Sore loser: Obama and Obamedia accuse McCain of “cheating”
No, really. The Obama camp and its media water-carriers are seriously accusing John McCain of “cheating” in his appearance over the weekend at Rick Warren’s Saddleback church forum because he was in his motorcade when the program started– and then escorted to an empty room without media hook-ups. NBC’s Andrea Mitchell spread the unsubstantiated rumor that somehow McCain heard Obama’s questions while on his drive. The nutroots went, well, nuts. The NYTimes piled on (“Despite Assurances, McCain Wasn’t In a ‘Cone of Silence’“). The McCain camp has protested.
And now we have the spectacle of the Democrat presidential nominee and his press entourage bleating about the “cone of silence” because he didn’t fare as well as his opponent.
Yes, the Obama has just confirmed that it is operating in a cone of abject stupidity. Maybe a little less fun in the sun next time, eh, Barry O?
The event wasn’t even head-to-head. How is the Obama team going to behave should The One wipe out in an official debate this fall? The wah-mbulance will be working overtime.
Oh, and I think we know where the Left is headed again. Remember “Is Bush Wired?”
Predicting a massive run on tin foil from now until November…
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More:
Warren told CNN Sunday evening, “we flat out asked him” if he heard any of the questions. The McCain campaign “confirmed that McCain did not hear or see any of the broadcast” in the motorcade or after he arrived, Ross said.
When asked if McCain overheard anything, Charlie Black, a McCain adviser who was with him at the time, told CNN: “We were in motorcade until 5:30 p.m. ET; then a holding room in another building with no TV.”
Warren said, “I trust the integrity of both” candidates, and said he “knew they would abide by the rules.” He joked McCain may not have been in the cone of silence, but “he was in the cone of a Secret Service motorcade”.
Scott Ott: Har. How McCain breached the cone.
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Update: Here’s the full transcript of the forum.
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This Obamination McSwish debate high lights the flaw of the Lincoln Douglas debates of 1858. The Lincoln Douglas debates were totally politically incorrect due to it’s confrontation format. They actually spoke to each other. Hopefully we have learned our lesson here and in the future no risk of speak between Obamination and McSwish will occur and the debate will be conducted in Hip-Hop sign (another change). McSwish is here disadvantaged because his hands are so small.
McCain cheated? Ok, that’s a great reason to have another round! Bring it on, sissies!!!
I watched the forum at my Brother-In-Law’s house and my 13 year old nephew got it right (so proud of him). He said that Obama is trying to be all things to all people.
(full disclosure here: I am NOT a John McCain fan at all)
The impression I got is that Barry was talking around the questions and playing a mental chess game to organize his thoughts on how to best answer the question.. (pandering)
John McCain was able to answer them right out without too much beating around the bush.. and answered more questions as well.
I did come away with a new respect for the man..
I loved Mitchell’s quote:
For her, most Democrats and all Liberals, the only way McCain could be so well prepared, is not due to experience, intelligence, or a well-organized campaign staff, but because he must have “cheated.”
It makes sense – Liberals exist only by cheating others. They can’t conceive of someone succeeding on merit.
First thought that came to my mind, Michelle.
See the face of the modern donkey party:
“If we lose an election, you must have cheated; If we lose a debate, you must have cheated.”
Of Napoleon Hill’s “Seven Major Negative Emotions,” (Jealousy, Greed, Fear, Anger, Hatred, Superstition and Revenge) the one on display here is Superstition.
Notice how every time things don’t go the way they want, donkeys immediately dredge up strained, borderline supernatural “explanations” invoking some unseen and nefarious external force or influence? “Bush wore a wire!” “McCain escaped the Cone of Silence!” “Black voters were suppressed in Florida!” Whatever…
The trouble with the major negative emotions — the liberal emotions — is that they usually work together in toxic “cocktails” that produce layered expressions of mental illness.
For example:
Blend Supersitition with Jealousy and Greed, and the idea of personal responsibility for one’s state of affairs is supplanted by an externally-focused “Oppressor/Victim” mindset: the reason you don’t get everything you want out of life has nothing to do with your choices; it’s because _____________ has cheated you (fill in the blank with “Big Oil,” “Whitey,” “The Man,” “Neocons,” “George Bush,” “The Jews,” “Capitalists,” “Republicans,” “The Religious Right,” or any other politically correct bogeyman du jour).
Mix Superstition with Hatred and Fear and you get Paranoia and its requisite conspirazoid view of the world: Republicans are capable of anything — anything!!
Adding Anger to any of these brews is like spiking a drink with pure alcohol.
And the ultimate state of mind that results from a class-based worldview of liberal heroes vs. conservative villains is Revenge: confiscatory, redistributionist tax schemes, resurrecting the “fairness” doctrine, silencing FOX News, threatening Michelle with physical harm and death, pursuing fanciful criminal indictments against Bush Administration officials even after they’ve left office, nationalizing the oil companies, stripping the secret ballot to force unions on employers through intimidation, and on and on.
The “Seven Major Liberal Emotions” are why, when I claim that liberalism is a mental disorder, it’s not for dramatic effect.
I loved the DNC screaming about bush being “wired”. Even wayyy back in 2004 we had recievers that could easily fit in an ear so why exactly would bush have a big clunky box straped to of all places, his upper back? DDDDUUUHHH
McCain did better because his answers were sincere, not nuanced and blubbering like Obama’s. He answered directly and with conviction, no waffeling. The reason the dems think he cheated is because that is what they would have done if given a chance. They can’t imagine why someone wouldn’t cheat! The word “honor” is not in the liberal vocabulary.
McCain could squash this and offer the same format, with him going first this time.
I’m tired of Obama being the victim. It’s old. It’s tired. It’s pathetic.
Or.. as LGM will say..
Karl Rove personally handed over the questions to McCain…
then Karl Rove drank the blood of a newborn infant..
They play the same kind of game with class warfare. If some people are rich, it must be because they somehow cheated the poor people out of it.
Betcha you can do a heck of a game of liberal mad libs.. ____________ (victim group) was oppressed by ________________ (type of evil corp.) if it wasn’t for the work of __________________ (name of democrat running for office) working on their behalf..
This is beyond pathetic.
If anyone at Odumbo’s camp had any brains, they could’ve easily figured out what an evangelical church leader would ask ahead of time.
Just think for a moment.
It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out.
Evil vs. good
Abortion
Morality
Supreme Court
But then again, the left has been so secularized, these kinds of topics have become foreign to them.
Tick tock Barack O-Drama. Cry a little bit more. Your pitiful performance is your own fault. A true lightweight finally being exposed as such.
It’s scary that this election is even close.
My hat’s off to Regulus…bravo!
over the weekend i met with a friend who is a labor union leader and he told me his union was not supporting obama with any union funds because the members told the leadership if they spent one dime of union money on the obama campaign, they would be voted out of their offices. barry and san fran nan could cause the reagan revolution to return. todays democrat party as represented by barry and nan is so far removed from the democrat party of the 40s through 60s as to be unrecognizable. the only segment still a viable coalition part of the democrats is the black vote. unions have followed democrats into oblivion except for government workers, the jewish vote is now in doubt, the womens vote has been dumped on, the gay vote, environmental extremist vote, socialist professor vote, and the new found ACORN invisible man and lunaticassylum/prison/ alzhiemer ward vote are the only reliable barry supporters. oh, i almost forgot barry will do well among our muslim terrorist voters, they are after all the religion of peace, and barry is all about peace.
Not at BO’s church (or in the liberal mind), they have a different mission, and it ain’t about absolute truth and morals.
Dimocrap mantra “Cheater,cheater, pumpkin-eater”.
Face it Obama, Cliff Notes may have brought you this far but you won’t pass the final exam!
What media bias?
/sarcasm off
Obama’s base just gobbles this kind of conspiracy nuttiness right up. This is the base of Rovian plots and 9/11 was an inside job looniness.
I can only imagine how Obama acted with playmates growing up- “MINE, MINE, MINE!!!”
What is the average age of Obama campaign staffers? 12 years old, perhaps? These accusations are infantile.
This is pathetic.
This tickled me so much that I went and found the clip, if anyone is interested (or young enough not to appreciate the reference). Thanks CO2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoqUwyHseg4&feature=related
We don’t need to “Swift Boat” (which really means telling the truth) Obama – the Obamessiah got “Saddlebacked!”
From my conservative point of view we have two lousy candidates.
But I think from the voting American public’s point of view, there is no question that anyone with a brain could see that Obama is an empty suit who hems and haws and who can’t give a straight answer – and McCain is like a breath of fresh air in contrast.
Of course all those without a brain will vote DemocRAT no matter what.
The bigger problem IMO is that fact that
the first words out of Warrens mouth was a lie. Then McCain came out and agreed to the lie by saying his head was against the wall. Christians are not supposed to lie. Watching it he asked to go back to the Supreme Court question when he had not even been asked. There were many times in the republican debates when McCain was asked a question and you could here Rudy or Mitt giving him clues as to the answers. McCain cannot even find Iraq on a map seriously. I have seen live townhalls where McCain was asked two questions at once and he couldn’t remember the first question if the second one was to long for him to focus on. I have seen many shots of him asleep in the senate. McCain is not a republican and if elected he will implement NSPD 51 when he starts a nuclear war with Russia. How quickly “MYFRIENDS” forget who John works for. The Military Industrial Complex & LARAZA “NOT US”
CRY BABY OBAMA===WAAAAH— WAAAAAAAAAH, Ma, Johnnie cheated me!
This is supposed to DISTRACT from Obama’s poor performance. Sorry CNN and MSNBC not going to work it was televised on many different networks a lot of people must have been watching. Going on the defensive now and attacking McCain makes Team Obama look weak and like amateurs, McCain cheated? What is this Grade School? Oh that points to Obama’s inexperience again. WHO is running the Obama campaign into the ditch?
Obama performed POORLY it isn’t about McCain performing EXCELLENT.
The old MSM two step:)
Oh Yeah, I love liberals in a frenzy. They look soooo good in pink.
I thought the headline was one of Michell’s jokes, turns out it was real.
I LOVE IT.
Whine Babies Whine
the obamination just didn’t present himself well. The “uh” factor was rather apparent. Don’t you get marked down in speech class every time you use it? I guess too much sun on the beach rather than preparing for a minor debate…the chosen one can do no wrong….NOT
The loonie left at the HuffyPo are going bonkers. Every conspiracy theory possible, such as Bush wanting to secure his third term, sent a CIA black-ops team that climbed through the skylight and stole the question ahead of time, then druged Obama’s cup so that he would be in a daze and confussed.
The way the mainstream media is behaving, this is less about the candidates and more about them.
I have to imagine that they were as blown away as I was over how one preacher from California could put together a political forum that made all of the others look like Jerry Springer.
I think the professionalism and the civility of Rick Warren’s event put the MSM on notice – “Clean up your act.”
Charges of cheating? That’s a laugh coming from networks who were caught stacking their audience questions with union advocates and political shills just a few months ago, don’t ‘cha think?
How about sending some of them in the middle of the Iraqi desert or the Mojave desert (is more safer) and feed them with MRE’s along with 5 gallons of water.
Would they whine then?
obama is a reader of speeches, and when he has to give a spontaneous answer, he ugh,ugh,ugh doesn’t hold a you know coherent ugh,cogent what was the question again, oh yeah thought. but his speech writers and spin misters can make you believe he is ALMOST as smart as hillary or bill, the smartest people on the planet, and obviously smarter than ANY republican.
A shoe phone!What a Maxwell Smart moment.Do they think we are idiots?
BrianNY, you are right – we got a more in-depth look at their character and demeanor, and a better insight into what kind of person they are, rather than sound bites.
Saddleback made all the so-called debates and forums run by the so-called “professional journalists” look really lame. I guess that’s why they are the Lame-Stream Media!
I would love to see someone (Michelle?) put together a comprehensive list of all the loonie lefts’ track records of being wrong. You know, how many times they said something would happen and didn’t, and how many times they said something would not happen and it did. I can’t even keep up with all their lies and deceptions. Maybe some of you know of a website or blog that has all their failures listed?
madchef, are you serious? so, they are admiting he was dazed and confused. priceless. roflmao
Oh, geez. Cheating?
I was as surprised as anyone else on how well McCain actually did, as well as the quality of some of the questions and McCain accompanying answers.
I was really expecting some odd softball questions for both of them and for McCain not to do so well. I was surprised.
If The One and his throng of followers are gnashing their teeth over this, it will be a sight to behold, if he gets bested by McCain in an actual debate.
old texan just reminded me of something, what ever happened to the Archives of old Hilldebeast?
I thought you had to be dazed and confused to be a Democrat.
if Odimbo was on drugs it was self inflicted.
The claim that McCain cheated drives the last nail in Obama’s coffin regarding this particular event hey? What a clear statement that McCain kick his behind.
Also just wondering what answers McCain may have changed even if he knew the questions? These weren’t algebra questions that required math. These were personal questions for which the answers reflected a person’s values/insides. The only one needing time to frame an answer was the one more concerned with the politics of the answer than allowing any real truth to be revealed. That was Obama not McCain.
So you lose the forum and then you cry cheating. Hilary keeps getting happier and happier…..
Wow, that’s some loony moonbat stuff. It’s a shame. They’ll never admit that Obamoron actually is that dazed, confused nimrod and that they’ve hitched their wagons to an idiot. What denial…
People cheat when they don’t know the answers…….
McCain knew the answers.
He didn’t need to ahhhh and ummmmm to stall for time to find an answer to appease the audience.
Obama is going to win….does’t the ACLU & MSM give him a 10 state lead for being black?? (sorry thats my white guilt….)
I know this is off subject but it’s great to hear that union story! Anecdotal info from ‘the world outside’ of MM’s forum has always been of interest to me. If the union membership can persuade the leadership that way, more power to them (and what got them off their buns?). Could it be the potential of losing the secret ballot thing?
Anyway, back to shoe phones and tin foil…
What a bunch of moaners. I believe Rick Warren was on several networks talking about the general areas of questioning. If he would have said current events and asked Odumbo about the attack on Georgia, Odumbo would have said Alabama should show contraint. McCain would launch one across the bow of the Russians and the Dems would cry foul because he heard the question. Barack said there is evil in our country–McCain said the islamo-fascists killed thousands of our citizens on our territory and there are cells here now planning to kill us–this is something Odumbo doesn’t get. The MSM is circling the wagons because they see what an empty suit Odumbo is. 47 seconds to respond that a question on abortion is above your pay grade–how pathetic. McCain opened a can of a55whoop on Obumbo. I’m sure the Dems are eager for the debates to begin–not.
You know – actually the problem is Saddleback church is such a small secretive place that not a single question could have been imagined beforehand. How on earth was Obama to know what kinds of things might have been asked. You know, the pastor of that church never does anything out in the open like write books or speak publicly.
/sarc off
Of course, on the other hand, we might expect Obama to not know what might be important to a church group given Obama’s own statements, he doesn’t pay attention in church.
What? I think I hear Hillary Clinton laughing….
Obamessiah just advanced way up the list of the stupidest person in the Democrat Party.
If I only thought McCain actually believed most of what he said it might make a difference to me. I have been fooled too many times by RINOs. I am just not buying it. Color me 3rd party this year.
The childlike anointed one looked, well, you know, childlike — Obama is a naive waif. He spent all his life practicing how to speak instead of learning what to say.
I found Once Again he is more worried about sounding articulate than being decisive.
It was also, obvious he was saying what he thought the audience wanted to hear. We know he does not believe that marriage is only between a man & woman nor does he believe that abortions should be limited to 3 trimester.
As prez you need to sometimes fly by the seat of your pants and not think about everything that comes out of your mouth…
He DEFINITELY showed he is NO leader!
I heard Andrea Mitchell (the Amanpour of domestic liberalism reporting)say on NBC Today that McCain’s answers were so different! That’s a mouth full. She’s still reeling from the sharp criticism of her Sunday performance where she shilled for the Obama talking point’s memo. That was where David (the moron) Gregory said, “Right!” These people need some good old fashion East TN whipping of their arse.
many of the questions dealt with one’s core belief.. if Obama wasn’t worried about showing his core beliefs, he would have been able to answer the questions as easily as John McCain..
instead BHO hemmed and hawed around the question trying to answer what he thought would be best..
JMc answered easily and quickly.. he wasn’t worried about trying to pander and say what he thought the folks there would want to hear.
If the Obamessiah is trotting out the “McCain’s answers were good because he cheated!”, doesn’t that pretty much shoot holes in the left’s mantra that Obama won this little shindig?
I mean, if Obama felt like he won, he would have belittled McCain’s answers. By complaining that McCain’s answers were so good because he cheated, The One is confirming that McCain had better answers…otherwise, Obama would feel no need to acknowledge McCain’s performance.
Obama lost, and his bellyaching is proof that he knows it.
RE #107 –
And here is the infamous “Cone of Silence” clip from “Get Smart”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLZKEre3yJ0
What next, Andrea Mitchell reporting the Obama camp’s assertion that it was McCain who channeled the phrase “above my pay grade” onto Obama’s lips just as he was in mid-stutter?
Obviously, they couldn’t manage to get Obama out of that diabolical “cone of mendacity”.
conservativesRus said:
I can imagine Obama thinking, “What kind of church is this? Asking about abortion and the existence of evil? When are we gonna get to the real gospel of blame whitey, Hillary ain’t never been called a n*gga, and Bill Clinton was riiiiidin’ durty?!”
If Obama needed to be given Warren’s questions ahead of time, how would he be able to handle that 3 a.m. phone call?
I think Saddleback gave us the answer to that question.
If you look up “media whore” there are actually a whole slew of pictures, prominently featuring Andrea Mitchell. And also Chrissy Matthews. Followed by all the rest of the MSM.
I’m sending Obie’s campaign staff and MSM a care package, it includes:
The cost – $7.00… who’s with me? They wish to act like children, I say we treat ‘em like them.
Let McCain Derangement Syndrome begin.
Well, this news is just horrible; Horrible, I say. The American people can not stand for this! It is time for Barrack Obama to show John McCain just how tough a debater he really is. I suggest a town hall style debate. John McCain won’t be able to pull any fast ones during one of those. In fact, how about 10 town hall debates! That will teach Mr. McCain a thing or two about Mr. Obama!
better send them a used diaper 30, their campaign stinks, they’ll be used to the smell.
Pro-Life Question for John McCain
McCain must have been wired into his granny for answers.
This is the letter sent to NBC.
Well, looks like the one who is protesting, is the one who actually ADMITS to cheating.
That jackass and his lying gaggle of juveniles are beyond despicable . . . and the Democrats want these dirt bags to run the country. The Republic is in deep trouble.
Sorry, Dalai Bama. You don’t get to whine about how Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Il, Ach-Dinner Jacket, or the Chinese government cheated. If you can’t handle McCain handing it to you in a soft and fuzzy forum, you can’t handle running this country.
If the Obamaniacs are screaming now, just wait until the Clintons steal the nomination from them in Denver. We may just witness another Jonestown.
One word to describe Obama, Inc.
Supercilious
The way this CLOWN is handling no-script questions, I see 48 states for OL’ JUAN… Heard MC CAIN camp’s response to ANDREA MITCHELL’s comment… Sorry to see NBC following their colleagues at MSNBC, carrying the water for OBAMA… SURPRISE!!!
Howdy Ms. Malkin,
How can BO operate in a cone of abject stupidity when he is morally bankrupt? Calling him stupid allows him an excuse.
Please use less tolerance and more firebranding on these fools.
Thanks!
Does it seem that liberals never just lose? When was the last time a liberal admitted without any equivocation or excuse-making that they simply lost?
It should not take an elite college education to figure out why the elitist leftist are unable to make appreciable inroads with mainstream Americans.
even the resident trolls in the bucket for Odipstick are quiet. maybe they committed Hari Kari. lmao
Bari Kari?
Anyone know where you can see the transcript of the discussions?
How did McCain make Obama give those crappy answers?
I really think Obama needs to lay in a large supply of cheese for the next few months – he certainly is going to need it to go with his incessant whine.
Perhaps a pacifier should be the new symbol of the Obama campaign. “Change”? How about “Change my Diaper”.
Pelosi, Reid, Obama.
If that trio ever achieves simulaneous power, our enemies can simply go on vacation.
“Don’t worry, Comrade, they are in the middle of destroying themselves.”
The answers were in the gray hairs he loaned Odopey.
http://rickwarrennews.com/transcript/
They must have thought he did a worse job than even I did! I just hope he doesn’t kill his chances before their convention.
His wife “doesn’t test well” either.
Major Mega Dittos to #133 War Eagle82!
I recently participated in a OP Chaos moment in the Hillary chat room. The Hill gang is soooo steamed, and this performance by THE ONE is only going to make them even more frustrated their gal is not the winner. You can just see her up there in her lovely in pink pant suit and giving a much stronger performance and her loyal gang can see it too! We may not hear about the fireworks unless it leaks out via the internet, but there will be warrrhhh at this Convention. I foresee many a Hillary supporter body in the replicated GITMO cages in Denver!
The reason THE ONE, his camp and the MSMLSDs are screaming the victim mantra is because that is all he and they know. It is their foundation. Then when you add to this their opinions that they are the smartest people on the planet, you have a mixture that only produces an ego maniac. The Clintons pulled this off, but THE ONE cannot.
Now we just need to pray McCain does not nuke everything in sight by naming a pro-choice VP! Someone in the McCain camp- take that shotgun out of his hand that is aimed at his foot!
It’s like the bloody lunatics are running the asylum–B. Hussein is screaming that McCain snitched his jello at lunch!
McCain should simply say, fine you whiners, next time I will go first and Obama can have the questions a week ahead of time and prepare as much as he wants, because no matter what, his answers suck. He has no substance. The end.
It’s absolutely true: “Despite assurances, McCain was not in the cone of silence.”
No amount of huff `n puff will change that.
Finally… something the Obamanites can come together on. McCain cheated….
Explain why Obie bombed – what was essentially an interview?
On August 18th, 2008 at 12:59 pm, lgm said:
It’s absolutely true: “Despite assurances, McCain was not in the cone of silence.”
Was McCain wearing his secret de-coder ring LGM?
lgm said:
Translation: Did you see how badly Obama got pwned by McCain?!
I see lgm still has his head firmly planted in that dark place where the sun don’t shine. At least he is consistent in that regards.
One thing I’ll give McCain credit for – he was willing to speak his mind to his captors in Hanoi. I don’t think the word “equivocation” is in his vocabulary.
My guess is Bill is making a lot of calls on behalf of Hillary right about now…
Ok, fine. They think he’s cheating.
Well then I’m sure they’ll want a rematch. Right?
I mean, so people can see the REAL candidates, and all.
Which of the usual suspects were involved? Rove, Cheney, Halliburton, Diebold, Bush, Big Oil, Small Oil, Druids, Saudis…
The democrats, as usual, run an emotional campaign, not a logical one. They try to win on the former only, because they know they will lose on the latter.
You know.
like maybe a debate?
This entire cheating thing is such a joke, they know their boy was whupped like a rented mule and are grasping at straws. pathetic indeed. losers.