Bottom line: this MM post is another attempt by the right noise machine to intimidate the press.

LGM, Mistress Justice the MSM does often slant the way they report news to get the effect they want, and yes they did emphasize the threat to Obama, and played loose and fast with the threat placed agaisnt Bush.

I have seen this kind of preferential reporting with respect to MSM reporting (I am going slightly off-tack to make the point) on guns and gun control, for example, throughout the nineties….it became if you opposed Sarah Brady and Bill Clinton on gun control and didn’t go along with their ‘definitions’ and vernacular, you were unreasonable.

Nutshell = I don’t have any substantial issue with your take on this matter (especially with your hattip to a premier voice like Marvin Gaye.)

I just don’t like the way the MSM decides what is and isn’t important news. For me, the “one liner stuffed down in paragraph six” of the aforementioned CNN linked story just stokes my distrust.

The entire 9 month John Edwards “non-story” is another example.

I don’t know if I would agree with everything MM holds to be true, but her mission to cover the stories that I can’t find on CNN, or even Fox, are why I keep returning to her site on a daily basis.

That, and the occasional ‘Schoolhouse Rock’ videos.

Brian,

I believe you understand that the arrest and charges were based on the Obama threat, and not the Bush threat. Since Obama’s threat was the reason for the arrest and the charges, it makes since that this would be the main angle around which the press would frame the reports. I just see it as common sense. I agree that the SS decision was likely based on the location of the parties involved. It’s not “reverse” racism, or media bias, or let’s stick it to W. Instead of picking LGM’s words apart, words I’ve conceded were inartfully typed, I certainly agree with and understand his point. I think the point that matters is what I’ve placed in bold font at the beginning of this paragraph. I think your views are stretched to make an issue where it isn’t there, and for that matter I don’t think you ever disagree with Malkin on any conservative issue. You think I am disregarding some important bias issue that warrants a critical blog, and I’m being dismissive of Malkin’s views. Let the blog GODS decide I guess. To parrot your word, “Whatever”. I’m sure we’re both tired of repeating ourselves.
Again, enjoy your weekend.

Sections 15,16 and 17 of Special Agent Adie’s affidavit explain why he arrested Geisel – because one of the two subjects Geisel was overheard threatening, Barack Obama, was traveling in the same State of Florida that day.

Not because, as lgm contends, “the Secret Service either didn’t believe that claim or didn’t think it was serious” in regard to the equally serious threat against President Bush.

Nowhere in the Special Agent’s affidavit does it state that the Secret Service disbelieved or considered the threat against President Bush to not be serious. Therefore, lgm’s contention is wrong.

This is an important fact to consider, because lgm then tries to fortify CNN’s biased decision, to downplay the equally serious threat against President Bush, by contending that, “well, if the Secret Service didn’t find the threats against President Bush to be serious, why should the media?”

Again, the Secret Service never downplayed the threat against President Bush to be “not serious.” Therefore, the media should not have downplayed the threat against President Bush to be a “non-story.”

But they did. And by doing so, they raised the specter of liberal media bias for the umpteenth time.

Therefore, I believe this was an important thread today. Not a petty subject.

BTW, I remember reading the mention of the threat against President Bush in the CCN article that you linked yesterday, in paragraph six. (I think I read it around 11:30 PM that night.) But, whatever.

MJ, please see #43.

Brian,

The man was arrested and charged for the threats on Obama’s life. If the arrest and charges were also based on the threats against Bush, more of the MSM would have added that detail yesterday.
The SS most certainly didn’t think the threats against Bush were “as serious”, likely because of the logistics described by you in #43. It doesn’t matter that your quotes don’t include the words “less credible”. It’s implicit in how the case was charged and handled, likely due to the party locations. Maybe less “urgent” or less “dangerous” is better, but we are splitting some hairs here in regards to LGM’s overall points.
This isn’t an apple v. apple scenario here. Today’s reports, including those by CNN and USA Today, included the Bush info which was left out yesterday. The Bush info probably wasn’t included yesterday because the initial arrest and charges weren’t based on the Bush threats. “Discounted” “didn’t believe” and “less credible” may be inartfully chosen words, but LGM is most certainly correct that the Bush threats weren’t treated in the same manner as the Obama threats by the media or SS. Again, this is likely because of the location of the parties. I think the Right is looking for some type of tinfoilly stuff that simply isn’t there. This thread is beyond petty, and shows what MM thinks of threats on Obama’s life unless she can get her anti-media snipes in. There is no vast conspiracy of bias going on with this issue. The Secret Service made a determination, and the media outlets framed reporting based on the Secret Service determination.

Lasly, I think the CNN Ticker article added the Bush stuff today. I didn’t see it yesterday. None of you mentioned it yesterday. The Whitewashed link above seems to indicate that it wasn’t in yesterday’s report. As Aloha Guy mentioned, that is one of the main points of the blog. I think the point is beyond petty for the reasons I’ve already described, but hopefully you understand what I’m saying. This is silly season right now. Hopefully, we’ll have more important issues after the veeps are chosen and the debates begin. Have a nice weekend.

However, this guy used a “Racial Epithet” when claiming to want to kill Our Saviour. THAT is the reason he is being held…not the threat itself. After all…one cannot use such a thing else they get thrown into Liberal Re-Education Camp.

I didn’t see anything about Bush in the original CNN article I linked to yesterday.

Isn’t that the point? CNN leaves it out? My panties aren’t in a knot over it, but the whole story should include the Bush threat. I take it that CNN wanted to slant the story to make it look like racists are after Obama when this guy is apparently a more generalized nutjob.

I don’t always agree with you LGM, but I think you are rightfrickinon here.

LGM most reasonably explained why some reports left the Bush stuff out.

MJ, please see #43.

What’s the problem here?

More typically-biased headlining and strategic placement of information by the MSM in their reporting.

The Secret Service thought he was a threat to Obama and arrested him for that.

True

Somebody else thought he might also be a threat to Bush, but the Secret Service either didn’t believe that claim or didn’t think it was serious.

False. Secret Service Special Agent Paul Adie clearly stated in section 12 and 13 of his adffidavit (page 3) that between July 23 and July 25, a fellow student heard Geisel say, “he hated George W. Bush and that he wanted to put a bullet in the President’s head.”

Then, between July 25 and July 28, another fellow student heard Geisel say, “that nigger, if he gets elected, I’ll assassinate him myself.”

Nowhere does Special Agent Paul Adie state that one threat was more credible than the other. Nor does he state, as you falsely assert, that he “didn’t believe” the President Bush threat “or didn’t think it was serious.”

He arrested Geisel because Geisel was in the same vicinity of Barack Obama, the Tampa/Orlando region, at the time. President Bush, the recipient of a Geisel threat around two days earlier than Senator Obama’s threat, was nowhere near Geisel’s location.

The wire service discounted the Bush threat because the Secret Service did.

False. Nowhere I have read has the Secret Service or Special Agent Paul Adie discounted the President Bush threat. The CNN Political Ticker article (which Mistressjustice linked to yesterday) downplayed the President Bush threat by mentioning only one line in paragraph six, and leaving it out of the headline altogether.

Bottom line: this MM post is another attempt by the right noise machine to intimidate the press.

A ridiculous opinion, not backed up by any discernible fact. (Do you realize the damage you do to yourself when you state things like that?)

Well, not really. I think most anyone with a firm grip on reality realizes that most of the MSM, including CNN, is in the tank for Obama. The politicalticker is nauseating.

P.S.
Thanks, BM.

On August 8th, 2008 at 10:22 am, chapoutier said:
abstract, soap…

It is not nice to make fun of the functionally retarded.

You’re right. its not nice.

but it is fun in this case

Lastly, yes assassination threats are serious and “gloom and doom” worthy. I’m sorry if you may differ.

Of course they are, assassinating or threatening to assassinate anyone of any political faction is horrendous and evil. But my point stands that much of the media left out that he also threatened Bush, some would argue deliberately for their own political views.

You aren’t making any sense. It’s not about falling for anything. Grow up. The man was arrested and charged for threats against Obama. As even Whitewashed reported, CNN didn’t mention the Bush threat. LGM most reasonably explained why some reports left the Bush stuff out. The story here is about Obama having his life threatened by a wackjob. People like MM and Whitewashed are trying to throw in some race card crap, because it feeds their victimhood. There’s no gotcha here. You’re making a fool of yourself by acting like I was tricked or fooled by anything. Lastly, yes assassination threats are serious and “gloom and doom” worthy. I’m sorry if you may differ.