I respectfully disagree.

There is an ongoing movement out of the Democratic underground to split the Republican vote by going on to conservative websites and tossing out the word “RINO” referring to those who are supporting John McCain for president, as well as other canards about him not being conservative enough. The objective is to get the “conservative dupes” to “stay on their tractors” this election day by poisoning the well for John McCain. Be on guard and have your pitchforks, torches and nooses at the ready.

“After watching the GOP race the Dems to socialism over the last 8 years your proposed definition just doesn’t match reality.”

Buddy, have you looked at what Obama proposes to do? That’s socialism. Yes, government has grown too big under the republicans, McCain has been an advocate of limited government while other republicans acted like pigs at the trough. That is one of the reasons he has made enemies with other republicans.
McCain is one of the only senators to forgo earmarks which has been one of the major budget busters and he has vowed to veto pork laden budgets if he becomes president.

“I wish it weren’t so a $3.1 Trillion proposed budget for FY 2009 is hard to argue with.”

Congress creates budgets, not the president and congress is controlled by the democrats. Additionally, Bush’s blunders are not McCains.

Only 6 comments away from 800… Unfortunately I have run out of ways to say that electing Obama doesn’t have anything to do with conservative principals.

National GOP leadership have split the party by trying to become the “other party of big govenment.”

I wish it weren’t so a $3.1 Trillion proposed budget for FY 2009 is hard to argue with.

On August 18th, 2008 at 6:37 pm, Bill Grant said:
“RINO”

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1 ri·no· \rii-ˈnoo\
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1: A DNC wedge phrase to split the republican party and elect a socialist.

On August 17th, 2008 at 11:12 pm, nyc123me said:
Watch out Send_Me – according to jsmiddleton4 and Bill Grant, that makes you an Obama supporter.

Here’s my reasoning for not voting for either candidate and voting my conscience.
1. 2000: Honestly, how different were Bush and Gore? How large was the workable pool of voters (# of swing/moderate voters?)
2. 2004: How different were Bush and Kerry? I mean, come on, how many liberal or incompetent policy proposals has Bush supported? Did that pool of workable voters increase or decrease in size?
3. 2008: We see that McCain and Obama are very much alike, focusing not on their bases of support, but rather on the lukewarm crowd, the folks who are swayed by cheesy commercials, the ones who really don’t care about politics but want a good show. The far left is alienated, as well as the far right.
2012 prediction: The candidates will be even more alike than they are now, and we’ll once again ask ourselves, “which of the evils should we choose?” The problem though is that the differences will not be as apparent.
Conclusion: Unless we wish to continue down this road, where neither party cares to remain responsive to its base, we must make them realize that we are still sentient beings who vote with our brains and conscience, not out of convenience.
So, if you really do care about the state of this country, you will vote your conscience when choosing a President, and you will vote the bums of the 14% Congress out of office.
Also, consider this: “Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” ~John Quincy Adams

Main Entry:
1 ri·no· \rii-ˈnoo\
Function:
noun
Date:
1989

1: A DNC wedge phrase to split the republican party and elect a socialist.

I know that Obama was lying his butt off on every point (except for his contempt for the brilliant and honorable Justice Thomas).

The only problem is that I no longer think McCain is being straight with us either. He knows what he has to say to draw conservatives back into the fold. But, 10 years of his RINOism has convinced me that he is not sincere when he talks like this.

I will not be voting for John McCain this year.

“don’t antagonize…”

Sorry, No can do. I antagonize everyone. I am an antagonist.

“If you’re voting for McCain, you’re voting for shamnesty.”

Again, it is provably not the case. I am voting to have a chance to fight amnesty and I intend to get involved in doing so. Presidents don’t write laws, congress does. The course of action you are perusing will guarantee that we will get it with Obama ready to sign whatever Amnesty bill that comes from the democratic controlled congress, probably within the first 100 days.

“so take your own medicine and swallow it”

You just haven’t heard a word that has been said to you by about a half dozen people.

“if you hadn’t noticed, I live in NYC,”

Somehow I don’t think we will doing lunch. If that is the case how could you contemplate allowing someone who seeks to feel the islamists pain after what was done here? How could you contemplate walking away from the war on islamist scum bags that killed 3000 people in lower Manhattan?

“My ‘logic’ then was that better 4 years of hell under the dems with a light at the end of the tunnel and a Republican representative”

That idea was brought to you courtesy of Hill and Knowlton PR firm out of Washington DC back when they were tossing out ideas for the DNC to see how they could get the conservatives to stay home for Hillary Clinton.

You do not gain influence by losing elections. Also, that will certainly get you Amnesty on a scale that you had never dreamed of.

“You sound as if your voting for McCain depends on the manner of how other people express their opinion on the subject.”
Not at all, and I just answered this very question a little way back. #754 I think.

I have already expressed my rational. I initially have said that I could not in good conscience vote for someone who is pro-amnesty, as I am convinced that would spell the doom of this country. After hearing McCain speak so well, I was almost reconsidering that decision (in part possibly because immigration was never mentioned in the forum), however a couple here chose to repeatedly ignore that I was rethinking my stance and continued calling me an Obama supporter, so yes, I got angry. It served to remind me very clearly why I was reluctant to vote for McCain. So yes, they pushed away someone who might have grudgingly voted McCain.

Again, they should focus those efforts on Obama supporters.

Yes what Powerpro wrote is logical, but for me it is not as simple as A or B – if it were, then McCain would definitely have my vote, for what it’s worth. Again, as I have said, I believe amnesty is a deathblow for the USA. How can I vote for that and not feel I’ve betrayed this country?

There was an argument a month or so ago that I was involved in. Back then I was quite heavily anti-McCain (and Obama, needless to say, although it was still neck and neck with Clinton back then). My ‘logic’ then was that better 4 years of hell under the dems with a light at the end of the tunnel and a Republican representative, than 4 years of having to hold my nose with no light at the end of the tunnel at all, as the Republican party swings further and further to the left (the idea being that the Republican party would get the message to put up a conservative representative next time, not a centrist). I was thinking beyond just the next 4 years.

Please, it’s logical. Re-read what powerpro wrote. It makes sense.