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	<title>Comments on: Calif. court allows parents to homeschool without credential requirement</title>
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		<title>By: California Homeschooling update &#171; Twisted One 151&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>California Homeschooling update &#171; Twisted One 151&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] same leftist mold by teachers&#8217; unions, the battle will be continuing for a long time to come. Michelle Malkin and Walter Olson have both commented on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 4USA</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;/blockquote&gt; On August 9th, 2008 at 12:24 am, dakine said:

Don’t really get the home schooling thing. If the public schools in your neighborhood are lacking in some manner or you’ve got some sort of religious issue with public schools, &lt;em&gt;why not just send your kids to an appropriate private school?&lt;/em&gt; If cost is an issue, most private schools (religious or secular) offer pretty generous scholarship packages.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

California also has a court case pending on this issue.  The University of California System is trying to bar any high graduate from acceptance if the kids were not taught certain subjects (propaganda of social thought and evolution as fact).  Specifically they are targeting the private Christian schools and their curriculum.  In other words, it&#039;s okay to go to a non-indoctrination center (Christian school) so long as you still receive the indoctrination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> On August 9th, 2008 at 12:24 am, dakine said:</p>
<p>Don’t really get the home schooling thing. If the public schools in your neighborhood are lacking in some manner or you’ve got some sort of religious issue with public schools, <em>why not just send your kids to an appropriate private school?</em> If cost is an issue, most private schools (religious or secular) offer pretty generous scholarship packages.</p>
<p>California also has a court case pending on this issue.  The University of California System is trying to bar any high graduate from acceptance if the kids were not taught certain subjects (propaganda of social thought and evolution as fact).  Specifically they are targeting the private Christian schools and their curriculum.  In other words, it&#8217;s okay to go to a non-indoctrination center (Christian school) so long as you still receive the indoctrination.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueRidgeForum &#187; A Valuable Tactical Win for California Home Schoolers</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueRidgeForum &#187; A Valuable Tactical Win for California Home Schoolers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] California Court of Appeal has reversed its earlier decision that home-schooling is generally illegal in California. I criticized the decision banning home-schooling here. (The decision really st[r]uck a nerve among [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Home Where They Belong...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Home Where They Belong...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Spunky Speaks - Good News for CA Homeschoolers...&lt;/strong&gt;

Friday, August 08, 2008

A California court upheld the right of parents to homeschool th......</description>
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<p>A California court upheld the right of parents to homeschool th&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Home Schooling Legal in California &#124; OpenMarket.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Home Schooling Legal in California &#124; OpenMarket.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] California  Court of Appeal has reversed its earlier decision that home-schooling is generally illegal in California.  I criticized the decision banning home-schooling here.  (The decision really stuck a nerve [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dimsdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimsdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On August 8th, 2008 at 3:44 pm, englishqueen01 said:

pressto: It’s not about qualification, it’s about curriculum. Want a taste of what passes for important at the WEAC national convention? Here ya go:

(see post #15)

There are just too many fascist qualities in that list of tenets for me.

Have a look (on an empty stomach) at the publication &quot;Radical Teacher.&quot;

http://www.radicalteacher.org/about.asp

Lots of antisemitism and other &quot;good&quot; clean Democrat fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On August 8th, 2008 at 3:44 pm, englishqueen01 said:</p>
<p>pressto: It’s not about qualification, it’s about curriculum. Want a taste of what passes for important at the WEAC national convention? Here ya go:</p>
<p>(see post #15)</p>
<p>There are just too many fascist qualities in that list of tenets for me.</p>
<p>Have a look (on an empty stomach) at the publication &#8220;Radical Teacher.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.radicalteacher.org/about.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.radicalteacher.org/about.asp</a></p>
<p>Lots of antisemitism and other &#8220;good&#8221; clean Democrat fun!</p>
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		<title>By: HS Blog - Homeschool Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Calif. court allows parents to homeschool without credential requirement</title>
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		<dc:creator>HS Blog - Homeschool Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Calif. court allows parents to homeschool without credential requirement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michelle Malkin gives a good overview and provides links to the ruling and Pacific Justice Institute&#8217;s statement. The good news this afternoon is that a California appeals court has reversed itself and ruled that parents in the Golden State can homeschool their own children without having to obtain a government credential. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Michelle Malkin gives a good overview and provides links to the ruling and Pacific Justice Institute&#8217;s statement. The good news this afternoon is that a California appeals court has reversed itself and ruled that parents in the Golden State can homeschool their own children without having to obtain a government credential. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mjtyson</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, so many comments:

MM: &quot;Homeschoolers are a threat to their turf, a threat to their funding, a threat to their long-held and fiercely protected monopoly.&quot;

How stupid could the NEA be?  Homeschooling kids amount to something like 1.5% of all school-aged children.  We&#039;re not taking away that much money from you idiots. Why don&#039;t they attack the private schoolers? Because most of their teachers are also NEA indoctrinated.

Tre, #10: &quot;parents can only homeschool if they agree to teach the same looney, leftwing, liberal curriculum that the public school teaches.&quot;

Not exactly correct.  We HS as long as we teach the same &lt;em&gt;subjects&lt;/em&gt;.  We don&#039;t have to teach the same curriculum, thank God.  

bit-boy, #29: &quot;With the internet, DVD of text books, and a little government funding national home school by grades would be such rich educational experience. Why such has not been yet developed is beyond me.&quot;

This sort of thing is available in many school districts, and is precisely why many of us HSers don&#039;t like it.  Because it involves teaching state-approved curriculum (have you ever really looked at those textbooks?).  What&#039;s more, once you accept any funding of any type, you also must accept things like state tests, teachers visiting your house, and the like.  No thanks.

Dakine, #39: A HSing family that we know, with no money problems at all here in sunny central California, sent their two girls to a very expensive Catholic school nearby (Melanie Griffith&#039;s kid goes there).  $32K per year.  They withdrew their girls after her 8-year old came home asking what a &quot;b**w job&quot; was, because a boy at her school asked her for one.  They also got disgusted at the comments they&#039;d hear in the morning when they dropped their girls off; kids making fun of other kids because of their clothing.  

What I&#039;m saying is, private school is not always the answer, despite scholarships and financial aide. And besides, if you can do a better job educating your kids than private or public school, why not HS?

For the record, we&#039;ve been homeschooling our kids for eight years.  Our youngest (of 4) is starting kindergarten.  We homeschool for the following reasons, not necessarily in order:  
1) Better education (we follow a classical model)
2) Vacation whenever we want (e.g. we other families can&#039;t go on vacation)
3) We move too often (we&#039;re a military family, and thank God we won&#039;t be in CA much longer)

For anyone reading this who is considering HSing or had just started, I&#039;d like to put in a plug for the Home School Legal Defense Association.  We&#039;ve had to use their legal assistance twice in our eight years, and in a relatively HS-friendly state (FL).  Well worth the $100 a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so many comments:</p>
<p>MM: &#8220;Homeschoolers are a threat to their turf, a threat to their funding, a threat to their long-held and fiercely protected monopoly.&#8221;</p>
<p>How stupid could the NEA be?  Homeschooling kids amount to something like 1.5% of all school-aged children.  We&#8217;re not taking away that much money from you idiots. Why don&#8217;t they attack the private schoolers? Because most of their teachers are also NEA indoctrinated.</p>
<p>Tre, #10: &#8220;parents can only homeschool if they agree to teach the same looney, leftwing, liberal curriculum that the public school teaches.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not exactly correct.  We HS as long as we teach the same <em>subjects</em>.  We don&#8217;t have to teach the same curriculum, thank God.  </p>
<p>bit-boy, #29: &#8220;With the internet, DVD of text books, and a little government funding national home school by grades would be such rich educational experience. Why such has not been yet developed is beyond me.&#8221;</p>
<p>This sort of thing is available in many school districts, and is precisely why many of us HSers don&#8217;t like it.  Because it involves teaching state-approved curriculum (have you ever really looked at those textbooks?).  What&#8217;s more, once you accept any funding of any type, you also must accept things like state tests, teachers visiting your house, and the like.  No thanks.</p>
<p>Dakine, #39: A HSing family that we know, with no money problems at all here in sunny central California, sent their two girls to a very expensive Catholic school nearby (Melanie Griffith&#8217;s kid goes there).  $32K per year.  They withdrew their girls after her 8-year old came home asking what a &#8220;b**w job&#8221; was, because a boy at her school asked her for one.  They also got disgusted at the comments they&#8217;d hear in the morning when they dropped their girls off; kids making fun of other kids because of their clothing.  </p>
<p>What I&#8217;m saying is, private school is not always the answer, despite scholarships and financial aide. And besides, if you can do a better job educating your kids than private or public school, why not HS?</p>
<p>For the record, we&#8217;ve been homeschooling our kids for eight years.  Our youngest (of 4) is starting kindergarten.  We homeschool for the following reasons, not necessarily in order:<br />
1) Better education (we follow a classical model)<br />
2) Vacation whenever we want (e.g. we other families can&#8217;t go on vacation)<br />
3) We move too often (we&#8217;re a military family, and thank God we won&#8217;t be in CA much longer)</p>
<p>For anyone reading this who is considering HSing or had just started, I&#8217;d like to put in a plug for the Home School Legal Defense Association.  We&#8217;ve had to use their legal assistance twice in our eight years, and in a relatively HS-friendly state (FL).  Well worth the $100 a year.</p>
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		<title>By: englishqueen01</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Don’t really get the home schooling thing. If the public schools in your neighborhood are lacking in some manner or you’ve got some sort of religious issue with public schools, why not just send your kids to an appropriate private school? If cost is an issue, most private schools (religious or secular) offer pretty generous scholarship packages.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And if there isn&#039;t a suitable private school, then what?

Up until recently, homeschooling was the only alternative to private school.  And, today, most parents are not satisfied with the level of education received at either option.

So - a pointed question - why do parents not have the right to decide how their children are educated?  With rare exceptions (and everything has exceptions), 99% of parents who homeschool have their children&#039;s bests interest at heart.  And - as evidenced by the winner of that spelling bee (last year, I believe) - homeschool kids are neither unsocialized nor stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Don’t really get the home schooling thing. If the public schools in your neighborhood are lacking in some manner or you’ve got some sort of religious issue with public schools, why not just send your kids to an appropriate private school? If cost is an issue, most private schools (religious or secular) offer pretty generous scholarship packages.</p></blockquote>
<p>And if there isn&#8217;t a suitable private school, then what?</p>
<p>Up until recently, homeschooling was the only alternative to private school.  And, today, most parents are not satisfied with the level of education received at either option.</p>
<p>So &#8211; a pointed question &#8211; why do parents not have the right to decide how their children are educated?  With rare exceptions (and everything has exceptions), 99% of parents who homeschool have their children&#8217;s bests interest at heart.  And &#8211; as evidenced by the winner of that spelling bee (last year, I believe) &#8211; homeschool kids are neither unsocialized nor stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Update: California courts won&#8217;t ban homeschooling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Update: California courts won&#8217;t ban homeschooling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 11:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] educate their children at home even if they lack a teaching credential.&#8221; (Egelko, SF Chron; Malkin; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: atheling</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 07:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The closest private school in my area is 50 miles away.  That&#039;s a lot of commuting time and expense.

Not every place is an urban setting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The closest private school in my area is 50 miles away.  That&#8217;s a lot of commuting time and expense.</p>
<p>Not every place is an urban setting.</p>
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		<title>By: paboperfecto</title>
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		<dc:creator>paboperfecto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 04:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dakine, I doubt that the majority of Christians who choose home school over private school have money as the number one factor.  They choose to do it because family comes first.  Most people who choose to home school feel that the public school system itself is lacking, not just the local schools.  If you really want to get the home school thing do a search and you&#039;ll find hundreds of reasons people homeschool, probably different ones for each family choosing to do it.

When I was in grad school I had a 2 year old and wasn&#039;t even thinking about what we were doing for school.  I had two good friends who were homeschooling their children.  I thought about it, researched  it and we are starting with our now six year old this year.  We&#039;re in New Mexico though, not California.  One reason we chose the job here was for the really nice homeschooling laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dakine, I doubt that the majority of Christians who choose home school over private school have money as the number one factor.  They choose to do it because family comes first.  Most people who choose to home school feel that the public school system itself is lacking, not just the local schools.  If you really want to get the home school thing do a search and you&#8217;ll find hundreds of reasons people homeschool, probably different ones for each family choosing to do it.</p>
<p>When I was in grad school I had a 2 year old and wasn&#8217;t even thinking about what we were doing for school.  I had two good friends who were homeschooling their children.  I thought about it, researched  it and we are starting with our now six year old this year.  We&#8217;re in New Mexico though, not California.  One reason we chose the job here was for the really nice homeschooling laws.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine</title>
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		<dc:creator>dakine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 04:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t really get the home schooling thing.  If the public schools in your neighborhood are lacking in some manner or you&#039;ve got some sort of religious issue with public schools, why not just send your kids to an appropriate private school?  If cost is an issue, most private schools (religious or secular) offer pretty generous scholarship packages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t really get the home schooling thing.  If the public schools in your neighborhood are lacking in some manner or you&#8217;ve got some sort of religious issue with public schools, why not just send your kids to an appropriate private school?  If cost is an issue, most private schools (religious or secular) offer pretty generous scholarship packages.</p>
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		<title>By: englishqueen01</title>
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		<dc:creator>englishqueen01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 00:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I read Atheling’s link about German homeschooling of today…it looks like the Germans haven’t learned much from their Nazi period.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In the realm of fantasy, but I just re-read the 7th &lt;em&gt;Harry Potter&lt;/em&gt; book.  One of the first things the villain does is make school attendance compulsory so his followers can, among other things, teach the young wizards that Muggles are no better than animals and need to be oppressed by magic peoples.

Sound familiar? Art imitating life, that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I read Atheling’s link about German homeschooling of today…it looks like the Germans haven’t learned much from their Nazi period.</p></blockquote>
<p>In the realm of fantasy, but I just re-read the 7th <em>Harry Potter</em> book.  One of the first things the villain does is make school attendance compulsory so his followers can, among other things, teach the young wizards that Muggles are no better than animals and need to be oppressed by magic peoples.</p>
<p>Sound familiar? Art imitating life, that.</p>
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		<title>By: inspiredhome</title>
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		<dc:creator>inspiredhome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 00:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that should read our oldest (not youngest!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that should read our oldest (not youngest!)</p>
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