McCain meets with Big Windy
John McCain met with T. Boone Pickens yesterday to hear the Big Wind sales pitch. Hey, why should Nancy Pelosi have all the Boone-doggly fun?
T. Boone Pickens was waiting for John McCain in a small conference room at the Aspen Meadows Resort, where the two, according to Pickens, were going to be “talking about the Pickens plan.”
“We’re going to have a good visit,” he added.
Pickens, a famous oilman and one of America’s richest men, is now pushing a plan to drop the United States’ dependence on foreign oil and focus more on alternative energies including wind and natural gas. He said it had been two years since he had last met with McCain.
McCain entered the room alongside his campaign’s senior adviser Steve Schmidt and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C. and greeted Pickens, who was dressed in a green blazer and tan pants with no tie.
“You’re looking trim,” Pickens told McCain as they engaged in some small talk. Pickens mentioned yesterday’s Census article in a newspaper about how non-Hispanic whites would no longer be the majority in 2042.
“You and I won’t have to worry about that,” Pickens said jokingly, referring to the age of the two men.
Ho-ho-ho.
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Cha-ching!!!!$!
Nothing like a pair of windbags meeting to generate some hot air. Don’t they realize that will only contribute to global warming?
Al Gore, call your office!
T. Boone should have brought one of his windmills with him…those 2 could light up the Rockies.
McAmnesty responded, “NOT IF I CAN HELP IT. I’ll make that a reality by 2009
Laughing about not being around to be held accountable for the extinction of the American civilization. Cool. I’d like to put a boot up their grommets.
Is T Boone in this for money? Yes. Was Drake in it for money when he popped the first well in PA? Yes. Will the guy that invents a way to get energy from water and some funky catalyst be in it for the money? Yes. THIS is what drives innovation in our country. I say, you go. T. Boone. Keep congress out of it. If it works, we win. If not, the next innovative ideas come along…meanwhile drill here, drill now, coal to gas, solar, geothermal, tide, all of the above.
Why would racial makeup be a concern or worry in the first place?
Wind can’t replace oil.
You read something like this and you wonder: does McCain really want to win? All I can say is the more it seems possible for him to win, the more he seems determined to sabotage himself.
So let’s hear what the McCain supporters have to say. Seriously.
Graham? Good grief. I’m sure T.Boone knows a sucker when he sees one.
The thing is that T Boone wants 10 Billion, with a B, dollars of taxpayer money for his scheme. If the market will support it, with out taxpayers doing so, I say go for it!
’nuff said.
T. Boone’s idea of stealing $5 billion of California (where I live) taxpayers’ money to fund his pet project in TX for personal gain is not my idea of “innovation”.
If his idea is so great, why doesn’t he self-fund it? Or better yet, get the rest of his friends along with venture capitalists to fund it for him?
Hmmmmmmmm?????????????
Not quite – static electricity…
I have a 5 year old son and a 1 year old daughter. I don’t want to leave problems for them to solve. I want to leave the world better for them.
I’m not saying that Hispanics are a problem. I am saying, though, that illegal aliens are a problem that I want to solve so they won’t need to.
This is correct… he is on the record saying that government subsidies for these programs of his will be required “forever” for his plan to work. This is not free market anything.
I’m counting 3, AG. I don’t know as much about Schmidt but you can usually tell a lot about a guy by the company he keeps.
Let’s see. 10 billion will build 2 nuclear power plants and generate 250 times as much as Pickens big wind. Hmmmm sounds right to me.
That also.
There’s the rub: i want congress out of his scheme. Let him fund it himself. If He believes in his own project he can pony up 2 Billion of his 3 Billion net worth, and “show me”.
Because starry-eyed politicians are like putty in the hands of people like Pickens. What better way to fund a speculative venture than by suckering fawning pols to generously provide somone else’s money – the taxpayer.
T.Boone Pickens is doing some Bone Picken with the candidates?
What is Lindsey Graham selling?
Taxpayer money for subsidies. The next step is nationalization of wind.
His soul.
windmills+congress=cheap energy
You T. Boone supporters should note that he didn’t get rich by risking his own money. It’s always somebody else’s, whether through bank loans or government subsidies.
nationalize wind
oil
water
co2
land
ETC.
Russian tanks are within 15 miles of Tbilisi and this is what has you all outraged, Michelle?
I am very disappointed. I thought you were one who could cut through the crap and see what’s important.
Looks as if I was wrong about that.
MrScribbler, Michelle can walk and chew gum at the same time, too.
MrScribbler,
Russia and US energy are linked and the Russia/Georgia crisis ought to be highlighting the importance of a sane US energy policy.
Lindsay Graham is bucking for Attorney General in a McCain administration. He’s a RINO like McCain. Or rather, both are closer to the politics of their good buddy Lieberman.
Wonder if Boone will let them in on the ground floor of his “energy” company. Nancy shouldn’t get all the perks.
had to fix it for you
This meeting was about T. Boone Pickens hedging his political bet in the hopes of getting taxpayers to fund his money-making project regardless of who gets elected.
MrScribbler. Despite the carnage in Georgia… I had lunch today.
Nancy P. – invested in
Picken’s scheme..
wields her influences and power…
as Speaker..
to wrest the $$$ from you and me…
She gets wealthy(er)..
So does he..
Using my $$$$
with impunity…..
Responded McCain, “Yeah, I know. If my plan hadn’t been upset by the racists in my party we’d be there by 2010.”
Snake oil.
LOL Hawkeye54.
Or – more to the point:
Picken’s scheme
with Nancy P.
using the $$$$ of
you and me…..
Sounds like a giant popcorn fart to me.
Actually, oil creates wind.
Don’t believe? Don’t take my word for it,test it…
Just eat a big bucket of chicken….
AND
I thought current thinking was that the “mastermind” of the Gang of 10, old Sen Fill Shamnesty Hisself had “backstabbed” McCarbonTax with his Gang of
BootlicksEnlightened Statesman. What gives?If we will just keep our tires inflated we won’t need any windmills.
That’s Pickens’ other plan. He wants to burn Mexicans for fuel.
Let’s keep it just a little real around here. Virtually every new technology, industry, etc. in this country was assisted by government via subsidies, tax breaks, various incentives, etc., including the oil industry. The free market is clearly the best and most efficient economic system known to man, but it is not perfect and requires partnership from government from time to time, especially where overwhelming amounts of capital investment are necessary.
Great article on Obama’s energy plans.
Excerpt: “OBAMA PROMISES as well “to call on business, government and the American people to meet the goal of reducing our demand for electricity 15 percent by the end of the next decade.”
I want to know how this is going to be achieved given the fact that our populaiton will reach over 400 Million according to the Census Bureau. Obama supports amnesty AND a decrease in energy use? Lower standard of living for all!
Mused Pickens, “If windpower
can get Pelosi and McCain
to part with taxpayer change,
just wait ’til I tell ‘em
what I can do with rain.”:)
dakine — let’s not forget that sometimes people use government subsidies to bail themselves out of potentially damaging financial decisions. Not to mention he’s using elected representatives to push his agenda through by having them invest in his company like Ms. Pelosi has – proud sponsor of the most ethical congress ever.
For most.
Solar and aind have been subsidized for decades. They are quite simply not competitive. The global warming freaks and their fellow eco-Marxists just loathe capitalism and the energy that powers it.
That’s right, some (pigs) are more equal than others.
dakine – #44
I don’t believe that to be true. In fact – most successful industries did so with no government “help”. Only when gov’t gets involved in any way, has there been a need for further intrusion. The free market will do just fine on it’s own. Further – I’m a little puzzled why a bunch of (primarily) lawyers in Washington DC are better at picking out winning and losing technologies than consumers. You have to admit the track record of Washington DC in picking winning things has been rather abysmal.
Lower standard of living for all!
Not really. He supports a lower standard of living for you, not for illegals.
It used to be that the only technologies that the government invested in was military. Now are they not only making technology investments with tax-payer dollars(with no dividend returns) but mandating which technologies the private sector will use, like digital broadcasting and screwy mercury light bulbs.
Pickens census comments are pathetic. I don’t have a problem with anyone who is here LEGALLY regardless of ethnicity. I do take exception to the Census Bureau’s preoccupation with hispanics and hyphenated american categories. I AM 100% AMERICAN AND NOTHING ELSE. The census form lists: not spanish/hispanic/latino; yes- mexican, mexican amer, chicano; peurto Rican; Cuban; or one can list another separate hispanic group. Collecting all this race data is for pandering, pandering and pandering!
Dude, If you go to Michelle’s other site hotair.com you will find the subject covered in two separate listings. I think thats adequate and in perspective.
Fixed it for you.
MrScribbler said:
Russian tanks are within 15 miles of Tbilisi and this is what has you all outraged, Michelle?
The sky is falling, the sky is falling.
I don’t mind but I disagree.
How about:
windmills+windbags=cheap energy
Of course, windbags=congress
I agree. Where would we be without all of those $40 coupons for TV converters. TV would just go away. Thanks Uncle Sam!
Deport all immigrant, their children and their grand children and energy problem would be solved.
hmmmm Pickens didn’t worry about wind power decades ago when he was making billions…as soon as the oil dried up in TX, he had an epiphany and decided only he could save the world with wind. I don’t mind if you want to make more money, but just be upfront with it.
I hope he told McCain drill every we can domestically onshore and offshore,ANWR,Colorado,North Dakota like I heard him tell Sean Hannity we should do. Now more than ever we need to lower our dependence on foreign oil.
If the government could predict the future we wouldn’t be in the mess they helped create now.
ick…
“HOW TO LOSE AN ELECTION”
BY
JOHN MCCAIN
Push amnesty for illegals, kiss up to Ted Kennedy, get in bed with Feingold, flirt with the Pickens/Pelosi Wind Trust, and waver on the abortion issue. But most especially, pick Leiberman or Ridge for my Veep.
Ah, that ought to about sink the old Titanic
I heard a rumor that you can get Oil from boiling down the blubber of whales. This could be great for the New England Economy. We should start sending out ships that slaughter whales and put the Oil in barrels. Anyone think this might work? We have an Island called Nantucket that needs a boost to it’s economy. I think this could work.
We can start by harpooning Ted Kennedy. That should heat my home for at least a year. Michael Moore could heat one or two more.
Michelle, that pic of the windmill with one of its blades broken off really cracks me up. I love it.
Wow, TBone “Slim” is meeting with McCain. Hmmmm.
Well, if McCain comes out of the meeting with a sullen deer-in-the-headlights look, then we know that TBone “Slim” has indoctronated (read: assimilated) him into the hive.
Nice to hear that I am going to become a minority sometime soon. I guess now I can hit the welfare office, or get preferrential treatment through affirmative action. Or, will they deny me that because my color is the reason why the world sucks.
And more of this quickly follows with McCain spending at least a weekend publicly confessing his eco-sins to Global Warming High Priest Ricky Warren and The One.
T-Boone is just trying to cash in anyway he can..it doesn’t mean anything good will come out of it for us.
HEY-HEY-HEY People come on. Is the IDEA of WIND POWER THAT BAD??? I say Let’s DRILL, DRILL and DRILL then LAY SOME PIPE and let that pipe run right to the NEWEST REFINERIES in thw WORLD here at HOME in THE USA!!!!!! But I also say let’s BUILD THEN THEIR WIND MILL’S on the LAND and in THE WATER out by TEDDIES PALS PLACE… I also get themtheir solar power pannels un anywhere we can and on top of that BUILD SOME NEW NEC PLANTS and tell the WORLD GO TO well you know… It will be nothing be a benafit to the furture generations of this country to get as free from ARAB OIL, RUSSIAN oil and HUGOS OIL. Not to mention with the mess we are leaving them with SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDACAID, MEDACARE, and the NATIONAL DEBT this is the VERY LEAST WE CAN DO. And yes we need to keep the GOVERNMENTS HANDS OUT OF THIS AS MUCH AS WE CAN but, the fact is the CONGRESS has made themselves all powerfull and we have left them unchecked in this power so we will have to deal with these sobs at every turn in the road with there hands out like the TOLL BOOTHS in FLORIDA heck maybe they will come with some like SUNPASS for there payments…..
HEY-HEY-HEY People come on. Is the IDEA of WIND POWER THAT BAD??? I say Let’s DRILL, DRILL and DRILL then LAY SOME PIPE and let that pipe run right to the NEWEST REFINERIES in thw WORLD here at HOME in THE USA!!!!!! But I also say let’s BUILD THEN THEIR WIND MILL’S on the LAND and in THE WATER out by TEDDIES PALS PLACE… I also get themtheir solar power pannels un anywhere we can and on top of that BUILD SOME NEW NEC PLANTS and tell the WORLD GO TO well you know… It will be nothing be a benafit to the furture generations of this country to get as free from ARAB OIL, RUSSIAN oil and HUGOS OIL. Not to mention with the mess we are leaving them with SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDACAID, MEDACARE, and the NATIONAL DEBT this is the VERY LEAST WE CAN DO. And yes we need to keep the GOVERNMENTS HANDS OUT OF THIS AS MUCH AS WE CAN but, the fact is the CONGRESS has made themselves all powerfull and we have left them unchecked in this power so we will have to deal with these sobs at every turn in the road with there hands out like the TOLL BOOTHS in FLORIDA heck maybe they will come with some like SUNPASS for there payments…..
THERE IT IS, THERE IT IS!
Those pigs are in it for THEMSELVES!
If there was EVER a question that holes like Pickens and McAmnesty are evil people.. there it is!
I HATE McAmnesty!!!
If you remeber the 70′s movie Gumball Rally you will recall the line that McAmnesty is living by as he destroys America with Mexicans:
“The first rule of Italian racing is,what’s behind me is not important.”
There is an estimated 1.2 million MW of harvestable wind in the US. Currently the US gets roughly 18,000 MW electricity from wind or 0.7% of it’s total energy production. T. Boone wants the US to get that number up to 20% or 515,000 MW.
That translates to buku dollars.
Do a quick CBR analysis in your head vs. the amount of money we’re giving to the Arabs.
McCain is as principled as the last person he talked with.
Reaching across thje aisle is not without its benefits.
Watch out for wind to be a major plank in McCain’s energy policy.
But can wind produce plastic containers?
Can wind produce machine lubricants?
Can wind produce plastic credit cards?
Can wind produce your swimming pool liner?
Can wind produce your belt, purse, wallet, portfolio?
Can wind produce the elastic in your underwear?
Can wind produce the casing that contains your computer? Your keyboard? Your mouse?
Jus’ sayin’……..
Remember this, all you stupid Republitards..
When you say: “So you’ll stay home and let Obama get elected because you are pissed off?:
Remember what these old goats think about you:
“You and I won’t have to worry about that,”
They don’t care about the future, why in the hell should anyone else…???
I say spend our money wisely, not just for a very few to get rich from my tax money.
Are you assuming wind power will provide a reasonable return on investment, say -10% maybe??
Why if this was such a money maker doesn’t Pickins and Polosi invest a few tens of their many hundreds of millions???
When the technology shows a reasonable return on investment I will invest with them.
I must repeat: lets invest our money wisely, not just to make a very few rich much richer on our tax monies!!
Gosh, I don’t know. Maybe we should visit Mexico or Africa or Chicago….or even my old home town of Helena/West Helena, Arkansas, for a better idea?
Talk about p*$$*ng into the wind
Fair point I guess allrsn. I’m not an expert and I don’t know if wind power is worth the type of private/public investment I referred to in my prior post. We’ll see. My point is simply that historically the kind of massive innovation we’re talking about has required a partnership between private industry and government.
cRus, you’re just wrong. I don’t have the time or inclination to link you to the applicable sources, but almost every major innovation in industry and technology in this country was the result of a private/public partnership. A bit like R&D I will admit, in that there have been misses (and maybe wind will end up being one of these), but that’s the nature of the beast. Go back and do a little research on industries such as oil, rail, aerospace, etc. Intellectual honesty my man.
Yeah, even if the country goes to hell by then, at least I won’t have to hear either of these two morons in 2042.
Gotta look on the bright side.
A big fat NO
It can’t even produce my aluminum case for my computer, by the way the best invesment on a computer component I’ve ever made, it’s went up in value
We have oil… I want it to drive my F150…
When I am dead, you can burn my body for fuel….
“Soylent Green is PEOPLE!”
Pathetic. A story gets posted where McCain met with someone and the Pavlovian response: “You read something like this and you wonder: does McCain really want to win?”
What did he do by meeting with Mr. Pickens that would signify that he had either done something wrong or that he didn’t want to win? A rhetorical question of course. I don’t expect a rational answer here any more.
Pickens owns the largest wind farm in the country, so him saying we need to switch to wind power is like believing Pepsi when they say we need to drink more soda or dominos telling us more pizza consumption is needed.
1) I am not wrong
2) I do not need new links or sources
Integrated Gasification Combined Cycle (IGCC) is the cleanest currently-operational coal-fired electricity generation technology. FutureGen is an experimental U.S. research project to investigate the possibility of sequentering IGCC CO2 emissions underground.
This is where the future’s at. Now I have a feeling Pickens is aiming high so the total percentage of wind is around 7% to 10%, maybe less.
Why put that much money into wind when we have the largest coal reserves in the world. Granted we have the second largest wind reserves in the world; a quick guess makes me think Picken’s Plan will add 170,000 – 200,000 windmills to the US landscape.
Farmers will make tons in royalties.
2:16 p.m. EDT Aug. 15, 2008
DALLAS, Aug 15, 2008 (BUSINESS WIRE) — Below is a statement issued by T. Boone Pickens following his meeting this morning with U.S. Senator John McCain (R-AZ) in Aspen, Colorado:
So McCain heard him out, so will Obama. Lets see if “little windy” makes an issue out of it when he meets with obama.
CBS reporting, always the important stuff.
What, no shirt?
Well he is looking out for the TV weathercaters too, not just himself, Nero. We’ll need to check the local weather ever morn to see if there’s a breeze so we can cook breakfast and drive in to work.
On the plus side, that means more healthy people since we’ll lose pounds in skipping cooked meals and having to walk to/from work on days the weather’s calm.
I don’t think anybody figures McCain is campaigning to lose but rather he does not know how to campaign to win.
Fortunately for him his major opponent is also mighty clueless. So, with that, the hope is it may come down to which one does the last dumb thing. I’m not sure if I’m more amazed or amused by the respective ongoing comedies of errors.
The good news for McCain is that he may be within striking distance. The bad news is that when he does work up the gumption to strike, it’s usually hazy or off target.
On the positive side at least McCain didn’t take this opportunity to announce he was considering selecting a cross-dressing Ambassador to the UN to throw off the hostile nations when s/he shows up one day as Jane and the next as Joe.
Our vast coal resorces can also be cheaply turned into methonal. as can our garbage (already is in fl). No need to DESTROY our food chain!!
Rating – 2*
I’m glad both candidates are meeting with Pickens.
He’s been proposing to use more natural gas as an energy source – for over 20 years -so the question is – why has it taken so long for anyone to take him seriously.
Beenthere #9
Because I’m voting for McCain does not necessarily mean I’m supporting him.
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I’m just wondering what half of Boone’s snake oil McCain is gonna get suckered into?
On August 16th, 2008 at 12:24 am, purplepeep said:
So was meeting with the rich guy in the hopes of shaking him down, just like the obamamessiah is going to do somehow indicative of McCain not campaigning to win? Only here.
The
RussiansSoviets are actually petrified of the prospect of Rudy Giuliani being nominated Americas ambassador to the UN.Bill, as a general rule elections are decided by how candidates differ.
Here is an article abut the wind farm they put up a few years back in my home town.
Strange to see my little Lowville on the front page of Yahoo right now.
They both were seen holding the same baby as well. Because of that I expect that the argument could be made that they are the same person…