Texas teachers can pack heat
I think this is good news: School campuses in one Texas district will no longer be self-protection-free zones. The district has approved rule changes allowing teachers to carry guns:
When classes start Aug. 25 in the tiny Harrold school district, there will be one distinct difference from years prior: Some of the teachers may have guns.
To deter and protect against school shootings, trustees have altered district policy to allow employees to carry concealed weapons if they have a state permit and permission from the administration. The 110-student district lies 150 miles northwest of Fort Worth on the eastern end of Wilbarger County, near the Oklahoma border.
More than a dozen state legislatures have considered making it legal to carry guns on college campuses, but experts and officials contacted by the Star-Telegram say the move is unheard of in elementary or secondary schools.
Superintendent David Thweatt said a main concern was that the small community is a 30-minute drive from the sheriff’s office, leaving students and teachers without protection.
‘To be prepared’
The district’s lone campus sits 500 feet from heavily trafficked U.S. 287, which could make it a target, Thweatt said.
Other security measures are in place, including one-way access to enter the school, state-of-the-art surveillance cameras and electric locks on doors. But after the Virginia Tech massacre and the Amish school shooting in Pennsylvania, Thweatt felt he had to take further action, he said.
“When the federal government started making schools gun-free zones, that’s when all of these shootings started,” Thweatt said. “Why would you put it out there that a group of people can’t defend themselves? That’s like saying ’sic ’em’ to a dog.”
Now, that’s an “example for the nation.”
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Can I enroll my children there? Do ya think they’d send a bus up here for them? I know then no brats will come shoot that school up, at least not without teachers shooting back.
Liberals can gripe all they want, but look what happens now when NO ONE is around to shoot back.
This is good stuff.
Leave it to a Texan to state the obvious.
The punishment for cutting class just went WAAAAYYY up!!!. But seriously, it wouldn’t hurt to have a few teachers with guns to prevent another school shooting.
God Bless Texas.
Positive step in the right direction. The day I can carry concealed on a college campus will be a great day indeed. Until then I guess I’ll have to take any future Spanish classes after work with just the limited means of protection I have been carrying.
This kind of leadership was long overdue. It’s just common sense.
You can bet everything you own that the Brady Bunch and their liberal friends will be working overtime to to smear Superintendent Thweatt and concoct some new way to enforce their stupid gun-free zones cr*pola.
Agreed. A public school with the right priorities — protecting children from the dangers of political correctness.
Here’s an interesting query: If abstinence supporters are to blame for the increase in pregnancy, STDs, and the rise of AIDS in Africa…can’t gun-control supporters be blamed for increased violence?
Has Mr Thweatt considered running for a House or Senate seat?
I would send $$$ to halp “jump start” his campaign…
I am serious about this..
We need Constitutionally minded individuals to run…
…help ….
It seems to work in places like Israel as a deterent to mass shootings. It will probably work here too.
I’ll bet Paul Helmke is getting worried that there won’t be blood in the streets, because soon people will know he is just fear mongering.
Amen, b-cat. Texas, OK, Montana, Wyoming… they’re going to be the new heart of America as the forces of collectivist socialism are bannished from America.
Now if only South Carolina & the south would follow suit…
johnsteele, you are absolutely right, no way they will take this without a fight. That is why the NRA is so important.
If was that close to Oklahoma, I’d be packing heat too. (Relax Oklahomans….)
Tennessee isn’t doing too bad, either.
On August 15th, 2008 at 4:15 pm,
You are assuming liberals use logic, a serious mistake.
And the entire 9th circuit cr@pped their robes.
When you get to the nitty gritty, it is the feds who own the government schools. Lets see how long till they squash this.
I love everything about Texas! And I live in Massachusetts. What a great country Texas is.
With all the gangs we have here in S TX in and around schools, this is a good idea. The ‘no gun or drug zone’ here around schools is a joke. Both are everywhere. Might make some ‘gang member’ think twice.
L
Ok, that’s not really fair, Ansell.
First of all, thank goodness Texas and my glorious state aren’t in the 9th.
Second, there are some 30-odd justices on the 9th circuit (it is the busiest in the nation), and only about 1/3 of them are left-wing, collectivist, fascist wacko-attackos. That’s about par for modern America, in my experience.
Awesome.
I have friends who are teachers and they tell horror stories about both legal and illegal kids in schools…throwing things at them, biting them (the younger ones), flipping them off, name calling, and the parents don’t take kindly to their little johnny or juanita being called exactly what they are stupid and disruptive….schools are not the safe place they were when I grew up…I fear for my grandchildren’s safety and future..
I used to live in the El Paso area, later Houston. I now live in VA but often consider a Texas return. I like Tennessee, too. Virginia is almost gone now.
Well! Liberals will not stand for this outrage! They shall soon enter attack mode to tell us all that Texans are of below average intelligence and obviously should have been aborted! No rational person would ever consider allowing legal guns in a school zone; why something bad might happen. Remember, guns cause people to kill!
As if we need another reason to love Michelle, she beats see-dubya to the punch – a gun thread!!!
You think there will be a bazillion lawyers headed there to file the same three complaints?
I thought it was Michelle Malkin that causes people to kill.
This is brilliant!!! Common sense in government, who’d have thought?
Actually, John, I’ll bet right now the 9th Circus Court is determining a way to overturn this by fiat, from the bench, without a lawsuit being filed.
I’m sure they’re warming up their “guns kill das folk und ve muss ban dem” rhetoric.
Fortunately, Texas isn’t within the jurisdiction of the 9th circus.
Any appeal would be heard by the 5th circuit, Which is one of only 2 circuit courts (to date) to have upheld the 2nd ammendment as an individual right.
I hope this is a nationwide movement and other schools soon follow. My Fiancee is a substitute teacher in Omaha and there are days she is frightened to death. She refuses to teach in north Omaha, if someone from Omaha reads this they will accuse me of being racist for saying north Omaha but……it’s true.
Do not tempt the wrath of Darth Malkin…
Makes me want to become a substitute teacher.
My wifes sister left teaching because she was almost raped in class. She worked in central California. Need I mention that the kid was from a place a little further south? and was alcking certian paperwork?
No prizes..
alcking = lacking
I love the “guns kill” mantra. Most objects in schools can be used to kill if used effectively.
“Sporks kill!”
“Non-safety compasses kill!”
“Sharpened #2 pencils kill!”
“Dull #2 pencils kill!”
I don’t even want to think of the carnage that could be caused in Wood Shop.
Geez. The 9th Circ doesn’t have jurisdiction over any part of Texas. Texas is 5th circuit.
OMGa pointy STICK!!!!
Yeah, I know.
But I clearly remember another thread, and how liberals always say that stuff like sex education makes people “informed” users of “safe” sex.
So why can’t responsible gun ownership teach them how to be “safe” users “informed” of their Second Amendment rights?
But again – I’m using logic…silly me.
I’m all for this, but at the same saddened how it’s become a necessity to keep kids safe. In my time, outside of the home, school was one of the safest places for a kid to be. (Unless you didn’t do your homework, of course.)
Usually the worst the rare schoolyard fight ever yielded was a bloody nose, then it was off to the Principal’s office. A “dialogue” with peeved parents was to follow.
Hell when I went to school in New Zeland, you could still cane the children. Nothing restores disapline faster that a 4 foot peice of bamboo.
I thought it was Michelle Malkin that causes people to kill.
With just a thought, Michelle can crush ya like a gnat. Be very afraid.
Hey I just heard that dimwit Dean called the Republican party the “white party” WOW, talk about racist.
sonofdy,
I have a friend that is a nurse at a schoo here and she says she has to have another person be with her when she does almost anything but take a temp on a child. No one now can get within a ‘4 foot’ of a child to touch a child to disapline a kid now days.
L
I went to private school in the ’80’s in Southern California, and my mother gladly signed the consent form to allow the principal to whack my bum with a paddle whenever I stepped on myself. If I got whacked at school, I was getting it when I got home, too. You know what? I didn’t grow up to be a reprobate. Can’t imagine why.
Agreed. But in Texas, though, I presume.
I remember when the police at our school finally got to carry guns (before, it was just handcuffs and pepper spray). There were definitely people who freaked out about it, but, as the police pointed out, it wasn’t so much because of the kids, but because of the crazy parents.
When I was in grade school, there was one particular parent (whose children, of course, never did anything wrong *eyeroll*) who called the phone company and had teachers’ phone numbers changed, or would slash tires, or post their houses in the newspaper as being for sale…she was a vengeful creature, for sure.
Here, Sclawstudent. Where do you think the 9th will stand on that case?
They still do caning with regularity in San Francisco schools. Of course there it’s a part of their standard elementary school Sex Ed curriculum.
This is awesome! I can’t wait for Tennessee to follow suit. So far it hasn’t been killed in any committee, but it’s not moving fast enough. I teach in Memphis and you don’t have to reside here to know what it’s like since our illustrious school system has been on the national news so many times this year. Heck, I can’t even use my conceal carry permit most of the time since I can’t have my gun on school property. Kudos to this TX school district!!
Hey, maybe this will bring prayer back into the schools. The
thugsmommies dearest will be praying that the teach, won’t pop a cap in that a$$That was the rule at our house when I was in school, although that was before the “publick scrools” stopped with the paddle.
Texas.. a week of winter & 300 days of sunshine….GOD BLESS TEXAS!!!
This one time a kid got mouthy in history class, the teacher took him to another room and gave him 10 wacks. We could hear all ten. Not one single problem for the rest of the year. Not one. There is a reason New Zealand kids graduate at 16 with a higher standard than American kids have at 18.
We never had a cane in my school but we had what was called “the board of education” it was a 1×4 pine board with holes drilled in it so it would move faster through the air on it way to our butts while we held onto our ankles (theres not much dignity in that position either). Many of us were totally cured of ADD instantly. Usually one treatment worked just fine.
I’ve always thought that if there was a last stand for America (vs. libtards, Muslims, etc…), it would be in Texas.
Remember the Alamo, indeed.
God bless Texas.
Hey, don’t mess with Texas!!!
God bless Texas!!!!
CoffeeGuzzler: Now you can’t even do that at home. If you leave a mark, off to jail for you!!!. Trust me I know. I have a bi-polar kid who is just looking for a reason to call the cops on me.
CoffeeGuzzler:
Hehe, I went to school at a time when corporal punishment was still used. Nothing serious, but if one talked out of turn in class, one could expect to have an eraser come whizzing at his head, leaving a nice chalk mark in one’s hair. Those nuns were good pitchers.
I also had a teacher who kept a paddle in her drawer, and she would paddle our butts if we acted up. Nothing harsh, more like a formality. We shrugged it off…
I always hated the Unarmed Victims Zones. They’re pretty much an invitation to wackos to come shoot up the place. Good for the Harrold School district! Seems like I heard recently that the Utah legislature passed a statute allowing anyone with a CCP to possess a weapon on the university campuses.
This is exactly how it was at my school. And of course, if you got to go have a session with the ‘board’, everyone in the school knew your business within 15 minutes and you got to deal with that humiliation, too. Remember when there was a social stigma attached to misbehavior?
BTW, I spend 12 years in
purgatoryCatholic schools. I can only remember getting spanked a couple times. Usually, just knowing it was possible was enough to keep you on the good side of Sister Mary Battleaxe.PRAISE THE LORD and pass the ammunition….sing along
True. BTW utah would be a last holdout against the caliphate as well. The mormons are good for something.
Humiliation? Are you kidding?? That would damage their self-esteem and wreck them for life!
/sarc
These days teachers get reprimanded for any type of humiliation of a student, no matter what they have done.
These days teachers get
reprimandedsued for any type of humiliation of a student, no matter what they have done.There, fixed it for ya.
These same people who sue are the same people who wonder where all the schools money goes. Go figure.
Remember when there was a social stigma attached to misbehavior?
Yeah I remember and I also remember when the principle called my dad to make sure I told him of the happenings of my day of education.
These are also the same people who can’t figure out why their kids can’t hold down a job or stay out of the prison system.
There’s probably a cottage industry of John Edwards-types that push lawsuits of teachers/schools/districts for having the audacity of trying to discipline their little reprobates.
whatever happened to taking/accepting responsibility?
CoffeeGuzzler: Would you believe my daughter missed 140 classes last year (one hundred and fourty) and the only reason I found out was because I checked up on her? All I hear is excuses based on her mental illness and how bad I was for blowing a gasket on hearing this.
The schools my girls go to here in Texas, will paddle if need be…. the mom or dad have to give the ok…….
Apparnatly is bad to call the asst. priciple a F%&ing idiot. Who knew…
Shoot, the principle would call my Dad at work at the military base at let him know on the spot what had just happened. Between the forementioned paddle with the holes in it for air movement, the embarassing position, and fellow students knowing what happened and joking about it and then having your Dad show up in his uniform with the “I’m going to shove my boot where the sun don’t shine” look in his eyes that is more than enough to never, ever, ever want to do anything disruptive again.
Glad I got to live through times like that, todays kids by and large are a product of the weak liberal system they are currently under.
Tentacles of Party Organs reach far and wide, Komrade.
The principal of my elementary school (upstate NY) had a piece of razor strap in his drawer. He didn’t have to use it often – the yells coming out of his office when he did kept most kids in line. And that attitude of respect for authority lasts all the way through high school and college.
A mantra repeated daily throughout the state.
Let’s review the impact of the NEA and Dem-liberal controlled public school sheme: 11 year old kids are much more likely to get “the Pill” in school than “the Paddle”.
I say let kids have guns too. Then they can protect themselves against liberal bullies in the playground ( not to mention liberal pedophile teachers )
Hallelujah….This ought to give LGM and Mistressjustice a litle heartache
I only had maybe two P/VP office visits during my K-12 stint, but I can confirm they were not big fans of humor.
Mighta been three visits. Can’t remember if the demand that I get a haircut (or else) occured in the halls or in-office.
Now lgm can carry.
I actualy called him that because he figured my daughter missing over 140 classes during a year was not a big deal because she is bi-polar. I still think he is a f@#$ing idiot.
I LIKE IT, I LOVE IT, I WANT MORE OF IT!!!! MAYBE TEXAS IS NOT AS FAR GONE TO THE LEFT AS I THOUGHT! HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN. LET’S PUSH FOR MORE OF THIS ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY….
If a child misses 140 days out of a 180ish day school year and the parents aren’t notified by say the 100th day, he is a f@#$ing idiot.
Actually the parents should be called after 10 days to see what the problem is. Of course in my experience with my kids’ teachers/administrative staff in the 80’s – early 90’s, they couldn’t be bothered with checking up on kids “that don’t want to be here”. “Oh, by the way, we need more money to properly teach your kids”.
I went to the same school as my kids, and if I missed a day, they notified my parents before noon. That way, if my parents were unaware when they left for work that I was sick or something, they knew about it before I got back home. Not that I missed a lot, for that very reason.
Every once in a rare while some good and sensible news comes along to counter absolute stupidity, this is one of them.
Is Texas great or what?!
Makes we want to go and rent the movie The Substitute…
Texas GETS IT and I’m not saying that just because I live in Texas. Sanity returns, at least in one small pocket of the world.
Sierra Hotel! It is great to see there is one school district that will not allow itself to a soft target or as we call it in our household a “free fire zone.” Leave it to Texas to get it right! I would really like to see this happen in Idaho too. The only places you are not allowed to carry in this state are schools and court houses. Too bad our Governor Butch Otter caved to academia and won’t let college kids (21 years old and over) to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights in a college environment.
Most teachers became teachers because they were not the sharpest pencils in the box… I am not sure they need guns.
Bommer
Don’t tell people that. There is enough here people now.
post of the week in MHO….2 thumbs up…
enough here people? oops
I worked too many hours this week
I think Rob and usa_usa both need a new box of crayons.
Thank you for playing… the next game will start soon.
Those who can’t, teach
I love my state. Now if we could just get the 17 school districts in the SA area to do the same.
oh boy, If I had penny for every time I needed a gun when I was in school …