Taking on the Left’s speech-chillers
The ACLU is outraged about the new move to intimidate political donors by targeting them with “warning” letters.
Not.
Just testing to see if you’re paying attention.
No, it’s Judicial Watch that’s on the case of the Accountable America speech-chilling campaign. Glad someone’s holding them accountable:
Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it is launching an investigation into a nationwide effort by a liberal activist group to intimidate supporters of Republican and conservative causes. According the August 8 edition of The New York Times, Accountable America, a liberal group, plans to send a letter “to confront donors to conservative groups, hoping to create a chilling effect that will dry up contributions…The warning letter is intended as a first step, alerting donors who might be considering giving to right-wing groups to a variety of potential dangers, including legal trouble, public exposure and watchdog groups digging through their lives.
The group is also hoping to be able to respond if an outside conservative group broadcasts a television advertisement attacking Senator Barack Obama, or another Democratic candidate, by running commercials exposing the donors behind the advertisements.”
Attempts to intimidate individuals from participating in the presidential campaign can be a violation of federal law. A key federal civil rights law (42 U.S.C. § 1985(3)), popularly known as the Ku Klux Klan Act, may be applicable if “two or more persons conspire to prevent by force, intimidation, or threat, any citizen who is lawfully entitled to vote, from giving his support or advocacy in a legal manner, toward or in favor of the election of any lawfully qualified person as an elector for President or Vice President, or as a Member of Congress of the United States; or to injure any citizen in person or property on account of such support or advocacy.”
“Threats and intimidation have no place in our democratic elections and are a violation of the law. This new front group, Accountable America, seems to have crossed a legal line,” stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.
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Threats and intimidation have no place in our democratic elections and are a violation of the law. This new front group, Accountable America, seems to have crossed a legal line,” stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.
Uh oh! I don’t think lgm will like the Judicial Watch is calling out his heroes at Accountable America for their tactics.
I wonder how Accountable America feels about being held accountable??? These liberal dimwits will try to say they are the ones being harassed - what a joke.
I surfed over to AA (funny that they have those initials), 2 comments.
They are lighting up the internet with their web site.
Give them a month then:
Buh-bye!
Good news. Hope more to come. I hope Judicial Watch is looking into the money coming into bho election from other countries.
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I would much rather see the demise of ACORN, but this is on target also.
Uh oh, lgm’s brownshirt buddies are about to face legal action for breaking the law.
Free speech for me, but not for thee. Always gets me how these (self-censored) can say they advocate free speech, but only if you agree with them.
aclu (I refuse to capitolize their name) - Files lawsuits when the IRS wants to send letters when false/duplicate SSN are being blatantly being used. (In other words they are “Selective” on what laws we should enforce)
But are OK with rabid outright intimidation directed toward stopping the people’s “CONSTITUTIONAL” rights to support the cause of their choosing.
I hope they really DO something about this. It’s very easy to find out who donors are; just google.
Scary, scary stuff.
Hear that Fatboy?
It is very telling that not a single democrat has spoken out against there tactics. I can’t remember a time in history when the left was so willing to show there true fascist nature. It is getting scary.
Conservatives should milk this for all they can. Cry Foul, and scream it from the rooftops. You cannot silence us with threats or intimidation.
my .02 cents
“there” should be “these”
So the same bunch that likes to shout down those with whom they disagree is now trying to silence their opponents through intimidation.
With all the other possible legal penalties to which they have exposed themselves, I have 4 letters for you: RICO. I hope they like doing Federal time.
ECS
I am surprised that the main stream media isn’t covering this news. It wasn’t too long ago that the media was in an uproar about a few Republicans jamming phone lines in a town.
Follow the money. Who is behind this group? Obama, Clinton, Soros, or the under appreciated Queen of the Democrats Pelosi.
What are the chances of the MSM reporting that a democrat front group is being investigated for violation of The Ku Klux Klan Act?
Good luck Judicial Watch. Start digging into aa like they were threatening to do to Conservatives.
Barry F., the pictures of me as a troll were maybe funny or maybe annoying. But the picture of me as a Nazi is beyond civilized discussion. Please remove it. Thanks.
— lgm
The inaction by aclu tells you everything you need to know about this group of facsits. Force them out of business.
Can hear above his own gluttony? I imagine it gets quite loud when he feeds.
…as I posted in the other thread on this…
I don’t know, professor. You were quite the staunch defender of Accountable America in the the other thread on them that inspired Blind_Mule to do some of his magic for that pic.
Has Obama made a comment regarding this attempt at election intimidation?
Oh, that’s right, he’s on vacation.
Let’s try this again, Nancy? Harry? Hill? anyone? Oh wait, they’re all on vacation too.
Well maybe we can get a comment from one (or more) of them in Denver.
That’s Funny,
don’t beat up to bad but, (the person that shall not be named) doesnt deserve that one, Nazi is a tad over the top IMHO.
LGM - if the shoe fits…
OT:
new poster test for seedubya.
Hopefully Judicial watch can find a federal judge who will uphold the law.
Don’t you mean, if the jackboot fits…
Booyah, I love when the lines are crossed by the losers. Let’s just hope there’s a court willing to hear and apply the law fully in this case.
lgm,I agree,if you don’t want the pic it should go.It’s things like that that have made you famous on this site.Lighten up,it’s all in jest.Don’t be such a lib.All on this site would fight and die for your rights even if we sometimes disagree with your views.
We should contribute. All of us should send them a check for .01 via snail mail and ask them to mail us a receipt.
I’m with ajmontana #26 on this one.
lgm has politely requested the pic be taken down. It would be nice to respect that wish.
Without the ability to edit a prior post, vicki, that would be a little hard to do.
They’ll go the way of the other liberal AA (Air America). Not very creative, that bunch… put America in the title, people are sure to like us.
I am calling bullchips on this one. lgm is insulted. lgm has insulted Michelle many times on this blog and has received a pass every time.
If lgm gets his feelings hurt, he should consider removing the plank from his own eye first - PERIOD!
Then, lgm can complain.
Michelle can help you by removing the post.
OK, soap, I agree that lgm has crossed the line many times, but aren’t we above responding in kind, or applauding others who do?
Vckisoup,
Why should she. Michelle has to put up with his constant insults all of the time. She has given lgm more leeway than he ever deserved.
A little of lgm’s own medicine might just be what The Idiot deserves. Then, maybe, he will learn to have some respect.
I removed the link to the photoshop. I’d rather we keep this on topic, and avoid the ad hominems.
From my year long observations.
I have been reading Michelle Malkin blog site for quite a while now and she has finally opened up registration. Yea! Personally, I have never agreed with any of lgm’s post, but he has been a good sport in taking a lot of flack and photo shopped pictures all in good humor.
Sometimes our humor crosses the line. We are supposed to learn this as kids and if we do cross the line, we are supposed to apologize and try to rectify the mistake. Otherwise, we might as well become liberals, permanent infantile feelings with no logic or thinking ability.
Nah. I wasn’t implying that I would like to have the post removed. I was just pointing out that editing isn’t an option.
He, lgm, pushes the emvelope, referring to conservatives as “lowlifes” and then cries foul, when it suits him. I think BM’s pic is a good jab at lgm
s defense of Accountable America and their tactics. If a conservative group had even thought about doing something like Accountable America, we would have heard shrieks of Facism.
see-dubya said (#42):
Thanks, and thanks for hosting this site.
Judicial Watch
ACLJ (formerly CASE)
Thomas More Law……..
I gave $$$ when each were “starting” up –Each would appreciate our $$$$ support today
hint-hint-hint
Uh, huh. While you’re at it, lgm, note the part about “keep…on topic.” That would do a world of good on the threads.
Send me one. Please, send me one.
AA = Arrogant A_Hats …
And mental laziness explains much of it.
People who don’t want to debate things — because they’re not prepared to follow the arguments to their logical outcomes — will ultimately resort to increasingly ham-fisted efforts to make sure the debate never gets started.
A hallmark of the left is its fascination with collectivism. Lefties gain a sense of individual validation not by the skull-sweat needed to decide on their own what to believe, but rather by conforming to what their peer-group has decided to believe.
It’s easier to parrot than to think.
It follows that anyone who threatens the group consensus becomes tantamount to an existential threat. A member of the peer-group who goes off-message risks excommunication; an outsider who challenges the group’s orthodoxy becomes anathema.
“Nothing enrages the champions of ‘diversity’ so much as an opinion diverse from their own.”
For the mentally lazy, it’s easier to try to muzzle “dissent” than to address its arguments. Which is ironic, because if the left would invest the energy it expends stifling “incorrect” thinking into making better-reasoned arguments instead, they wouldn’t need to resort to the plantation mentality and pseudo-intellectual thuggery that are their debate signatures.
Watching the left try to win political arguments by intimidating if not criminalizing their opponents reminds me of a scientific experiment: A group of monkeys was kept together in an enclosure. In the center of the enclosure was a pile of large rocks, over which was hung some fruit. Whenever one monkey began to climb the rock pile to get at the fruit, the entire enclosure would be subjected to a spray of ice-cold water.
It didn’t take long for the monkeys to realize that any of their number who tried to climb the rocks had to be forcibly stopped. And so whenever that began to happen, the whole group would set upon the offender.
Next, the folks conducting the experiment began to change the circumstances. First, they stopped the cold-water treatment. Second, they began to replace the monkeys from the original group one at a time with new monkeys who hadn’t experienced the “water treatment” before.
Ultimately all of the original monkeys were swapped out, but the group’s behavior remained unchanged: any time one monkey would begin to try to climb the rocks, the whole group would react violently to stop it.
And they didn’t even know why they were doing it.
Welcome to the mindset of today’s American Left.
Not that we could ever hope to tell you what to do but, I pray you remember what you did for lgm the next time he insults Michelle (or takes a thread off topic).
Thanks
ACLU = Anti Civil Liberties Union?
Couldn’t be, could it?
What does “staying on topic” mean? If you criticize a Democrat and not a Republican for the same action (cheating on a sick spouse), it’s on topic to point that out. You publish contact information (address and personal phone number) of people whose opinions you disagree with, but call a letter to a political lowlife warning him not to break the law “intimidation”.
(By “lowlife” I mean the likes of the swiftboaters: pretend to be a grassroots organization when the “organization” consists of a few political hitmen hired by one rich conservative, recruit people to lie about a military record, etc.)
Not that any of your blind liberal garbage even deserves a response but this one was most hilarious. If it was all such a great lie, why not has Kerry released his unaltered and full military records for the public to view? Why has no one even tried to collect the reward proving the Swiftboat veterans wrong?
The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the - Web Reconnaissance for 08/11/2008 A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day…so check back often.
I know you are trying to say something but it just sounds like nails on a chalkboard or something.
OK, lgm, I’m all done *defending your honor*. This comparison is ridiculous.
soap, I’m squarely back in your corner.
Forgive me for my earlier lapse in judgment?
So Chris Dodd should be forced to retire to the sidelines for making statements about Robert Byrd that were analogous to those made by Trent Lott re: Strom Thurmond? When will that happen?
Ah, so Matzzie is a lowlife! Finally we agree on something! As for the Swifties, all Kerry had to do was release his full medical/military record, unexpunged, to the public to prove them wrong.
He never did, thus tacitly acknowledging that it was he, John Kerry, that was the liar. And for you to call that heroic group of men liars, without a shred of proof (see above) is as distasteful as a picture of you as a Nazi. More so to me.
There is the rub: is there any evidence that this “group” consists of anyone but Matzzie, regardless of how much physical space he occupies? All we have is a proxied website and a bunch of letters.
Civil rights law aside, this sounds, at the very least, like extortion or blackmail to me: “Pay us, or we’ll publicize your past indiscretions”?
It’s a wonder the letter isn’t constructed out of magazine and newspaper clippings.
George Soros comes to mind. Do you equally condemn his “organizations”?
The Swiftboat Vets were war hero’s. Now, you have insulted them.
You are lgm so, I suppose you still get your pass.
Michelle: insulted - pass. CHECK
Christians: insulted - pass. CHECK
Was heroes: insulted - pass. CHECK
lgm: insulted - coddled. CHECK
If lgm can insist comments be deleted, I vote comment #53 be deleted. It is in very poor taste to insult war heroes.
Soap - I’ve done everything I can to keep from telling lgm where he can goo, and what he can do(with the pointy ends down, so it doesn’t come out)because I have to watch my blood pressure. I can assure you, if I were to ever meet him face to face, I’d do something I might later regret, but which would give me untold satisfaction at the moment.
Because of the lies told by John F’n Kerry, I have friends whose names are on the wall.
‘Nuff said.
And here i was thinking I was light on material for today.
Lets break this down, and i’ll go slow
1. “staying on topic” is self-explanatory. i dont think we need to cover this, but..yeah.
2. That’s a problem. We DO level those criticisms against our own. You have YET to actually speak out about those in your own party? If you’ve spent -any- time looking at this site, you’ve seen how we repeatedly call down those in our own party who do things that are wrong. You take it off topic by trying to draw the fire away from your own party errors and point to republicans. Thats’ -not- staying on topic. When you come back on a topic involving one of your own, and denounce them (that means calling their actions WRONG) and not trying to equivocate the argument, THEN you’ll see where we’re coming from on the matter.
Apples and oranges. How many times have numbers or addresses been published that were not on public record, searchable by internet sources or published? I would believe that when our lovely hostess had her information splashed all over the place and she had to relocate her whole family as as result because of actions *liberals* took…does that not strike you as WRONG? But calling these letters intimidating is correct, but nothing on the same accord. I don’t see people stalking these folks, and sending them death threats. I dont see their home addresses, personal phone numbers, personal email addresses, or where their children go to school anywhere here. this is being labeled as intimidating because thats what it is…its cohersion based on party affiliations.
But there’s a right way to do things. Notice that its a group of people (Judicial Watch) going about this the right way. Their fighting fire with fire (or paperwork with paperwork).
These examples don’t equate, and I think you know that, and should be smart enough to see it…even if i have to have the bad manners to point it out and call you on it.
Have you ever once criticized a liberal group (here) for violating 501(c) rules?
What most of us here think is interesting is how many liberal groups have done this with hardly a peep about accountability.
Accountable America is listed as a 501(c)(4) group, but they addressed their “non-partisan” clearly to Republican Supporter. Why not to both sides if they are truly non-partisan?
Goldberg’s book, Liberal Fascism, said it well. Liberals see themselves as so morally superior than no action supporting their views can be considered immoral. The liberal who keys your car for sporting a conservative bumper sticker has the exact same mindset as the thugs at Accountable America. It is immoral not to agree with them, so they have a moral license to punish you however they see fit.
Just another group to intimadate conservatives. Liberal thugs see themselves superior to the lowly masses of the people who populate this country. They must show us the way to true nanny state where the individual has no rights.
LGM
You are in the pay of George Soros..
aren’t you..
LGM logic: George Soros is an acceptable lowlife because he’s a liberal.
Not quite. George Soros is more than acceptable, and there’s no way in lgm’s mind that such an upstanding individual, upholder of Truth, Justice, and the American Way as George Soros could ever be considered a lowlife!
/sarc
DaveC said (#68):
I wish!
Actually, I did take money, travel reimbursement I think, from the Soros Foundation maybe ten years ago. It would have been about $200. Soros donated lots of money to fund scientists in former Soviet Union countries.
A court Cease and Desist order? Maybe IF McCain is elected, but by then the election will be over. If I Am Who I Am wins, nothing. It wouldn’t be good for mamaObama’s children.
These people went public just a little late for much to happen to them I guess; hope I am wrong. But these are the same type who fire bomb offices and slash tires.
I imagine he did. Perhaps the same scientist now working in Iran? Soros is an odd breed, an anti-Semite Jew, anti-capitalist billionaire and first rate traitor. Any honest President would try to revoke his citizenship and deport his sorry butt Soros and that Huffington B!tch.
We have enough home grown traitors, why do we have to import more?
How fitting, the hapless democraps may be in violation of the Ku Klux Klan Act. That’s solid gold.
Its important that names always be named. Every blog possible should name as many names as possible. If these people ever decide that they will run for public office, seek a political appointment, take a position on a campaign committee etc. they need to know that they will be Google’d and called out for their participation in an intimidation organization.
Are we sure that letter from Accountable America that was posted was for real? The use of “non-partisan” was laughable. It makes me wonder if this is not all a joke.
I would say Soros is involved in some way.
Let’s say AA get is serious trouble and people get arrested and/or Cease and desist orders are issued.
Imagine the moonbat reaction “bush is just like hitler! he is silencing free speech.” No moonbat will see it the other way around.
Wassamadda, lgm. Don’t like the fact that your true colors are showing? It’s all very simple. Take away the anti-semitism and holocaust, and there is no difference between National Socialism and Americal Liberals today. Remember that Mussolini had many Jews in the government and Fascist party. And no, fascism is NOT right wing politics - it is completely a left wing political ideology; read the book.
This episode is actually rather funny. The reason John F’ing Kerry didn’t release his military records is because they included his college transcripts. Sulzberger at the New York Crimes once remarked he couldn’t believe that anyone would vote for someone as stupid as President Bush. You see, Bush did release his college transcripts.
The reason Kerry couldn’t was because his transcripts would show his grades were lower than Bush’s! The Swifties used Kerry’s inactions against him and the entire debacle was caused by Sulzberber and the New York Crimes!
Sweet!
The KKK Act was designed to stop Democrats from engaging in anti-American and racist behavior. More than ever, this law is needed with Democrats/liberals/progressives launching an all out attack on all decent and law abiding Americans, our culture, and our national security.
Democrat politicians have accused conservative journalists by name of causing specific acts of violence endangering the journalists safety - including Michelle M, Rush, and others and lead the charge to destroy talk radio.
Their ultimate aim is to destroy our Constitution and re-instate slavery communist style: i.e. all are slaves to the State. We nearly had them repeal the 2nd Amendment ( there would have been violence if that had occurred), and attacks on free speech, religion, property rights, judges amending the Constitution, are all taking place. It is only a matter of time before either the liberal courts or the Democrats in Congress or a Democrat President perform some act so despicable that they once again bring our Nation to civil war.
Excellent. Uh….I mean, this is terrible. Please don’t sue me!