Obama’s abortion lies

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 11, 2008 10:23 AM


Keep him away from the babies.

There’s a newly uncovered paper trail demonstrating Barack Obama’s abortion militancy you can believe in (hat tip – Jill Stanek):

Newly obtained documents prove that in 2003, Barack Obama, as chairman of an IL state Senate committee, voted down a bill to protect live-born survivors of abortion – even after the panel had amended the bill to contain verbatim language, copied from a federal bill passed by Congress without objection in 2002, explicitly foreclosing any impact on abortion. Obama’s legislative actions in 2003 – denying effective protection even to babies born alive during abortions – were contrary to the position taken on the same language by even the most liberal members of Congress. The bill Obama killed was virtually identical to the federal bill that even NARAL ultimately did not oppose.

The NRLC’s Obama paper trail index is here.

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And here’s a related howler about the Party of Planned Parenthood:

ABC NEWS: Are Democrats Now Pro-Life? As Convention Draws Near, New Talk of a Pro-Life Presence

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  1. #402128
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:15 pm, Rob said:

    But feel free to correct me if I’m wrong,

    I think you have paid attention well and I probably have a lot of other great ideas that will show up in time. Take notes, there may be a pop quiz!

    I don’t know Rob’s religious affiliations, but whatever it is (or isn’t), he certainly does no favors to whatever group(s) he represents.

    I don’t belong to a group; I don’t follow, and I don’t care to lead.

    I do what I wanna do,
    say what I wanna say,
    live how I wanna live,
    play how I wanna play,
    dance how I wanna dance,
    kick and I slap a friend.

  2. #402130
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:16 pm, atheling said:

    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:03 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    I can vouch for that as well. I have been astounded with Rob’s ferocity and advocation for killing people for being illegal and unborn.

    I want to deport illegals and build a fence. But I draw the line at killing them (unless they have been convicted of a crime that is punishable by death) just for being illegal.

    I oppose abortion. Apparently Rob supports it as a means for population control, i.e., poor people, non-whites, etc…

    He is simply, not much different than a Nazi eugenicist (which, by the way was a socialist party).

  3. #402139
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:18 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Fine, Rob. But that doesn’t make you right. Your love of wholesale murder of unborn children is sickening.

  4. #402140
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:18 pm, Rutherford420 said:

    baby whales are endangered, we have too many humans. Besides we can’t even provide housing, jobs, shelter, food, etc.. to the people that are already here, why is it so important we had more open handed orphans that you conservatives will continue to oppose providing aid to.

    Vote Obama: help overpopulation: http://tinyurl.com/6jb7l6

  5. #402155
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:28 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    baby whales are endangered, we have too many humans. Besides we can’t even provide housing, jobs, shelter, food, etc.. to the people that are already here, why is it so important we had more open handed orphans that you conservatives will continue to oppose providing aid to.

    Because murdering unborn children is never the solution to any problem. If you’re an overpopulation, human extinction type, by all means…set an example and reduce your own carbon footprint permanently.

    Welfare programs need to stop because we need to hold people accountable for their actions. Hate to break it to you, but not everyone would go to work even if there were jobs for them. Thanks to liberals, people think they’re entitled to not work and have the government take care of them.

    But don’t act like babies are the enemy here. Ignorance, coupled with rampant liberalism that encourages irresponsibility and entitlement are the enemies.

  6. #402175
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:34 pm, Rob said:

    Fine, Rob. But that doesn’t make you right. Your love of wholesale murder of unborn children is sickening.

    Hallalulya, sister! Pass the plate.

  7. #402177
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:35 pm, lgm said:

    abstractmind said (#183):

    there’s nothing wrong with being an atheist or agnostic :(

    just my 2 cents there.

    Agreed, but it’s not an opinion shared by everyone here.

  8. #402186
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:38 pm, Elwood P. Dowd said:

    On August 11th, 2008 at 3:43 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    So, your comment leaves me stumped.

    I don’t know if you saw this thread, Elwood, but Rob is of the persuasion that abortion should be forced upon welfare recipients and their children – and, as he said above – the same should be sterilized so as to prevent having more children.

    He also thinks a family – mother, father, financially stable – that chooses to have 16 kids (the Duggars now are up to #18, by the way) should not exist and that Mrs. Duggar should have been spayed a long time ago.

    He sounds like a fun, compassionate guy.

    For the record, I think the Duggar family is amazing! I have checked out their website and I am just fascinated by them. We have our first child on the way (early next year) and we have been fretting over budgets… for just one baby. For this family to successfully raise 18 happy, healthy children debt-free amazes me. I would love to meet them and get some advice. In the past I have mentioned them to friends and when I describe their situation it is almost always met with disgust. I can’t understand why. Overpopulation or no, why is it bad for a good, solid family with no debt to keep having children?

  9. #402187
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:38 pm, JT said:

    I think religious organizations should pay property taxes on non-worship properties. Too many orgs own millions of dollars of rental property and pay no tax.

  10. #402188
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:38 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Agreed, but it’s not an opinion shared by everyone here.

    It depends. Atheists who attempt to remove all traces of religion from the public sphere, actively work to shut down churches and religious organizations, and classify religious parents as abusive are a problem.

    This:

    Hallalulya, sister! Pass the plate.

    Is a great example of the kind of contempt I’m talking about.

    Atheists who can wrap their heads around the meaning of the First Amendment, who respect religious beliefs and treat the rights of religious persons as equal to their own are fine.

    Abstractmind is the latter. Rob is the former.

  11. #402189
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:39 pm, atheling said:

    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:28 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    If you’re an overpopulation, human extinction type, by all means…set an example and reduce your own carbon footprint permanently.

    Hear hear! I second that! These overpopulation supporters should put their money where their mouth is and just get rid of themselves. Why do they impose it on others, but never themselves? Talk about hypocrisy.

    How about it, Rob?

  12. #402194
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:40 pm, pithy said:

    Two words: Barney Fife.

  13. #402198
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:41 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    We have our first child on the way (early next year) and we have been fretting over budgets… for just one baby.

    Hey…I know a family of 7 that has a food budget of $80/week. Including baby food and diapers.

    It can be done, and most large families are more likely to use, re-use and be economical with their resources than families with few children, or couples with no kids.

    Too many orgs own millions of dollars of rental property and pay no tax.

    Same damn thing can be said about every lefty group that calls itself “non-partisan” and enjoys tax-exempt status while openly breaking 501(c)(3) rules.

  14. #402203
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:43 pm, powerpro said:

    I am so glad this issue is starting (?) to garner attention.

    In this time where we’re burdened with McCain as our nominee and conservatives have little to *squee* over, very few things excite the base than the issue of abortion and I dare say, infanticide would generate even an even more enthusiastic effort to ensure the One never darkens the door of the Oval Office.

    Why isn’t NRLC running ads full tilt on this one issue? Is it just too early in the process for that kind of thing?

  15. #402208
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Why isn’t NRLC running ads full tilt on this one issue? Is it just too early in the process for that kind of thing?

    Don’t know – hope they do. The impact would be tremendous.

  16. #402220
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:48 pm, Rob said:

    Hear hear! I second that! These overpopulation supporters should put their money where their mouth is and just get rid of themselves. Why do they impose it on others, but never themselves? Talk about hypocrisy.

    How about it, Rob?

    No, I believe in Darwinism; survival of the fittest, and then we eat the dead. You sound fat… mmmmmm

    Lol, not really, I don’t want to eat you, I have an In-n-Out Burger just down the street.

    “Soylent Green is people!”

  17. #402221
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:48 pm, abstractmind said:

    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:15 pm, Rob said:

    Based on his lyrical prowess, i believe rob is a member of the Adams Family…or is a big MC Hammer fan :)

    LGM…we AGREE. OMG. I can has cheezburger! ;) You and i disagree on alot of things, but i’ll take that as a nice post :) Thanks.

    Atheists who can wrap their heads around the meaning of the First Amendment, who respect religious beliefs and treat the rights of religious persons as equal to their own are fine.

    Technically, i’m agnostic. ;) I strongly believe that people can worship as they wish, and that there is room under this great big sky for everyone…even heathens like me. I just seriously take issue with those who attempt to ram religion down other people’s throats. I dont believe those who are religious are foolish. Sometimes misguided, depending on the person…and i think there’s ALOT of wiggle room in what people believe. But they are still free to worship it, whether i believe the same as they do, and whether i agree with it, or not.

    my 2 cents. and about the close of my day. if i dont post again, p3@C3 0u7

  18. #402241
    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:58 pm, atheling said:

    Atheists who can wrap their heads around the meaning of the First Amendment, who respect religious beliefs and treat the rights of religious persons as equal to their own are fine.

    I agree as well, but those types are few and far between. The majority, in my own experience, wish to shut down any opinion of a religious person (particularly Christians), and bar religious expression in the public sphere by individuals. Their deliberate distortion of the first amendment, that government cannot endorse a religion, has trampled on the right of religious expression of individuals. That is intolerable.

    Until I see atheists who condemn that kind of tyranny, my opinion of atheists remain low.

  19. #402245
    On August 11th, 2008 at 5:00 pm, Rob said:

    Atheists Christians who can wrap their heads around the meaning of the First Amendment, who respect religious beliefs free thinkers and treat the rights of religious persons free thinkers as equal to their own are fine.

    It goes both ways…

  20. #402247
    On August 11th, 2008 at 5:01 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    But they are still free to worship it, whether i believe the same as they do, and whether i agree with it, or not.

    But you’re a self-admitted agnostic, slightly different than atheist (just from my experience). Not to put words in your mouth, but most agnostics I run into are generally like you – live and let live and all that.

    Atheists – those who expressly deny the existence of a supreme being (God) – on the other hand try to ram non-religion down the throats of everyone else.

  21. #402258
    On August 11th, 2008 at 5:07 pm, least said:

    I just seriously take issue with those who attempt to ram religion down other people’s throats.

    In my experience, most folks who say something like this usually consider a statement like “I believe in Jesus Christ’s saving power” as an attempt to ram religion down other people’s throats.

    Heck, I used to say it all the time — most of the people I know used to say it all the time.

  22. #402262
    On August 11th, 2008 at 5:10 pm, Rob said:

    englishqueen said: Atheists… -on the other hand try to ram non-religion down the throats of everyone else.

    LOL.. I am laughing at this end…

    english queen said: Because murdering unborn children is never the solution to any problem.

    No really, what is your opinion you want to ram down my throat? lol

  23. #402264
    On August 11th, 2008 at 5:11 pm, atheling said:

    You’re an asshole, Rob… again.

  24. #402273
    On August 11th, 2008 at 5:18 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    It goes both ways…

    Love that moniker “free thinkers”…kind of like “Brights.” Richard Dawkins is so bright he can’t even tell when someone’s making fun of him in a video.

    “Free thinkers” and “brights” are so free to think and have an open mind their brains have fallen out and clearly you prove such “free thinkers” can’t tolerate anyone who doesn’t think exactly like them.
    And, to a certain extent, I suppose it does go both ways. But from the inception of Christianity, folks like you and Richard Dawkins have worked feverishly to eradicate religion (specifically and especially Christianity) from the world. With much more vehemence, violence, and anger than Christians (true Christians, mind you) use in spreading the faith. Evidence shows there are greater attacks – both politically and socially – against religious faith than there is against atheism. Christianity is now the counter-culture (which, of course, supports my position that liberals are all for the minority so long as they agree with it; otherwise the majority rules).

    Indeed, atheistic regimes in the 20th century caused 100 million deaths – most of them targeted at groups specifically because of their religious heritage. The Nazis in Germany, the communists in Russia and China, the nationalists in Mexico. For a century they systematically oppressed, jailed, and murdered people just because of their religious faith because religion is what gives people the fortitude and will to fight back against such tyranny. It also gives people unending hope and a sense of comfort, something which certain governments and secular humanists seem to hate. It provides a moral compass and a fixed set of values that can weather an ever-changing world – again, something governments, secular humanists, and liberals hate.

    Until folks such as yourself decide to accept with respect religious beliefs (Islam perhaps being the exception) without contempt, we have no choice but to fight for our right to free expression.

  25. #402278
    On August 11th, 2008 at 5:21 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    No really, what is your opinion you want to ram down my throat?

    This is a matter wholly separate from religion – as I and abstractmind pointed out. One need not be religious to be pro-life.

    It is not an opinion that it’s wrong to kill unborn children. It’s not an opinion that it’s wrong to kill the unborn children of folks on welfare or illegal immigrants simply because you see them as less human or less worthy than life.

    Again, your rabid love of destroying those you identify as inferior rears its ugly head.

    You forget there is a fixed set of right and wrong – and, in this case, my “opinion” is absolutely, 100% correct.

    YOU. ARE. WRONG.

    Deal with it.

    And take your meds.

  26. #402289
    On August 11th, 2008 at 5:29 pm, Salt said:

    On August 11th, 2008 at 4:18 pm, Rutherford420 said:

    baby whales are endangered, we have too many humans. Besides we can’t even provide housing, jobs, shelter, food, etc.. to the people that are already here, why is it so important we had more open handed orphans that you conservatives will continue to oppose providing aid to.

    That’s a non sequitur argument and untrue.

    Suggesting that those opposed to abortion “don’t like children” (open handed orphans) is an inductive fallacy.

    …we can’t even provide housing, jobs, shelter, food, etc..

    It is not the role of our government to provide these things.

  27. #402313
    On August 11th, 2008 at 5:38 pm, Rob said:

    You’re an asshole, Rob… again.

    Thank you for your support, please stay tuned for further updates.

    we have no choice but to fight for our right to free expression.

    uhhhhh, you already have that one…. Freedom of religion is a constitutionally guaranteed right.

    It provides a moral compass and a fixed set of values that can weather an ever-changing world

    I agree that many people are unable to weather life on their own and spill all over the place; they need a channel to focus the flow of their lives… a god of some type works for some, but unfortunately after their come to Jesus moment they have to knock on my door on the weekend to tell me about it.

    I have read that in AA they say that one needs a higher power to overcome weakness. I hope I never become that weak.

  28. #402341
    On August 11th, 2008 at 5:55 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    I’d rather be thought of being “weak” than be a genocidal eugenicist who advocates the wholesale slaughter of those you deem “undesirable”. Maniacal is what people like that in the 30’s were called. I see some things just don’t die with dictators.

  29. #402354
    On August 11th, 2008 at 5:58 pm, atheling said:

    On August 11th, 2008 at 5:55 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    I’d rather be thought of being “weak” than be a genocidal eugenicist who advocates the wholesale slaughter of those you deem “undesirable”. Maniacal is what people like that in the 30’s were called. I see some things just don’t die with dictators.

    Agreed. Hell, I’d trade creeps like Rob for some illegals who have more respect for human life.

  30. #402366
    On August 11th, 2008 at 6:05 pm, Rob said:

    I’d rather be thought of being “weak” than be a genocidal eugenicist who advocates the wholesale slaughter of those you deem “undesirable”. Maniacal is what people like that in the 30’s were called. I see some things just don’t die with dictators.

    I think I would be a fine dictator, in the style of one of the great Roman Caesars; benevolent to my people, ruthless to those that would oppose or foment unrest in the state.

    Plato postulated that a benevolent dictator or Philosopher King would be best for the state.

    But do not let your hearts be troubled. I would still allow you to maintain your temples to burn incense and make sacrifice to your gods.

    Much as the games in the coliseum kept the mob at bay, Marx believed that religion kept the people “opiated” and at peace.

  31. #402378
    On August 11th, 2008 at 6:09 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    I think I would be a fine dictator

    You and many other current dictators and wannabes. You’re in a special club of loons :D

  32. #402382
    On August 11th, 2008 at 6:13 pm, ICBMMan said:

    Rob, since this is my first ever comment, I’ll be brief. Since you are so intellectually superior from us “religious folk”, why don’t you enlighten us on why abortion should be a continued practice in a civilized society?

  33. #402390
    On August 11th, 2008 at 6:17 pm, Rob said:

    You’re in a special club of loons

    In the words of that great philosopher:

    I don’t care to belong to any club that will have me as a member.” —Grouch Marx

  34. #402395
    On August 11th, 2008 at 6:20 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    On August 11th, 2008 at 6:13 pm, ICBMMan said:
    Rob, since this is my first ever comment, I’ll be brief. Since you are so intellectually superior from us “religious folk”, why don’t you enlighten us on why abortion should be a continued practice in a civilized society?

    You must have missed the part where he is an Eugenicist and not only wants abortion to kill potential people who might end up on welfare but wants to actively “spay” people and straight up murder whole ethnic groups. Heh. And he wants to be the dictator of a Roman style emperor, so I think his definition of “civilized society” and the rest of sane American’s definition are wildly different. Just a guess.

  35. #402423
    On August 11th, 2008 at 6:37 pm, aikidoka said:

    I haven’t waded through all the comments yet, but I’m willing to bet someone thinks being prolife is an entirely religious view.

    Too bad they’re wrong.

  36. #402424
    On August 11th, 2008 at 6:38 pm, pclevenger said:

    Arguing with a fool is foolish.

  37. #402428
    On August 11th, 2008 at 6:39 pm, Rob said:

    Rob, since this is my first ever comment, I’ll be brief. Since you are so intellectually superior from us “religious folk”, why don’t you enlighten us on why abortion should be a continued practice in a civilized society?

    Civilized” is a fantasy. There is no civilized. There are just laws that scare sane people into behaving, while we keep building prisons to hold those who don’t.

    If you think we are civilized, then let us dissolve the police departments. Should we do that, the civilized would be the slaves of the uncivilized within a year.

    We are all monkeys sitting in trees throwing feces at each other. We have just built legal walls to keep the poop at a manageable level.

    All civilizations fall apart; the Roman Empire made it about a thousand years… which is pretty good, but then it disappeared because they couldn’t control their borders.

    Abortion, argue it if you will, but the value of life is transitory. Wait a few hundred years and we may be sacrificing infants in the public square like the VERY religious Mayans.

  38. #402431
    On August 11th, 2008 at 6:42 pm, rich8450 said:

    Just want to say I’m glad to be signed up…I’m a big fan Michelle…

  39. #402436
    On August 11th, 2008 at 6:44 pm, alaskangrizzly said:

    On August 11th, 2008 at 6:38 pm, pclevenger said:
    Arguing with a fool is foolish.

    True, but at least I have a new thread to link whenever someone needs a case study in insanity :D

  40. #402443
    On August 11th, 2008 at 6:49 pm, atheling said:

    You got that right, alaskangrizzly.

  41. #402444
    On August 11th, 2008 at 6:50 pm, Rob said:

    Insane in the membrane

    … lol

  42. #402446
    On August 11th, 2008 at 6:51 pm, dakine said:

    Rob, I took some shots at you and you post some pretty over the line stuff IMHO, but those last two comments got my attention. You’ve officially become “interesting”. Not really sure what you’re deal is though, but I’ll stay tuned.

  43. #402485
    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:08 pm, Rob said:

    dakine, thank you for the backhanded compliment.

    -Seriously, I believe about half of what I say.
    -I say what I say to see it and think about it.
    -I say what I say to get reaction which is data.
    -My opinions often transmogrify.
    -It is fun and interesting to poke at the stifled opinions of the transfixed and limited.

    In the words of Cyrano de Bergerac:

    “Let us say that it is my pleasure to displease. I love Hatred. Imagine how it feels to face the volley of a thousand angry eyes ~ The bile of envy and the froth of fear spattering little drops about me.”

  44. #402490
    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:09 pm, Me said:

    This is just one more reason why Obama wouldn’t be a good president.

  45. #402497
    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:11 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    As if I needed another reason not to vote for Obama.

    I was born 2 months premature. Would Obama have let me die? Or was I only worth living because my parents wanted me?

    Senator, don’t bother batting clean up. You got busted.

  46. #402498
    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:11 pm, shards said:

    Leaving babies who have survived late term abortion to die…wondering how there are not indictments for murder–

    Wondering what moral compass Obama is using in voting against legislation to protect these very, very, young people.

  47. #402506
    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:14 pm, BeLinda said:

    baby whales are endangered, we have too many humans. Besides we can’t even provide housing, jobs, shelter, food, etc.. to the people that are already here, why is it so important we had more open handed orphans that you conservatives will continue to oppose providing aid to.

    Some people being homeless, without food, jobs, ect., have nothing to do with overpopulation and mostly to do with choices made by the people affected. You can’t really compare and animal to a human life, and this is coming from someone who supports saving endangered animals.

    My belief is that every life should be born for a reason. So, Rutherford420, think of it this way, what if the next child aborted was the person that would have stopped the extinction of whales or any other animal species.

  48. #402514
    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:17 pm, atheling said:

    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:08 pm, Rob said:

    -Seriously, I believe about half of what I say.
    -I say what I say to see it and think about it.
    -I say what I say to get reaction which is data.
    -My opinions often transmogrify.
    -It is fun and interesting to poke at the stifled opinions of the transfixed and limited.

    Oh, so not only are you an asshole, but you’re an adolescent one at that.

    Grow up. Take your medication.

  49. #402521
    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:22 pm, Salt said:

    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:17 pm, atheling said:

    Grow up. Take your medication.

    atheling, please just ignore him. It’s the attention he seeks.

    He has clearly defined himself as a intellectually dishonest sockpuppet who says outrageous things just to see how people respond.

  50. #402527
    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:23 pm, Rob said:

    baby whales are endangered

    Take into consideration:

    1) Liberals claim that the earth is in danger and they want to save the planet.

    2) Liberals want us to use renewable, natural sources of energy.

    3) Were not Whales that original and most natural source of renewable oil?

    Therefore, should we not start whaling again for this renewable resource?

    Blubber for all!

  51. #402531
    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:25 pm, Rob said:

    Oh, so not only are you an asshole

    You seem to have a limited vocabulary and a rather gutter style of dialogue… but once again, thank you for your support.

  52. #402551
    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:35 pm, atheling said:

    If the word fits…

  53. #402559
    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:40 pm, Rob said:

    atheling, I would really rather you would not think of fitting that word with me.

    Homie don’t swing that way…

  54. #402563
    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:42 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On August 11th, 2008 at 5:00 pm, Rob said:
    Atheists Christians who can wrap their heads around the meaning of the First Amendment, who respect religious beliefs free thinkers and treat the rights of religious persons free thinkers as equal to their own are fine.

    It goes both ways…

    WOW. So, if one believes in Christ, he/she has no ability to think own his/her own.

    Oh, Rob. What shall I have for dinner? I just can’t or am too stoopid to decide. I neeeeeeeeed you Rob. What have I done all of these years without you?

    I adopted a girl instead of letting her be aborted. Rob, I sure hope I did the right thing. Was that okay?

    UGH. And I thought lgm was bad.

  55. #402571
    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:45 pm, Rob said:

    box of soap.. I think you missed the point.. I simply changed the wording around from an earlier post.. HELLO.. figure how this thing works before you shout out like a demanding child..

    Let me try it this way…

    I…….
    changed…….
    the……
    words…….
    around…….

  56. #402575
    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:46 pm, FilmLadd said:

    Rob said:

    You seem to have a limited vocabulary and a rather gutter style of dialogue… but once again, thank you for your support.

    The thing that bothers me about my fellow atheists who are on the left side of the aisle is their utter contempt and snottiness for their fellow humans.

    Dawkins, Hitchens, etc. all act as if they’ve just come out of the desert with an astounding revelation that no one has ever considered before. Everyone else is a fool for not falling on their knees and “worshiping” them…

    They come across as 5-year old children who’ve just learned how to spell “triskadeckaphobia” and now want to lord it over the monkeys, like Charles Foster Kane.

  57. #402577
    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:46 pm, aikidoka said:

    On August 11th, 2008 at 6:39 pm, Rob said:

    “Civilized” is a fantasy. There is no civilized. There are just laws that scare sane people into behaving, while we keep building prisons to hold those who don’t.

    If you think we are civilized, then let us dissolve the police departments. Should we do that, the civilized would be the slaves of the uncivilized within a year.

    We are all monkeys sitting in trees throwing feces at each other. We have just built legal walls to keep the poop at a manageable level.

    All civilizations fall apart; the Roman Empire made it about a thousand years… which is pretty good, but then it disappeared because they couldn’t control their borders.

    Abortion, argue it if you will, but the value of life is transitory. Wait a few hundred years and we may be sacrificing infants in the public square like the VERY religious Mayans.

    So because death cannot be avoided we should just kill whenever we want?

  58. #402633
    On August 11th, 2008 at 8:16 pm, Rob said:

    So because death cannot be avoided we should just kill whenever we want?

    Read the novel “Alive” and you will see a true story of loving cannibalism as a son eats his mother to survive.

    Or maybe the true story of the American Donner Party where a grown man killed and ate a baby to survive.

    Or read “In the Heart of the Sea” , the true story of the tragedy of the whaleship “Essex” and see the story of how American whaling sailors expected to and accepted being killed and eaten when in becalmed seas so that the rest of the crew could survive. (This is an AMAZING tale upon which Hermen Melville based the novel “Moby Dick“… highly recommended by me)

    aikidoka, no offense, but your question is ignorant. We kill whenever we want when it becomes necessary… in the words of James Fenimore Cooper’s Natty Bumppo…”Tis but nature.”

    Human “depravity” is at bay due to our laws and land of plenty, and we live in the fantasy of safety… but with Obama or McAmnesty at the helm of our becalmed ship, I am afraid… I am very afraid.

  59. #402643
    On August 11th, 2008 at 8:22 pm, nero said:

    I am a hardcore conservative, but am iffy on abortion. Have you been to a wal-mart on a weekend lately? Ok now imagine how many more kids would be there if abortion was illegal? How much more drained would our welfare programs be with more babies?

  60. #402660
    On August 11th, 2008 at 8:30 pm, RTLM said:

    Nero,

    Kids are an inconvenience for you at walmart, eh? Look at Europe – they have a near zero birth rate and their welfare state is going broke. I think you’re all wrong here.

    Think in terms of population growth/survival.

  61. #402662
    On August 11th, 2008 at 8:32 pm, Rob said:

    Have you been to a wal-mart on a weekend lately

    In southern CA? lol… it is like a sojourn to a third world nation.

    (Thank you Ms Malkin for a playground to explore our crazy thoughts and foolish ideas)

  62. #402666
    On August 11th, 2008 at 8:35 pm, NC BLUE said:

    Hello Michelle and thanks for the chance to join. I live in Mooresville NC, home of the silk–or is that slick pony. It is still God’s country!!!

  63. #402684
    On August 11th, 2008 at 8:46 pm, Rob said:

    I think you’re all wrong here.

    Think in terms of population growth/survival.

    Yes, if you are trying to help Mexico survive…

    Ethnic Breakdown-Los Angeles

    10% African-American
    31% Caucasian
    45% Latino/Hispanic
    12% Asian-American
    <1% Native American
    2% Other

  64. #402692
    On August 11th, 2008 at 8:50 pm, zorro said:

    ABC NEWS: Are Democrats Now Pro-Life? As Convention Draws Near, New Talk of a Pro-Life Presence

    And so the 2-1/2 month masquerade party begins. Imagine that, democraps pretending to be pro-life, trying to deceive the people one more time. Ha, Dave Letterman couldn’t write stuff that funny.

  65. #402699
    On August 11th, 2008 at 8:57 pm, purplepeep said:

    nero said:
    I am a hardcore conservative, but am iffy on abortion. Have you been to a wal-mart on a weekend lately? Ok now imagine how many more kids would be there if abortion was illegal? How much more drained would our welfare programs be with more babies?

    Those are law violation – e.g. illegal immigration – and government giveaway issues, Nero, rather than abortion issues.

  66. #402705
    On August 11th, 2008 at 9:05 pm, Baxter Greene said:

    What is it with democrats and their obsession with killing innocent children?

    These are the same people who are constantly protesting war and all the innocents killed,calling our Soldiers “baby killers,murderer’s,and child predators”,while they hand out their
    abortion literature that promotes the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children a year.

    I can’t wait to see Obama flip on this like he has done on NSA wiretapping,gun rights,NAFTA,drilling for oil,keeping Soldiers in Iraq based on “conditions on the ground”,and campaign finance.

    If you want to find the position of “Mr. Hope and Change”,just look for what the polls are saying and where the money is at.

  67. #402716
    On August 11th, 2008 at 9:12 pm, Marauder said:

    Back in Catholic high school, we had a substitute teacher in Religion class who was telling us how she was a sidewalk conselor outside abortion clinics, and how there were some extreme pro-choice people who thought parents should be allowed to kill their children after the children were already born. I was (and am) pro-life, but I thought she was nuts. No one could be that horrible, could they? No one could be that dumb that they wouldn’t realize that hello, they’re talking about murder.

    Well, thanks for proving me wrong, Obama. Sometimes I don’t know how I maintain faith in humanity.

  68. #402722
    On August 11th, 2008 at 9:19 pm, K2 said:

    So, the Dems are going to say and do whatever they can to convince people to vote for the ‘promised one’. What else is new…..take a stance on a position and then change it to get the vote………. No surprise here. Their candidate is still a person whom I cannot support.

  69. #402741
    On August 11th, 2008 at 9:28 pm, Morgan said:

    I hope those conservatives who won’t vote for McCain because of illegal immigration consider this: If you consider yourself pro-life and McCain doesn’t win, we’ll get instead a strong pro-abortion President. Is that what you want?

  70. #402790
    On August 11th, 2008 at 10:14 pm, Noble Eagle said:

    Since Islam forbids abortion (except when the life of the mother is at stake), I guess it’s safe to say that there’s no way Obama is a “stealth Muslim” candidate. Apparently, he’s just a none-too-stealthy stealth liberal candidate. Which doesn’t seem like much of an improvement.

  71. #402793
    On August 11th, 2008 at 10:16 pm, ICBMMan said:

    “Civilized” is a fantasy. There is no civilized. There are just laws that scare sane people into behaving, while we keep building prisons to hold those who don’t…

    …We are all monkeys sitting in trees throwing feces at each other. We have just built legal walls to keep the poop at a manageable level.

    That’s funny. So I guess we shouldn’t have had the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, tha Magna Carta, the Bible, the Ten Commandments…the wheel. Those are all meaningless and just driven by fear? Tell you what Rob, if you feel that all society consists of is technologically advanced monkeys throwing feces at each other, I recommend that you get back to our origins and live with those primates. Don’t worry about bringing toilet paper.

    If you think we are civilized, then let us dissolve the police departments. Should we do that, the civilized would be the slaves of the uncivilized within a year.

    All the more reason for people to have the right to firearms. Let me guess, you don’t think the 2nd Amendment is right, either?

    Abortion, argue it if you will, but the value of life is transitory. Wait a few hundred years and we may be sacrificing infants in the public square like the VERY religious Mayans.

    Wow. Talk about delusional and pessimistic.

    Rob, you’ve confirmed all of my pre-conceived notions about you and your intellect. I find your state of mind sad and pathetic. I pray that you will find sanity someday.

  72. #402804
    On August 11th, 2008 at 10:28 pm, Bill Grant said:

    On August 11th, 2008 at 8:22 pm, nero said:

    I am a hardcore conservative, but am iffy on abortion

    What Obama is advocating isn’t abortion by any of the accepted definitions. It is just plain baby killing.

    If the baby is born alive it is too late to abort it. If it isn’t I know a few adults that I would like to abort in even though they are in about their 175th trimester.

  73. #402812
    On August 11th, 2008 at 10:37 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Rob is atheism taken to its logical conclusion: where the only rule is don’t get caught.

    So the Mayans were religious. Big deal. So are the jihadists from the Middle East who want to blow us all to hell. But hey – if the value of life is “transitory” then why the hell do you bitch about immigration? Just go and kill them all. Let’s get rid of all homicide laws and let’s return to a dog-eat-dog world, right?

    Give me a break.

  74. #402813
    On August 11th, 2008 at 10:39 pm, Jamson64 said:

    Marauder..yes people can be that extreme. It should be of no surprise.

  75. #402823
    On August 11th, 2008 at 10:48 pm, aikidoka said:

    On August 11th, 2008 at 8:16 pm, Rob said:

    Read the novel “Alive” and you will see a true story of loving cannibalism as a son eats his mother to survive.

    Or maybe the true story of the American Donner Party where a grown man killed and ate a baby to survive.

    Or read “In the Heart of the Sea” , the true story of the tragedy of the whaleship “Essex” and see the story of how American whaling sailors expected to and accepted being killed and eaten when in becalmed seas so that the rest of the crew could survive. (This is an AMAZING tale upon which Hermen Melville based the novel “Moby Dick“… highly recommended by me)

    aikidoka, no offense, but your question is ignorant. We kill whenever we want when it becomes necessary… in the words of James Fenimore Cooper’s Natty Bumppo…”Tis but nature.”

    Human “depravity” is at bay due to our laws and land of plenty, and we live in the fantasy of safety… but with Obama or McAmnesty at the helm of our becalmed ship, I am afraid… I am very afraid.

    Rob,

    Don’t be throwing the word ignorant around when you all you did was dodge my question. You were originally asked to justify abortion today. All you did was say basically that because we die, we shouldn’t be bothered by killing infants or those still in the womb.

    Just because you put more words around it than that and then deflect with more of the same and with non-sequitors, only inidicates your ignorance and/or intellectual dishonesty.

    It simply doesn not logically follow that because people have had to resort to extreme measures in order to live, it is therefore permissible to kill because someone refuses to be responsible or doesn’t care for the inconvenience of a child at that moment.

    You’re nearly the wordiest troll I’ve yet seen. Unfortunately, someone like that would take that as a compliment.

  76. #402832
    On August 11th, 2008 at 10:54 pm, ManicMonkeyMojo said:

    What is to be said in favor of killing a child outside the womb? Nothing. The position Mr Obama has taken on this issue is disgusting.

  77. #402841
    On August 11th, 2008 at 11:12 pm, Karmi said:

    Obama is a disaster waiting to get elected. Hard to believe that he has made it this far…

  78. #402845
    On August 11th, 2008 at 11:20 pm, Marine_NCO said:

    Hi all,
    My first post here.
    Just wanted to share the joy of my new great grandson, Logan. He was born at just a tad over 2 lbs. a bit premature considering he was BORN IN THE 2ND TRIMESTER.
    He has doubled his weight and is doing fine, not in an incubator now and we are so proud to have this fine young man in our family.

  79. #402847
    On August 11th, 2008 at 11:23 pm, Morgan said:

    Welcome aboard, Marine_NCO, and congratulations on the birth of your great-grandson. I am glad to hear he is doing fine.

  80. #402862
    On August 11th, 2008 at 11:35 pm, brutus1964 said:

    Finally I can comment. I feel like I am somebody now.

  81. #402887
    On August 11th, 2008 at 11:52 pm, jangar said:

    “ABC NEWS: Are Democrats Now Pro-Life? As Convention Draws Near, New Talk of a Pro-Life Presence…”

    …when pigs fly.

  82. #402899
    On August 12th, 2008 at 12:19 am, cwbois said:

    Yah their pro-life as long as you have made it to voting age and you register as a democrat

  83. #402902
    On August 12th, 2008 at 12:24 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Welcome, Marine_NCO!

    It warms my heart to learn of stories such as yours. All the best to you and your grandson!

    30

  84. #402915
    On August 12th, 2008 at 12:45 am, ChicagoRobb said:

    On August 11th, 2008 at 7:11 pm, CO2 Producer said:
    As if I needed another reason not to vote for Obama.

    I was born 2 months premature. Would Obama have let me die? Or was I only worth living because my parents wanted me?

    Senator, don’t bother batting clean up. You got busted.

    Similar situation for me. Born very premature, illegitimate, but adopted by two awesome people.
    This view of B. Hussein makes me very scared of him. Even Bill Clinton said ” abortion should be legal,but rare”. It shows a coldness that should give one pause to think.
    Everyone talks about Big Oil, Big Pharma, etc. What about Big Abortion? Abortion is a money maker for its providers. In, Out, no follow up, and if your lucky, “frequent fliers”. The Left is so “in the bag” for the Abortion industry, it’s funny. It gives them license to be as promiscuous as they want to be without the “curse” of a child.

  85. #402924
    On August 12th, 2008 at 12:56 am, RetFireman said:

    A Golden Calf lie? I am shocked…SHOCKED I tell you. Why, next you are going to tell me there are doubts concerning the legitimacy of the Tooth Fairy.

    I just find it so hard to believe. Back to watching the realistic reporting of the Olympics for me. At least I know I can get the truth from the NBC guys.

  86. #402928
    On August 12th, 2008 at 1:11 am, laylasmom said:

    Two thoughts on this photo:

    First: He looks very uncomfortable kissing that baby. Guess he doesn’t want any of that white rubbing off on him.

    Second: The woman to the right, who I am assumming is the childs mother is looking at Obama as if she is some giddy schoolgirl. She probably won’t wash the kids forehead for a week.

    Kind of sickening.

  87. #402931
    On August 12th, 2008 at 1:22 am, ErinF said:

    Too bad we can’t find some way to abort liberalism/socialism. You know, just suck it out of America and discard it in outer space somewhere.

  88. #402943
    On August 12th, 2008 at 2:10 am, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    Rusty

    Yeah, damn you scientists and the supermajority of Americans who have common sense! You just don’t get it!

    Why don’t you save your breath and start protesting IUDs.

    Being a scientists doesn’t mean that you have common sense nor does being an American, and yes, fetuses can feel pain, Rusty.

    The issue is that Barack Obama supports murder and so do you.

  89. #402944
    On August 12th, 2008 at 2:20 am, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    LGM

    Correct translation: conservative blogs and magazines are wrong more than they’re right. If they have a devastating revelation about Obama, they probably are wrong. That’s the history. As Rusty showed, that’s the present case as well.

    The only reason there are “devastating revelations” about Barack Obama are because the MSM gives him more positive coverage than any other candidate, covers up his radical agenda, fawns over his race, height and age, and conservative commentators end up doing the job for journalists.

    Rusty has failed to demonstrate any accurate knowledge on this thread and seems only to quote left-wing talking points that are incorrect.

    Also, I hope for the sake of the integrity of your reply, that you read other conservative writings besides Mrs. Malkin and see-dubya, because if you don’t your assessment about conservative literature is unfounded.

  90. #402948
    On August 12th, 2008 at 2:32 am, purplepeep said:

    BrianNY said:
    Rusty, for my sake as well as lgm’s, please cite the additional grounds (beyond the federal language insertion that Obama asked for and received in 2003)that Obama felt were necessary to consider in blocking a piece of legislation (similarly passed by a 98-0 margin in the US Senate) that wanted to protect the survivors of failed abortions from the practice of infanticide.

    ::: crickets chirping :::

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