Obama’s abortion lies
Keep him away from the babies.
There’s a newly uncovered paper trail demonstrating Barack Obama’s abortion militancy you can believe in (hat tip – Jill Stanek):
Newly obtained documents prove that in 2003, Barack Obama, as chairman of an IL state Senate committee, voted down a bill to protect live-born survivors of abortion – even after the panel had amended the bill to contain verbatim language, copied from a federal bill passed by Congress without objection in 2002, explicitly foreclosing any impact on abortion. Obama’s legislative actions in 2003 – denying effective protection even to babies born alive during abortions – were contrary to the position taken on the same language by even the most liberal members of Congress. The bill Obama killed was virtually identical to the federal bill that even NARAL ultimately did not oppose.
The NRLC’s Obama paper trail index is here.
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And here’s a related howler about the Party of Planned Parenthood:
ABC NEWS: Are Democrats Now Pro-Life? As Convention Draws Near, New Talk of a Pro-Life Presence
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Democrats are always “pro-life”, pro their own life that is. Anything or anyone that makes them feel uncomfortable, inconvenient, or otherwise unhappy and “unfulfilled” must be eliminated.
Even newborn children.
Evil – absolutely evil.
There’s no reason to deny a newborn survivor of abortion the right to life. Take the child away from the mother that doesn’t want him. It’s that simple.
Of course, the demand that these children die reinforces the notion that abortion isn’t about choice, but how many children can be killed.
Paging Jason Voorhees, paging Jason Voorhees!!!!!
So he doesn’t want to protect live babies. WOW.
There’s the kiss of death!
HA,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!
I second that.
In other words, they want to fool voters by pretending to share views of mainstream Americans. This applies to their views on religion, taxes, schools, gay marriage, cultural decay, foreign policy and guns to name a few. Unfortunately too many Americans don’t pay close enough attention to politics to know what the Dems agenda is and only listen to carefully prepared soundbites. What they are always trying to figure out is: How can we get the message out without letting everbody know what the message is?
This is as good a time as any to give an update. Back in March, I posted that my grandson had just been born at 26 weeks gestation (some children are aborted at that age). Well, he is home, been home for 2 months and is going gangbusters! A healthy 8 lb boy! Glory by to God for ALL of our children!
The thing that’s so bothersome is he’ll give his standard deceitful answer that sounds good to his newsmedia pals, and they’ll never question him on it.
It’s the same cycle as the handgun ban questionaire. In ‘96 when it was expedient, he said he’d ban possession, sale, mfr of handguns, in 2008 when questioned he says an aide filled it out, then when evidence (his handwriting in the margins) he’s not held accountable.
It’s almost identical to what the media did for their former idol Clinton in the 90’s, ignoring or justifying his lies.
ooopss “Glory be to God” I meant…
Sheesh – I need to go to bed and get back up again – that’s two for two…
Yep. Pretty much. But I’m still waiting for folks to call Jill Stanek an “opportunist” for showing Obama supports nothing less than infanticide in his pursuit of abortion.
And, of course, an explanation why those of us who oppose this and other forms of abortion hate women and health care and science and all that usual blather.
I’d really be curious to see someone defend Obama’s position on the Born Alive Infant Protection Act.
What are all the republicans going to do if McAmnesty brings in a pro-choice VP? Will they follow those morals they are always screaming about and find another candidate to vote for, or stay home? I don’t see how they can vote for McAmnesty and show they are serious about their values if it is Tom Ridge or some other RINO.
beautiful, congrats
It’s about time that Obama was exposed for the ghoul that he is. I’m not a one-issue voter, but his position in this regard is indefensible.
It reminds of Chris Matthews’s comment the morning after Obama got drubbed in the PA primaries. When asked what did Obama in, Matthews reluctantly admitted that for PA Catholics Obama’s “punished with a baby” comment called into question his devotion to “the sancity of life.”
Obama may be the cool cat in this election. But he’s also extraordinarily callous regarding the sanctity of life.
Like THE ONE, I sometimes miss sermons at my church. The one where Jesus preaches the gospel of tearing unborn babies from their mother’s womb I haven’t heard. Is that in Matthew? Perhaps Revelations?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the libs seem to be saying it’s BETTER for the child not to be born, and they kill it in the name of compassion?
I’m with you, EQ.
Its MURDER.
Guarenteed under Obama’s No HEALTH plan, witholding of service will become the norm. If they can kill infants, they can kill the old people. Its not much of a stretch.
Sometimes murder is the more convenient choice, unless, of course, it involves an illegal being put to death for slaughtering a family.
I don’t know if he will. I won’t vote for a pro-abortion candidate, period. So I guess then I wouldn’t vote for McCain (sorry, folks).
But I do believe most on the conservative/GOP side are more open to pro-life movements than the mainstream Democrats. We have a much better chance of getting justices and policies that will allow for pro-life legislation to take hold and flourish.
Indeed, the Dems are so anti-life they shut Bob Casey out of the 1992 Democratic National Convention because he committed the heresy of wanting to be pro-life.
And the Minnesota delegates that year were beaten for carrying pro-life and pro-Casey signs. Sounds familiar, no? Always seems to be okay when pro-lifers get beat up by those oh-so-compassionate abortion folks.
Since when is murder about morals?
In Obama’s vote against BAIPA, he expressed his belief that the doctor hired to kill the baby would leap into action to save the baby if it were born alive. I disagree. The hit man rarely provides a pressure bandage and CPR.
Good post. We need to get the truth about this guy out and into the open. The Old Media sure won’t do their job so keep up the good work.
You mean Obama is telling a lie? My question: when is he telling the truth? This man waffles more than John Kerry. He will say anything to get elected.
Pretty consistent from a candidate whose true beliefs slip out in an unscripted remark where he described unwanted children as a “curse”.
Typical of the Left: obsessed with the rights of violent criminals and bloodthirsty terrorists, but not so much with innocent babies who miraculously manage to survive an attempted murder. How does Obama sleep at night? Does he even have a conscience?
Okay. Just for perspective, look at the larger version of that pic of Obama with the baby that Michelle has on the front page of the site with this thread.
Congratulations!
He kind of looks like he had to hold his breath to kiss the baby…
Indeed. We can argue the death penalty in depth elsewhere, but the same chemicals used in lethal injection (which are deemed “inhumane” by death penalty opponents) are used in some abortions. Likewise, no one in their right mind would advocate ripping apart a death row inmate limb from limb, or sticking a scissors in the base of his skull to suck out his brains to crush his head as a form of execution.
But all these are perfectly acceptable forms of abortion.
Additionally, an abortionist in Kansas stabbed a 35-week old infant born alive after an abortion. From my source:
But, by all means, let’s allow this to continue unfettered. For the greater good and all that.
And let’s not forget Michelle Obama’s thoughts on the subject.
I her fear mongering letter to potential Obama donors during one of Barak’s Illinois campaigns, she strongly advocated for partial birth abortions, opining that laws prohibiting the practice were “flawed”, and stating:
Here’s a copy of the original letter:
http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/05/michelle_obamas.html
Much to Michelle Obama’s chagrin, the Supreme Court disagreed with her legal analysis that a ban on partial birth abortions was unconstitutional. Guess that Harvard Law degree lost its mojo.
I was wondering if it was just me.
I just read a post about left-wing bloggers wishing for the death of VFF members on their trip back to Iraq – and they support the killing of children born alive. What’s next – just off anyone who disagrees with them? Obviously they have no value for human life in general.
The more I see his smug face… the more I find out about him… the more he makes me want to vomit.
God bless the souls of all of those little babies.
Can you blame him Barry? If having a baby is punishment, then kissing is just pure torture!
Heinous. What kind of a human being can do something like that?
Absolutely sickening.
This is the TRUTH about abortion. I can hardly see my computer monitor at this moment…
# 36 atheling—..what kind of a human …can do …that…
..abortionist …stabbed a 35-week old infant born alive….
Those who-like B Hussein O. and A Hitler-believe that M. Sanger’s(PP) ideas on eugenics were correct -or “the fetus is an inconvenience”…In other words PRO_-DEATH “ideals”.
EQ, I agree with you, and believe me, I have great angst about the prospect of voting for McCain. I PRAY that he will pick a pro-life running mate, not another RINO. But if not voting for McCain+OTHER RINO means allowing a monster like Obama into the White House, I can’t stand back and let that happen either.
I know, and I’m sorry it bothers people. It bothers me. But we have a right – women have a right – to know what really happens during an abortion. It’s repulsive, and only acknowledging that will bring an end to this horror.
A human being who believes selfishness trumps all else.
So far as I see, no one’s defended this yet. But they’re out there. Everyone who supports an Obama candidacy supports such horror.
My roots are in Kansas, and my family still lives there (in fact, the 2006 Repub candidate for guv is my dad’s doctor).
I cannot for the life of me understand how a red state like Kansas elected Sibelius twice (thankfully, she is term limiting out after this term). She is an open supporter of “Tiller the baby killer”, and actually hosted a reception for Tiller and his staff at the Governor’s mansion (he donates a lot of $$$ to the guv). She has stonewalled investigations into allegations that Tiller practices his barbarism on under age girls. O’Reilly’s producer cornered her at a Governor’s conference, and she referred to Tiller as a “health care provider”.
Evil, both of them. Absolute evil.
And she is on the list as a possible VP for His Most High Obamaship?
In this case, I’ll simply trust Obama more than the conservative noise machine. Write what you will, I simply will not believe it. Many of you act the same way: global warming, WMD, evolution.
REMEMBER OBAMA ON ABORTION?
If this does not answer ANY questions on where Obama stands, you are not looking for the truth.
Trust Obama to do what? Support the murder of born children?
There is ample evidence to support the damage of abortion (see my post for one example), rather than the policies you cite.
Funny you mention “evolution” when everyone who supports abortion ignores the very real evolution of a child from conception to birth.
n August 11th, 2008 at 11:48 am, lgm said:
In this case, I’ll simply trust Obama more than the conservative noise machine. Write what you will, I simply will not believe it. Many of you act the same way: global warming, WMD, evolution.
What are you talking about here? What’s your point?
The living child of a failed abortion should already be protected. First degree murder charges should be brought against the doctors and mother of the year candidates for going through with it.
Abortion is absolutely wrong, but I can understand why the bill was not passed. We’re talking about baby killing centers, not baby hospitals. If suddenly abortion doctors are required to give medical care and attention to babies that they are trying to kill, they would need a separate center and staff and materials etc., which kind of goes against the whole spirit of the facility.
Ideologically, the bill is pure gold, but we’re not living in the 50s anymore, folks.
Not understanding that many aborted babies may have actually increased democrat party numbers, many leftists put more value on non-human life, including death-row inmates.
That was no human being. You are right – sickening.
Also to be noted. Clinton, on his final three days as POTUS, signed into law that a new-born baby is a fetus. Why? Well, for this very reason. If a baby is born accidentally, you can kill it in the name of abortion. Often, there is a 5 gallon bucket of water in the room in case a baby is born by accident. In such a case, you just drop the baby in the water and nobody knows as there is no sound from the baby.
It is all so very sick.
The point is he trusts Obama to create the liberal utopia he wants – where free speech is stifled, dissent is ‘hatred’, abortion is free and available anytime before or after birth, where the government limits how much carbon we can use (i.e., limits on driving, buying goods, heating our homes, our jobs, etc.).
Protecting infants…not so much a priority.
I’d like to know how infanticide is now a “women’s health issue” and when exactly a “woman’s right to choose” ends.
If you don’t believe in aborting unwanted future government supported anchor babies and gang members would you support rounding them up and forcing the sterilization of all of them before they get pregnant?
Obama would probably make Tiller The Baby Killer Surgeon General.
What I don’t understand is why this post is being labeled as “Obama’s lies.”
Senator Obama was on the record for his opposition to this IL legislation on Constitutional grounds and people bring it up on these threads all the time. So where was he lying?
This information has been ‘out’ for at least a month, if not longer.
Believe me, I’ve argued with liberals and was able to get them to admit that there is no difference between a 3-month pre-natal and 3-month post-natal child. As such, they agreed that their stance on abortion should give the parents (well, let’s be honest, mother) the right to kill a child.
This is what we face.
lgm – leave it to you to bury your head up your a$$ and ignore the topic of this post. We are talking about the post-birth slaughter of a new-born child. Yet you, like most left-wing moonbats, choose to simply ignore those facts you don’t like. What evidence do you have that any of the story is false? That it conflicts with your worship of His Most High Obamaship? Obama’s support of pro-death policies is well documented, from far than right wing sources.
If your are willing to blindly follow and believe in Obama regardless of the facts, then you are just as evil as he his.
And yes, I use the word “evil” deliberately.
Rusty, IIRC, Obama stated his opposition to the law because it might limit abortion.
If the above is true, then he opposed the bill even after that loophole was closed. And he lied about it.
Rusty – shut the h*** up! You want to piss and moan about the title of this thread, and ignore the content, that being Obama’s pro-death beliefs?
If you had posted prior to my post of 12:04 I would have included your name in it as well.
There is no justification for this kind of barbarism, not in Kansas, not in the USA, and not in the world.
???
Once again lgm practices his favorite technique… ignore the issue at hand and point the finger back at those with whom he disagrees.
lgm, the thing about your asinine comment is that you are saying that you will just put your fingers in your ears and sing “La la la, not listening to you,” like a 2-year-old rather than doubt anything Obama says. On man-made global warming, WMDs, and evolution (which we won’t go into here since they are not the topic of coversation) people who oppose your views have real facts and evidence (or lack thereof) to support their opposition. We are not the ones with our fingers in our ears when it comes to the facts on those things.
Please stop this nonsense. The Constitution doesn’t guarantee the murder of babies, regardless of the euphemisms and legal contortions that have been ginned up to justify it.
Rusty, if (when) Roe v. Wade is overturned would you be just as adamant that babies MUST be protected in the womb at all costs?
“The only problem with Hudson’s logic is that it requires comparing apples to oranges. The Illinois and federal bills differed not only in language, but regulatory impact. Critically, the Illinois version of the bill that Obama opposed was also bundled with other proposals that would have put doctors at risk of prosecution, which led the Illinois State Medical Society to oppose the measure along with Obama. The state bill also carried greater influence in terms of enforcement, since states had been granted greater leeway in regulating abortion practices ever since the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1992 ruling in the case of Planned Parenthood v. Casey.”
“In sum, comparing the federal bill passed by Congress in 2002 with the various Illinois measures proposed during Obama’s tenure in the state legislature is a bogus enterprise meant to confuse people who lack the time and resources required to tease out the differences between them.”
But in a close election year, the party and its presumptive nominee, Barack Obama, are rethinking how they talk about the issue.
It’s called talking out of both sides of your mouth, which he, Soros and his Marxist thugs are expert at.
Lgm
Don’t trust any POLITICIAN. Look at their voting record. Oh I forgot , Obama doesn’t have much of that.
maybe he can clear this up at saddleback? ha j/k
The ‘holy’ trinity of the American left – Me, Myself and I
So Obama supports murdering innocent newborn babies? Not just babies still in the womb? That’s not surprising at all. After all…
I don’t see how any Catholic, or any Christian for that matter, could ever support or vote for any Democrat.
Democrats… Killing Babies so you don’t have to be “penalized” by them.
Honestly though, you peoples need to do some research before jumping on the doomed bandwagon.
Seriously.
Umm, that’s the eventual plan. How can we trust anyone who fears God so little that they would refuse to protect a child, born alive, the product of a failed inutero infanticide? Can you trust such people to provide your Grandmother with life-prolonging medical care, once they sieze control of the health resources of our country? Of course you can’t. As I have said before, the only life Democrats are interested in saving is “minority” cop killers, and child-rapists.
There is so much material for McCain to work with if he chooses to do so. Yes, the MSM will go ballistic but so what? The MSM will do Obama’s work regardless of how chummy McCain tries to be with Diane Sawyer, Katie Couric, et al. When Obama was in the State Senate in Illinois, his pet issue was his fervent opposition to the death penalty. That issue caused lots of problems for Dukakis in 1988. I don’t understand why McCain does not have a commercial about it. On the abortion issue, we know what will happen when the MSM, led by Tom Brokaw, hosts the debates. Brokaw will ask McCain if he thinks women who have abortion and doctors who do abortions should go to prison. Obviously, McCain can not say yes to that question. And then Obama gets to hit a home run in response. That is what will happen when Lehrer and Brokaw host the debates.
If only lib democrats were as vigilant in the War on Terror as they are in their War on the Young and Defenseless. To libs, the death of a militant islamist is more heinous than the death of an infant. Sick.
So then apparently every other Democrat who supported it was violating the Constitution. Got it.
I thought you of all people would draw the line at open infanticide. I’m sorely disappointed.
No. Um, hello Communist China. I think the law should be changed to make “anchor babies” a non-issue. But you start sterilizing people through the government and what’s to stop them from sterilizing me, or the other Catholic families I know who have 6, 7, 8 kids (or more)?
The solution is to promote personal responsibility, accepting consequences for behavior, and creating a culture that respects women and preserves the institution of traditional, man/woman marriage as the safest, best place for having sex and bearing children.
I knew Rusty and lgm would show up to defend murdering unborn and already born infants.
These are the types of people who see no problem with sticking a knife in a baby’s ribs and twisting it, but have a problem with injecting a clean needle into a rapist-murderer on death row.
This is how demented and sick these perverts are. Yes, perverts. They are so twisted that black is white, evil is good, and down is up.
Liberalism truly is a mental disease, and these two sickos and their ilk prove it here every damned day.
Rob is the other sicko. He hates so much that it has perverted into a murderous fury.
“Liberalism truly is a mental disease, and these two sickos and their ilk prove it here every damned day”
Ignorance and utter stupidity actually IS a mental disease, as opposed to less government, more freedom and logical, realistic views on life, death, and the pursuit of happiness.
Is there a way to batch mail all Malkin supporters to North Korea where you’d actually fit in and be welcomed with open arms?
If so sign me up, I’ll gladly help front the shipping costs! Overnight even!
“Save the planet. Save the animals. Save the trees. Abort humans.” I guess they don’t realize how ridiculous it all sounds.
I am not defending anything. I am just pointing out what Senator Obama said at the time. I don’t agree with that argument.
I do agree with the argument being set forth by Apples in comments 61 and 62.
Um, considering abortion will still be legal in many, if not most, states, then, no, I won’t. I’ll be driving people across the state line into friendlier territory.
Rusty:
Too bad someone didn’t do the same for your mother.
He certainly gives pro-abortion liberals a fine load of ammunition, that’s for sure.
He wants a good example of the insanity of his proposed abortion/sterilization program? Look no further than the Duggar family in Arkansas.
Back when Mrs. Duggar had her 16th child, I was part of a wedding message board community. The board lit up that day, most people arguing Mrs. Duggar needed to be “spayed” because her kids would be welfare recipients. Little did they know that the Duggar family has no debt (none, zippo, zilch, nada) – I know childless couples who can’t boast that! They pay cash for everything, and built their large home with minimal assistance entirely out of their own pocket. They get no government assistance of any kind.
When I pointed this out, I was attacked as being “closeminded” and humorless.
But there isn’t a doubt in my mind the target of sterilization would be families like the Duggars, and not inner city folk with 3 different “baby daddies.” Either way, it’s not right.
#53 rusty said:
Because the attached article claims, with Illinois Senate documentation, that Obama still voted against protecting babies that survive abortion – even after the federal language, clarifying that the act would not be used to undermine Roe vs. Wade, was inserted in 2003.
According to the attached documentation (please see paragraphs 25 – 35 of Jill Stanek’s attached research into the matter) Barack Obama continued to shoot the State bill down while it was still in committee – even after the federal language, clarifying that the act would not be used to undermine Roe vs. Wade was inserted, and he then continued to claim (up until this month) that his votes were based on the lack of any such federal language insertion.
For the sake of consistancy, I would suggest you adopt lgm’s position on this matter if you still object to MM’s thread title after reading all of Jill Stanek’s attached investigation.
#42 lgm said:
Wouldn’t want a little thing like the law to disuade you from making sure as many babies die as possible, right Rusty?
But the state bill and federal bill were still completely different. Just because his primary argument was on Constitutional grounds doesn’t mean that there weren’t other problems.
I was born after Roe. My older brother wasn’t. My mom was offered a ride to abortion friendly New Hampshire (to think MA used to be so anti-choice!). She turned it down. Her children were her choice on her terms.
Rusty loves killing babies. He invokes the law to defend killing them. And if the law is reversed, he will simply ignore it in order to continue killing them.
Sick pervert.
I wouldn’t be violating any law unless the federal government made a law making driving someone across the border for an abortion illegal. With a Dem Legislature, I don’t see that happening anytime soon.
I don’t like killing babies. I don’t even like abortion. I do like adult women making their own choices regarding their fetus and not having people get in their way.
You mean like this? Or this:
Or this – just a few examples of gross negligence at Planned Parenthood?
Here’s more information on malpractice, botched abortions, and other horrors. All in a post-Roe world, where abortion is supposed to be no different than getting your nails done.
Is that the friendly territory you’re talking about, Rusty? You’d drive a woman to a clinic – and this was a “safe, legal” clinic – and let her go through that hell?
I’m beginning to think there isn’t a doubt in my mind you’d slam the door in the face of a friend who came to you with post-abortion trauma. After all, she’s just an anomaly. The “real” tragedies are the women who can’t experience the
abortion clinicbutcher shop first hand.There. Fixed that. As for women killing “their” fetus, you just used the same argument that pro slavers did back in the 19th century.
After all, slaves were mere property, just as the fetus is a woman’s property, as you claim.
This is an issue that McCain and the GOP should really run with. Obama’s position on the IL bill to protect live-born survivors of abortion is just ghoulish. Makes even “partial-birth” abortion (read: “total-death” abortion) look humane. Even those moderates and liberals who are generally in favor of some abortion rights will recoil in horror at the thought of Obama seeing nothing wrong leaving a live-born baby to die in some broom closet.
You make it seem so selfless and heroic that she chose not to kill her children. As for “on her terms,” that part applies before conception. Once a child is conceived, only one of the parties (mother) has a say in whether the child lives or dies, in your world.
How ironic that if she had “chosen” the other way, you wouldn’t be here to defend that choice.
There’s the crux of the matter…convenience vs. inconvenience.
All of this talk about when life begins (is it a baby/human/fetus), fetal pain, etc… is just a distraction and smokescreen from the fact that pro-abortion folks simply want the option of being able to abort a child whenever that child becomes inconvenient.
Regardless, of whether that’s two months into the pregnancy or seven. I’m simply disgusted.
Sounds like you do, Rusty. How many women do you play on getting pregnant that you make you “…driv(e) people across the state line into friendlier territory.”? Will you be creating a caravan service?
What you said was that if RvW was overturned and your state banned abortion, you would be ferrying people (not just women) across the border for abortion.
Sounds like you have a special place in your heart for seeing babies die.
And they have every right to do whatever they want with their bodies before they create a separate human being. After that, they have no more right to kill another person than you have a right to go out and murder someone.
When Roe is overturned – and it will be in the very near future – the flood gates will open, and the pro-life movement will at last be on equal ground to be heard and gain broader appeal in the abortion debate, i.e., the left will no longer be able to shut us down or out of the mainstream of public discourse by portraying us in the media as the “fringe” element.
After that, all but the most stubbornly liberal states will fall in line behind eradicating abortion from their borders.
THANKS MICHELLE!!!
I am looking at the newbies and ROFL. Man, have you people been waiting for your chance. I am loving this!!!
Keep up the good work, I love you guys!
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atheling should change his name to pervert, it’s much more befitting.
The person “in the way” is the fetus. Why would anyone want a law that turns mothers into murderers?
Bingo! You hit the nail on the head, 30. It is a smokescreen.
Pro baby killers are simply that: Pro baby killing for convenience. They don’t give a damn about truth, science, life, etc… It’s all about convenience for themselves, and to hell with principles and human life.