Saddle up: Saddleback Forum open thread; Obama on abortion: “Above my pay grade,” attacks Clarence Thomas

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 16, 2008 07:08 PM

For those of you watching the Rick Warren/Obama/McCain show tonight, here’s your open thread.

Watch online here.

Wake me up if anything interesting happens.

Like I said before, I’m not holding my breath…

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Obama on abortion: It’s “above his pay grade.” What the…

Obama on which Supreme Court justice he wouldn’t have nominated: Clarence Thomas.

Disturbingly, commenters note, the Saddleback audience cheered.

RACIST!

(Update): Allah’s got the near-gaffetastic video of Obama’s Thomas remarks.

Mark Levin: “On Obama’s best day he can’t hold a candle to Thomas’s intelligence.”
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McCain on when babies are entitled to human rights: “At the moment of conception…this presidency will have pro-life policies.”

Define marriage: “A union between a man and a woman. One man and one woman.”

Warren asks about California marriage preservation proposition and Calif. Supreme Court. “California Supreme Court was wrong.”

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  1. #410294
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:24 pm, vickisoup said:

    Michelle, I hope you’ll tune in. Even I am starting to feel tinges of hope from the Repub candidate.

  2. #410295
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:25 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Ginsburg, first! Hallelujah!!!

  3. #410296
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:25 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Supreme court justices…as expected, Ginsberg was #1 named.

  4. #410297
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:25 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    The first hour was like talking to a first grader, This hour it’s like a scholar.

  5. #410298
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:25 pm, Tazed and Confused said:

    BHO dodged the “why” question on which justices should go

  6. #410299
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:25 pm, Hadenough said:

    my friends, my friends, my friends.. dude, cut that crap out

    Please. Just when I’m liking what he’s saying. my friends.

  7. #410301
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:25 pm, nyc123me said:

    EXCELLENT comment on how justices should be picked.

  8. #410302
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:26 pm, vickisoup said:

    The first hour was like talking to a first grader

    Absolutely! Great analogy.

  9. #410303
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:27 pm, ajmontana said:

    This is like Team U.S.A. vs a bunch of 13 year olds…. oh wait bad example….

    Anyway, he’s kicking Odimbo’s butt.

  10. #410304
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:27 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Good answer on the faith based orgs.

  11. #410306
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:27 pm, FamilyMan said:

    Yes. No need for government help/control.

  12. #410307
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:27 pm, vickisoup said:

    Seriously, the difference in the experience levels of these two men, not to mention their oratory gifts, is astounding. OMG.

  13. #410308
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:28 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    The message is experience. That’s what his stories are intending to showcase.

    This is very well orchestrated.

    Good answers and good form.

    BSR

  14. #410309
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:28 pm, TypicalWhite said:

    Love the way McCain answers questions immediately and with surety. He knows what he believes and is unequivocal in stating his posiiton. Great!

  15. #410310
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:28 pm, vickisoup said:

    Good one, aj. :-)

  16. #410311
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:28 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Find bad teachers a better line of work!! Priceless!

  17. #410312
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:28 pm, Krell1956 said:

    McCain’s saying all the right things, and he’s talking about whom he’d nominate to the SC. But I’m reminded of what Mark Levin said on his radio show recently- he’s saying he’d nominate judges who’d completely disagree with his McCain Finegold Bill.

  18. #410313
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:28 pm, Tazed and Confused said:

    Kick out the BAD teachers… slam dunk!… Eat it NEA

  19. #410314
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:28 pm, allrsn said:

    Great teacher answer

    find them another line of work

  20. #410315
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:28 pm, FamilyMan said:

    Yes get the teachers union out of the classroom

  21. #410316
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:29 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Major roar moment on the education issue.

    Put bad teachers in another job.

    School choice. Competition.

    Finally! Substance on the education issue.

  22. #410317
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:29 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    The crowd is pro- JOHN. For sure this is a win

  23. #410318
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:29 pm, sharprightturn said:

    McCain has not gotten much attention from the MSM….I can see why now…this forum is showing his strengths well…and Obama’s weakness well!

  24. #410319
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:29 pm, vickisoup said:

    School Choice…bring it, McCain!

  25. #410320
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:30 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I haven’t heard one umm, ahh, err…

  26. #410321
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:30 pm, TypicalWhite said:

    Choice and competition in schools – the civil rights issue of the 21st C. Excellent!!

  27. #410322
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:30 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    Find bad teachers another line of work.

    Choice in reproduction good?

    Choice in schools bad?

    The liberal POV on choice makes my head spin.

    I’m glad he’s answering fast. Shows he believes it in his core.

    “Out of the overflow of the heart…”

  28. #410323
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:30 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    OK, the tax question now.

  29. #410324
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:31 pm, vickisoup said:

    He’s owning this stage. He’s had Warren back on his heels a couple of times, now.

  30. #410325
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:31 pm, Valerie said:

    McCain – lights on, somebody’s home. He at least has an understanding of the overall scope of the questions. This is somebody conversant on the issues.

  31. #410326
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:31 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    I’m impressed. He’s looks comfortable and confident. If you set aside the “my friends” I’d give it a ten. ;-)

  32. #410327
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:31 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    BlameAmericaLast

    I said that earlier too. I can’t believe the difference. Well I actually can, but you get my point.

  33. #410328
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:31 pm, deedledee said:

    I just had to join the party; this man, McCain, is hitting it out of the park big time compared to Obama’s pathetic bunts. No wonder Obama is afraid of the townhalls. I’ve had tears in my eyes a few times with McCain’s answers.

  34. #410329
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:31 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Great answers on the tax question.

    Many, many examples.

  35. #410330
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:32 pm, CCM said:

    Okay. This is why Obama won’t do Town Halls with McCain. He’d get creamed.

  36. #410331
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:32 pm, vickisoup said:

    Yes! Doesn’t believe in redistribution of wealth, or class warfare. Yes! Keep taxes low! Tax credit to buy the healthcare of our choice. These are real solutions, real answers.

  37. #410332
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:32 pm, Micheleeroo said:

    I’m listening to this debate, and I must say the immense depth and conviction coming from John McCain is so much in evidence, compared with the empty suit-sounding Obama. Obama deliberately misled that audience about his views on marriage. He claimed he believes it’s about man/woman, but failed to mention he desperately wants to overturn the national Defense of Marriage Act, signed by Clinton even. He forgot to mention he will do everything in his power to see that gay marriage happens. He hemmed and hawed about abortion.

    Please, God, do not let Obama win.

  38. #410333
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:33 pm, TimLenox said:

    YES YES YES !!!
    Homeschooling, School Choice, Vouchers!
    This is one of MY top campaign issues!
    Everyone, check out

    NHELD

    They were the first to contact me for support
    and I will be fighting for them.

    GO, Johnny, GO !!!

  39. #410334
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:33 pm, nyc123me said:

    $5,000 tax credit to pay for health insurance.. unfortunately if not administered, the irresponsible (read: mortgage bailout)) would spend it on themselves and expect health coverage anyway.

  40. #410335
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:33 pm, Laree said:

    I’m sure that comment is going to be distorted he is wide awake.

  41. #410336
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:33 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    BSR’s credit = 5X$7,000 = $35,000

    Means BSR pays no more tax and invests more.

    I’m good with that.

  42. #410337
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:33 pm, vickisoup said:

    It’s not a problem with revenue; it’s a problem with spending! Yahoo!

  43. #410338
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:33 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    Good JOKE 3million for DNA study of bears

  44. #410339
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:33 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    He got it right…it wasn’t the taxes, it was the ridiculous spending going on for the past several years.

    Gives example of the studying the DNA of bears.

    Pretty laughable. But it’s true.

  45. #410340
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:33 pm, Hadenough said:

    I’m impressed. He’s looks comfortable and confident. If you set aside the “my friends” I’d give it a ten.

    Yes.

  46. #410341
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:34 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    He’s actually having a conversation.

    Congress’ pay raise and a vacation. We should call ‘em back.

  47. #410342
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:34 pm, TXGator said:

    Cut taxes, increase tax receipts.
    Any questions?

  48. #410343
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:34 pm, Laree said:

    The Bear study was priceless.

  49. #410344
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:34 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I think the DNC may want to throw Barack under the bus now. Along with the rest of the folks that are waiting for him there.

  50. #410345
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:35 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    “our best days”, Reaganesque and genuine

  51. #410346
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:35 pm, Micheleeroo said:

    #297: Please, please register to vote. Look what Obama threatens to bring to the presidency—scary and thin on knowledge/experience! McCain is looking quite good in comparison!

  52. #410347
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:36 pm, Krell1956 said:

    He’s talking about out-of-control spending, and I agree. But he also voted against Bush’s tax cuts. I’m not happy with the way Bush has increased spending, but tax cuts are vital to a healthy society. Like I said a few minutes ago- he’s saying all the right things. But how long till he becomes the ‘Maverick’ again?

  53. #410348
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:36 pm, Laree said:

    Hillary has her Obama voodoo doll out and using it:)

  54. #410349
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:37 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    Unlike the comments from BHO about his dislike for this country. John actaully loves his country, and i don’t doubt that for 1 sec.

  55. #410350
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:37 pm, nyc123me said:

    I hope the ‘bonus’ questions include immigration…

  56. #410351
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:37 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    The reason he voted against the tax cuts was because there weren’t any spending cuts to go with it. That was the maverick thing to do at the time.

    He changed his mind since then. But you saw him say again that the spending is the issue, and he’s right on that one.

  57. #410352
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:38 pm, Tazed and Confused said:

    I’m guessing Hillary is ecstatic right now… what a deal she brokered at the Dem convention… Can’t wait for that!

  58. #410353
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:38 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    I wish the viewers could contrast the answers in real time. JSM is slaying BHO.

  59. #410354
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:38 pm, jimmyk said:

    OMG! I haven’t supported McCain but I will sure vote against Obama. Not one forth right answer in the whole hour he was on, just ee.eeeee.eeeeee. err you know!

  60. #410355
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:38 pm, vickisoup said:

    Hillary has her Obama voodoo doll out and using it:)

    I think she won’t need it. I think she’s going to take the nomination in Denver, particularly if any of the so-called “super delegates” are watching this today.
    BHO was pathetic. Would they dare trust him at even one of the three planned debates?

  61. #410357
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:39 pm, TimLenox said:

    Maybe its the beer, but I am LOVIN’ this guy!!!

    We still have immigration coming up, maybe…

    so I’m going for more beer

  62. #410358
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:39 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    BlameAmericaLast;

    OMG, I hope they do throw BHO under the bus. Bring on Hillary or whomever you want. With Johns performance tonight, he will win.

  63. #410359
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:39 pm, ajmontana said:

    this is what McCain did to Odopey…
    just listen to the first two seconds,,,

    wipe out.
    lmao

  64. #410360
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:40 pm, nyc123me said:

    Can you imagine the slaughter if these two were debating face to face? McCain would rip Obama not just one but several new a55holes! Obama just utterly outclassed.

  65. #410361
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:40 pm, vickisoup said:

    Tim, pass me a brewski, won’t you? :P

  66. #410362
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:40 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    Tim, I’m with you. Wish we had a wall, but he’s doing fine on all else.

  67. #410363
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:40 pm, et said:

    Antacids are a big hit with super delegates right now.

  68. #410364
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:41 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    Peggy Noonan’s words. Great choice.

  69. #410365
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:41 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Freedom isn’t free! Write that down and never forget it.

  70. #410366
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:41 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Sorry Mr. Soros, but you may have to wait another 4 years for your workers utopia…

  71. #410367
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:42 pm, vickisoup said:

    “The most precious asset we have is American blood”.
    Contrast that with the Dem’s most precious asset, which is Roe v Wade.
    :roll:

  72. #410368
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:42 pm, jcjimi said:

    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:39 pm, TimLenox said:

    Maybe its the beer, but I am LOVIN’ this guy!!!

    We still have immigration coming up, maybe…

    so I’m going for more beer

    Good point.

    *Grabs vodka & shot glass*

  73. #410369
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:43 pm, TXGator said:

    The fact that this sort of place is hostile territory for Obambi should tell everyone all they need to know about him.
    With his church, bedfellows, and votes, McCain should slaughter this guy. Yet, I still fear our country has tipped too far the wrong way. We have more takers than givers, almost.
    I hope it can be brought back.

  74. #410370
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:43 pm, Tazed and Confused said:

    Pick your battles. Don’t be an ostrich. Georgia… yes… Shut up Rick… let him address today’s issues

  75. #410371
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:43 pm, Laree said:

    Incredible Rwanda not going to be forgotten. Darfur with a plan not a talking point. A throw away issue.

  76. #410372
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:43 pm, bender said:

    Maybe its because Obama spent his time saying “uh,” but it seems to me that McCain is hitting home run after home run. Clear, concise, and to the point. I am very impressed.

  77. #410373
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:44 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    McCain is dominating the Pastor. As a potential leader of the free world might.

  78. #410374
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:44 pm, vickisoup said:

    Yet, I still fear our country has tipped too far the wrong way. We have more takers than givers, almost.
    I hope it can be brought back.

    Pray pray pray.

  79. #410375
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:44 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    At least he knows his history about Georgia.

    Wonder if Barack can even point to it on the map!

  80. #410376
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:45 pm, TimLenox said:

    vickisoup said:
    Tim, pass me a brewski, won’t you?

    Ask ET, it was HIS brilliant idea!
    BTW, did you check outAnn Coulter’s
    newest personal web site?

  81. #410377
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:46 pm, TypicalWhite said:

    John talks about American responsibility to defend freedom – he doesn’t talk about waiting for the U.N. or the “international community.”

    This is American exceptionalism. We’re the only ones who can and will.

  82. #410378
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:46 pm, Tazed and Confused said:

    BHO still thinks that Alabama invaded Georgia

  83. #410380
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:46 pm, vickisoup said:

    Now now….Barack knows where Georgia is. It’s just north of Florida.

  84. #410379
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:46 pm, ajmontana said:

    I just heard the guys in the white coats came and picked up Obama…..
    he got destroyed tonight.

  85. #410381
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:46 pm, purplepeep said:

    Laree said:
    The Bear study was priceless.

    Yup. “is it a paternity issue?’ line got me with a mouthful of adult beverage that ended up on the monitor.

    McCain’s on fire tonight.

  86. #410382
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:46 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    AMEN- AMERICA must NEVER back down

  87. #410385
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:46 pm, TimLenox said:

    et said:
    Antacids are a big hit with super delegates right now.

    I nominate the above as the best line of the night.

  88. #410383
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:46 pm, Laree said:

    Rick Warren expecting something different when he went into this forum? This is not the McCain he was expecting?

  89. #410384
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:46 pm, TXGator said:

    Amen, Vicky.
    I’ve known grace for quite some time in my life. Not like us Christians to ever give up hope. I’ve seen too much, but faith is the stuff of things unseen, isn’t it?
    Sometimes I feel so blessed, it is overwhelming. God please continue to bless us.

  90. #410386
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:47 pm, TTFK said:

    To say that JC is in his element would be a gross understatement.

    I missed BO’s BO, but from the comments, I have just one question: Where is Lysol as a sponsor when you need them?!

  91. #410387
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:48 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    Yeah Barry was smoking dope, during history classes, so he thinks its the Georgia near that state called Florida. Duhhhhhhhhhh

  92. #410388
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:48 pm, vickisoup said:

    Tim, thanks for the link. I’ll have to check that out later! :P

  93. #410389
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:48 pm, allrsn said:

    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:41 pm, brooklyn red said:
    Sorry Mr. Soros, but you may have to wait another 4 years for your workers utopia…

    He is too old to risk waiting, he must destroy freedom NOW his ego demands it.

    Things are going to get very very dirty or even worse. Soros is now a desperate man on his last leg. He has just learned how inept his BO is and how strong Mc can be.

  94. #410390
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:49 pm, BayStateRepublican said:

    “most unusual experiment in history” AMEN

    here comes the orphan question again…

  95. #410391
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:49 pm, jimmyk said:

    “I know what it means to be an American”, damn take that Barack!

  96. #410393
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:50 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    INSPIRED

  97. #410394
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:50 pm, vickisoup said:

    “Inspire a generation of Americans to embrace a cause that’s greater than themselves”.
    BRING it, Johnny Mac!

  98. #410397
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:51 pm, Tazed and Confused said:

    Great elevator speech on “what I wanna be da prez”… our best days are ahead of us… BHO sees them behind us…

  99. #410398
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:51 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    He wants to INSPIRE, barry, said he wants to emphatize?? hhhhmmmm

  100. #410396
    On August 16th, 2008 at 9:51 pm, Laree said:

    John McCain living the life, Obama has not experienced even a small amount of but Obama is the one that wants Americans to sacrifice, thinks he knows what is best.

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