Saddle up: Saddleback Forum open thread; Obama on abortion: “Above my pay grade,” attacks Clarence Thomas

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 16, 2008 07:08 PM

For those of you watching the Rick Warren/Obama/McCain show tonight, here’s your open thread.

Watch online here.

Wake me up if anything interesting happens.

Like I said before, I’m not holding my breath…

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Obama on abortion: It’s “above his pay grade.” What the…

Obama on which Supreme Court justice he wouldn’t have nominated: Clarence Thomas.

Disturbingly, commenters note, the Saddleback audience cheered.

RACIST!

(Update): Allah’s got the near-gaffetastic video of Obama’s Thomas remarks.

Mark Levin: “On Obama’s best day he can’t hold a candle to Thomas’s intelligence.”
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McCain on when babies are entitled to human rights: “At the moment of conception…this presidency will have pro-life policies.”

Define marriage: “A union between a man and a woman. One man and one woman.”

Warren asks about California marriage preservation proposition and Calif. Supreme Court. “California Supreme Court was wrong.”

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  1. #101
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:35 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    This is going to be seen as BAD for BHO.

    If anyone is watching and wanted answers
    from BHO, even an intelligent discussion,
    they didn’t find it with BHO

  2. #102
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:35 pm, TimLenox said:

    Seriously, guys.
    Key Lime Pie.
    It helps make the sacarin go down.

  3. #103
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:36 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    The Q was would he ignore, negotiate, contain or defeat evil. He answered none of the four. Says “confront”.

    What Russia is doing in Georgia is evil.

    He blew a perfect chance to look tough, but it didn’t even occur to him.

    BHO is a fraud, an empty suit.

    BSR

  4. #104
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:36 pm, twofoot said:

    One of the most important jobs of the Supreme Court is to guard against the encroachment of the Executive branch on the authority of the other branches?

    I…

    Um…

    I thought this guy went to law school? Did he sleep through the ten minutes dedicated to the US Constitution.

    Obama, living proof that law schools need to go back to teaching the Constitution as opposed to case law.

  5. #105
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:36 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Ah…waffling again.

    Devil’s in the details…about faith based initiatives.

    He’s going both ways again.

  6. #106
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:37 pm, vickisoup said:

    vap·id –adjective
    1. lacking or having lost life, sharpness, or flavor; insipid; flat: vapid tea.
    2. without liveliness or spirit; dull or tedious: a vapid party; vapid conversation.
    —Synonyms 1. lifeless, flavorless. 2. spiritless, unanimated, tiresome, prosaic.

  7. #107
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:37 pm, jimmyk said:

    He fails the faith bases questions.

  8. #108
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:37 pm, Laree said:

    He blew the Abortion Question he didn’t help himself at all.

  9. #109
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:37 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    But we use federal funding to discriminate against babies

  10. #110
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:37 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Boy, I can’t wait until McCain comes on.

    This is painful to watch.

  11. #111
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:37 pm, ajmontana said:

    rofl @ 30,

    30 pcs of silver said:
    I’m not sure if he is still speaking english…

  12. #112
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:38 pm, vickisoup said:

    I do have to give Warren his props for this. These questions are pretty hard-hitting.

  13. #113
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:38 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    OK, now onto taxes.

  14. #114
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:38 pm, vickisoup said:

    Define “rich”. Oh this is going to be great!

  15. #115
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:38 pm, Laree said:

    blameamericalast,

    They have reformative justice up in Vermont, I can tell Obama is one of those redeemers ;)

  16. #116
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:39 pm, TimLenox said:

    Okay, Michelle, don’t ban me for this, it is JUST a metaphor: Ya’ gotta have cloven hooves to walk a tightrope like this.

  17. #117
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:39 pm, Laree said:

    sorry restorative justice

  18. #118
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:40 pm, Robroy said:

    I would pay to have a splitscreen with Matthews doing the happy dance on the other side .

  19. #119
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:40 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    250 K in Cali is poor

  20. #120
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:40 pm, allrsn said:

    wow teachers are underpaid??? a dm bachlors degree and they are under paid!! let them set their own salery??

    I picked the wrong job!!!!

    how about we fire all teachers and let them work in the privte sector for a few years!!!

  21. #121
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:40 pm, jimmyk said:

    Whose Rich?
    e eee eeee, here’s how I think about it.
    150 down you are middle class.
    if you make more than 250,000 you are rich. Tax the evil rich!

  22. #122
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:40 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Oh oh…waiting for those typical liberal buzz words…

    Equality, fairness, etc.

    Waiting…3..2..1

  23. #123
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:41 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    TAX MAN COMETH and his name is BO

  24. #124
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:41 pm, Laree said:

    He is going to tag people for more taxes, who worked and played by the rules. A modest increase?

  25. #125
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:41 pm, purplepeep said:

    On-my-soap-box said:
    What is the deal? They set this up to broadcast on the internet and didn’t set aside enough band width for people to long on and keep their feed going.

    Soap – a little secret for you. Check out “TVU” and watch it online via FoxNews. You might have to download the player, but it’s safe and a freebie.

    http://pages.tvunetworks.com/channels

    As a benefit, if things get even more boring there’s lots of other stuff to watch.

    But remember, it’s a secret, shhhh… :)

  26. #126
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:42 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    To BHO’s 24MM money jab, Pastor Warren should have said, “yes, but I’m not running for President. Please answer the question.”

    BHO has no clue how to answer and he should have seen this coming. Not ready for prime time.

  27. #127
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:42 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    250 K in Cali is poor

    Yeah, no kidding.

    9.3% state income tax, and sales tax @ 8%

    And at $250K, you’re at what, the 36.9% rate? And if you get hit with the AMT, then you’re really screwed.

  28. #128
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:42 pm, vickisoup said:

    “I’m going to….”, in regard to taxes. Uh….isn’t that the Executive Branch encroaching on the Legislative Branch?
    The President doesn’t get to make law.
    I think he needs to run that past his SCOTUS nominee…..

  29. #129
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:43 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    Dang, my household income is ONLY 80k, im poor!

  30. #130
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:43 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I would pay to have a splitscreen with Matthews doing the happy dance on the other side .

    You think he’s getting the thrill up his leg yet?

  31. #131
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:44 pm, TimLenox said:

    Soooooooo, those people who have income four or five times the poverty line and would get SCHIP help thanks to these guys, would they be getting a tax increase to pay for it?
    Things that make you go WHA’?

  32. #132
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:44 pm, ajmontana said:

    or his grandma vic….

  33. #133
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:44 pm, Laree said:

    How many failed social programs does Obama want to re institute? A modest increase are we talking paying for night time basketball again to keep kids off the streets?

  34. #134
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:45 pm, jimmyk said:

    this sounds like his stump speech but with ee..eeee.eeee…let’s look at the general picture before he starts with the same old crap and doesn’t deal with the specifics. If 150,000 and below is not rich, where do the folks making between 150 and 250 fit in? Tax, Tax, Tax…B.S.

  35. #135
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:45 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    What community has this organizer ever succeeded in bring from proverty?

    crickets……

  36. #136
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:46 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    Oh so patriotic. Too bad he doesn’t have time for living troops. With all respect.

  37. #137
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:46 pm, TimLenox said:

    MERCY,
    Don’t feel too bad. After two decades of back-breaking overwork, I’m still just making 85k and having a hard time affording my two mortgages.
    We is ALL po’

  38. #138
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:47 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    IIIIIIIII, IIIIIII uuhhhhhhhhh, duhhhhhhhhh

  39. #139
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:47 pm, jimmyk said:

    no hard and fast line, let’s all talk about it….what crap.

  40. #140
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:48 pm, Laree said:

    Darfur is not the only country in turmoil what about Zimbabwea they are in really bad shape too. I never here him mention other countrys in Africa, okay Kenya.

  41. #141
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:48 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    I just heard 30 ppl applauding. How many does that place hold? Bring on McCain.

  42. #142
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:48 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    BayState…

    3000 people are there.

  43. #143
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:48 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    What has he ever done for Darfur? All these STARS, and BHO is included, talk talk talk but how much do they give give give.

  44. #144
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:49 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I think if McCain goes on and just sneezes he’ll get more applause.

  45. #145
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:49 pm, allrsn said:

    AGAIN!!! Public health around the world!!!! dm this fool

  46. #146
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:49 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    Orphans, Johnny boy, has adopted a girl, so this will be a good one for him.

  47. #147
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:50 pm, ajmontana said:

    BlameAmericaLast said:
    BayState…

    3000 people are there.

    and one dope

  48. #148
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:50 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    Three adopted kids in my home. The adoption tax credit was a slam dunk. He just needs to be an advocate.

    Preventing orphans? Nice to know he’ll be king of the world.

    He’s in trouble, giving GWB his due.

  49. #149
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:51 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    persecution, like we talk to them, like oh my god, don’t you know this….

  50. #150
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:51 pm, jimmyk said:

    We are going to talk, talk, talk….
    Do nothing democrats.

  51. #151
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:51 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    Blame AMERICA

  52. #152
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:51 pm, Laree said:

    He got applause for complimenting George W Bush, on his aid to the international community to stop A.I.D.S.

  53. #153
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:51 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    People’s faith needs to be protected?

    Congress shall make no law…

  54. #154
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:52 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    Blame America for religious persecution??? uhhhh, this guy is lame, and obviously doesn’t live in the real world

  55. #155
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:53 pm, TimLenox said:

    BayStateRepublican said:
    Congress shall make no law…

    … but the Supreme Court …

  56. #156
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:53 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    OMG, he won’t repeat the answer he gave to the 7 yr old girl.

  57. #157
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:53 pm, Laree said:

    Give Prosecutors the tools? We have Johnny Sutton down here. I don’t think it is lack of legal tools. that we need to stop human trafficking.

  58. #158
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:54 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    Thousands trapped in enslavement HERE!!!

    Sounds like a something a Republican President knows how to solve.

  59. #159
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:54 pm, jimmyk said:

    don’t be mean, don’t hurt anybody’s feelings. B.S.

  60. #160
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:54 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Whatever… what about Senator Obama Kogelo Secondary School?

    You wanna help, right?

  61. #161
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:54 pm, RW_the_original said:

    The problem is that we already know how he wants to prevent orphans.

  62. #162
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:54 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    he wants to be president so he can be empathetic????? WTHell

  63. #163
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:54 pm, sharprightturn said:

    Rick Warren has asked more pointed questions than I anticipated that he would….I am anxious to see McCain now.

  64. #164
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:54 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    A Bridge too far. Good night nurse…

  65. #165
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:55 pm, allrsn said:

    commen sense solutions??? I wish he would name one.

  66. #166
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:55 pm, twofoot said:

    I can’t watch this crap anymore. I am going back to my truck where I can put on a Star Wars dvd and check back here occasionally.

    All I can say is, I am thunderstruck that anyone would pull a lever for this man.

  67. #167
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:55 pm, jimmyk said:

    who is the crowd made up of?

  68. #168
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:55 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    He’s a person of faith. Oh, you mean Rev. Wrights kind of faith?

  69. #169
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:55 pm, sharprightturn said:

    Obama told Warren we needed more conversations like this….is that why he turned down those town hall meetings with McCain?

  70. #170
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:55 pm, RW_the_original said:

    These are the kinds of forums we need???

    Then why do you keep refusing to do them?

  71. #171
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:55 pm, ajmontana said:

    I hope a lot of people are seeing this toolbag.

  72. #172
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:56 pm, Laree said:

    Answering the forum question. He is having a conversation without having to face John McCain, he is taking a turn, it is lame. I think John McCain, would have no trouble sitting at the table with them both at the same time.

  73. #173
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:56 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    Well put, RW

  74. #174
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:57 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    That was beyond lame.

  75. #175
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:57 pm, et said:

    Beer. I’m getting through this with beer.

  76. #176
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:57 pm, allrsn said:

    A price to pay

    sacerfice

    tax tax tax tax tax tax

    for global warming

  77. #177
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:57 pm, Laree said:

    What sacrifice has Obama ever made? But there is no reason not to ask Americans to make sacrifices?

  78. #178
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:57 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    leave the stage idiot

  79. #179
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:58 pm, TimLenox said:

    Thank God, Mrs. Smith, and Mike’s Pies (www.mikespies.com)
    for Key Lime Pie.
    I made it through an hour of Senator B.O. for the first time.
    A personal best.

  80. #180
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:58 pm, vickisoup said:

    or his grandma

    Oh yeah…the typical white person who he dained to spend a whole hour with on his family vacation while his wife & kids played at the beach?
    The kids in my family would be the first ones to run to their grandma’s house! They wouldn’t stand for a, “You go play while I visit G-ma”.
    :roll:

  81. #181
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:58 pm, ajmontana said:

    get off the stage!

  82. #182
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:58 pm, allrsn said:

    I hope-naaa I expect-naa I demand McCain to blow BO away in honesty!!

  83. #183
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:58 pm, Laree said:

    I am watching this on CNN John McCain got a big welcome then they cut away.

  84. #184
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:59 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    BAL—– Beyond lame indeed

  85. #185
    On August 16th, 2008 at 8:59 pm, vickisoup said:

    Oops….”deigned”.
    *blush*

  86. #186
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:00 pm, TimLenox said:

    et said:
    Beer. I’m getting through this with beer.

    Ooh! Great idea! Time for the Guiness! Thanks!

  87. #187
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:00 pm, allrsn said:

    smooth, elagant, and relaxed?? I did not see that, I must have fell asleep when that happened.

  88. #188
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:00 pm, Laree said:

    vickisoup,

    I hope it is because he is trying to keep the press away from her, keep her out of it. She has mentioned not being in good health. I want to think, that he is putting her first. I Really want to believe he is being human about his grandmother.

  89. #189
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:01 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    Fox News has the panel discussion, and they are all idiots.

  90. #190
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:01 pm, BOB said:

    Couldn’t stand to watch Obama…..but I haven’t seen McCain blowing anyone away with his ability to talk without a teleprompter.

    Hopefully, he won’t do worse than Obama.

  91. #191
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:01 pm, sharprightturn said:

    Good lord, the folks on Foz mainly think Obama did well…were they watching the same show I was?

  92. #192
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:01 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I can’t believe the crowd on FoxNews is actually thinking he did well!

    I haven’t even had a beer yet and I know he was horrible!

    Yeah, when asked about evil, he didn’t bring up Al Queda…or AghINeedAJob in Iran who wants the nation of Israel to be destroyed or eliminated off the map!

  93. #193
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:01 pm, RW_the_original said:

    Who brainwashed the Fox News panel?

  94. #194
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:01 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    They obviuosly haven’t been watching the same BHO interview I was

  95. #195
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:01 pm, allrsn said:

    McCain has a high bar to make? I bet 70% of MM’s posters could make BO’s bar.

  96. #196
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:01 pm, sharprightturn said:

    That’s “Fox” sorry…

  97. #197
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:01 pm, TypicalWhite said:

    Krauthammer just nailed BO on the Thomas diss – he’s not one to name lack of experience for high office!

  98. #198
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:02 pm, Laree said:

    If McCain starts in with that compassionate Immigration reform I am going to….

  99. #199
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:02 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    GREAT ANSWER JOHN<<<

  100. #200
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:02 pm, et said:

    No wonder he never actually practiced law, could you imagine him in front of a jury.

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