McCain floats a pro-choice VP trial balloon

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 14, 2008 07:02 AM

The McCain camp is dipping its maaaverick toe into the water, testing to see how the conservative base will react to the possibility (probability?) of a pro-abortion vice presidential pick. Pro-open borders. Pro-global warming hysteria. Might as well go for the trifecta.

They want to know what you think. So, go ahead and let them know what you think.

Don’t hold back:

John McCain’s admission to the Weekly Standard’s Steve Hayes (”Shayes” to friends) that he would consider the possibility of choosing a pro-choice running mate is rightly seen as a trial balloon to gauge reaction among conservative base voters to such a move.

“I think that the pro-life position is one of the important aspects or fundamentals of the Republican Party,” McCain told Hayes. “And I also feel that — and I’m not trying to equivocate here — that Americans want us to work together. You know, [former Pennsylvania Governor] Tom Ridge is one of the great leaders and he happens to be pro-choice. And I don’t think that that would necessarily rule Tom Ridge out.”

Later he added: “I think it’s a fundamental tenet of our party to be pro-life but that does not mean we exclude people from our party that are pro-choice. We just have a — albeit strong — but just it’s a disagreement. And I think Ridge is a great example of that. Far more so than [New York City Mayor Michael] Bloomberg, because Bloomberg is pro-gay rights, pro, you know, a number of other issues.”

“I’m not trying to equivocate here.”

Uh-huh.

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  1. #406552
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:08 am, PoetSirrah said:

    If McCain goes with a pro-abortion VP nominee, he loses me and a lot of other Catholics; this is not just a political issue, but a moral one.

  2. #406553
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:11 am, MacEamonn said:

    Why does this man make every effort to try and get me to stay home in November? Is Barry considering a Pro-life VP candidate? I doubt it!

  3. #406554
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:12 am, warden said:

    Did the North Vietnamese cut his balls off? It doesn’t seem like he can take a principled stand on anything.
    I long for a conservative candidate.

  4. #406556
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:23 am, iamsaved said:

    Maybe McCain should use the term pro-abortion and not pro-choice. The only choice these people make is “should they abort in the first trimester or wait and have a partial birth abortion”.

    John McCain has repeatedly given ‘in your face’ challenges to the conservative base and is working hard to keep more and more people home when it comes time to vote.

  5. #406557
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:23 am, mom24ks said:

    Would someone please tell Senator McCain that the pro life issue requires him to plant both feet on one side of the fence? Choices concerning life and death are kinda like that.

  6. #406558
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:24 am, pianoman said:

    Main Entry: equiv·o·cate
    Pronunciation: \i-ˈkwi-və-ˌkāt\
    Function: intransitive verb
    Inflected Form(s): equiv·o·cat·ed; equiv·o·cat·ing
    Date: 1590
    1 : to use equivocal language especially with intent to deceive
    2 : to avoid committing oneself in what one says
    synonyms see lie

    Hope this clears it up for you, Senator.

  7. #406559
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:27 am, CoffeeGuzzler said:

    How I long for a canidate to vote for rather than two canidates to vote against. Paris might get my write in vote after all because she is more stable than the two we have. jmc and bho will both say what the crowd they are speaking to want to hear at that specific time. I love my dad dearly and miss him but I’m glad he isn’t here to see what these libs and rinos have done to the nation he fought for in WWII. It would break his heart.

  8. #406561
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:32 am, englishqueen01 said:

    Since it’s likely the McCain folks read this blog – let me put this here and make it explicitly clear:

    I WON’T VOTE FOR A PRO-ABORTION POLITICIAN.

    Period.

    Choosing a pro-abortion VP will make you no different than Obama.

    Don’t do it.

  9. #406562
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:34 am, postobitum said:

    Pianoman said it all!

  10. #406563
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:38 am, flutejpl said:

    McCain to his party: finger, meet eyeball.

  11. #406564
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:38 am, Daria said:

    Just when I finally reconcile myself to voting for him, John McCain finds another way to make it even more difficult. In light of the new information regarding Obama and the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, he’s blowing a golden opportunity to solidify the base by choosing a solid pro-lifer. Sadly, he still seems to be under the mistaken impression that his “base” is still the media. Apparently, he’s learned nothing from Reagan about “reaching out” to articulate conservative, common-sense principles, not “compromise” with the squishy GOP moderates.

  12. #406566
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:40 am, WrathOfKhan said:

    Abortion is detestable, of course, but:

    1. Abortion should be a state’s decision, not the federal government’s.

    2. Who owns your body, you or the government?

    3. A person will answer to their moral authority and their god, and not to their government.

    4. Federal dollars should not be subsidizing doctors (any doctor) or planned parenthood, or any similar organizations and clinics.

  13. #406567
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:40 am, guitarplayer said:

    I just don’t get McCain. Is he deliberately trying to get his base ticked-off at him? He’ll get conservatives staying home on election day and handing it all to the democrats.

    I for one will put the noseplugs in and pull the lever for McCain. The whole time I’ll be thinking “Do it for the troops”.

  14. #406568
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:43 am, CoffeeGuzzler said:

    englishqueen01 what are you going to do? Not vote? I hate to say it but I don’t think it is possible for me to vote this time around. I never voted in my life until I was 37 yrs old. I registered so I could vote against clinton and I’ve been voting ever since.

  15. #406569
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:43 am, KitFox said:

    Maybe we should stop talking about the polls that make it look like McCain has a fighting chance. Every time it seems like his odds improve, he comes out with some completely wrongheaded idea like this one.

    I’ve got news for you, Sen. McCain: if you make one of the hallmarks of your ticket the “right to choose,” you’re going to see conservatives excercise our right to choose someone other than you.

  16. #406570
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:45 am, b-cat said:

    I agree, Daria. I wish this guy would do something like make a principled stand on something. Every time he shows his maveric side he shows why he can’t be trusted.

  17. #406572
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:50 am, jangar said:

    Just exactly WHO is he trying to attract as supporters and voters? Me thinks the beltway has rotted his sense of reality and replaced it with the misguided thought that the majority of Americans want variety in their party and the 2006 elections was a referendum on politicians to “work together”. Clouded thinking, buddy! We don’t want things done…

  18. #406575
    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:57 am, Ron said:

    Can it get any worse for conservatives? I mean, how much do we have to take of this crap before we just say enough, we’re outta here. Obama is in trouble because he’s Obama, and we’re in trouble because McCain’s McCain, an unprincipled, manipulating, lying liberal pretending to be a “moderate” (don’t even talk to me about his “conservative” credentials.) Have we ever had a choice that was this bad? I swear if Hillary ran I’d probably have to vote for her, and I LOATHE the Clintons, root and branch. McCain and his botoxed beer heiress are just too much for me to stomach.

  19. #406576
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:02 am, stevevvs said:

    I just have to ask, why would anyone in the world vote FOR this man? Seriously.I’m a life long Conservative, and, up till now, I’ve always voted Republican. But I’m tired of voting “Jersey Politics”. So, since McCain has an “R” on his Jersey, I’m suppose to hold my nose and vote for him? Sorry, this second term of Bush has been enough for me. Neither one of these two cares about the Constitution, the rule of law, sovereignty, or anything else. I will, without hesitation, vote for a true conservative this year. Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party.I can’t vote the lesser of two evils any longer.

  20. #406577
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:02 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    You all laughed when I said McCain will pick Rudy and give the conservative base to the Repubilcan party (in effect the Republican Party) its death blow.

    Need more proof McCain wants to kill the party?

    EVERY moderate Republican running for POTUS has lost the election and here they are trying, once again, to force a moderate on us. We have a moderate running in a close race and now he is going to look at candidates who are pro-death. Grr888888888ttttt. If Obama wins, it is the lack of vision the Republicans have to look in the past to see what fails and choosing to do it again. IDIOTS.

    AJ, still think you will win that $5?

  21. #406579
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:06 am, WrathOfKhan said:

    #14:

    A right to choose is a conservative one, right? Seems pretty consistent with the ideal of limited government. Agree?

  22. #406581
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:08 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    They want to know what you think. So, go ahead and let them know what you think.

    Done. Although, I believe I need a shower after having visited his website.

  23. #406585
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:14 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    LOL 30,

    I just left my comment as well. I couldn’t stay and read his issues as I threw up a little in my mouth while reading climate change. UGH

    Thanks John I-can’t-shoot-my-hand-up-fast-enough-to-join-the-man-made-global-warming-crowd McCain!

  24. #406587
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:15 am, conservativesRus said:

    I’m still curious where it indicates in the constitution that the job of the POTUS is to co-operate? I guess I was always under the mis-guided impression the job was to LEAD.
    Leaders have goals for themselves, AND those around them (ie, their followers or constituents). Leaders get those around them to those goals. What are McCain’s goals? Methinks McCain’s goal involves only himself. NOT A LEADER

  25. #406588
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:15 am, Daria said:

    Jangar, I couldn’t agree more! By the way, why does “bi-partisanship” always involve Republicans selling out to Democrats?

    B-Cat, I’m going to hope and pray that the Senator actually reads blogs like Michelle’s and will come to his senses before it’s too late. Last week, I was really excited by the news that Eric Cantor was being vetted. Now, there’s a ticket I could enthusiastically support, not to mention Romney or Sanford. I also liked Sarah Palin until I read the news about her support for the windfall profits tax. Actually, I still like her, as she solid on most issues; just disappointed to see her stand on that particular point. Still, I’d take Palin over Ridge whole-heartedly!

    I think McCain is suffering from the same cronyism/bipartisan disorder that has destroyed the Bush administration. One would think they were running for student council in high school, given their perverse need to ingratiate themselves to the other party. Sigh!

  26. #406590
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:16 am, conservativesRus said:

    Oh – one more thing. Irish Rose (and others of the McCain’s strong pro-life record trumps everything), what say you now?

  27. #406592
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:18 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Soap,

    We’re screwed in ‘08. No doubt about it.

  28. #406593
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:21 am, Oink said:

    Does he want to be POTUS or not?

  29. #406595
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:23 am, b-cat said:

    Daria, I feel the same way about Cantor. I don’t live in his district, but am close enough to know about him. Solid.

  30. #406596
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:25 am, Rob said:

    Conservatives are just sticking their finger in the blog dyke hoping to stop a flood.

    The new population information is just out and America as we know it is going bye bye and nothing is going to stop it. The liberals will inherit the USA and conservatives will only be seen in museums and old old movies.

    U.S. White Population Will Be Minority by 2042, Government Says

    And with aging baby boomers expected to double the nation’s elderly population by 2035, and Latinos, Asians and other minority groups expected to become a majority of the nation’s working-age population soon after, society may have to shuck off traditional prejudices.”

  31. #406597
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:25 am, Trollman said:

    Yes, McCain, I am pro-choice, I am VERY pro-choice.

    I am for having the choice between a pro-life candidate and a pro-abortion candidate. Unfortunately, it appears I will not have a pro-life option to vote for.

    I had already decided not to vote for McCain for other reasons, and this just goes to further justify my conclusion.

    Any good ideas for a write-in?

  32. #406598
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:26 am, jencab said:

    Exactly what Michelle insinuates. McCain is leaving a hint to see how the base would react if he chose a pro-abortion candidate A.K.A Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman.
    The president is the one that ultimately makes the decision on issues concerning life and McCain has been pro-life although not as adamantly as he should. I really believe that Joe or Tom would switch their position if it came to it, a la Romney.
    I think to just sit out this election would just hand the election over to Obama and I am not hesitant to pull that lever for McCain. National security and having a commander in chief that knows what he is doing is doubly important.
    I am by no means a moderate, but I don’t want my country run by a socialist.

  33. #406599
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:28 am, dominigan said:

    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:25 am, Rob said

    Woohoo! Minority status! (and all the perks that come with it!) [/sarc]

  34. #406600
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:30 am, conservativesRus said:

    Hey Rob (#27) – way to pull an LGM and get way way way off the topic.

    But since you brought it up – are you saying that life as you know it is only because of white people? Are you saying “Latinos, Asians and other minority groups” are not capable of vibrant, democratic, capitalist, Judeao-Christian society? I will disagree with you vehemently on both points. Just what are you saying?

  35. #406601
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:32 am, txvet2 said:

    Well, Atheling, and Irish Rose, there went your single issue. What do you say about McCain now?

  36. #406602
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:32 am, Daria said:

    I just made my displeasure (respectfully) known at McCain’s site. If this is truly a trial balloon, hopefully conservatives will be able to talk him out of this nonsense.

  37. #406603
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:33 am, conservativesRus said:

    Trollman – Chuck Baldwin – Constitution party – and won’t even have to be a “write-in” in most states.

  38. #406604
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:33 am, SpeakEasy said:

    Now that Barack has shown his weaknesses is barely ahead of McCain, the dems (some) seem to be rethinking their nomination. It is not too late for conservatives to rethink ours as well. I respect McCain for his past service but can not vote for him. If that means we get a Democratic President, so be it. I know I will be chastised for this but you have to ask yourself which values are more important. I will not compromise a baby’s right to live for security. A clear message needs to be sent.

  39. #406608
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:35 am, DogBreath said:

    He needs to pick a sane CONSERVATIVE running mate to balance his insane liberal stands on immigration, campaign finance, etc…

    I would also like to see McCain reach across the aisle and work with Republicans on some bipartisan issues.

  40. #406610
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:36 am, BOB said:

    I’ve heard for a week or so that Tom Ridge is going to be McCain’s VP.

    I hope not.

  41. #406611
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:37 am, txvet2 said:

    On August 14th, 2008 at 7:50 am, jangar said:

    Just exactly WHO is he trying to attract as supporters and voters?

    I don’t know how he could be any clearer. He’s looking for Democrat and liberal Independent votes. He’s stated and demonstrated it repeatedly.

  42. #406612
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:40 am, abstractmind said:

    McCain is making it harder and harder for people like me who are still undecided, to vote for him.

  43. #406613
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:40 am, davidjamesduprey said:

    John McCain is the closest now as he has ever been to the presidency.

    Now he is shooting himself in the foot by even floating the idea of a moderate VP pick. This will guarantee that he loses his chance for good.

    Which is both a good thing and a bad thing. We certainly don’t need McCain thinking he can run again in 2012.

    When the people are given the choice between a socialist and a socialist-lite, why would they choose the pretender?

  44. #406615
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:43 am, Jbgood said:

    jencab, the main difference between jmc and bho is the degree of socialism. neither are conservatve. It will just take a little longer if jmc is elected rather than bho. The only thing i believe is important is for us to insure a large conservative down ticket to minimize the looming disaster that surly is approaching.

  45. #406616
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:43 am, fromnowhere said:

    The one sign of hope out of the McCain camp is that they are concerned about the reaction of the conservative Republicans. Sadly, there is not a deep sense of conviction on this point by McCain or his handlers/strategists/used car salesmen/sellouts (take your pick). From a strategic point we can only hope he will be elected and the influence of the conservative Republicans can be a strong influence on him. That is certainly not the case with the “Change” man.

  46. #406617
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:44 am, Send_Me said:

    A. John McCain
    B. Barack Obama
    C. None of the Above

    C

  47. #406618
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:45 am, guitarplayer said:

    Maybe McCain’s still mad at conservatives for sinking his illegal alien amnesty bill. This is way of saying “I’ll show them”.

    Staying home and not voting won’t help. Everyone who stayed home in 2006 and let the democrats win though they were sending a message to the GOP. Doesn’t look like it helped much. Looks like the only message they got was “We need to go to the left.” Look who have for a candidate now.

  48. #406619
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:47 am, davidjamesduprey said:

    I am one of those conservatives who possibly could vote for McCain if he someone who was palatable to me as a VP. I long for the days when Romney was ahead!

    Otherwise, I’ll go with a write-in and vote for Ron Paul.

    Maybe Governor Bobby Jindal will run in 2012 possibly with Romney? That would be a winner to me!

    I can dream can’t I?

  49. #406620
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:47 am, txvet2 said:

    I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. I still think that McCain has no real interest in being elected President. He accomplished his goal of getting revenge on the Republicans (and conservatives) by winning the nomination. He won’t mind a bit losing this election – in fact, it looks like he’s trying his best to.

  50. #406625
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:52 am, blue-eyed-devil said:

    The Republican Party continues its self-destruction. Abortion, illegal aliens, bloated government spending,the endless pandering to SIG’s.

    My disgust grows with every news story I read.

    Be a REAL maverick, McCain! Stand up for conservative principles and quit bowing down to liberals in an attempt to get their vote (news flash: your not going to get it anyway)!

  51. #406629
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:56 am, JDinTX said:

    McCain does not want the conservative base to vote for him. He is trying to attract the liberals so when he loses the White House, he can always tell them how he fought for them. Guess he is hoping to lose and get some big-shot job in the Obama administration.

  52. #406631
    On August 14th, 2008 at 8:56 am, MacUser said:

    I don’t like abortion and I do think that people who do it are taking a life. But, with that said, I can’t say that I want to stop people from doing if, if that is what they want to do.

    We conservative are always asking people to support themselves, get jobs, say off of welfare, etc. I am all for that…

    But until we can get EVERYONE to be better educated, better parenets, more responsible with their money, off of drugs, etc… I think it is OK that there is a way for them to limit the burden that a child will bring.

    Until we solve one problem, we are going to need the other.

    The big story in the news now is that Whites will be the minority by 2048. The biggest reason for this is because of the high birth rates of the current minority leader, Hispanics. So… Lets just say that the majority of these Hispanics are illegal, and very low income. (I have no facts on this, and am just trying to make a point.) So they are cranking out babies that they cannot support without public assistance, (or maybe it is BECAUSE OF public assistance), and we conservative want to take away a means for them to limit their population growth?

    I guess this is harsh, but it is the argument that I have with myself when I think about abortion.

  53. #406635
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:03 am, Rob said:

    conservativesRus said: Hey Rob (#27) – way to pull an LGM and get way way way off the topic.

    Oh dear…

    Are you saying “Latinos, Asians and other minority groups” are not capable of vibrant, democratic, capitalist, Judeao-Christian society?

    Yeah, I am pretty much saying that. I look around the world, and I sure don’t this country being like theirs… but Mexico, for example is sending its riff raff over here and dumbing down this country… Juan McAmnesty supports it, and I think that our once good conservative country is going to be short lived.

  54. #406638
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:07 am, tre said:

    I told him what I think. But, hey, I’m a Conservative, so he doesn’t care what I think.

  55. #406640
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:09 am, MtsEdge said:

    Daria said,

    Just when I finally reconcile myself to voting for him, John McCain finds another way to make it even more difficult. In light of the new information regarding Obama and the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, he’s blowing a golden opportunity to solidify the base by choosing a solid pro-lifer.

    My thoughts exactly. I’m already having enough trouble mustering the resolve to vote for him. I need to keep reminding myself that a vote for anyone other that McCain is effectively a vote for Obama, but it’s REALLY hard. I don’t want to affirm this man’s way of thinking by awarding him my vote. He simply doesn’t learn from his mistakes, nor recognizes obvious opportunities to succeed. It’s hard to “look up to” him as a leader of this country and the free world when he makes such clumsy blunders.

  56. #406645
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:14 am, volt200 said:

    believes man controls the weather
    wants a US without borders
    would consider a person who doesn’t value human life as a #2

    Ugh. Is there really a choice in this election.

    The ONLY way I’ll vote for McCain is if he picks a far right conservative AND my state’s polling shows MCCain and Obama in a virtual tie.

  57. #406647
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:16 am, BadIdeaGuy said:

    There are a lot of people like my in-laws who’d probably vote for Democrats if there were no pro-life platform in the GOP, and there are efforts of some to equivocate the (supposed) benefit to the poor of the nanny-state to abortion.

    Could McCain’s advisors be any worse? Oh yeah, I guess if they were like Obama’s…

  58. #406649
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:18 am, henryinga said:

    Let me see if I have this straight. Speakeasy will give away the nation’s security in protest of a pro-choice VP candidate, and is willing to put Barack HUSSEIN Obama in office so that thousands of adults and more babies will die. I don’t understand the logic in that.

  59. #406650
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:20 am, heathermichelle said:

    MtsEdge said: I need to keep reminding myself that a vote for anyone other that McCain is effectively a vote for Obama

    That’s what I worry about. Third parties, for whatever reason, don’t really work in this country. If that’s how you wanna vote, more power to you, but I personally feel it’d be a waste. As much as I dislike McCain, we cannot afford an Obama presidency.

    As much as I understand the desire to want to sit out this election, I still feel obligated to vote, if for no other reason than to try to get actual conservatives in the Senate/House.

  60. #406651
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:20 am, MtsEdge said:

    I will not compromise a baby’s right to live for security.

    Speakeasy, remember Obama’s position on the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. Not to mention his infamous quote about being “burdened with a child.”

  61. #406654
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:23 am, 2theright said:

    I went to the McCain blog, took the time to fill out the contact page. When you click submit, NOTHING HAPPENS ! I tried it several times. Seems they could care less what people think.

  62. #406655
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:23 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    But until we can get EVERYONE to be better educated, better parenets, more responsible with their money, off of drugs, etc… I think it is OK that there is a way for them to limit the burden that a child will bring.

    Until we solve one problem, we are going to need the other.

    MacUser,

    We also have to be realistic. There is no way that “we” can cure the world of all of its ills. However, abortion involves the taking of a life. And that is never acceptable. I don’t deny that children come with additional responsibilities which may at times feel burdensome. However, that is something that needs to be considered prior to engaging in the act that could result in creating that new and separate life.

    There are many ways in which people can limit the “burden” that a child will bring – abstinence, birth control/contraceptives and an overall avoidance of bad decision-making. We are talking about taking another life and the emotional scars it leaves behind. I wish you weren’t so cavalier about this issue.

  63. #406656
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:24 am, MtsEdge said:

    Sent my comment to McCain to please choose a pro-life candidate. No middle ground between life and death.

    I noticed that the “contact us” section of his web page only allows you to choose what type of “question” you are going to pose (incl. donation questions :lol: ) but no comment option…methinks they’re not in “receive” mode for information from the base at all.

  64. #406658
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:25 am, longbow said:

    Everyone keeps saying that McCain is still so much better than the Obamessiah. But is that really true? Why does McCain keep trying to show that he’s not?

    Are either of the two really worthy of your vote? I’m beginning to agree with Joseph Farah at World Net Daily:

    You will hear that failure to vote for one of the two major party candidates in any election is tantamount to “throwing your vote away.” I say voting for an illegitimate and unworthy candidate – one who will not live under the rule of law and abide by the Constitution as a minimal standard – is throwing your vote away.

    From http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=71388

  65. #406660
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:25 am, Daria said:

    MtsEdge,

    The only thing that keeps me (barely) hanging on at this point is our brave and honorable Military. I can’t bear the thought of forcing an arrogant, callow Marxist upon them as Commander-in-Chief.

    I just read over at the Townhall.com blog that odds are still on Romney. I sure hope that’s the case.

  66. #406661
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:27 am, DaveC said:

    Where is Wise_Man stepping up to bat for Maverick..

    I don’t see too many of Johnny Mac’s defenders on this thread..

    wonder why? hmmmmmm.

    wait.. let me save them the trouble of defending the Mav..

    “But the Supreme Court. We have the Supreme Court and Federal Judges to nominate!!”

    again.. history of his behavior..

  67. #406662
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:28 am, conservativesRus said:

    #54 – henryinga

    The logic is this – a predictable enemy (Obama) is much easier to deal with than an unpredictable one (McCain). You have to admit that McCain’s positions are often the enemy.

    I always know what Kennedy, Pelosi, Reid, and Obama will do. I seldom know what McCain will do. McCain’s very words (and actions) say he’s not on the side of life.

  68. #406664
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:30 am, robbi101 said:

    What Daria said!

  69. #406666
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:32 am, flyfisher said:

    McCain isn’t the official nominee until the delegates say he is at the convention. Johnny Mac better get his head right or risk massive chaos at the convention. A certain percentage of the delegates would either walk-out or go rogue and back another candidate.

    Even with a pro-life conservative VP nominee, McCain won’t suddenly be loved by conservatives. If he picks a baby-killer, he will lose enough conservative support to lose the election.

    Does McCain really want to be POTUS?

  70. #406667
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:33 am, FamilyMan said:

    GOD
    What choice do we have?

    sound of head hitting desk

  71. #406668
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:35 am, Elizabetty said:

    I am having a hard enough time wrapping my mind around voting for MCCAIN.

    If he picks a VP as liberal or more liberal than he I know for a fact there will be lawn signs in my yard and no checks sent to the RNC.

  72. #406670
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:36 am, Mister P said:

    Since I won’t vote for Mc Cain anyway, my opinion doesn’t matter.

  73. #406671
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:38 am, Mister P said:

    But until we can get EVERYONE to be better educated, better parenets, more responsible with their money, off of drugs, etc… I think it is OK that there is a way for them to limit the burden that a child will bring.

    So would infanticide also be alright with you?

  74. #406672
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:39 am, RedRepub said:

    Since it’s likely the McCain folks read this blog – let me put this here and make it explicitly clear:

    I WON’T VOTE FOR A PRO-ABORTION POLITICIAN.

    Period.

    Choosing a pro-abortion VP will make you no different than Obama.

    Don’t do it.

    AMEN!!!!
    My main concern is the Supreme Court in this election. I know we’re screwed on all the other issues. I want to at least have strict constructionists on the court.

  75. #406674
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:39 am, davidjamesduprey said:

    After seeing all of this, I’d actually consider going to another country that had better leadership, but couldn’t find any.

    Except for may Georgia, President Saakashvili sounds like a good man, someone who believes in our constitution more than our own elected officials. But now it seems that Georgia may not be long for this world either.

  76. #406673
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:39 am, beenthere said:

    This may be the strongest hint yet that he is going with Lieberman. His campaign would be well to the right on foreign policy (good) and well to the left everywhere else (very bad). The sheer audacity of the choice, if it comes to that, has to leave one breathless, yet I have to wonder if it would accomplish what McCain wants.

    On the one hand, I honestly don’t believe he needs Joe all that much as he already has the base on foreign policy. Clearly the hope would be that independents would go crazy for the combo. Maybe so, but I have to wonder. On the other, the sad fact is that most of the RINOs he has considered don’t come close to Lieberman’s strong pro-American foreign policy.

    So vote for the liberal of your choice this November, but vote. As Steyn cautioned, it really wasn’t terribly likely McCain was going to pick someone we dig.

  77. #406675
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:42 am, MtsEdge said:

    The only thing that keeps me (barely) hanging on at this point is our brave and honorable Military. I can’t bear the thought of forcing an arrogant, callow Marxist upon them as Commander-in-Chief.

    I came of voting age during the Reagan years and proudly cast my first vote in a presidential election for him. Since that time, I have felt less and less enthused about the (R) choices, although I have continued to find reasons to vote for them (esp. when considering the (D) alternative who was running against them).

    McCain has to be the worst ever and hardest for me to justify. If an Obama administration wasn’t such a nightmarish thought, I would definitely vote my conscience. But voting my conscience in this election would mean helping to allow our country to get sucked down the vacuum of socialism and marxism and anti-Americanism. I can’t do that to my children, so I’m more than likely going to hold my breath and vote for McCain. I’ll have to wash my hands afterward, and block out the experience.

  78. #406676
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:43 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Senator McCain often makes me wonder if he wants to be President. I just find it hard to believe the so called professionals around him believe he can get away with a pro-abortion candidate on the ticket. Even the use of the term pro-choice is offensive to many of us.

    Perhaps the Senator and staff feel we have no choice but to vote for him. Sorry Senator but that tactic will not work. I can always leave that box blank.

    I think it is OK that there is a way for them to limit the burden that a child will bring.

    limit the burden= Kill the child
    limit the burden= Kill the elderly
    limit the burden= Kill the unproductive
    limit the burden= Kill the racially inferior
    limit the burden= Kill the geneticly weak

    That one can get away from you real fast, it has been tried before. Read up on Planned Parenthood’s Margret Sanger and her views on racial inferiority.

    All these other problems are true and need to be addressed–murder of the innocents is not the solution.

  79. #406678
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:45 am, long_haired_conservative said:

    “I think that the pro-life position is one of the important aspects or fundamentals of the Republican Party,” McCain told Hayes. “And I also feel that — and I’m not trying to equivocate here — that Americans want us to work together.

    I, for one, do not want the Republicans to “work together” with Democrats. This is a specious argument: it sounds good on the surface, but it translates into surrendering one’s core beliefs in order to “get along.”

    And it’s always the Republican who has to give up something. Did you ever see a Democrat, in the spirit of “working together,” discard a belief that was important to them? It’ll never happen.

    Politics is supposed to be adversarial. I want my party to be out there screaming its defense for its beliefs, not surrendering them.

  80. #406679
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:46 am, HappyGene said:

    I’m upset in the abstract about a pro-death choice, but Tom Ridge is no Lieberman. I be happy with Lieberman running the State Department. Am I s stoopid newbe about Ridge?

  81. #406683
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:49 am, MajorKen said:

    Lieberman is a very strong choice regardless of his abortion stance. Likewise, picking a female (perhaps Michelle Malkin) would reach out to women voters. I am pro-life but supporting my position at the expense of the Whitehouse is not a good idea.

  82. #406685
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:52 am, Misscheryl said:

    John McCain banks on his Maverick persona. Honestly, I think that is first and foremost with him and that’s what he wants to be identified by. Every thing else is secondary! So, ultimately nothing is set in stone with him unless it will vie into this image – then he’ll stop at nothing to fulfill that. Rather self destructive if you ask me.

  83. #406687
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:54 am, Regulus said:

    A question: has everyone who has posted criticisms of possibly having a “pro-choice” VP candidate sent a similar note to McCain’s campaign? If not, why not?

    The available circumstantial evidence strongly suggests that Michelle does not have the ear of John McCain. I doubt that he reads her blog; it’s a safe bet he doesn’t lurk the comments. So if the man is toying with a foolish idea and you want to influence his thinking, it’s helpful to bring the cluebat to a forum where he’ll likely be.

    McCain is still chasing Hillary’s “PUMA” supporters. It’s a calculated risk: if he can split Hillary’s minions and get a decent chunk of them to cross over or stay home, then Hopenchange is toast.

    But the conservatives can break, too. The calculation behind the risk has to be how to crack the PUMAs without fracturing the conservatives.

    Otherwise, abortion as an issue is on the B-List as far as I’m concerned. I’m against Roe v. Wade in the sense that it’s a poorly reasoned yet perfect specimen of legislating from the bench. It’s also a clarion-call warning of where we’ll end up if the “Living, Breathing Constitution” becomes the Court’s guiding philosophy.

    The issue of abortion should be left to the states to decide for themselves.

    My main concern is the presidential candidate’s abortion viewpoint, not his veep pick’s. I find it difficult to imagine McCain asking his VP to tell him what to think about abortion (or anything else, for that matter).

    The veep’s viewpoint is significant if one is counting on McCain not finishing his first term, but that’s a different subject.

  84. #406689
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:55 am, Savage24 said:

    I wonder if McCain is really working for the Obama campaign. He seems to get more idiotic every day.

  85. #406691
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:56 am, Misscheryl said:

    oh yeah, and one more thing – John McCain isn’t about “doing things the acceptable way,” i.e., his previous marriage, affair and remarriage. That’s what is so scary about him. Nothing is more sacred to him than being a “maverick.” That’s the agenda he serves. Him or Obama – we’re TOAST in ‘08.

  86. #406692
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:57 am, FamilyMan said:

    McCain
    If your reading this blog WHAT THE HELL ARE YOUR THINKING??????????????????
    There is a voting block of over 50 million conservatives who beleive in
    THE RULE OF LAW
    SMALL GOVERNMENT
    THE FREE MARKET
    THE SOVEREIGNTY OF THIS COUNTRY
    THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL
    GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  87. #406693
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:57 am, CantCureStupid said:

    At this stage of the game, the only issues that have me in the McCain column are national defense (although his idiotic immigration stance makes him untrustworthy) and the appointment of judges to the federal bench. Otherwise I don’t trust this guy as far as I can throw him. My ‘McCain 2008′ barf bag is at the ready for 04 November.

    I’m really beginning to wonder about the legitimacy of this candidacy, though, because it seems to me that McCain is doing his best to loose in a landslide. The man is deranged if he thinks he can pull off a victory without strong conservative support, and yet his mission in life seems to be to tell conservatives to go screw themselves. I was disgusted when he was nominated, and he has done nothing to encourage me to adjust my attitude. This ‘up-yours-conservatives’ move of his is just the latest insult.

  88. #406695
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:57 am, Elizabetty said:

    If McCain picks a pro-abortion VP his nickname will change from “Maverick” to “May Have a Wreck” as he will surely loses his base.

  89. #406697
    On August 14th, 2008 at 9:58 am, stevevvs said:

    Go with the Constitution Party, this guy isn’t worth your time or vote.

  90. #406700
    On August 14th, 2008 at 10:00 am, b-cat said:

    Long_Hair, I’m with you. “Working together” is getting so worn it’s threadbare and makes me cringe everytime I hear it anymore.

  91. #406703
    On August 14th, 2008 at 10:01 am, Misscheryl said:

    MajorKen said:
    Lieberman is a very strong choice regardless of his abortion stance. Likewise, picking a female (perhaps Michelle Malkin) would reach out to women voters. I am pro-life but supporting my position at the expense of the Whitehouse is not a good idea.

    Major, just a little correction here. I wouldn’t vote for a woman simply because she’s a woman, nor would I vote for a candidate because they are white.

  92. #406706
    On August 14th, 2008 at 10:02 am, davidjamesduprey said:

    I intend to call McCain’s offices tonight as well as a write a letter to McCain about my problems with him as our candidate.

    I will let him know that my “issues” with him can be mollified if he picks a true conservative as VP and eventually for his cabinet.

    Otherwise, he will not have my support nor money.

  93. #406707
    On August 14th, 2008 at 10:02 am, MtsEdge said:

    My main concern is the presidential candidate’s abortion viewpoint, not his veep pick’s. I find it difficult to imagine McCain asking his VP to tell him what to think about abortion (or anything else, for that matter).

    What’s revealing to me about the VP pick is that it is an extension of the presidential candidate’s way of thinking, perhaps an alter ego or a position that they themselves are too cowardly to own. They may not be influenced by the VP as much as the VP may reflect their true way of thinking.

  94. #406708
    On August 14th, 2008 at 10:03 am, bit_boy said:

    Is not Lieberman the cast about pro-leftwing McSwish is searching for. Or would such be too politically incestuous. Would not Lieberman infuriate the crats and conservatives(R), both(I think he likes it). A McSwish political bride made in heaven.

  95. #406712
    On August 14th, 2008 at 10:08 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    I, for one, do not want the Republicans to “work together” with Democrats. This is a specious argument: it sounds good on the surface, but it translates into surrendering one’s core beliefs in order to “get along.”

    Bingo! The Republicans lost the majority in both houses because they couldn’t find the cojones to act like winners. They lost their conservative compass and squandered a golden opportunity to ‘do the right thing’ on judicial appointments, spending, border security, and a host of other issues.

    My main concern is the presidential candidate’s abortion viewpoint, not his veep pick’s. I find it difficult to imagine McCain asking his VP to tell him what to think about abortion (or anything else, for that matter).

    ‘Zactly! Plus, the war on Islamic terror and Supreme court appointments can’t be left to Obamessiah. I’ve already picked out the red clothespin I’m wearing on my nose election day.

  96. #406718
    On August 14th, 2008 at 10:10 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    My thoughts on that…

    Simple… do that Mr. McCain.. and I will have left your tent.

    You’ve abandoned way too many other conservative principles (immigration law, campaign finance law and of course giving deference to libs rather than your own party) …under the misguided belief that by doing so, you’re reeling in the “center” of the country…as well as “getting things done in a bi-partisan way”.

    All you’ve done is cast yourself as more in-line with liberal goal than you are with conservative principles. Plus you’ve caved in on principles that are important to us. And caved in easily I might add.

    Want to be a real Maverick???? …grow a pair ….then stand on and defend your party’s principles… for once…

  97. #406722
    On August 14th, 2008 at 10:12 am, ajmontana said:

    davidjamesduprey said:
    I intend to call McCain’s offices tonight as well as a write a letter to McCain about my problems with him as our candidate.

    I will let him know that my “issues” with him can be mollified if he picks a true conservative as VP and eventually for his cabinet.

    Otherwise, he will not have my support nor money.

    been there done that until I’m blue in the face, He’s seems to be turning a deaf ear.

  98. #406726
    On August 14th, 2008 at 10:13 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    MtsEdge said:

    What’s revealing to me about the VP pick is that it is an extension of the presidential candidate’s way of thinking, perhaps an alter ego or a position that they themselves are too cowardly to own. They may not be influenced by the VP as much as the VP may reflect their true way of thinking.

    That…is an excellent point.

  99. #406727
    On August 14th, 2008 at 10:15 am, MajorKen said:

    Missy,
    I wouldn’t vote for a woman simply because she’s a woman, nor would I vote for a candidate because they are white.

    I agree with that people should not vote based on sex or gender…

    but the fact is this election will be won or lost on gender and race issues thanks to an uninformed electorate. We are stuck with John McCain and sitting out this election is a terrible idea because it will take 50 years to reverse the damage of an Obama Presidency. We are very close to having a conservative court and McCain’s appointees will be neutral in a worst-case scenario while Obama’s will be horrific. We have to be a little pragmatic and take deals we can live with rather than throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Obama is the Left of NARAL and has promised to sign a bill (perhaps he will issue an executive order if necessary) to make Partial Birth Abortion legal in every state.

  100. #406730
    On August 14th, 2008 at 10:17 am, b-cat said:

    At this stage of the game, the only issues that have me in the McCain column are national defense (although his idiotic immigration stance makes him untrustworthy) and the appointment of judges to the federal bench. Otherwise I don’t trust this guy as far as I can throw him.

    As far as the bench is concerned, remember the gang of 14?

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