Saddle up: Saddleback Forum open thread; Obama on abortion: “Above my pay grade,” attacks Clarence Thomas

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 16, 2008 07:08 PM

For those of you watching the Rick Warren/Obama/McCain show tonight, here’s your open thread.

Watch online here.

Wake me up if anything interesting happens.

Like I said before, I’m not holding my breath…

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Obama on abortion: It’s “above his pay grade.” What the…

Obama on which Supreme Court justice he wouldn’t have nominated: Clarence Thomas.

Disturbingly, commenters note, the Saddleback audience cheered.

RACIST!

(Update): Allah’s got the near-gaffetastic video of Obama’s Thomas remarks.

Mark Levin: “On Obama’s best day he can’t hold a candle to Thomas’s intelligence.”
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McCain on when babies are entitled to human rights: “At the moment of conception…this presidency will have pro-life policies.”

Define marriage: “A union between a man and a woman. One man and one woman.”

Warren asks about California marriage preservation proposition and Calif. Supreme Court. “California Supreme Court was wrong.”

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  1. #1
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:12 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Wake me up if anything interesting happens.

    WHAAAAAAAA? It is not 2:00am yet is it?

    Thanks for the link.

  2. #2
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:14 pm, ajmontana said:

    Little league world series is on forget these threee dopes….
    When they debate each other (if that happens) wake me up. 8)

  3. #3
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:16 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    The will be throwing harder at the Little league game then Warren will be throwing. Warren will be tossing cream puffs.

  4. #4
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:17 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Hey, Darth Maklin! Is there any way you can kill this “debate”? :P

  5. #5
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:20 pm, ajmontana said:

    you can’t kill something that’s already dead. can you? oh wait, kieth richards….. neeeeeevermind.

  6. #6
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:20 pm, Artbyruth said:

    My husband will be watching while I go running. Then I will watch Michael Phelps win his 8th gold medal.

    Like our pastor said, when asked if he was watching,

    “Why? What’s the point?”

  7. #7
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:23 pm, Getyourgun said:

    Senator Barack Obama, In a town hall meeting you were asked if there was more than one way to heaven. You replied “yes, I believe so”.
    Question, Why did you call Jesus Christ a liar?

    Jesus says “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.” John 14:6

  8. #8
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:25 pm, brooklyn red said:

    ¿Mate el discusión? ¿Qué discusión que apesta?? ¡Nosotros en hombre!

  9. #9
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:30 pm, twiggman said:

    AJ what did Keith Richards do to be grouped in with those other DEAD people… At least sometimes he makes sense…

  10. #10
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:32 pm, brooklyn red said:

    ¡La ha, el viejo gringo crujiente es mucho smater que el mono espigado grande, y eso no es buena… pero no hay materia, su casa es mi casa! ¡Restiance es gringos vanos!

  11. #11
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:38 pm, Boomer said:

    I think I would rather watch a DVD than this snooze fest myself. Time to pay attention to Mrs. Boomer see you all tomorrow!

  12. #12
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:39 pm, brooklyn red said:

    ¡Comprensivo! ¡sí excelente! No puedo esperarnos hasta que mis hermanos salen de la prisión, oh poseeré una tan buena vecindad tan pronto como se vaya el negro.

  13. #13
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:40 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Good lord. Is anybody listening to the guy they have singing. 20,000 members and they can’t find decent talent?

  14. #14
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:44 pm, brooklyn red said:

    ¡Ningún problema! ¡Tenemos un montón de talento! ¡espere hasta que usted encuentra a mis primos Maria, Maria y Maria!

  15. #15
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:48 pm, Republican (By Default) said:

    Rick Warren doesn’t represent me or my beliefs. I think it’s telling that Obama, a liberal Dem. would even consider participating in this event. It shows that even he knows the Warren is lame in his beliefs. Birds of a feather.

  16. #16
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:50 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    Seekers? Paul in the Book of Romans Ch. 3 quoting from the OT says “NO ONE SEEKS AFTER GOD”! This preacher is not a Gospel Christian, and that forum is a hoax!

  17. #17
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:53 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    What is the deal? They set this up to broadcast on the internet and didn’t set aside enough band width for people to long on and keep their feed going. Who set them up? The same people who set up Michelle’s email? ;)

  18. #18
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:54 pm, Getyourgun said:

    Rick Warren doesn’t represent me or my beliefs.
    Amen. God warned us about theses times. Ditto for Obamas Rev. Wright, ect…

    Tim. 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

  19. #19
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:57 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Yo soap box, you just wait need to watch it they will tell you how brilliant BHO is in the morning…

  20. #20
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:58 pm, ajmontana said:

    duuno soap but i’m not getting sound…..

  21. #21
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:58 pm, brooklyn red said:

    don’t need to watch it, just wait…

    ooooh I hate vista.

  22. #22
    On August 16th, 2008 at 7:59 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Yep br,

    I am glad it took a dump. I was afraid I would put my fist through the screen on the first question. Think I will go shopping with the wife. At least I can deal with rude people. Stupid people make me lose it!!!

  23. #23
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:01 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    It will all be over when Obummer is on Dancing With the Stars anyhow. Who needs a debate!

    Nite all!

  24. #24
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:02 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    The think I’d like to see John McCain say is just how hostile the left in this nation is to religion and religious freedom.

    A girl can hope, can’t she?

  25. #25
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:02 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    I’m watching…we’ll see how long that will last.

  26. #26
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:04 pm, cjean said:

    I cannot believe the ‘evangelical’ response. What has happened to sensibility?

  27. #27
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:05 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    3 wisest pflager, wright and ayers

  28. #28
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:05 pm, Sethery said:

    Woah! Obama just said that to promote bipartisan unity, he would name McCain as his Veep!!!
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    Just kidding. I’ll be somewhere over there *points all around*, doing something more intesting than watching this.

  29. #29
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:05 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Barack’s up first.

    Question: Three wisest people in his life? And who is he going to rely on in his administration?

    Counting the ums…

    Answer: Michelle and grandma

  30. #30
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:06 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    OMG, spinners can’t even answer the first Q.

  31. #31
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:07 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Um count: 4

  32. #32
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:07 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Well, looks like Barack pulled his grandmother out from under the bus!

  33. #33
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:07 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    uaahhh, uuaaahhhh,,, uaaahhhhhh. what an idiot

  34. #34
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:08 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    selfishness, i was so obsesseded with me. nothings changed BARACKY

  35. #35
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:09 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    He is horrible without that teleprompter, isn’t he?

  36. #36
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:09 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    Misquoting the Bible AS USUSAL

  37. #37
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:09 pm, ajmontana said:

    just think how bad it would be if he didn’t see the questions first…. :shock:

  38. #38
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:10 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Next question: Greatest personal failure?
    Countries’ greatest moral failure?

    Barack talks bout his drug use and not having his father in his life. “I’ve been too self-centered.” I can’t contain my laughter.

    Country isn’t following the tenet of doing more for the people to move into the Middle class.

  39. #39
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:10 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    feed the poor, this country needs to stop being so selfish, and be taxed to death, so the world can have a hotdog. my name is Barak Obama and I approve this message

  40. #40
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:11 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Is it me or does he have WAY too much makeup on?

  41. #41
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:11 pm, brooklyn red said:

    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:04 pm, cjean said: I cannot believe the ‘evangelical’ response. What has happened to sensibility?

    Well they say Islam has been hi-jacked by fascists… (& I believe em) So it makes sense for communists to try to hi-jack Christianity.

  42. #42
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:11 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    uhhhhhhhhhh uuuuuhhhhh uuuhhhhhhh etc, etc, etc.

  43. #43
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:12 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    What’s up with the lack of eye contact?

    Now he is saying that people advised him to not oppose the war in Iraq. He also said that the President’s approval rating is high and that he could potentially lose his bid for the Senate because of it.
    Huh?

  44. #44
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:14 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Seroquel, 200mg I think…

  45. #45
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:14 pm, tdavisjr said:

    What’s with all all the grey hair.

  46. #46
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:15 pm, Getyourgun said:

    Well they say Islam has been hi-jacked by fascists… (& I believe em)

    Oh please. Read the Koran and Hadiths and get back to me on that , MMMKKK
    The prophet Mohammad was a murder, rapist and thief, not to leave out liar, deceiver and pedophile. Nice prophet, huh?

  47. #47
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:15 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    when u meet the troops????? when the hell do u meet the troops SIR!

  48. #48
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:15 pm, brooklyn red said:

    and the President’s approval rating is high… compared to Congress.

  49. #49
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:16 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    30 Pieces Can u believe what the messiah is saying. he is sooooooo lying.

  50. #50
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:17 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Mercy,

    He was referring to the time before and after the workout. *rolls eyes*

  51. #51
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:18 pm, vickisoup said:

    BHO just seems to be a big liar. His answers are contrived, I also note the lack of eye contact, the difficulty he has saying anything meaningful, and frankly I did not believe him for a second when he purported to refer to scripture.
    I don’t know if I can stand another 45 minutes of this….and that’s just BHO’s interview!
    :roll:

  52. #52
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:18 pm, jimmyk said:

    What are the splotches on the side of his head?

  53. #53
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:18 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    OBAMA is so paper thin, in all of his yrs on this planet, the only thing he can talk about that was the most significant thing he had to do was protest the war in Iraq. LOSER

  54. #54
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:18 pm, RW_the_original said:

    I can’t believe he said he used to be too obsessed with himself. Imagine what he was like before if there’s any truth to that.

  55. #55
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:20 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    which Jesus???? He has a racist Jesus that doesn’t exist

  56. #56
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:20 pm, vickisoup said:

    BlameAmericaLast said:
    Is it me or does he have WAY too much makeup on?

    I don’t think so. It gives me some pain to admit it, but BHO is a good-looking man. I wish we could get some bad (i.e. unattractive) pics of him, but we keep getting these big smile, “I’m great” kind of shots.

  57. #57
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:21 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    uuuhhhhhhh, iiiiiiiii, ummmmmmmmm

  58. #58
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:22 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    he has a tan from his Hawaii vacation

  59. #59
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:22 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    uh oh, he’s in trouble now boys

  60. #60
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:23 pm, Laree said:

    He is fumbling with Abortion it is above his pay grade this is not the route he should have chosen.

  61. #61
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:23 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I don’t think so. It gives me some pain to admit it, but BHO is a good-looking man. I wish we could get some bad (i.e. unattractive) pics of him, but we keep getting these big smile, “I’m great” kind of shots.

    Hmmmm…maybe it’s my new HD service we got hooked up with DirecTV a week ago.

  62. #62
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:24 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    Abortion is on the table. I worked in a jail, and many prostitutes would get abortions all the time, so he is ill informed.

  63. #63
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:24 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Abortion… what’s your take?

    “Can’t answer the question with specificity… it’s above his pay grade?” What the?

  64. #64
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:24 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Liar…

    He claims he’s not for late term abortions.

    Liar.

    He voted otherwise. Several times.

  65. #65
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:24 pm, Laree said:

    This doesn’t work, he is laying off the decision on women so he is distancing himself from the “Spiritually”

  66. #66
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:25 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    He has absolutly NO ANSWER

  67. #67
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:25 pm, TimLenox said:

    IMHO, watching this on FNC is worth it simply because Bill Samon and Charles Krauthammer will be giving critique.

    Also, Senator B.O. tends to conveniently forget what he says week to week, so having a recording will help later. This should fit on a DVD nicely. BTW, I ended a Cabinet meeting at 7:30pm tonight to give my advisors time enough to get home to watch.

    In addition, this new format is intriguing. Now, if they can give a third hour to make it a full contact sport, we will have something.

    OOOHH! Bary just got asked what point life starts. Answer, “above my pay grade”. WUUUUUUUSSSSSSSS!

    But hey, he has introduced reducing the number of abortions into the DNC platform. Think the DNC will agree?

  68. #68
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:25 pm, RW_the_original said:

    That should have been an easy answer for him. He doesn’t believe that if abortion was chosen and wasn’t successful that the person should never get human rights.

  69. #69
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:25 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Claims now that we need to provide services for women to keep their babies.

    You sure about that Barack? I do recall you saying that babies are a punishment.

  70. #70
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:26 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    OMG the crowd cheered for traditional marriage

  71. #71
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:26 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    He’s Christian when it is beneficial to him… but I’m pro-choice. *rolls eyes, again.*

  72. #72
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:26 pm, TimLenox said:

    WHOOPS! He just defined marriage as between a man and a woman.

  73. #73
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:27 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    waffle…waffle…waffle…waffle…waffle.

    He’s getting very incoherent.

  74. #74
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:27 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    This guy is a walking oxymoron. Moron mostly

  75. #75
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:28 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    OMG the crowd cheered for traditional marriage

    Unfortunately, they also cheered when he said he didn’t support a constitutional amendment for marriage between a man and a woman.

  76. #76
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:28 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    AMEN
    He is way over his head even with these softball questions

  77. #77
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:28 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    You said it Mercy…

    The moron part.

  78. #78
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:29 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    Blame America Last;

    yeah, I heard a few claps

  79. #79
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:29 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    I’m not sure if he is still speaking english…

  80. #80
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:30 pm, TimLenox said:

    MMMMM!!!

    Key Lime Pie!!!

    Helps counteract the sickening sweetness of the Obamaessiah.

  81. #81
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:30 pm, RW_the_original said:

    I really wish he was hooked up to a lie detector.

  82. #82
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:31 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Evil exists… okay.

    Evil in Darfur, streets of our cities and abusive parents.

    We need humility when confronting evil… What?!?

  83. #83
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:31 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    What to do with evil? Well, thaaaaaaaat, 2 second pause………., This guy is soooooooo empty, What did Jesus say about evil, you idiot!!!!!

  84. #84
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:31 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Yaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn.

    I have never seen him stumble so much. This is horrible. No one can seriously think he’s doing well, can they?

  85. #85
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:31 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    I know, WTH is he talking about!!!!!

  86. #86
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:32 pm, BOB said:

    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:27 pm, Mercy4Me said:
    This guy is a walking oxymoron. Moron mostly

    Thanks, that was very funny.

    When is Phelps going to get a chance at an 8th gold metal?

  87. #87
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:32 pm, twofoot said:

    Learn something new every day. Obama is in favor of “some restrictions” on late term abortions. Hmm. Who knew?

    No, really, who knew? Cause I am trying to figure out how that meshes with thinking it’s okay to starve a child to death who survives an abortion.

  88. #88
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:32 pm, TypicalWhite said:

    BO can’t say when life begins – that’s up to each person’s individual perspective.

    BO can’t say that society has any right to define marriage – that’s up to each person’s individual perspective.

    BO can’t admit that embryonic stem cell research would lead to a market in embryos.

    BO can’t nail down evil, and doesn’t say how we should confront it.

    … and Clarence Thomas goes under the bus!

  89. #89
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:32 pm, Laree said:

    He is bringing up humility in relationship to Evil but he doesn’t bring a case where a person should be timid when confronted with Evil. He wouldn’t have nominated Clarance Thomas…WHAT?

  90. #90
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:32 pm, vickisoup said:

    30 pcs, you kill me. :lol:
    Anyway, he’s a liar and his pants are totally on fire.
    He brought out the same tired, “Gays should be able to visit their loved one in the hospital” argument. No duh. You don’t have to be married to visit anyone in the hospital anymore.
    Gosh, I really cannot stand this man!

  91. #91
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:32 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    He went after the black man, racist!

  92. #92
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:33 pm, TimLenox said:

    Oooooh, Damn. He just dissed Clarence Thomas! And his flock clappped!

  93. #93
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:33 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Which existing Supreme Court justice would you not have nominated… Clarence Thomas. Easy mark.

    Scalia…

  94. #94
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:33 pm, Laree said:

    I guess he would be looking for judges up in Vermont.

  95. #95
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:33 pm, tdavisjr said:

    Obama really wants to talk in general terms..but Rick is not letting him go there too much without any specifics. Great job Rick!

  96. #96
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:33 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    10:50 PM EST for PHELPS

  97. #97
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:34 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Wow…dissing Clarence Thomas.

    Unbelievable.

    Doesn’t like Scalia, wow, what a surprise.

    Finds Roberts compelling, but claims he encroached upon the executive branch. Gave the administration more power than the constitution allows.

    Example, please?

  98. #98
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:34 pm, Fenguri said:

    So ya figure Warren’s books will get a good bounce out of this? Not sure anything else will come out of it.

  99. #99
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:35 pm, Laree said:

    I really have a problem with his Evil remarks, when I would want someone to be humble, is when they receive the power of the office he is running for. Confronting Evil- Not so much.

  100. #100
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:35 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I guess he would be looking for judges up in Vermont.

    Uh, no. Try San Franciso, or maybe the 9th circuit circus of appeals.

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