All about Silky’s trial lawyer/hush-money fixer
In case you are an inquiring mind wanting to know, Overlawyered has the lowdown on Fred Baron, the Edwards’ legal crony who paid for his lover Rielle Hunter’s relocation and housing expenses.
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AND who probably made it worth her while not to seek a paternity test…just sayin
Oh, this guy is a real winner. Does he represent ACORN as well?
Yes I am, thank you.
Now whats the dirt on Paris?Lol.
That is why I won’t contribute to anyone’s campaign… let them buy their own whores.
Wow, Edwards has some loyal friends. One pays off his mistress and another takes credit for fathering his child. If Edwards had no knowledge of the payoffs, where did the money come from? Baron said it was not from campaign funds, it came from personal funds. But whose personal funds?
Did Baron use Edwards’ money without his knowledge? Or did he use his own money? He must be pretty rich to afford to do this for a friend:
John McCain (you know what I’m talking about).
On August 10th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, lgm said:John McCain (you know what I’m talking about).
How should I know what your talking about when you don’t?? So how does this relate to McCain & why should anyone care… he is as left as Edwards anyway.
The affair ended too soon for Edwards to be the father - at least according to the timeline he gave his wife…
I didn’t think of the possibility until her sister brought it up. Could it be that Rielle wasn’t getting paid enough non-hush money and set Edwards up?
Rielle Hunter had an affair with a married Edwards and then had a baby she claims was fathered by his married friend Andrew Young. No, she’s definitely NOT a “promiscuous person”.
Does anyone know the modern definition of “promiscuous”? I may not have kept up with the latest evolution of morality…
I think the ultimate definition of the word “promiscuous” is similar to the definition of the word “is”, it depends on what political party you belong to.
Edwards had NO reason to visit her in CA unless it IS his baby.
Apparently, you lie about one thing, you’ll lie about another.
Hope he explained THAT to his loving loyal wife…….soon to be ex?
Copied from here.
1. McCain arranges for an extortion investigation against he guy who blew the whistle on his wife’s theft of medicine from the charity she ran.
2. McCain brings a reporter with him on a visit to the ailing Mo Udall.
3. McCain threatens the job of a federal scientist for sticking to his opinion about whether a University of Arizona project threatens an endangered squirrel species.
4. A Republican governor is driven from office and replaced by a Democrat, Rose Mofford, who previously served as Secretary of State and has little knowledge of the Central Arizona Project, a huge piece of Federal pork. McCain helps Republican efforts to get her recalled by setting her up to be blindsided at a Senate hearing just eight days after she is sworn in. He gleefully brags about his role at lunch with a newspaper publisher — “I’ll embarrass a Democrat any time I get the chance” — then proceeds directly to tell a bunch of reporters “I’d never do anything like that.” He later calls the Governor and tells her “I didn’t have anything to do with that.”
It simply amazes me how people who are otherwise intelligent people fall for Democratic BS.
“I didn’t inhale…”
“I did not have sexual relations with that woman…”
“..depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is…”
“That is not the man I knew for 20 years..”
Simply amazing.
I’ll re-state my take:
Friday - - Hannity was condemning the actions of Edwards but made excuses for J.McCain’s adulterous activity.
A shack up is a shack up…no excuses.!!!
CS
For Democrats
Promiscuous = More than three sex partners in a 24 hour period, or 12 if there is alcohol involved, 16 if you are out of town and have alcohol involved. Note Oral sex, consenting minors and paid professionals do NOT count.
For Rebublicans
Promiscuous = More than one sex partner since you swore an oath before god to love and cherish until death do you part. Oral, phone and internet sex count.
On August 10th, 2008 at 2:49 pm, lgm said: Copied from here.
WOW really! And all this time I doubted he could lead… but he seems to be in the same league as BJ Clinton! I feel better about voting for him now… I just hope they don’t crazy glue the levers in my polling place again. It is such a hassle to get the write in ballot, file the statement, & wait years for nothing to happen…
Wow, lgm’s active today. Is mom out for the day?
No Concerned Citizen - he is doing double time because he’ll have to go back to school next week and they’ll limit his computer time in class.
Papa Louie
Modern Definition of “promiscuous” …
See William Jefferson Clinton for the latest updated parsing to ensure an accurate and current interpretation …
lgm …
Do you even know what the “Central Arizona Project” is? …
F.Y.I.
I rather doubt it or you would know the intrinsic importance of that project along with numerous other similar projects across Arizona … these are irrigation canal systems that move water from various lakes and rivers (including the Colorado River) to the agricultural valleys in Central Arizona where a lot of produce is grown … CAP is only one of those systems …
Now … as to the topic at hand on this thread …
Regarding Edwards and his lawyer buddy saying that Silky did not know about the money to Ms. Hunter … gimme a break … but then … maybe that was a part of the “2 Americas” …
WOW LGM you really got us there. It says reality based right in the name, so it couldn’t possibly be biased or untrue, could it?
You’re probably right, gayle, but there is another possibility. Rielle may have used blackmail to get Edwards to come see her by threatening to go public. And it may have been a ruse on her part to set him up for the National Enquirer. She might have been willing to risk losing all those future non-hush money payoffs from Edwards if the Enquirer was willing to pay her more.
This story still has a lot of unanswered questions. The money trail has yet to be unraveled, and that should be a legitimate concern even for posters like lgm.
History has a way of repeating itself, especially for Presidential candidates. This is Gary Hart and “Monkey Business” X 2. Is there anyone who is honestly surprised that it came to this for John Edwards?
That would not include any Democrats who are all busy sympathizing with the Edwards over this tragedy and are focusing on healing. As predicted, John Edwards is being held up as courageous for the honesty in this difficult situation. Rumour has it he may even get a nomination for the Noble Peace Prize for his leadership he has displayed through this crisis.
Hey, that’s not the Hannity I knew! Hannity does not speak for me!
Well, that excuse seems to work for Democrats…
Has McCain admitted to having an affair? Does the evidence meet the MSM “standard for proof”:
One other note regarding lgm #11
The “author” of his link is one “Amy Silverman”, one of the many leftist supporting writers at a local “rag” called the Phoenix New Times … (NOT to be confused with the “Hollywood actress Amy Silverman”) …
The “New Times” is a waste of paper and trees that praises all things Democrat, all the Open Borders groups and their supporting politicians … all the while following the standard line of liberal demagoguery against anything conservative or Republican …
This “paper” is one of the most vocal groups against Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his crackdowns on the illegal alien trafficking that goes through Phoenix …
Just so all of you have a better understanding of the person being quoted by lgm …
The truth only comes out in dribs and drabs in these kinds of cases. Anybody that believes that Edwards has told all that he knows or has done is literally retarded.
He met her in a bar and she ends up in a $3 million house in Santa Barbara. Classy, both of them. Tell me again why we want public financing of campaigns…
He met her in a bar.I wonder if it was near closing time?Everyone starts looking better when closing time is near.
#6 lgm said:
If you’re insinuating that John McCain’s finance director paid off one of his former mistresses with a $3 million home, 2598.96 miles from his residence, including regular monthly annuities, ($15 thousand?) with “private funds” that John McCain “knew nothing about,” then I don’t know what you’re talking about.
But if you are violating the liberal “Bill Clinton” standard (private lives don’t matter, just move on) in order to distract attention from possible FEC and IRS violations on the part of Team Edwards, by trying to equate this evolving case with that of John McCain’s past…then I guess I hear what you’re saying.
Aw c’mon, leave Gertrude (lgm) alone. She’s just doing what a sea gull does naturally. Swoop in, make a lot of noise, crap on everything, then fly off. I’m suprised the Heathcliff (Rusty) isn’t flying cover for her.
1)you really should try to find enough focus to stay on subject.
2)you should try to find more mature comic books to read. Try your local drug store.
Hey, you, your mess’en with Texas he’a pilgrim, you bett’a back off!
Thanks, rignerd, that helps explain the rising popularity of the Democratic party in spite of it’s abject failures. It also explains why so many Republican politicians want us to be more like the Democrats. They envy the Democrat standard for morality. It might also explains what McCain is doing when he reaches across the aisle…
I think it also could explain what Schwarzenegger meant when he urged the party to take up Democrat issues, to “invade” and “crossover the center”, and to “be the big tent”. Up to 16 partners would take a big tent.
Ok, who lost their user id and password so lgm and ChristianSoldier could find them and post gibberish here?
It just occurred to me why so many liberals defend liars and cheaters like Edwards and Bill Clinton. They say to themselves, “There, except for
the grace of Goda hidden camera, go I”PatriotRider - do you think lgn or Rusty will understand the “Gertrude and Heathcliffe” reference?
I feel better about my life when the mighty fall.
Maybe. Probably not since they were beaten and locked in the closet by their socialist parents and not allowed to watch Red Skelton. Who, by the way was a great patriot.
For the benefit of the younger crowd, Gertrude and Heathcliff were characters of Red that were two stupid sea gulls. it seems somewhat appropriate nicknames for the two sea gulls (lgm and Rusty) that frequent this blog.
A number of blogs are now suggesting that the media intentionally waited to go after this story so that Edwards could take votes from Hillary, making Obama the nominee. I’m not big on conspiracies but it sounds pretty plausible to me!
Go to the original sources for lgm’s(#11) cut & paste job and you’ll find quite a few important details that shine entirely new lights on his insinuations.
1) After the former director, Mr. Gosinski, whom she had fired, of Mrs. McCain’s non-profit medical charity (AVMT) went to the DEA and reported her for illegal use of drugs, then filed a wrongful-termination lawsuit against AVMT and offered to settle it for $250,000, the McCain’s attorney (John Dowd)considered it to be a possible case of extortion and turned the matter over to the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office for investigation. During the subsequent trial, Mr. Gosinski alleged Mrs. McCain had asked him to lie to help her adopt a baby. That was proven to be a falsehood. Mr. Gosinski was also shown in court to have told other AVMT workers he would blackmail Mrs. McCain if she ever fired him. Gosinski eventually dropped his lawsuit, and the McCains did not prosecute him. Report HERE.
2)The person who complained about McCain bringing a reporter with him to see Mo Udall was Bob Neuman. He was an aide to Udall for many yars in the 70s and 80s. So — what angered Neuman? The New York Times Magazine was doing a piece on McCain. Writer Michael Lewis was spending a lot of time with him to get the story. Udall was very ill in the D.C. veteran’s hospital at that time, and in fact, died a year later. McCain took Lewis along with him on his regular visit to see Udall. That angered Neuman. He thought McCain should have cleared such a visit with Udall first. It’s not so unusual that a long time Udall aide might be protective of his dying boss, is it?
But what else does Neuman have to say about McCain’s Udall visits? “He does deserve credit for the time he spent with Udall during his final years. “There was no steadier visitor,” Bob Neuman recalls of McCain’s visits to his old boss’ bedside during Udall’s very long struggle with Parkinson’s disease. And for that, Neuman says, McCain earned his “respect and admiration and affection.”
3)Different studies in the 1980s yielded different opinions about whether building three telescopes in the Mount Graham International Observatory would harm the endangered Mount Graham red squirrel population. McCain differed vociferously with a forest service official. A 4/24/08 report shows the construction did not unduly harm the squirrels, so McCain was right.
4. First, politicians are politicians on both sides of the aisle. Democrats have been doing to Bush what McCain allegedly did to Mofford since he took ofice, too. Remember the trashed offices left behind by the Clintonistas? McCain is no saint, nor are any Democrats.
Nor for that matter is Amy Silverman, the author of the McCain diatribe. She glowingly reports of being contacted by various news organizations and reporters looking for dirt on McCain, but after they have spoken with her, none decide to use her muck. She attributes that to the fact that they have suddenly fallen in love with McCain, something which she tells us readers very quickly after starting: “…I never did fall for him in the way reporters fall for politicians…” No kidding, Ms. Silverman? You coulda knocked me over with a feather with that statement!
So, essentially, conservative hater lgm stumbled upon McCain hater Silverman’s rant, failed to read beyond the bold type, because it fed his own biases, and thought the rest of us were equally as dense as himself.
Isn’t that the usual liberal faux pas? They think we’re all stoooopid and unable to think for ourselves.
Wow.. you are right on top of things..
timely..
what’s next? Breaking news of the Hindenburg?
Well done, Bachbone.
Yes, it’s ironic, since it’s the libtard who fails to think for himself, i.e., our own village idiot, lgm.
That Bloody Fred Baron was in a fix
He’d tried everything, but he’d run out of tricks
Snoopy fired once and he fired twice
And that Bloody Fred Baron went spinning out of sight
Hmmm … sure that wasn’t “Silky and the Fred Baron”? …
I can think of three letters x 3:
FBI
IRS
FEC
For once, these agencies need to track down and secure evidence of wrong-doing by these people. If (as usual), they pay lip service to this investigation, perhaps they should be disbanded. Of course, the current crop of elected officials (R and D) would not allow that to happen. They have these agencies right where they want them…under the thumb.
Bob Woodruff missed so much in his interview with John Edwards. Here is one occasion when a trial lawyer could have useful. Woodruff should have asked Edwards: “Your One America Foundation is tax exempt. Yet you took $114,000.00 from the chariable donations and gave it to Rielle Hunter. Was not that a)a fraud you were playing on the donors who thought they were supporting an antipoverty program? b) a fraud upon the Internal Revenue Service and c) How is that you chose Ms. Hunter to be your videographer when she had no experience in making videos? d) How did you choose to pay her $114,000.00 for making four videos that only went on your website briefly and then were removed clandestinely when word of the affair leaked out?
So, someone dug up some dirt on McCain. Does that suddenly make what Edwards did OK?
I get it now, the devil didn’t make him do it, the Republicans made him do it.
Edwards should have honor and Integrity in marriage like Rudy Guiliani or John McCain with his 1st wife or Newt Gingrich
I can conlude there’s only one reason why Silky “emphatically volunteered” to take a DNA paternity test:
Through his lawyer buddy Fred Baron, he had already acquired Hunter’s complete assurance that she would “never permit one”.
One has to be slick to be Silky, and heaven knows BJ Clinton served as a wonderful working template for Silky’s performance.
Two America’s!!
Two womens!!!
Two Families!!
He seems to prefer two!!!!
You forgot fondling your own wife in a public place, (Jack Ryan - if it actually happened?) and …ummmm…foot tapping!
LGM
What a terrible resource, LGM. You complain about bias on here, and yet you yourself go to a site like that and post that left-wing spin on here.
Republican mistakes does not give democrats a permission slip to do the same.
Really, some liberals have backwards ideas about equality.
As Charlie Brown would say: “Good Grief!”