China busted, IOC shrugs

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 14, 2008 11:18 AM

How many “16″-year-olds do you know who still have baby teeth?!

Crikey.

Jim Hoft follows the trail of the whitewashed ages of the Chinese female gymnasts.

Here’s the response from the International Olympic Committee:

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  1. #1
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:22 am, RedDog said:

    Trust me, it’s deeper than this. Their advances in swimming and gymnastics have mirrored the “coaching” – read doping – they received from the East Germans in the ’90s. They are cheaters on several levels. Nothing like a state apparatus to ensure victory. Their gold medals are a sham.

  2. #2
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:24 am, radio relay said:

    If any “adult” athlete is found to have taken a performance enhancer, then call out the inquisitors. China, substitutes babies for adults?… never mind!

  3. #3
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:24 am, SuzEQCitizen said:

    Somehow blatant cheating, past Americans with their golds stripped for doping, and cheating French(?) ice-skating judges have just left me uninterested in the Olympics this time.

  4. #4
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:24 am, atheling said:

    This is why I don’t bother watching the Olympics anymore.

  5. #5
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:25 am, ddhinnyc said:

    Now, now, Michelle, you DON’T cross the communists. Especially 1 billion look-alikes with no individuality who could all be issued a gun.

  6. #6
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:25 am, sambo said:

    These are China’s olympics after all…what would you expect. Did anyone see the IOC president Bush about coming into town with six shooters blazing? (or something along those lines)

  7. #7
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:26 am, ajmontana said:

    We were watching here, and from the get go called B.S. on the age.
    as my good friend feebz said….
    “Cheater Cheater Pumpkin Eater”
    lmao.

  8. #8
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:27 am, zeroangel said:

    First, this should come as absolutely no surprise. The Chinese treat rules and treaties like toilet paper.

    I can’t get the IOC’s response but I assume its some platitudes that go something like this, “Well, it’s OK, because China is a developing nation.” Hmmm… Maybe I am confusing that with the attitude the International “community” takes toward China and pollution; meh, no matter.

    In any event, why exactly is there a rule that competitors have to be 18? What’s wrong with allowing a minor who is THAT good the right to compete? Am I missing something?

  9. #9
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:27 am, katieanne said:

    What’s the point in having rules if they aren’t enforced? Of course, our own government can’t enforce our immigration laws, so why should an impotent Olympic Committee be any different? Let’s all just do anything we want.

  10. #10
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:27 am, Jarhead said:

    Please! Think of the children! /sarc off

  11. #11
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:28 am, alaskangrizzly said:

    China will do everything in their power to win, including doping and issue fake passports.

    No shock to the rest of sane America and the what little is left of sanity in the rest of the world.

  12. #12
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:29 am, b-cat said:

    Now, now, communists don’t cheat. Look at the pictures, they’re old enough to wear eye make up.

  13. #13
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:29 am, Jarhead said:

    Their only BABIES! What a Lib would be saying.

  14. #14
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:29 am, SuzEQCitizen said:

    Hey, but what else can we expect from a country who tells a child she is not attractive enough to sing the country’s national anthem on global television?

  15. #15
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:29 am, taylork said:

    The IOC is really doing its best to compete with the UN for the gold medal in worthless foreign institutions.

  16. #16
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:30 am, Jarhead said:

    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:29 am, b-cat said:
    Now, now, communists don’t cheat. Look at the pictures, they’re old enough to wear eye make up.

    And carry a AK-47

  17. #17
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:30 am, abstractmind said:

    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:25 am, sambo said:

    ROFL, i heard something along those lines…

    Like, he’s all Yosemite Sam, arms akimbo, pistols shootin’ and everything!

    funny stuff

  18. #18
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:31 am, sambo said:

    zeroangel said:
    In any event, why exactly is there a rule that competitors have to be 18?

    In gynastic’s the age is 16. The reason is to prevent injuries.

  19. #19
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:32 am, zeroangel said:

    sambo:

    Ahh OK then. That does makes sense. Thank you.

  20. #20
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:32 am, ajmontana said:

    Rule!? Rules!? We don’t need no stinking rules!

  21. #21
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:33 am, Flyoverman said:

    We have not had this much Olympic fun since 1936.

  22. #22
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:34 am, Barry F. said:

    Hello? It’s China. I know no one was holding out high hopes for their honesty on this or anything else, right? ;-)

  23. #23
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:34 am, Daria said:

    The IOC is about as useful as the UN.

  24. #24
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:35 am, taylork said:

    Let’s see….

    fake fireworks
    fake singers
    fake ‘mist’ (sorry China, the world isn’t that stupid to believe that your pollution is mist)
    fake athletes
    fake freedoms

    Is anyone actually shocked by any of this?!?!?! China’s “coming out party” is nothing but a farce that our idiot media is salivating over.

  25. #25
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:35 am, Christian Soldier said:

    This sport is monitored – “vetted” very carefully: :-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQgTiqhPbw

    Trained for war–Moves to move ground troops out of the way and to protect the rider…

    Now it’s a sport with an artistic touch :-)

    Enjoy…..

  26. #26
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:36 am, Daria said:

    Taylork,

    Sorry, didn’t see your comment before posting mine…two great minds with a single thought!

  27. #27
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:36 am, emjem24 said:

    It’s very hard to enforce the age requirements in Gymnastics. Using underage athletes is a common practice in Communist countries. That the IOC is complicit in this practice is disgusting.

    Many people will dismiss the complaints by the US team regarding the age of half the Chinese women’s team as sour grapes. Unfortunately, this goes way beyond sour grapes. Recently, a Chinese athlete had admitted that she was underage when she competed in the 2000 Sydney Olympics. There were Chinese newspapers reporting that at least one of the Chinese women wasn’t 16 when she competed in a warm-up meet.

    What I don’t understand is that if the Chinese really care about transparency and honesty in the Olympics, why don’t they offer up actual proof of eligibility? And I’m not talking passports that can be easily forged. It’s beginning to seem that either a) the IOC is not interested in fairness to satisfy the Chinese or b) they’re that stupid if they think that at least 3 of the Chinese women are 16.

    Bela Karoli offered up a suggestion. If the IOC or international gymnastics community isn’t interested in upholdng the age requirement, then just do away with it. That way no one cheats and any female gymnast has a chance at competing.

  28. #28
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:36 am, sambo said:

    abstractmind said:
    Like, he’s all Yosemite Sam, arms akimbo, pistols shootin’ and everything!

    funny stuff

    I guess I should expect that from a wussyfied eurowinnie from Belgian.
    Go pound commies Count Jacques Rogge.

  29. #29
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:37 am, walterc said:

    Even with the underage thing, I watched the finals and the U.S. team beat themselves. Granted the judging was leaning towards the Chinese team, but they wobbled on the beam (one actually fell off) opening the door for the U.S. to win gold, and they had one fall off the beam (not that I’m critizing, because I couldn’t walk that beam much less do a back flip), but then two of the three stepped out of bounds on the floor. They had an opening and didn’t follow through.

    Besides, if the Chinese kids are only 13 or 14 (or younger) and they are beating kids that are in their late teens, it’s even more impressive. IMHO

    Aside from the fact that they are taken from their homes at 2 or 3 years old, and spend every waking moment training. And as soon as as they are too old to compete, they and their families are kicked to the curb.

  30. #30
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:38 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Lol. When are you Westerners going to learn?

  31. #31
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:38 am, BuckNutty said:

    They are probably waiting for the games to end then they will, as quietly as possible, strip the medals from the Chinese.

    I hope anyway.

  32. #32
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:39 am, John Ansell said:

    How does this help Michelle’s (O)children?

  33. #33
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:40 am, taylork said:

    Aside from the fact that they are taken from their homes at 2 or 3 years old, and spend every waking moment training. And as soon as as they are too old to compete, they and their families are kicked to the curb.

    In China, it’s called a 48th trimester abortion.

  34. #34
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:41 am, wighttrasch said:

    haha! crickets on the youtube!

    Now, if Ali G or Borat was there, he’d get an interview with the IOC…

  35. #35
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:41 am, jencab said:

    This happens in communist countries all the time. The deliberate lies of age on passports and birth certificates to compete on the international stage.

  36. #36
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:41 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Did anyone expect anything more from a communist nation?

    Cheating and deceiving is a way of life.

  37. #37
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:42 am, Kwill said:

    It’s obvious many of those Chinese gymnasts are 10-14 years old. Everyone knows it, but good luck getting anyone outside the US to care.

  38. #38
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:44 am, b-cat said:

    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:41 am, BlameAmericaLast said:
    Did anyone expect anything more from a communist nation?

    Cheating and deceiving is a way of life.

    You forgot stealing, espionage, subversion and assasination.

  39. #39
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:44 am, pueblo1032 said:

    Watch the other night… Obvious one little girl would be hard pressed to prove 12, let alone 16… At least two more 14ish… So blatant it was sad… The explain from the too afraid announcers China said their passports said they were all 16… Passports issued by CHINA…ANY QUESTIONS???

  40. #40
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:45 am, et said:

    This is all about nothing. Haven’t you people heard of Chinese New Year. These girls have two birthdays each year. So of course they are old enough. We should apologize to our Chinese masters for doubting their wisdom.

    Sarcasm OFF.

  41. #41
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:46 am, nbarry said:

    I’m shocked, shocked that underage girls are sneaked onto gymnastics teams. It wasn’t so long ago that fey sportscasters were exclaiming, “Bring on the pixies!” Without them, what are pedophile viewers to do?

  42. #42
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:46 am, ddhinnyc said:

    Those Chinese could have a syringe full of steroids hanging out of their ass and the IOC would remain silent.

  43. #43
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:46 am, CantCureStupid said:

    The ‘duh’ heard round the world… China cheats, what a shock!! And of course the IOC, being the unqualified chumps that they are, will not say a word.

    It’s really a shame for these athletes; they train for years to compete in an event that has turned into an international punch-line.

  44. #44
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:46 am, rightisright said:

    IOC and UN both impotent, anti-freedom, anti-western life organizations. Time for the US and friends to get out of both and regroup for the sake of freedom in the world.

  45. #45
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:47 am, b-cat said:

    Of course, et. I forgot about Chinese arithmetic.

  46. #46
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:47 am, taylork said:

    Remember when Iraq got banned from the Olympics n July due to political interference?

    Why even bother making these rules if they’re going to be arbitrarily enforced?

  47. #47
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:47 am, ajmontana said:

    our announcers remind me of 30 pcs favorite commercial the…
    ‘Sham wow! guy. :shock:

  48. #48
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:48 am, JHSII said:

    Bruno Grandi and Nelli Kim have made gymnastics what it is today – and to think I used to like Nelli Kim… :evil: :-( :evil:

  49. #49
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:49 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I would rather win a Silver medal than win the Gold dishonesly.

    I personally have a conscience. The Chinese “government” doesn’t.

  50. #50
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:49 am, mymanpotsandpans said:

    Too late for a boycott?

  51. #51
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:50 am, ajmontana said:

    taylork, thats funny, considering our U.S Constitution is totally carpped on daily. :(

  52. #52
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:50 am, sambo said:

    walterc said:
    Besides, if the Chinese kids are only 13 or 14 (or younger) and they are beating kids that are in their late teens, it’s even more impressive. IMHO

    There are certain advantages on the womens side to be younger. If a 14 year old boy won in the mens competition…that would be impressive.

  53. #53
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:51 am, ajmontana said:

    ditto that blame.

  54. #54
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:51 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    GEEZZZZZ If these girls were any younger, libs would be screaming for them to be aborted.

  55. #55
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:51 am, ajmontana said:

    lol @ soap. :lol:

  56. #56
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:52 am, MBuck said:

    You mean they LIED to us?

    Why, I’m just THUNDERSTRUCK.

  57. #57
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:53 am, abstractmind said:

    I think we’re missing something.

    China = Communist = Everyone is = anyway, duh!!,which translates to the participant is = to 14, which is = to 16 years old by default, which = no rules violation to begin with!

    /sarc off

  58. #58
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:54 am, mattymatt10 said:

    I miss the days of the East German “women”…sigh…

  59. #59
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:54 am, southsideironworks said:

    Like the UN, the IOC has become a refuge for despots, cheaters and other morally bankrupt figures.

    I hope Chicago wins its bid for the Olympics and takes a financial beating.

  60. #60
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:55 am, misfit138 said:

    #47

    “Order now, becasue we can’t do this all day…”

    It my new favorite commercial too (but I’m still waiting for the Obama/Kwami one to come out.

  61. #61
    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:59 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Problem is if this gymnastic competition were a military skirmish you’d be eating your guts for lunch.

    It should tell you something about China fighting a war.

  62. #62
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:00 pm, Lawrence said:

    And we wonder why people are losing interest in the the Olympics?

    The IOC has met their enemy, and it is them.

  63. #63
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:02 pm, Surveyor said:

    Where in the world is Matt Lauer? I know he’d get to the bottom of this! I’m confidant he’s over there right now doing some serious invest-uh-ma-gating…he’ll have those chineee confessin’ an apologizin’ in no time!

  64. #64
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:04 pm, cpodug said:

    Can anyone explain to me why we keep playing against a stacked deck?

  65. #65
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, kyconservative said:

    The real cheating is the children’s stolen lives. These kids are losing their lives at the age of 3-5 and they are trained like athletes that are much older. A body can only hold up under these conditions for so long. My own daughter is from China and she is just 3 and I can’t imagine allowing her to be in the situations the children are in in these videos.
    An American adoptive mom who lives in China says that her daughter took gymnastics at the same Beijing center as 3 of the olympic medalists. She has a picture of her daughter in 2002 when her daughter is 9-10 years old and the medalists are 4-6 years old. Her daughter is now 15.
    Check this link out to see how their gold medal winners are trained.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7NZ97gekZk

  66. #66
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, WrathOfKhan said:

    People actually care about the Olympics? It’s been a farce for years.

  67. #67
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, Skydiver said:

    I’m 38 and still have a couple of my baby teeth. They’re fused to my jaw! Ha ha ha!

  68. #68
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, CyberCipher said:

    Has anybody besides my dog blamed all this on Michelle Malkin yet?

    My collie says:

    We should try to undermine the Chinese and their efforts by flooding their country with Bratz dolls.

    Too late for that. Aren’t those things made in China anyhow? Besides, their government officials already look like Chuckie dolls to me.

  69. #69
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, Lawrence said:

    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:59 am, Goldwater Knight

    This is probably out of context of your post, but it got me to thinking:

    If this competition was a skirmish the Americans would have kicked Chinese posterior, but the world would still award the win to the Chinese for style points if nothing else.

    We need to stop shivering in the face of Chinese aggression and consider why China isn’t already being militarily aggressive against us. China may be able to field a million troops in short order but our technology gives us the ability to kill a million of them just as fast.

  70. #70
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    China: 20 Gold medals
    USA: 10

    Sports in which the Chinese have won gold medals, along with number :
    Diving — 4
    Fencing — 1
    Artistic Gymnastics — 3
    Judo — 1
    Shooting — 4
    Swimming — 1
    Weightlifting — 6

    And here is the U.S. breakdown:
    Road Cycling — 1
    Fencing — 1
    Shooting — 1
    Swimming — 7

  71. #71
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:12 pm, RedDog said:

    On August 14th, 2008 at 11:37 am, walterc said:
    Besides, if the Chinese kids are only 13 or 14 (or younger) and they are beating kids that are in their late teens, it’s even more impressive. IMHO

    Walter:
    They use these kids at that young age because it’s all about strngth-to-weight ratio. If an athlete is carring an extra 20 or 30lbs but is no stronger relative to their weight than the competetion, it’s obvious who will be able to jump higher and flip faster. If the ChiComs disregard the rules, they have a huge advantage. The Romanians and Russians did the same in the ’70s and ’80s.

  72. #72
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:21 pm, tedZilla99 said:

    The IOC is the same type of organization as the United Nations – filled to the top with dictator sympathizers and feckless diplomats…and as such is going to be consistently anti-American.

  73. #73
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:25 pm, ajmontana said:

    IOC had/has 200 billion $$$$ reasons to look the other way on China. 8)

  74. #74
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:30 pm, everydaydave said:

    I also believe that the girls are younger than 16. It is fun to see a lot of the media make fun at this.

    But I got to say that other than this age stuff, fake singers, fake fireworks and fakes ……, I am enjoying the Olympics as a whole.

    GO USA!

  75. #75
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, LibTired said:

    These guys give communists a bad name.

  76. #76
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, Mister P said:

    It is not so much as the age thing that bothers me. It is that these girls seem faceless and nameless. I can see the schedule. “For the all-around China presents: 12 year old, 55 pound, orphaned neutered girl”

  77. #77
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, greenfairie said:

    I think this will be remembered as the Faux-lympics: lip-synching kids, computer enhanced-fireworks, kiddie gymnasts, soon-to-be-discovered-I’m-sure doping, etc.. Fake, fake, fake, fake.

  78. #78
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, BrianNY said:

    Goldwater:

    It should tell you something about China fighting a war.

    Bingo. I imagine that the combat conduct of the ChiComs would rival that of the Russians, but in any event, make the Islamos seem like boy scouts.

    China certainly seems to be a society that believes exclusively that “the ends justifies the means.”

    At the risk of a threadjack – I’ve always wondered how China went from protecting our pilots after Doolittle’s Raid in 1942 to storming into N. Korea to attack our troops in 1950.

    I get the feeling that a liberal, FDR State Department investment in Mao’s ‘Cultural Revolution’ played a major role in this.

    I recognize that this is extreme stuff, but if I was Truman, I would have flattened every Chinese city when they poured over one million troops into N. Korea to try to annihilate US Forces.

    That was an unacceptable action on China’s part, and it has been downhill ever since.

  79. #79
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:35 pm, wighttrasch said:

    GEEZZZZZ If these girls were any younger, libs would be screaming for them to be aborted.

    Reminds me of an episode of ‘Absolutely Fabulous’ in which Magda states “if the models get any younger, Pats, they’ll be chuckin’ fetuses down the catwalk”

  80. #80
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:39 pm, b-cat said:

    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, BrianNY said:
    I’ve always wondered how China went from protecting our pilots after Doolittle’s Raid in 1942 to storming into N. Korea to attack our troops in 1950.

    It’s the difference between a friendly Kuomintang government and the Maoist communist revolutionaries that siezed control after WWII.

  81. #81
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:44 pm, ttevolla said:

    How many “16″-year-olds do you know who still have baby teeth?!

    I can honestly say I did know one. She was the niece of my friend. She was staying with his family because of trouble in her home. One summer weekend visit, I noticed she had two front teeth missing. I asked who hit her then both he and his wife had a mixture of giggles and shock and said to me that Stephanie still had her baby teeth! Steph continued to lose more during that summer. Fortunately she had a wicked sense of humor by demanding the money plus interest that was owed to her by the tooth fairy.

    Ten years later with two kids of her own, we still talk about that toothless summer.

  82. #82
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:47 pm, NJRepublican said:

    Michelle, check out smileycentral-dot-com for a crickets chirping smiley face.

  83. #83
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:50 pm, rambler said:

    The Chinese are cheating??? Are we suprized? NO! The Olympics without cheating just wouldn’t be the Olympics. So now in an effort to CONTROL everything the outside world sees in China, the chinese are exposing who they really are. One always has to be aware of the unintended consequences. These control freaks may not like what the world learns about them.

  84. #84
    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:58 pm, HomeoftheBrave said:

    How does this help Michelle O’s kidz?

  85. #85
    On August 14th, 2008 at 1:03 pm, BrianNY said:

    TOS,

    Do you think that Deng Linlin looks like Sam Cassell with hair too?

    Or is that a comparison reserved for female Filipina-Americans only?

  86. #86
    On August 14th, 2008 at 1:11 pm, Ty85719 said:

    The Chinese, caught cheating? surely you gest?

    America should have boycotted these games.

    Is it any wonder that the Chinese seem to only win in the subjective competitions?

    Seems like the Chinese government and the Obama administration will get along well enough, though. After all they do share the same Marxist philosophies, and both are great at scrubbing digital information.

  87. #87
    On August 14th, 2008 at 1:17 pm, jbh45 said:

    The Olympics? Is that what’s on TV these days? Oh, I thought it was just a political documentary on China with beautiful fauxtography. Oh well….

    ….IOC or UN, IOC or UN? Its really a toss up. Both orgs are do-nothings. Aren’t they really interchangeable?

  88. #88
    On August 14th, 2008 at 1:37 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Especially 1 billion look-alikes with no individuality

    Uh, do you know any Asians? Can we get over the “they all look alike” stereotype please? Their government sucks, but the Chinese people are amazing.

    And RedDog #70, yes. Also in women’s gymnastics, as they develop hips and breasts, their center of gravity moves around.

  89. #89
    On August 14th, 2008 at 1:37 pm, Sanddog said:

    Uh, they’re communist. Of course they’ll lie and cheat.

    This is precisely why we should have boycotted this Olympics instead of giving them free propaganda broadcast by our media.

  90. #90
    On August 14th, 2008 at 1:39 pm, ackrite55 said:

    Cheated or not, we are being beat by babies. Who needs performance enhancers when you have toothless tweens.

  91. #91
    On August 14th, 2008 at 1:45 pm, Riffman said:

    It’s embarrassing watching much of NBC’s coverage of these Olympics, constantly spinning for the Chinese.

    I have been flipping between NBC and CBC, and the Canadiens are much better. They have better analysts during the events, and their reporting is decidedly pro-Canada while being very congradulatory towards American (and other) medal winners.

    What suprised me most was seeing some CBC reports very critical of China – one on the horrible air quality and another on the ticket scandal resulting in so many empty seats.

  92. #92
    On August 14th, 2008 at 1:47 pm, Send_Me said:

    This is what I’m hearing: “Oh, but shouldn’t we be ‘diplomatic’ and ‘cautious’ in dealing with the Chinese? They do have lots of people and guns. We should tread lightly and speak softly when talking about the wonderful Chinese…” You cheat, you lose. What’s the issue? Nothing personal. Nothing political. So, someone tell me again why didn’t we completely boycott these games?
    Just wait and see, someone will accuse Phelps of cheating here pretty soon. It wouldn’t be the first time an international sports organization acted in a shady manner (Graeme Obree anyone? Lance Armstrong?)

  93. #93
    On August 14th, 2008 at 1:57 pm, Send_Me said:

    On August 14th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, 30 pcs of silver:

    Just wait until the basketball, track & field, softball, beach volleyball and other finals. The U.S. will still come out on top.

  94. #94
    On August 14th, 2008 at 2:08 pm, Gorebot said:

    On the one hand: Adults behaving like children (ie, the clinical shame/paranoia/persecution complex of the ChiCom government); and, on the other hand,

    … children behaving like adults (ie, innocent underage female gymnasts abjectly subordinating — via coersion — their very identities in order to please their “superiors”).

    This is all a perfect metaphor for the systemically vile International Olympic Committee, which got all its training from the congenitally spineless mirror-worshipping bureaucrats at the UN.

    The Olympics are like politicians and the media, bereft of all credibility.

  95. #95
    On August 14th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, jdubya said:

    You actually think the IOC is going to do anything about it? Bwaaafaaawww!!

    Have you listened to the NBC goons during the events? They are practically making it sound like the Chinese are the super race. I think they all want jobs there or something.

    None to worry. I give China about 10 more years before it implodes on itself.

  96. #96
    On August 14th, 2008 at 2:15 pm, hadsil said:

    The 1972 US Basketball Team was/is right not to have accepted their silver medals. While I don’t think the 2008 US Women’s Gymnastics Team should give back their silver medals, but for whatever it’s worth, perhaps mentally they can take solace in knowing they really won the gold. The mistakes in the team competition are now moot for the individual all-around.

  97. #97
    On August 14th, 2008 at 2:36 pm, Send_Me said:

    Then you have Cheng Fei, age 20 (confirmed age.) I recall the commentators saying that she wanted to retire, but her parents wouldn’t let her because she was too valuable as a gymnast for the country and to the family. Gotta love it.
    Also, anyone else see the image on Google? If I do recall, the American “Redeem” team put China in a hurt-locker in the first round. A better picture would be an eagle picking up a small snake with its talons with a basketball in its beak.

  98. #98
    On August 14th, 2008 at 2:42 pm, jbh45 said:

    AlohaGuy,

    I agree with your statement. Its really offensive for people to describe asians as all looking the same. My family is made up of vietnamese, chinese, and korean. Each is unique in their own way. I am surprised that the person who originally posted that comment hasn’t been axed by the site. MM and crew can be a bit trigger happy.

  99. #99
    On August 14th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, sambo said:

    jbh45 said:
    AlohaGuy,
    I agree with your statement. Its really offensive for people to describe asians as all looking the same.

    Maybe they meant sound the same;) I read that some 90% of Chinese have 1 of 100 of the most common last names.

  100. #100
    On August 14th, 2008 at 2:52 pm, sambo said:

    Here is some news on NBC’s coverage:

    In a temper tantrum befitting a 2-year-old, Swedish wrestler Ara Abrahamian threw his bronze medal to the mat, and walked off the podium. This was after he had to be held back from attacking the judges in a controversial semifinal loss to Italian Andrea Minguzzi. If you just watched MSNBC’s coverage of Greco-Roman wrestling, you would have just seen the story of American Adam Wheeler’s unlikely bronze, and Minguzzi dancing and flipping after winning gold. Abrahamian’s tantrum, along with the upsets of several top wrestlers including Egyptian Karam Gaber and American Dremiel Byers, were not even discussed, much less shown. What gives, NBC?

    Another writer has already accused NBC of glossing over China’s problems outside of sports. I see that as a forgiveable sin if it’s their intent to keep sports separate from politics. (Of course, if that was their intent, they shouldn’t have fawned over the Georgian and Russian medalists who were friends.) However, whitewashing what actually happens within the sporting arena is completely unforgiveable. There are good things and bad things that happen in sports, and responsible journalism covers it all.

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