE DAMNED FENCE there can be NO MISTAKE about the intention behind future border crossings?
BUILD THE DAMNED FENCE.
see-dub, I respectfully suggest that you should’ve done this reporting yesterday prior to posting that the Mexican army had “invaded” the US. Sloppy stuff and doesn’t help the cause.
Misunderstanding my foot. They were probably covering for coyotes or something. Mexico’s government is corrupt from dog catcher on up. You can’t trust the cops, the military, nobody.
How about building Hadrian’s Wall and surrounding it with a moat full of crocodiles and pirhanas? There will be no more “mistakes” and “misunderstandings.”
Invade - to encroach upon, violate.
No problem with the term’s use yesterday, see-dub. No matter what the intention was, or the end result being a “misunderstanding,” they were on this side when they shouldn’t have been.
I’ve been to Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument several times for hiking and camping. I’ve seen the barbed wire fence along the border. In several places, the wire had been cut, but the fence posts were still there. There is absolutely NO WAY to not know the exact location of the border. In actuality, just the other side of the fence there is a highway that parallels it. If the fence and posts were totally gone in that area, the Mexican “army” would have known the the border was just on the other side of the road. Again, there is NO WAY they didn’t know.
Sorry see-dubya, but this is the democrat’s Amerika you’re in now - you’re not paid to think, the state will do that for you.
So, how can this be below?
“Momentary misunderstanding” my butt!! As soon as the Calvary arrived, they scooted. If they were trully “lost”, then they would have stuck around to yuck it up with the group of Americans or at least apologize to the everyone.
IF there are Predators in the air, they should be armed and ready for just such an incident. That’s right, I’ll show you a momentary misunderstanding!!
This stuff happens (more than once) & we do nothing. What hold does Mexico have over us? What do they have that we can’t live without? Yet we are worried about terrorists in Iraq.
My head hurts trying to comprehend.
Ditto. Look, I think we need to secure our borders to keep terrorists and drug smugglers out.
I’m not so concerned about the people who want a better life, and because most Americans seem to be too selfish to want to have children, but we can’t just let this keep happening.
How bout we misunderstand with a military response? Say a couple of daisy cutters accidently dropped in Mexico. I guarandamtee the rate of misunderstandings will drop faster than the current oil prices when yelling Drill! Drill! Drill! Oh, and yes the State department has long outlived it’s usefulness not unlike the U.N., and needs to be eradicated.
If the Mexican army isn’t aware of where the border is, they are even more inept than I thought.
Of course this is an invasion…yet another one. How many of these are our government going to allow? Apparently, it is going to take a couple of murders by the Mexican army for Washington to pay attention. Gee, I would hate to be pro-active and actually do something before a tragedy occurs.
How about if the Arizona National Guard sends a few Apache Helicopters, M1 Abrams tanks, and M2 Bradley fighting vehicles to help them back across the border when there’s another “misunderstanding.”
I think it is the Hispanic votes in the US that the politicians can’t live without…legal and illegal votes. The loss of a few American citizens’ lives, the bankruptcy of states and the ignoring of US laws means nothing.
WTF, did they take a wrong turn leaving STUCKEY’S? NO, they scouting ahead for a drug load. 43 confirmed incursions this year, odds are that 3-4 go undetected for everyone the Border Patrol confirms.
BUILD THE FENCE!!!!!!
Hello, you cross over into a sovereign country and hold a border patrol agent at gun point, you only retreat because reinforcements arrive. Where is the misunderstanding? Invasion and Aggression.
We need the Mexican military in Afghanistan. Every time they crossed into Pakistan and killed Al Qaeda operatives, the international community would simply accept it as a “misunderstanding”.
I wonder what would happen if some well-meaning citizen should happen to take a shot at one of these invaders. Oh, right. Ramos and Campeon.
If we used this approach with Pearl Harbor, we’d be speaking Japanese now.
Well, those kids at the controls of the Predator drones with Hellfire missiles have to get field training somewhere.
Excuse me? Care to revise your statement or at least work with a narrower brush?
I heard the wait in the ER’s is getting longer & longer. I wonder why?
And the US unemployment rate is growing, so why do we need more foreign workers. Oh yeah I forgot, doing work Americans won’t do. Uh huh.
aww, leave the fence down… a couple years under Obama, 22% unemployment, inflation, massive international poverty taxes - the cardboard and mud shanties across the border will start looking pretty attractive. We won’t want to be climbing fences to improve our lot.
That seems a little excessive. Can we have one side of the fence be blessed, and the other side of the fence be damned? That seems like the best of both worlds.
We need a buffer zone, We should make our own damn incursions into Mexican territory to seize a buffer zone land. Let’s start with Tijuana and work our way east. They have to pay a price for these incursion like they did before.
We should have taken the Mexican military personnel to Gitmo and waterboarded them.
Wonder if Johnny Sutton will try to prosecute the Border Patrol agent that was held at gunpoint for not doing his job properly? He should’ve offered to escort the Mex. army guys to wherever they wanted to go, that’s what the B.P. is for, isn’t it?? sarc/off
State Dept. is a bunch of jerks, it sux.
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A shot out to the Torrance Police Department. Invaders robbing the banks we won’t rob.
Those troops know EXACTLY where that border is. They have made over 200 incursions this year- in many cases, it was to help the cartels.
The other problem is that it occured on the Tohono O’Odham Indian Reservation, which is a semi-sovereign nation and is somewhat responsible for monitoring it’s own border with Mexico. However, they (people within the tribe) are often involved with smuggling as well.
Or raping 12 year-olds Americans won’t rape: Man in U.S. Illegally
Forget the GPS, they have been crossing so often they should know the area like the back of their hand. They knew exactly where they were.
STRUCTURE; are you talking FENCE-see-duya?!!!!!!
PS I want my (taxpayer) $$$ 50 million or is it 500 million?!!!back!
I’m waiting for the “average” U.S. citizen (citizens like me) to start demanding action on the border issue …
No more socailistic PC pandering.
PSS ?
What is LaRaza Mc’s take on the Mexican military invasion of the U.S.?
How about using ‘daisy cutters’ to clear the border area, then declare the cleared area a free fire zone.
Bet everybody thinks twice about that.
+1
preview is my friend..
Hadrians Wall!!!!!
That might hurt an invading Mexican!
The American government only wants Americans to be killed or raped because of the open border. We don’t want anything to happen to God’s children, that would be racist!
I gots your ‘momentary misunderstanding’ right here, bozo.
Disregard everything that comes after since there is a very strong chance that it is either
a) pure lies or
b) spoken by someone who does not particularly like the United States or
c) Both.
Let’s build two fences 50 yards apart. If you make it past the first fence, you get arrested, put in jail, and then deported. If you make it past the second fence, you get shot. The National Guard should be there waiting to do the job.
WOW Common Sense, that is one rape that should have never happened. They already had him for other crimes and he should have been deported. Can the family sue the state?
The American military should be protecting our borders… what other country would allow such a weak response to an invasion. And YES it is an invasion. I went to the local WalMart today, and the anchor babies were running and playing in the isles yelling in Spanish. The people pushing carts in the isles were Mexican. The cashiers were jabbering in Spanish. I felt angry and depressed.
Maybe we could purchase California from the Mexican government???????
Purchase California from the Mexican government? … nah, let them keep it. That would get Pelosi out of our hair.
You’ve apparently never been down there. As behiker noted, the Organ Pipe National Monument has an old fence on the border. There is no way that the Mexican soldiers didn’t know where there were. The fact is that there quite a number of incursions each year by Mexican soldiers, although they usually take off once spotted.
Let me out first Behiker.
I hear ya Rob.
The US govt ignores this stuff.
In northwest arkansas - home of wal-mart and tyson foods - a few months there was a raid on several family-owned mexican restaurants. Unfortunately - several owners were here illegally and a total of 19 people were arrested at the restaurants and management. Today in federal court the owners pled guilty to a MISDEMEANOR of harboring illegals or something like that. In a federal courtroom. by pleading to a misdemeanor they are allowed to keep the multi-million worth of property the gov’t was trying to make them forfeit…..it doesn’t make sense to me at all. they got a slap on the wrist - and the worst thing is they will probably be allowed to stay in the country. what does the average tax-paying, legal American citizen do when their government no longer serves them?
Border Mess
Jorge Bush is far more interested in protecting Iraq than his own country. Sorry but those of you who still have any respect for this President have lost me. He is obviously doing his best to destroy the sovreigntry of this country. How Laura Ingraham and Michele and a host of others can excuse that is beyond me. This is WAR!
Send the man a BANANA..heck send him a bunch since he is a dictator of a banana republic now.
Clearly, La Raza would not understand why they left. After all, they are just taking military responsibility for the land their people are populating.
Actually, when the army of one country crosses a border into another country, that’s war. Somebody ought to stand up in congress and introduce a bill of war. That might get some attention…. especially since I think only the President can do that….
I’m not that interested in a fence. I’m thinking more along the lines of helicopter gunships ….. 50mm also comes to mind. They can stand a couple miles off (off the reservation, so to speak) and give a clear indication of where the border is.
Oh, thinking of the reservation as a sovereign nation, why don’t we build a fence on this side of the reservation? You know, do a little loop around. Let that nation defend itself from the Mexicans and stand up for its sovereignty.
There is a fence out there, See-dubya.. In Douglas, AZ, just a bit over 200 miles east as the crow flies, there’s a quaint wooden fence next to a ditch to mark the border. See?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/darkstream/2658416980/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/darkstream/2657592295/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/darkstream/2657592269/
But notice which direction the fence bends? Golly, if it doesn’t look like its meant to keep Americans out of Mexico…not that a hammer and a little American ingenuity couldn’t overcome that obstacle.
I suggest the very advert-ese: “Build the clearly visible physical border demarcation now!”
Then BUILD THE G..DAMN FENCE as McCan’t has called it.
here is my kind of sheriff–
“Sen. John McCain visited Liberty Township for a Thursday fundraiser, but a fellow Republican will not be in attendance.
Butler County Sheriff Richard Jones took out a half-page newspaper ad blasting the presidential candidate’s stance on illegal immigration, and similar ads are planned for other Ohio and New York newspapers.
“Before I’m a Republican, I’m an American, and this is an American issue, and I can say what I think,” Jones said.
In the ad, the sheriff asks McCain why voters hadn’t heard his policy on illegal immigration, an issue about which Jones is particularly outspoken.
“Are you avoiding this American issue?” the ad asks. “We are all ears.”
Jones, who wants the border sealed and illegal immigrants deported, said he feels McCain has sold out the Republican Party and the U.S. by remaining silent.
“Believe me, he won’t discuss this issue at all in the next 90 days,” Jones said. “He doesn’t want to talk about it at all, (and) I’m going to talk about it everywhere in Ohio.”
A campaign representative said Thursday that McCain would secure the border as president, but the Arizona Republican believes there should be a comprehensive solution for illegal immigration.
Jones said he did not know whether McCain would discuss the ad during his Tri-state fundraiser, but he added that he would not be there to find out.
“I’m not paying $5,000 to have my picture with McCain,” Jones said. “I’m going to stay home and watch paint dry.”
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notice that the McShame spokesman says that they want a “comprehensive” approach. IOW, they still are stuck on stupid with the same amnesty crap that they tried to ram down our throats last year.
they have not changed one friggin iota.